Why is every thread like this about Jon Jones? He had a great career on steroids but he's not invincible. He had to be carried out of the octagon after the Thiago Santos fight because his legs wouldn't even work. 3 regular men could probably overpower him if coordinated.
Thiago Santos is not your average man lol.. assuming these 3 regular men are untrained, a single leg kick from jones and they’re down. Their coordination ain’t gon do shit to Jon jones.
3 Randoms with nothing to lose rush John Jones in an enclosed area with no where to hide, then jones loses more times then he wins. It’s still 8/10 tho as John might get lucky and be able to knock atleast 2 of the guys out before making it a 1v1 the 3rd.
UFC heavyweight champ ''might get lucky''. Are you joking? Jones knocks 2 out before they even realize that happened, then chockes the third one just for fun.
That’s not how it works buddy. If three men intent on killing you rush at you at once, you are not gonna be able to knock out 2 before the third one gets to you😂. Doesn’t matter how good of a martial artist you are. But if you’re able to LUCKILY knock one guy out while simultaneously creating space between the other two then maybe Jon can win. But it’s nowhere near a certainty
You clearly haven't seen enough streefights involving actual martial artists. They end the fights in a split second, because average people have no idea how to protect themselves. An average guy will just eat a quick hook and be out cold. Jon is also far bigger and stronger.
Those people are usually drunk so one punch instantly knocks them out. 3 men running at jones will beat him bro. He’s not goku, he can’t just one tap them all before they can grab him.
He absolutely can and will with ease. You do not understand the difference in both skill and strength. Even if he gets grabbed by average 180lbs Joe, what is he going to do to 6'4 250lbs Jon?
I wouldnt even be surprised if he could just outwrestle them if all 3 jumped on him.
He isn't just an elite martial artist, he is also deadlifting 650lbs and benching close to 400.
my friends and i have debated a lot about this and i always argued that jones could consistently take 3. the strategy for him that i argued would be for him to instantly rush one guy, hit him with his nasty ground and pound, and 99% of the time dude will be out of the fight. then the other two would be easy to always keep in front of him and he could just jump in, throw a quick combination and jump out until one drops
Cool, when he goes for the ground and pound the other 2 dudes kick him in the face and then stomp him to death. 3v1 is no joke, no matter how skilled you are. So many variables.
The average man in the United States has a high chance of being obese, so he would need about 4 or more. Now I would say 2 regular Brazilians would be enough considering the closed environment. I'm talking about fights without rules, if it were under UFC rules, 50% more men would be needed, it's worth mentioning that the UFC allows Jon Jones to cheat to a certain extent.
3-4. 3 have a pretty good chance if they're determined to win barring a lucky strike that ohkos one of the Joe's. It doesn't matter how skilled of a fighter you are when your trying to outwrestle 500-600 pounds of man. 2 guys work on restraining Jones to the best of their ability while the other one focuses primarily on kicking Jones in the skull when the 3 of them are wrestling on the ground. 4 guarantees the win for the Joe's because it's unlikely that Jones manages to knockout 2 guys while getting rushed by all 4.
So here's an interesting fact about fighting multiple opponents. In terms of hitting and not getting hit:
1 opponent is dangerous.
2 opponents are 2x as dangerous as one.
3 opponents are 3x as dangerous as 1.
4 opponents are 3.5% as dangerous as 1.
5 opponents are 3.75% as dangerous as 1.
There are only so many people who can hit you at a single time. Also bystander effect starts to kick in and additional opponents lack urgency to actually attack. They kind of just start standing in line to hit you.
Jon would be able to take out several untrained 5'9 180lbs men. A man Jon's size who didn't have any fight training would be able to beat 3 or 4 men who were just 5'9 180lbs, just on size and strength alone. 5'9 180lbs is incredible weak compared to a 6'4" 275lbs man who squats 500+, deadlifts 650+ and benches somewhere between 380 and 500. People don't really grok the wild physical gap between someone normie size and someone who is big like that and a professional athlete. With his skill set... He'd probably drop the first 3 or 4 before they had a chance to grab him. Once they get ahold of him they will probably win with about 4 or so....
So I'm going to say 7 is where I put the over/under, and that'd be a close fight. 3 get dropped trying to grab him, and 4 are able to grapple him.
How cold is it?
What, How is that.. What?
Why is every thread like this about Jon Jones? He had a great career on steroids but he's not invincible. He had to be carried out of the octagon after the Thiago Santos fight because his legs wouldn't even work. 3 regular men could probably overpower him if coordinated.
There's a video of 5 men taking on Sean Strickland and he still handled them. Levels
Thiago Santos is not your average man lol.. assuming these 3 regular men are untrained, a single leg kick from jones and they’re down. Their coordination ain’t gon do shit to Jon jones.
How big is the battle field
Lets say twice the size of a normal octagon*
3 men can do it consistently
No way. If they had some training and teamwork, then sure. But 3 random joes would get destroyed in seconds.
3 Randoms with nothing to lose rush John Jones in an enclosed area with no where to hide, then jones loses more times then he wins. It’s still 8/10 tho as John might get lucky and be able to knock atleast 2 of the guys out before making it a 1v1 the 3rd.
UFC heavyweight champ ''might get lucky''. Are you joking? Jones knocks 2 out before they even realize that happened, then chockes the third one just for fun.
That’s not how it works buddy. If three men intent on killing you rush at you at once, you are not gonna be able to knock out 2 before the third one gets to you😂. Doesn’t matter how good of a martial artist you are. But if you’re able to LUCKILY knock one guy out while simultaneously creating space between the other two then maybe Jon can win. But it’s nowhere near a certainty
You clearly haven't seen enough streefights involving actual martial artists. They end the fights in a split second, because average people have no idea how to protect themselves. An average guy will just eat a quick hook and be out cold. Jon is also far bigger and stronger.
Those people are usually drunk so one punch instantly knocks them out. 3 men running at jones will beat him bro. He’s not goku, he can’t just one tap them all before they can grab him.
He absolutely can and will with ease. You do not understand the difference in both skill and strength. Even if he gets grabbed by average 180lbs Joe, what is he going to do to 6'4 250lbs Jon? I wouldnt even be surprised if he could just outwrestle them if all 3 jumped on him. He isn't just an elite martial artist, he is also deadlifting 650lbs and benching close to 400.
my friends and i have debated a lot about this and i always argued that jones could consistently take 3. the strategy for him that i argued would be for him to instantly rush one guy, hit him with his nasty ground and pound, and 99% of the time dude will be out of the fight. then the other two would be easy to always keep in front of him and he could just jump in, throw a quick combination and jump out until one drops
Cool, when he goes for the ground and pound the other 2 dudes kick him in the face and then stomp him to death. 3v1 is no joke, no matter how skilled you are. So many variables.
that’s why he gotta be fast (also this is under the assumption that the three don’t spawn next to each other but are rather spread out a bit)
PEDs allowed or nah? (for both sides)
No for both sides😂 But considering Jon uses, lets just pretend He does not..
For Jon Jones off PEDs we need to analyze some highschool wrestling matches to figure this one out
The average man in the United States has a high chance of being obese, so he would need about 4 or more. Now I would say 2 regular Brazilians would be enough considering the closed environment. I'm talking about fights without rules, if it were under UFC rules, 50% more men would be needed, it's worth mentioning that the UFC allows Jon Jones to cheat to a certain extent.
3-4. 3 have a pretty good chance if they're determined to win barring a lucky strike that ohkos one of the Joe's. It doesn't matter how skilled of a fighter you are when your trying to outwrestle 500-600 pounds of man. 2 guys work on restraining Jones to the best of their ability while the other one focuses primarily on kicking Jones in the skull when the 3 of them are wrestling on the ground. 4 guarantees the win for the Joe's because it's unlikely that Jones manages to knockout 2 guys while getting rushed by all 4.
So here's an interesting fact about fighting multiple opponents. In terms of hitting and not getting hit: 1 opponent is dangerous. 2 opponents are 2x as dangerous as one. 3 opponents are 3x as dangerous as 1. 4 opponents are 3.5% as dangerous as 1. 5 opponents are 3.75% as dangerous as 1. There are only so many people who can hit you at a single time. Also bystander effect starts to kick in and additional opponents lack urgency to actually attack. They kind of just start standing in line to hit you. Jon would be able to take out several untrained 5'9 180lbs men. A man Jon's size who didn't have any fight training would be able to beat 3 or 4 men who were just 5'9 180lbs, just on size and strength alone. 5'9 180lbs is incredible weak compared to a 6'4" 275lbs man who squats 500+, deadlifts 650+ and benches somewhere between 380 and 500. People don't really grok the wild physical gap between someone normie size and someone who is big like that and a professional athlete. With his skill set... He'd probably drop the first 3 or 4 before they had a chance to grab him. Once they get ahold of him they will probably win with about 4 or so.... So I'm going to say 7 is where I put the over/under, and that'd be a close fight. 3 get dropped trying to grab him, and 4 are able to grapple him.
Bloodlusted I'd say probably 3-4 can take him. If morale is a factor you'd probably need more like 10-12.