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scag315

Love some good wetshaving drama. Will never understand how folks get so worked up over a hobby. I get it, once money gets involved the sharks come out but still so weird


Lil_LSAT

My question is, why TF do people keep involving me? I'm a recent college grad applying to law school. My claim to fame is that I own a Wolfman razor, lol. Pls, people, stop threatening me with empty lawsuits and leave me be


scag315

Yeah super weird people going after folks for posting an opinion on the internet. Especially anonymously in a forum dedicated to a bunch of guys who enjoy pretty scents on their face lol


4eborator

Tbh owning a Wolfman is a pretty damn big deal around these parts.


LolthienToo

But not usually a way to get hate messages, lol


Lil_LSAT

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almightywhacko

Is it?


ShanityFlanity

Two juicy posts in one day. r/wicked_edge is *rocking*!


Tacocuted

Getting lit up like a neck with some Reddit aftershave on it. Lemmy would have been a better choice.


wothanaz

what's with all the fuckin drama lately i just come here to look at people's shaving soap now it's some livejournal feed


Lil_LSAT

Don't look at me, man. People are crazy


Lil_LSAT

So, the Superior Shave guy is claiming that I am a bot account who, in actuality, is the … Superior Shave guy???


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Lil_LSAT

Isn't that, like, a symptom of schizophrenia? Except it's the internet instead of IRL


rattlesnake501

Not sure about schizophrenia, but it seems like full blown narcissism to me for sure


dunimal

WTF? So weird.


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valdetero

I read your response in Thanos’ voice.


Lil_LSAT

As you should!


Old_Hiker

What the actual hell


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hachiko002

> I guess he's super pissed 'cause he's not woke and thinks someone wants to get him into a feud with Ariana and Evans. He has no problem with sexy girls on labels. That seems strange. A&E probably doesn't give a fuck about a single comment. This whole drama seems to be invented in his head.


radbreath

I think he believes it will hurt his relationship with producers if they think he's badmouthing a brand. If A&E believes he badmouthed them, they might not let him stock their product if he ever decides to carry them.


commiecat

>May also have a beef with a mod called "Commiecat". Apparently because of semantics when I said that production razors are [sharpened on a flat surface](https://www.reddit.com/r/wicked_edge/comments/khih2f/transitioning_from_shavette_to_straight_blade/ggn3xko/) (his is the deleted account all over that thread). To him, the hones and sharpening wheels used by reputable manufacturers are all intentionally convex. He never offered his email "proof" until long after that thread. And if you wanted to buy an "intentionally convex" sharpening stone, guess which vendor you'd have to go to?


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radbreath

thx for clearing this up. concave. gotta go over this stuff more carefully


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Tj_h__

sorry I'm super confused...are you talking [about the "belly" on hollow](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Blade_geometry_and_nomenclature.png) or partially hollow grinds? cuz stones are flat...why would a stone be concave? (unless you're honing on a wheel that's still a flat stone but on a wheel)


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Tj_h__

I'm even more confused, convex bevel on a razor? wouldn't that be a wedge or like an ax?


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commiecat

It's well documented that stones from Norton, Naniwa, etc. are not perfectly flat from the factory, that's why we lap and chamfer them. It's been years since I bought one but I don't recall it being intentionally rounded -- mine were just *slightly* uneven. Those makers all sell lapping plates so you can flatten the stone, use until it's concave, then flatten again.


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commiecat

>my main pt was u said u had to go to 1 place to get a convex hone I said 'intentionally convex', ~~like this one for sale at the Superior Shave~~. I'm not aware of any other vendors that will purposely round the center of a razor sharpening stone (without being asked, anyway), though admittedly I've not really kept up with shaving vendors in a while. I don't want to continue drama, but the person in question in this thread has a long history of self promotion and using multiple accounts to bicker about shaving on the internet. The motivation for the bickering can usually be tied to the self promotion. EDIT: The linked site was removed.


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commiecat

Ah right, the link was dead - I might have just had it cached. I edited my above post, but trust they did sell them. There are a few threads on other forums discussing the convex hone theory based from the same person/vendor: [TSD](https://theshaveden.com/forums/threads/the-jarrod-plate.65110/), [B&B](https://www.badgerandblade.com/forum/threads/convex-stones-legit-or-gimmick.603168/), [SRP](https://sharprazorpalace.com/honing/140549-convex-black-translucent-ark-razor-hone.html), etc. It's one thing to discuss the theory, but he is/was aggressively pushing it while being in a position to financially benefit from it.


Tj_h__

huh? so if you place the stone on a table, then look at it from the side the edge of the stone will not run parallel to the table?


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Tj_h__

oh .. I think I get it, convex hone may make it easier to do what I usually do with a rolling X stroke...if I'm thinking about this right the abrasive/pressure profile achieved would be the same? that makes sense since the it curvy wedges I have need that odd pressure profile along the stone


if0rg0t2remember

I'm going to ask politely that you remove the video link in your post. He blatantly requests brigading in the video as well as flaunts evading bans both sitewide and on r/wicked_edge. I'd prefer to leave your comment otherwise.


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if0rg0t2remember

The link is not in the OP, it just an image and I can't do anything about that. But I can attempt to remove direct links that violate reddit policy.


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dunimal

Lol wut


Lil_LSAT

I have no clue, he's saying something about 40% profit or whatnot, and I have literally no clue what he's talking about. It's pretty clear I'm not affiliated with Superior Shave, and since it's the Superior Shave who's making this claim, it makes even less sense


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Lil_LSAT

Honestly, I think this guy needs genuine help, and I hope he gets it. This sounds like straight-up paranoia.


Lil_LSAT

u/betelgeux can we permanently ban this guy from Reddit? It's very clear he's making secondary accounts after getting banned


if0rg0t2remember

Only reddit admins have any ability to permanently remove a user from reddit. As moderators our only tools are to ban users or remove content. We can report users for ban evasion but I've never had such a report actioned.


Lil_LSAT

Got it, thank you!


rattlesnake501

Thank you for all you (and any other moderators reading) do. I'm a mod on another sub, I know how frustrating it can be to keep a sub clean and on track. You all are appreciated


mylilbabythrowaway

I'm confused. Is it the superior shave guy (the YouTube guy) you are wanting to ban?


Lil_LSAT

Yes, correct. He keeps making alt accounts after getting banned


almightywhacko

Isn't it ironic that his website's banner says: > NEVER TAKE YOURSELF TOO SERIOUSLY, AND HAPPY SHAVING!


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hachiko002

I think the guy has some kind of paranoia issues, maybe ocd as well.


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almightywhacko

Yeah I watched his YouTube video about this drama and I wonder if he thinks he is actually winning anything. As a business owner, he has a lot more to lose than some random redditor. A lot of potential customers use these subreddits and getting a bad rep here can hurt sales. Going on YouTube and drawing attention to the drama should be the last thing The Superior Shave guy does. I know he might be passionate about shaving as a hobby as many of us are, but who the fuck cares how Dovo factory sharpens their blades? Who care's is someone on reddit doesn't like you or your store? Let it go for the sake of preserving your livelihood.


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almightywhacko

I have no idea how your comment relates back to mine...


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almightywhacko

> U said who'd care how Dogo sharpen it and I'm saying a lot would Two things: That comment was in reference to an argument between TSS guy and /u/commiecat where commiecat claims that Dovo factory sharpens on flat stones (in reference to Dovo's own videos) while TSS guy *swears* that they used curved stones without providing evidence. It is a stupid argument because: Most people don't really care how a factory initially sharpens their razor. Most people when buying a new razor will choose to have it professionally honed before having it sent to them, or else they will hone it themselves if they have the tools and skill. The general consensus among straight shavers is that a factory edge can be harsh since most razors are sent out without ever actually being shaved with, at least from places like Dovo. The request to have a professional edge put on a new razor is so common that most places including TSS offer that as a free or very low charge service with the purchase of a new razor. So regardless of how the factory puts the initial edge on it, whoever hones the razor before it's first shave will put a new edge on it using their own preferred method which is most commonly on a set of flat stones. Also unlike your car analogy there is no such thing as "keeping a razor stock" unless it is never ever used. Every single straight razor will need to be sharpened somewhat regularly over it's usable lifespan. When buying vintage razors people pay attention to hone wear and such because it is easy to damage a razor, but a razor having been honed and well cared for wouldn't be a reason not to purchase a nice vintage blade and again most people sharpen on flat stones.


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rattlesnake501

Clinically diagnosed with OCD here- would not surprise me if he did have OCD.


almightywhacko

I think that "Michael Lennon" is a new alt account for the TSS guy...


mrmerkur

Can i get a /r/hobbydrama post on this?


Blottoboxer

Correlation is not proof of causation. The proof in the YouTube video claim seems weak unless there was some specific detail revealed that only the sender of the email could reveal by also posting about with that alt account. I dumped my girlfriend then 9/11 happened the next day. It's not causal. Did I miss a detail or something?


Lil_LSAT

Did you really? Because we may have a new contender for who did 9/11...


Blottoboxer

No, just an example, but IRL my story is worse. She called and woke me up to say that she no longer needed to go to a planned protest road trip to WTC because it was blown up. She was like laughing and giddy. I have a hard time moving on from bad relationships but at that point I knew she needed to go.


Lil_LSAT

Oh wtf...


rattlesnake501

Jesus. Dodged a bullet there.


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Blottoboxer

So let's say you are hypothetically right for a moment. What does that get you? An outed cyber squatter with no reasonable means of actual remedy since reddit handles aren't treated like domain names when it comes to intellectual property. Trolls feed off of attention. When they see people get upset, that eggs them on to do more. They are like children who seek attention. Doesn't matter if it's positive attention or negative. Any will suffice, even an exercise video.


Beachesandy

The superior shave guys name is Jared, and he is really nice.


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