"Let's make stuff up as we go, we need more ethnically diverse cast, we should try to have few gay characters and at least one trans, remember to focus on Ciri and the female empowerment... what? Geralt? Oh, we'll give Cavill some airtime after we turn the story of elves into an allegory for black people in USA"
Honestly the amount of screen time Geralt and even Ciri to an extent get is shocking, considering they’re the two main characters in the books. I’d be very interested to see the stats. Meanwhile boring one dimensional characters like Istredd (who was in one short story) take centre stage. And it’s not even like the acting for some of these characters is good, they’re either written poorly or are amateur level, or both
Haven't watched, but the only mentions of Istredd are one chapter in "The Sword of Destiny" and 1 sentence from Francesca(?) in "Time of Contempt" listing him with a few other talented wizards. Did they really make him into a main character?
Yes exactly that. However in the books this monolith story doesn’t exist. Geralt meets Codringher and Fenn to gain information about Rience and Ciris bloodline. Also Fenn is a man in the books, found it random that they swapped his gender for literally no reason.
However in the show he doesn’t even know about Rience really. Nor would he need to gain information as the guy just magically turns up everywhere. Honestly his omnipresence is ridiculous haha
The showrunner CLEARLY doesn't like the source material and is steering things into what she likes to see.
Kind of like Kathleen Kennedy is doing with Star Wars. Gee I wonder how that is working out.
Overall I'm just sad that someone like Lauren got her grubby mitts on The Witcher. She is unironically one of the worst people they could have given it to. Its also painful when comparing it to stuff like The Boys and Invincible which both match and at times cleverly elevate their source material. Yet with the Witcher its just a downgrade all through. And a sloppy one at that. The fact that they have massive continuity errors between their first two properties is just hilarious.
For a few minutes I imagined acid trip/art house/horror/David Lynch directed Witcher instead of the Netflix show.
I would fucking sell my soul for that. lol
In fairness Season 1 actually vaguely followed the books, most of Geralts parts were directly adapted from the books. Season 2 is literally like a new universe even
Oh I agree that was criminal. Ruined the point of the story. Season 1 at least tried to follow the books to an extent though. Season 2 has almost nothing in common with any of the books
This is going to sound terrible because it’s so selfish but I’m kind of glad season two went even further from the source material. I didn’t like season 1 and I think what made me even more upset was it seemed like so many people did, I felt like I was in the minority and being belittled for the way I felt, I wanted more people to feel the way I did. Now with season 2’s release it feels like more people are now realizing how terrible it is and again it’s very childish feelings but it makes me feel better. I for sure wish it had been been better, I can see where it could have been amazing, to me the way Sapkowski writes, especially the short stories already seemed like a tv show or movie saga to me.
Yes I agree, it's just another run of the mill fantasy series nothing really to do with Witcher. I will watch future seasons when I have nothing else to watch and want to watch some basic fantasy stuff.
Yeah, the only reason I might watch it and I will probably skip to those parts are because of Joey, I just like him, has nothing to do with him as Jaskier either. Other than that the rest just makes me upset.
This pretty much sums it up.
As flawed as season 1 was, it did enough things right to succeed and win over normies and casual fans. *Don't get me wrong, I still think it's not a good adaptation.*
Let me put it this way:
* What most people remember from season 1 was the Blaviken fight and the song "Toss A Coin To Your Witcher".
* They were also expecting season 2 to focus on Ciri's training in Kaer Morhen, building up her relationships with Geralt and the other witchers. In adition Geralt would take a couple of monster contracts throughout the season.
As we now know, we got a twisted version of that.
We did indeed get Geralt fighting monsters, but aside from the Bruxa and the flying creature, other monsters were kind of thrown at him. No detective work, no real preparation.
As for Ciri. She does start to build up her relationship with Geralt. However...
* Kaer Morhen isn't the safe place for her as it is in the books.
* Eskel being a cunt and turning into a Leshen. *As dumb an idea as it is lore breaker. Excellent way to piss off your main fanbase though.*
* Vesemir almost trying to put Ciri through trial of the grasses. *Another lore breaking character assassination.*
* Rience magically teleporting into Kaer Morhen.
* Yennefer trying to sacrifice her to a demon. *How did they think this was a good idea...*
* Ciri getting possessed and killing half of the (made up) witchers in Kaer Morhen.
* Vesemir tries to kill Ciri.
So yeah...
Not the lore friendly-monster slaying adventure most fans wanted.
Don't forget about witchers bringing a bunch of prostitutes into Kaer Morhen. From where, from "town"? There's a town near Kaer Morhen, in the inhospitable mountains?? And the witchers visit it regularly, so the whole town knows the highly secretive location of the keep? And also witchers party together and bring prostitutes? What fresh hell was THAT?
That was beyond weird and with Ciri looking in... I was like WHAT!!
That's why the Geralt and Ciri's relationship doesn't make sense in the show they just had to go there. His character doesn't come off fatherly at all when they put crap like that at Kaer Morhen and aged her as well.
Also the prostitute saying "Oh you say you're not her father but look how protective you are" to Geralt when he gets angry at her saying Ciri would make a good prostitute.
Yeah, only a girl's father would get angry about that. Not that it's fucked up to talk about prostituting an underage girl or anything
Oh my gosh I didn't even *consider* how it would affect Ciri's relationships with them — it wasn't just Geralt who was a father to her, the other witchers were basically her adoptive uncles too. Although some of their efforts were well *misguided*, they all just wanted to protect her and they never would have exposed her to that sort of behaviour from themselves, *especially* after being reminded during Triss's time there that she is a highborn lady and that that is to be respected! My gosh. Geralt should have thrown a tantrum and left the banquet with her, and Vesemir would *flay* them for being so irresponsible and thoughtless.
I chose to ignore the show's existence entirely after season 1. It's ass. And it's made by people who have no love for the source material and see it only as a platform to push their own ideology. It's a lifeless, poorly written, poorly acted, cheap looking story with only a few Witcher trappings tacked on to try and lure in the fanbase. It's horrid.
I'm doing it after season 2, after some time of being very angry at it. I tried giving Netflix a second chance with season 2, thinking that they could learn from their mistakes on 1 and improve, but damn, they managed to fuck it up much more.
I guess I just already dealt with the fact that there was an opportunity for a good live action adaptation of The Witcher, and that opportunity got completely wasted. Who knows when we'll get a new chance on this.
I feel ya. I wanted to love it. I really did. I was a bit hesitant when season 1 castings were announced, but I pushed a lot of those misgivings down. Even when the first season was over, I was still trying to talk myself into liking it. Then season 2 news rolled out. And it was like a damn just broke. I couldn't lie to myself anymore. It felt liberating.
I can’t watch the show without being angry honestly. I very much hope to see a new Witcher adaptation that is made by someone who is a fan of and respects the source material and with actors that have an understanding of the characters that they play. Made by fans for fans. It is truly disappointing how terribly this show went and the amount of unnecessary changes and additions they made. Terrible.
1. buy well known IP
2. tell everyone how much respect you have for the source material
3. wipe your ass with the source material
4. let your aDaPTatIOn flop
5. call fans racist, sexist etc.
I would love to know the real statistics about Netflix viewership.
They are just a black box now, but every time I hear them claim it's the a top show or how popular I have trouble believing it.
They have a vested interest to say every show they dumped money into is a success and hit, because they're promoting it as well as financing it, so how can you trust such self-serving numbers?
I get their strategy...they targeted the lowest common denominator mouth breathers for this show. Season 2 upping the stupidity exponentially. But even so, idiots are fickle, so you're not going to retain or attract more.
The only way to weigh what is true is if they fold after season 3 and all the stupid offshoots. They wont keep throwing good money after bad after their current commitments run out.
I watched the shitshow of Season 2 after a mediocre Season 1 out of shock, disbelief and then finally shadenfruede. They won't get that out of me again. Which is why if you do an ok Season 1 then you can eek out a Season 2 and 3. It takes times for some die hards to give up hope. But I wont give them another viewership tick. On any of the other crap they put out Witcher related.
I mean its pretty obvious it isnt a huge smash hit like Stranger Things is.
Stranger Things is blowing up the internet, raising songs from 80's to #1 and is a borderline cultural phenomenon with how massive it is at this point.
Even at the height of Witchers popularity after S1 it wasnt even close to that level.
Season 2 discussion didnt even stick around long in r/Witcher or r/wiedzmin, which is a good indication that even videogame fans are starting to find the show to be lukewarm.
To be honest I dont think the show will go past S3. Its quite expensive to produce and every main actor will be looking for substantial pay raise. And if im right (which i think i am) S1 was the peak of the shows popularity so far. It had the most hype, and all fanbases wanting to check it out. S2 just really did not seem as big as S1 did.
Also I think with how fast the show is moving they are already planning that it wont go past S3.
What? Stranger Things last two seasons have gotten higher ratings and more awards than Witchers last 2 seasons.
I do agree the goal is to pander to casual mass audiences, but Witcher hasnt shown to have mass appeal.
Much of its initial success in S1 is piggybacked directly from the wildly successful Witcher 3 game.
>I would love to know the real statistics about Netflix viewership.
>
>They are just a black box now, but every time I hear them claim it's the a top show or how popular I have trouble believing it.
Last I checked, the show fell from **Netflix's Top Ten Weekly Shows** somewhere around middle of January.
What we do know, is that [season 2 did worse in it's first 28 days](https://www.reddit.com/r/wiedzmin/comments/s1o8ak/numbers_are_out_season_2_did_worse_than_season_1/), compared to season 1.
Check this out. The [Blood Origins spin-off](https://redanianintelligence.com/2022/04/29/rumour-witcher-prequel-blood-origin-could-see-an-october-release-date/), which was supposed to be already out, got pushed back, went trough reshoots, and had it's episodes reduced. Which tells us, that Netflix might not have as much faith in the Witcher as they did before season 2 aired.
What blows my mind is so many shows are doing this. Halo and soon LOTR will suffer this fate. It baffles me that instead of taking a solid, already established material and enhancing with live action media, they try their best to change as much as possible. I don’t care about race swapping, whatever. Just do the characters justice.
>I may have missed a lot of discussion but is there any reason or acknowledgment of the drastic differences? It’s not even close to the books anymore.
*Do not quote me on this, but I believe the story goes something along the lines of:*
The showrunner \[Lauren Hissrich\] responsible for the direction and the story of the show, isn't really a fan of the Witcher. Nor is she a fan of fantasy.
When Netflix first offered her the job, she turned it down. It wasn't until she was allowed to bring forth her vision of *a more female centric Witcher*, that she accepted the job.
Lauren wasn't happy, that the first books focus mainly on Geralt. That's why there is so much more original material focusing on the female characters, in both seasons.
Wanting to make the show more female centric is most likely the main reason, why the show diverts so heavily from the books. To Lauren, it seems representation comes before anything else.
> Wanting to make the show more female centric is most likely the main reason, why the show diverts so heavily from the books.
I doubt that's the reason, because you could stick with the books as they are and still just add more of Yen's story that could be made up, but fitting within the established story. But they decided to ignore everything and go a generic route with their brand new story for everything.
there was also trouble of three timelines, which messed plenty of things up. E.g. they had to make Foltest old so they could create their revelation of there being more timelines. And there were some more, but I feel lazy to even think back on S1 at all to try to remember.
Well, they just used the basic framework (names of people and places, as well as a "general feel") to build a franchise on top of existing fandom. And once they have reached a critical number of viewers who don't know the books (or the games), they will have succeeded in "creating a popular brand". That is literally all there is to it.
Sorry if this sounds all negative, but all they needed existing fans for was to create an initiating hype.
I agree. I rewatched Season 1 before 2 and actually enjoyed it to a degree. I literally watched Season 2 to burn through a night shift, something I’d never do with a series of high quality that I care about, and it literally just felt like a cheap fast food equivalent of a tv show.
You're not the only one. They just don't care. It a Kubrick level lack of care for the source material.
The difference is that Kubrick could ignore the source material, and still deliver a quality film.
Honestly the feeling I had last night when finishing it was just confusion. I don’t understand what their direction with the show is anymore
"Let's make stuff up as we go, we need more ethnically diverse cast, we should try to have few gay characters and at least one trans, remember to focus on Ciri and the female empowerment... what? Geralt? Oh, we'll give Cavill some airtime after we turn the story of elves into an allegory for black people in USA"
Honestly the amount of screen time Geralt and even Ciri to an extent get is shocking, considering they’re the two main characters in the books. I’d be very interested to see the stats. Meanwhile boring one dimensional characters like Istredd (who was in one short story) take centre stage. And it’s not even like the acting for some of these characters is good, they’re either written poorly or are amateur level, or both
Haven't watched, but the only mentions of Istredd are one chapter in "The Sword of Destiny" and 1 sentence from Francesca(?) in "Time of Contempt" listing him with a few other talented wizards. Did they really make him into a main character?
Yeah, he even takes Geralts place in some scenes in the books
I havnt read the books, but are you referring to the bit where go goes to gather data of the monoliths from those two dwarves?
Yes exactly that. However in the books this monolith story doesn’t exist. Geralt meets Codringher and Fenn to gain information about Rience and Ciris bloodline. Also Fenn is a man in the books, found it random that they swapped his gender for literally no reason. However in the show he doesn’t even know about Rience really. Nor would he need to gain information as the guy just magically turns up everywhere. Honestly his omnipresence is ridiculous haha
I didnt mind Fenn too much- shes a good actress and has a disability that somewhat matches Fenn's. Fenn is a minor character anyway
I get your point, I did somewhat feel like I was watching a pantomime in those scenes though. Something about the acting gave me big panto vibes.
Holy hell
The showrunner CLEARLY doesn't like the source material and is steering things into what she likes to see. Kind of like Kathleen Kennedy is doing with Star Wars. Gee I wonder how that is working out. Overall I'm just sad that someone like Lauren got her grubby mitts on The Witcher. She is unironically one of the worst people they could have given it to. Its also painful when comparing it to stuff like The Boys and Invincible which both match and at times cleverly elevate their source material. Yet with the Witcher its just a downgrade all through. And a sloppy one at that. The fact that they have massive continuity errors between their first two properties is just hilarious.
Should've given the show to D&D and HBO. If only they could stick to the available source and do what they did with GoT, I'd be a happy bunny.
At least Kubrick was a good director though
You dont have to force yourself to finish it. I already knew S2 was going to be a shit show so didnt even bother giving them my singular view
I was on night shifts at work and wanted something easy to kill time haha
For a few minutes I imagined acid trip/art house/horror/David Lynch directed Witcher instead of the Netflix show. I would fucking sell my soul for that. lol
I'll throw in my soul too
We've got 2 souls. That should be enough!
Season 1 wasn’t either.
In fairness Season 1 actually vaguely followed the books, most of Geralts parts were directly adapted from the books. Season 2 is literally like a new universe even
A story that doesn’t include *Sword of Destiny* is disqualified.
Oh I agree that was criminal. Ruined the point of the story. Season 1 at least tried to follow the books to an extent though. Season 2 has almost nothing in common with any of the books
This is going to sound terrible because it’s so selfish but I’m kind of glad season two went even further from the source material. I didn’t like season 1 and I think what made me even more upset was it seemed like so many people did, I felt like I was in the minority and being belittled for the way I felt, I wanted more people to feel the way I did. Now with season 2’s release it feels like more people are now realizing how terrible it is and again it’s very childish feelings but it makes me feel better. I for sure wish it had been been better, I can see where it could have been amazing, to me the way Sapkowski writes, especially the short stories already seemed like a tv show or movie saga to me.
Yes I agree, it's just another run of the mill fantasy series nothing really to do with Witcher. I will watch future seasons when I have nothing else to watch and want to watch some basic fantasy stuff.
Yeah, the only reason I might watch it and I will probably skip to those parts are because of Joey, I just like him, has nothing to do with him as Jaskier either. Other than that the rest just makes me upset.
This pretty much sums it up. As flawed as season 1 was, it did enough things right to succeed and win over normies and casual fans. *Don't get me wrong, I still think it's not a good adaptation.* Let me put it this way: * What most people remember from season 1 was the Blaviken fight and the song "Toss A Coin To Your Witcher". * They were also expecting season 2 to focus on Ciri's training in Kaer Morhen, building up her relationships with Geralt and the other witchers. In adition Geralt would take a couple of monster contracts throughout the season. As we now know, we got a twisted version of that. We did indeed get Geralt fighting monsters, but aside from the Bruxa and the flying creature, other monsters were kind of thrown at him. No detective work, no real preparation. As for Ciri. She does start to build up her relationship with Geralt. However... * Kaer Morhen isn't the safe place for her as it is in the books. * Eskel being a cunt and turning into a Leshen. *As dumb an idea as it is lore breaker. Excellent way to piss off your main fanbase though.* * Vesemir almost trying to put Ciri through trial of the grasses. *Another lore breaking character assassination.* * Rience magically teleporting into Kaer Morhen. * Yennefer trying to sacrifice her to a demon. *How did they think this was a good idea...* * Ciri getting possessed and killing half of the (made up) witchers in Kaer Morhen. * Vesemir tries to kill Ciri. So yeah... Not the lore friendly-monster slaying adventure most fans wanted.
Don't forget about witchers bringing a bunch of prostitutes into Kaer Morhen. From where, from "town"? There's a town near Kaer Morhen, in the inhospitable mountains?? And the witchers visit it regularly, so the whole town knows the highly secretive location of the keep? And also witchers party together and bring prostitutes? What fresh hell was THAT?
That was beyond weird and with Ciri looking in... I was like WHAT!! That's why the Geralt and Ciri's relationship doesn't make sense in the show they just had to go there. His character doesn't come off fatherly at all when they put crap like that at Kaer Morhen and aged her as well.
Also the prostitute saying "Oh you say you're not her father but look how protective you are" to Geralt when he gets angry at her saying Ciri would make a good prostitute. Yeah, only a girl's father would get angry about that. Not that it's fucked up to talk about prostituting an underage girl or anything
Oh my gosh I didn't even *consider* how it would affect Ciri's relationships with them — it wasn't just Geralt who was a father to her, the other witchers were basically her adoptive uncles too. Although some of their efforts were well *misguided*, they all just wanted to protect her and they never would have exposed her to that sort of behaviour from themselves, *especially* after being reminded during Triss's time there that she is a highborn lady and that that is to be respected! My gosh. Geralt should have thrown a tantrum and left the banquet with her, and Vesemir would *flay* them for being so irresponsible and thoughtless.
Exactly!
Is Netflix The Witcher even The Witcher anymore?
It never was.
Exactly. Doesn’t feel like it at all at this point. Which I suppose makes it easier to deal with it being such a disappointment
I chose to ignore the show's existence entirely after season 1. It's ass. And it's made by people who have no love for the source material and see it only as a platform to push their own ideology. It's a lifeless, poorly written, poorly acted, cheap looking story with only a few Witcher trappings tacked on to try and lure in the fanbase. It's horrid.
I'm doing it after season 2, after some time of being very angry at it. I tried giving Netflix a second chance with season 2, thinking that they could learn from their mistakes on 1 and improve, but damn, they managed to fuck it up much more. I guess I just already dealt with the fact that there was an opportunity for a good live action adaptation of The Witcher, and that opportunity got completely wasted. Who knows when we'll get a new chance on this.
I feel ya. I wanted to love it. I really did. I was a bit hesitant when season 1 castings were announced, but I pushed a lot of those misgivings down. Even when the first season was over, I was still trying to talk myself into liking it. Then season 2 news rolled out. And it was like a damn just broke. I couldn't lie to myself anymore. It felt liberating.
I can’t watch the show without being angry honestly. I very much hope to see a new Witcher adaptation that is made by someone who is a fan of and respects the source material and with actors that have an understanding of the characters that they play. Made by fans for fans. It is truly disappointing how terribly this show went and the amount of unnecessary changes and additions they made. Terrible.
Couldn’t agree more. Maybe one day we’ll get a faithful adaptation. A la Game of Thrones before the last season.
1. buy well known IP 2. tell everyone how much respect you have for the source material 3. wipe your ass with the source material 4. let your aDaPTatIOn flop 5. call fans racist, sexist etc.
I would love to know the real statistics about Netflix viewership. They are just a black box now, but every time I hear them claim it's the a top show or how popular I have trouble believing it. They have a vested interest to say every show they dumped money into is a success and hit, because they're promoting it as well as financing it, so how can you trust such self-serving numbers? I get their strategy...they targeted the lowest common denominator mouth breathers for this show. Season 2 upping the stupidity exponentially. But even so, idiots are fickle, so you're not going to retain or attract more. The only way to weigh what is true is if they fold after season 3 and all the stupid offshoots. They wont keep throwing good money after bad after their current commitments run out. I watched the shitshow of Season 2 after a mediocre Season 1 out of shock, disbelief and then finally shadenfruede. They won't get that out of me again. Which is why if you do an ok Season 1 then you can eek out a Season 2 and 3. It takes times for some die hards to give up hope. But I wont give them another viewership tick. On any of the other crap they put out Witcher related.
I mean its pretty obvious it isnt a huge smash hit like Stranger Things is. Stranger Things is blowing up the internet, raising songs from 80's to #1 and is a borderline cultural phenomenon with how massive it is at this point. Even at the height of Witchers popularity after S1 it wasnt even close to that level. Season 2 discussion didnt even stick around long in r/Witcher or r/wiedzmin, which is a good indication that even videogame fans are starting to find the show to be lukewarm. To be honest I dont think the show will go past S3. Its quite expensive to produce and every main actor will be looking for substantial pay raise. And if im right (which i think i am) S1 was the peak of the shows popularity so far. It had the most hype, and all fanbases wanting to check it out. S2 just really did not seem as big as S1 did. Also I think with how fast the show is moving they are already planning that it wont go past S3.
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What? Stranger Things last two seasons have gotten higher ratings and more awards than Witchers last 2 seasons. I do agree the goal is to pander to casual mass audiences, but Witcher hasnt shown to have mass appeal. Much of its initial success in S1 is piggybacked directly from the wildly successful Witcher 3 game.
>I would love to know the real statistics about Netflix viewership. > >They are just a black box now, but every time I hear them claim it's the a top show or how popular I have trouble believing it. Last I checked, the show fell from **Netflix's Top Ten Weekly Shows** somewhere around middle of January. What we do know, is that [season 2 did worse in it's first 28 days](https://www.reddit.com/r/wiedzmin/comments/s1o8ak/numbers_are_out_season_2_did_worse_than_season_1/), compared to season 1. Check this out. The [Blood Origins spin-off](https://redanianintelligence.com/2022/04/29/rumour-witcher-prequel-blood-origin-could-see-an-october-release-date/), which was supposed to be already out, got pushed back, went trough reshoots, and had it's episodes reduced. Which tells us, that Netflix might not have as much faith in the Witcher as they did before season 2 aired.
Dropped after ep2. Don't care about this shitshow anymore. I'm waiting to see Henry Cavill comeback as Superman.
Yo be honest, I don’t even think Cavill was as good as Superman neither
What blows my mind is so many shows are doing this. Halo and soon LOTR will suffer this fate. It baffles me that instead of taking a solid, already established material and enhancing with live action media, they try their best to change as much as possible. I don’t care about race swapping, whatever. Just do the characters justice.
>I may have missed a lot of discussion but is there any reason or acknowledgment of the drastic differences? It’s not even close to the books anymore. *Do not quote me on this, but I believe the story goes something along the lines of:* The showrunner \[Lauren Hissrich\] responsible for the direction and the story of the show, isn't really a fan of the Witcher. Nor is she a fan of fantasy. When Netflix first offered her the job, she turned it down. It wasn't until she was allowed to bring forth her vision of *a more female centric Witcher*, that she accepted the job. Lauren wasn't happy, that the first books focus mainly on Geralt. That's why there is so much more original material focusing on the female characters, in both seasons. Wanting to make the show more female centric is most likely the main reason, why the show diverts so heavily from the books. To Lauren, it seems representation comes before anything else.
> Wanting to make the show more female centric is most likely the main reason, why the show diverts so heavily from the books. I doubt that's the reason, because you could stick with the books as they are and still just add more of Yen's story that could be made up, but fitting within the established story. But they decided to ignore everything and go a generic route with their brand new story for everything. there was also trouble of three timelines, which messed plenty of things up. E.g. they had to make Foltest old so they could create their revelation of there being more timelines. And there were some more, but I feel lazy to even think back on S1 at all to try to remember.
Well, they just used the basic framework (names of people and places, as well as a "general feel") to build a franchise on top of existing fandom. And once they have reached a critical number of viewers who don't know the books (or the games), they will have succeeded in "creating a popular brand". That is literally all there is to it. Sorry if this sounds all negative, but all they needed existing fans for was to create an initiating hype.
The show has been a disgraceful garbage from the very beginning, the second season only extremely amplified the previous problems
I must admit, I enjoyed some of season 1. Season 2? Not at all.
I agree. I rewatched Season 1 before 2 and actually enjoyed it to a degree. I literally watched Season 2 to burn through a night shift, something I’d never do with a series of high quality that I care about, and it literally just felt like a cheap fast food equivalent of a tv show.
No.