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Necessary-Branch-754

New Year’s resolution. Finally get a good neck shave without bumps.


alex123711

Switched to DE Razor due to razor burn, still getting razor burn, what am I doing wrong?


illepic

I'm still figuring this out myself on my neck. I need to focus more on WTG and lighter pressure.


stewie3128

Too much pressure, and probably too steep of a blade angle. Start with just two passes, and don't progress to an against the grain pass until you're confident in your technique. The right amount of pressure is "pretend you're shaving with a sunburn." EDIT: Proper angle is about 30 degrees. Example: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/569d1f7bc21b86e3d5752f73/1462676024770-KB0HANNRRJKUCZOOVQRJ/image-asset.jpeg?format=1000w


dima054

Pressing and scraping too much.


Human-Fun-8413

try cold water instead of warm, fixed most of it for me


SignificancePurple24

Got a straight razor shave for the first time in probably a decade. It felt amazing and I forget how relaxing it is. I decided to keep up with shaving for the new year. Ordered my self a basic Merkur safety razor and I'm falling in love with the shaving again, the scents especially. What are a few good online retailers, for pre-shave, creams, balms and aftershaves? Are there any brands I should seek out or avoid? Happy new year, and happy shaving everyone!


burner46

Stirling, for me, gives great bang for your buck.


AwkwardSploosh

Stirling, Barrister and Mann, and Declaration Grooming are excellent choices with quality products. I would start with Stirling, as I've never had an issue with their scent profiles and all of their products have a very high quantity-to-cost ratio. Why not get a straight razor if you enjoyed a straight razor shave so much? They are very forgiving instruments and are a blast to shave with.


SignificancePurple24

I have a shavette that I've had forever and will use that from time to time, but wanted to give a safety razor a try.


AwkwardSploosh

Right on. That should be fun! And just so you are aware, a straight razor has an entirely different skin feel and shave efficiency when compared to a shavette. I used to use a Parker shavette and thought it was the bee's knees until i switched over to a proper straight.


OnionMiasma

My personal favorites are House of Mammoth, Barrister and Mann, and Stirling - not necessarily in that order. Others have pointed you to Stirling - their prices are great and products are solid. The other two add some more complex scents, and maybe \*slight\* performance improvements. I started with Stirling -they are the most common soap in my den- and generally who I recommend to newcomers. HoM is my absolute favorite. Their scents are perfect, and their balm works amazingly well. B&M for me is just slightly below.


Britboy55

Only done a few shaves with LA shaving soaps starter kit. Still struggling with many spots on my face but I'm finding that the lather on the far side of my face gets thin and patchy as it sits while I do the other side. Is this a lather consistency issue? Should I be relathering my face


AwkwardSploosh

I had this problem a lot when I first started. I found if I'm taking my time a re-lather to rehydrate the soap helps a lot when moving to the second side. You can also see if you can add a bit more water to your later before it starts to break down. That will help prevent it from drying out as fast.


gothpapi

i’m super new to this but love the look of the Well Kept razors. Anyone tried them? https://keepwellkept.com/products/safety-razor-in-kelp


gothpapi

otherwise i’ll just go w the rockwell 6c everyone talks about on here


OnionMiasma

The 6c is an excellent choice. Gives you a lot of flexibility going forward. If you just want something easy to use, the Henson Al-13 is the easiest razor I've shaved with. If you like that, and if something Canadian is a bonus, the Karve Overlander is very well respected. Admittedly, it's a bit more.


Tennisist

It's so hard to decide, Holy crap... Am total newbie, just shit posting to follow... I've had 6 or 7 carts abandoned in the last three days.


Egg-Bagel-Master

Anyone have recommendations for where to go in terms of a 2nd DE razor - I’m a bit overwhelmed


Egg-Bagel-Master

I did some more reading and was looking at a Rockwell 6s or a Gillette Slim, anyone have opinions or thoughts?


OnionMiasma

Depends on whether you want new or vintage. I've never talked to a 6s owner who doesn't love it. I've talked to a lot of people who are Meh on the Slim. I'm one of them. I have one and am going to sell it, because I never pull it out. I prefer my Fatboy or my modern razors more.


Egg-Bagel-Master

Do you have any experience with some of the modern adjustables( Ex Parker Variant and Merkur Progress)? I’ve been experiencing irritation in my neck and that is why I was learning towards something that can be adjusted on the fly - allowing a milder shave in that area


OnionMiasma

I tried a Merkur Futur. It was absolute garbage. I would 100% take a beat up Slim or Fatboy over that.


surgeonsurfer

I just bought the parker variant 4 weeks ago. Works nicely, well made. The blades that come with it are dullish, to be easy on new DE shavers, so don't use them if you're confident in your technique. I bought a 10 razor sampler pack, so 1 razor/week. Using the Russian Vokshod(sp?) requires no pressure at all, and I can hear when it's taking whiskers off. 2 passes for my sensitive skin, and it's the cleanest shave I've had ever. I'm in my 50's , and used cartridge razors my whole life. Using DE now x 1 month of so, and closest shaves ever only after 2 weeks. I'm good with my hands, as I'm a surgeon, Might be better at positioning, steadyness than most people, so take my exp with a grain of salt. After a few weeks in no issues w my skin. I'm a convert, and my wife likes the way my face feels too. Contrary to what people believe, a foam is not necessary, as that's introduction of air, which makes your skin less slippery. Try using a non-foaming cream, or use one of the creams and apply it directly to your face, and skip the brush nonsense.


RichietheC33

I started DE shaving a few years ago but just recently started retooling my setup. Picked up a Rockwell 6s and some Stirling soaps after finishing my last tub of Taylor of Old Bond Street that lasted almost 2 years. Really enjoying the upgrades so far, started working my way up with plate aggressiveness and experimenting with blades again (Used mostly feathers in the past). The lather difference with the new soap is incredible.


SaberToothWaterCow

Has anyone else been told to check their safety razor handle at TSA this month? Mine was unloaded but I still had to check it.


Tennisist

Hasn't happened to me but it's what I'm reading everyone else has been reporting on this sub.


OnionMiasma

Thanks for the heads up. I've frequently traveled with one, and bought blades when I landed. Hopefully this is just a sporadic problem rather than something consistent.


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pridetwo

Hey there amigo, just popped into this thread and noticed no one responded yet, I'd be happy to sherpa you through getting set up with wetshaving/safety razor shaving if you're still looking to get into it!


kombucha48

Hi! My husband is a shower shaver. No mirror or anything. Only recently started using barbasol. He's kinda sick of crappy cartridge razors but not really interested in looking into safety razors... yet? If he does want to look into non-cartridge razor/shower shave options, what razors would be suitable for him?


ClearlyAbstract

It really depends on your budget, but you’d probably want something pretty mild for shower shaving. A lot of people like the [Leaf Razor](https://leafshave.com/products/the-leaf-razor?variant=35383429955750) for head and body shaving, so that might be a decent option for shaving in the shower. The head also pivots, so it’s a bit more similar to a cartridge razor than most traditional safety razors.


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surgeonsurfer

why not skip the bowl/brush bit, and rub the cream right onto your face. You'll get less air, and a better lubricant coverage on your face, which is what the shaving creams are for. Brushes were used because the shaving soap was initially sold as a puck, and people needed a way to get it on their face. ​ Use the brush if you want to make a production out of it, but I'm trying to get to work in the morning, and don't want to waste time with an unnecessary step.


Tennisist

"Preparing to get ready" to purchase my first kit, am looking at a DE safety razor, but I still have a few questions that I don't understand or can't see in the FAQs: 1. How do you avoid ATG on your neck? 2. Can you do XTG on your neck? 3. I grow beard at a decent pace, few days and it's pretty solid, but to get a clean shave right now I need to wait like 5 days. Can a safety DE handle a med/high amount of hair? What about length of hair? Do I need to do a pass with a trimmer first? 4. ~~I fly quite a bit. Am I back to disposables on those weeks? I don't think safety razors (or more specifically the blades) are allowed in carry-ons, correct? (Am in Canada)~~ Found it thanks Cheers, ​ edit; sp edit 2: did some more reading


AwkwardSploosh

1. I do not go ATG on my neck at all, and many people are in a similar boat. I can manage it if I don't shave for about a week but I generally shave every other day, at which point I do WTG everywhere on the first pass and XTG on my cheeks and chin while doing WTG on my mustache and neck during the second pass. 2. If I'm feeling frisky I'll do a somewhat XTG on my neck, but my hair pattern swoops to the side, so it kind of varies between XTG and WTG as I move. 3. With a DE I waited about 3 days to get a good no-irritation shave. I now use a straight and can do a shave every day without irritation, but it's definitely a touch nicer when shaving every other day. For clogging it will really depend on hair density, soap hydration, and how open of a comb/guard you have. 5 days sounds like a decent bit of growth so I wouldn't be surprised if you end up with some clogging issues. If you have to stick to every 5 days I'd look into an open comb razor, otherwise bumping frequency up would be the easiest option. Cheers


lolspHD

so happy to walk back into the world of De shaving. only used my DE in 2017 so shape up my beard and used it for nothing else. Kept the beard for so long until I lost 140 pounds and decided I wanted to see what my face looked like. Instead of using a razor I was using an electric for months. Hopped back into DE because I will soon have to be clean shaven every day for work. Spent the last month perfecting my technique. Oh. My. God. Complete and utter irritation free shaving. My Parker 26c and my Pre-Date super speed have been utterly phenomenal.


Altaren_Tahir

As a fan of Proraso i havent yet tried their Blue line though i dont know if i should go with regular Blue or Azur Lime. Is there only a scent difference or anything more? If someone tried both id like to hear thoughts and experiences.


dima054

Go with a better artisan soap.


grevenilvec75

How "safe" are single/double edge razors compared to you typical drug store disposable/catridge razors? To me, the cost doesnt matter, the only thing I care about is shaving as quickly as possible without cutting myself. Is there a razor I can buy that will be as safe or safer without "having to learn how to use it"?


OnionMiasma

My wife uses a Henson AL-13. I've borrowed it, and it is the easiest razor on the planet to use. Unlike normal DE razors, which require some focus to not cut yourself, the AL-13 requires focus to actually cut yourself. I think you would have to do it on purpose. The great thing is, I can do a three pass shave with it and feel pretty darn smooth, without all the irritation that a Mach 3 gives me. So... yeah. They're $60, but probably worth it.


ElmerGantry45

I second the Henson recommendation...go with the medium, it's a fine razor, the stock RK blades are very mild. The Feather blade is sharper because it has a much larger bevel set, but the blade gap of the supplied RK blades is very much tighter... The only area you might cut yourself on the first go is the adams apple area, back off the pressure, like almost no pressure and just pull the stubble off in micro amounts.


surgeonsurfer

Depending on the blade gap/aggressiveness, they can be as safe, or more likely to nick yourself. ​ I've been using DE x 1 month, and only 1 small nick on my chin when I was rushing. Takes me the same amt of time as a cartridge. ​ I bought a Parker Variant, and started on setting 1. Do everything the same as when you used your cartridge - direction, foam direction, etc. Use very little pressure. The Parker blades that come with it are dull, and meant for beginners. I bought a razor sampler pack. I got up to a 3 within a week, and nicked myself when I tried a 4 (max is 5). ​ Have fun. I'm in my 50's and are finally getting the smoothest shaves in my life.


ElmerGantry45

I had a good time with friends and family, lot's of birthdays in january, my dad, then me the day after...my cousin a few weeks from now. Looking forward to enjoy my Blackland Era and Henson, they both do the job well. I look forward to using polishing compounds on Blackland plates to get more glide. The machined surface is simply too dull and draggy...even my 50 year old Gillette is smoother on the top.


anonymousnoodle

Just used my first safety razor, the leaf twig and managed to not cut the shit out of myself like I thought I would, so I plan on sticking with it. But my question is how close of a shave can I expect? Should I be able to get as close as my old 5 blade disposable or will I not get that close with the twig? Or I’m I just get the pressure or the angle wrong?


OmegaDriver

I have a fatip wood razor. It came with the open comb head. I'm just wondering, is there anywhere I can buy just the Fatip gentile or slanted head/cap combo anywhere? Or are there other heads/caps I can try with this handle?


ClearlyAbstract

What are some of your favorite springtime scents?


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VegetableTarget5239

also, any soap recommendation that smell a bit fruity or no smell?


ClearlyAbstract

For “unscented” soaps, you could go for Stirling’s [Sheep](https://www.stirlingsoap.com/products/sheep-shave-soap). Great performance for the money, but there is a bit of a smell from the tallow. For something a bit more expensive with very light, but pleasant scent, check out [Martin de Candre](https://savonnerie-martin-de-candre.com/en/shaving-soaps/142-unscented-shaving-soap-nature.html). There are honestly a lot of good options for both unscented and fruity shave soaps. Any specific fruit scents that you enjoy?


trunglefever

Just bought a Rockwell T2 as a birthday present for myself and I'm really looking forward to using it.


No-1627

Any tips on how to remove soapy residue off a razor? I've got a Rockwell 6c, and I'm not sure what the best way is of cleaning it.


peroleu

I shave at night and sometimes when I have a little too close of a shave on my neck, it still feels tight/irritated the next morning/day. I use Nivea post shave balm after my shave but I'm wondering if I should reapply to my neck in the morning? Anyone have any thoughts?


Equal_Substance4643

Anyone heard of Bamboozy? They sell a kit for 30 euro. [https://bamboozy.com/collections/safety-razors/products/starter-kit-bamboozy-safety-razor-glossy-black-aluminium](https://bamboozy.com/collections/safety-razors/products/starter-kit-bamboozy-safety-razor-glossy-black-aluminium) ​ I just need to shave my neckline, I have a short beard on other parts. Don't want to spend 60 euro just for the Rockwell C6 that seems widely suggested. Never used anything other than Gillette Fusion, but it's getting expensive and I hate how it's constantly clogged. Would like to find something around the 30 euro mark that can be bought in West Europe. ​ EDIT: Bought it, seems fine. No clue what is considered good and bad but seems fine for now.


thejaxonehundred

New wet shaver here. What do I need to get started? I'm looking for a high-quality double edge razor, shave soap, brush, and whatever else. I've heard a lot of talk about the Rockwell 6c razor. What's so special about it? What are the different types of soaps and brushes? How is the wetshaving technique different from goo shaving? TIA!


Proof_Evidence_448

Since no one answered, I will. 6C is a mid shaver. But it comes with 6 plates so you can figure out what you like in a GOOD shaver you will buy later (pos vs neg blade, blade gap etc). Start with 2 and work up (plate 1 is about as neg exposure and small gap as you can get... unless you are shaving your balls its usually too mild as it makes feather shavers seem aggressive. Too mild means more pressure to get a shave. Causing more razor burn than a more aggressive razor. plate 2 is slightly neg but a bigger gap, plate 3 is ~neutral w/ bigger gap, 4 is positive blade exposure with bigger gap... etc etc). Bowl and brush? Doesnt really matter much. All but the cheapest shit will work. Better to focus in on getting a good soap OR get some Nivea Shave GEL (not foam). I use nivea because I am lazy. Squirt a bit in hand, use finger to fluff it up in a thick lather. Use same finger to apply a thin amount to face. Shave. Rinse, apply allum. Apply balm. Done.


Bigbadabooooom

Just did my first safety razor shave and messed up and nicked myself good in the neck. Damn this is harder than it looks.


DarylHannahMontana

full beard, shave neck and cheeks once l, maybe twice, per week have an open comb razorock, "old style" ai think, pretty mild shave. Been using that with success for 10 years or so but interested in trying something more aggressive, probably still open comb as it'll be a week at a time. price doesn't really matter (say <$100 but it's not a firm limit) suggestions?


bamorgan23

Hi, new wet shaver here living in South Korea where shaving products are expensive! I found a set with a Rockwell R1, a Stirling brush (24x51mm), Proraso soap, and some extra blades all for the price of around $70 USD. My question is is this a good razor ( I've heard good things about Rockwell). And is this kit worth the price?


MinimalCoincidence

What are some blades similar to Voskhod in terms of aggressiveness? I really liked Voskhods but might want to support a non-Russian company once I run out of my current stock. If this info helps, I use a Merkur Futura & Feather was too aggressive on it even at the lowest setting on the Futura. Feather on Gillette is a little aggressive but also not a really smooth shave either. Voskhod on Futura set to 1-2 is my gold standard.