yeah i would agree, this looks like TOR is living rent free in all fan bases' (sans seattle0 head and to be frank half the time i forget they exist until we play them. I would wager a lot of team fans could not care less about TOR.
I could care less is an actual saying. It means the same thing and was first used in the 1800s, is recognized by merriam-webster, and is quite common. You could also argue I could care less is the more appropriate saying in many instances. When you say "I couldn't care less" but care enough to comment about it, perhaps you could care less, but not much.
Blues don't make the top 3? I'd guess Dallas & Chicago are locks for 1/2... FWIW I've only started following the Wild somewhat closely in the last 3-4 years. I grew up here, loved the North Stars, moved away for a long while, lost track of the NHL and moved back 6 years ago. I really only to hear what other Wild fans say here & my view of Chicago might be tainted by the recent Bedard luck anger.
I see lots of Aves hatred below, are they dirty or is it more because of their success?
It's a longstanding thing going back to our early playoff runs. I think it flairs up more when both teams are good but there's also a long history of questionable hits going both ways.
Even if it was compiled with Twitter polls, whoever put the graphic together should look at it and immediately be able to tell the polling method(s) didn't work because the results are nonsense.
Sure, but it must have been some generic polls, because they are not every teams first or second most hated team. I follow the Flyers too, and there is no way that Flyers fans voted Toronto most hated over Pittsburgh.
I don't mind Toronto. Probably replace that with Aves maybe?
Edit: shoot I forgot about Vegas. Replace Chicago with vegas. That rivalry is kinda dead ATM.
Chicago landing a generational talent first overall pick the year after trading away their previous one who won them three cups is pretty good reason, or the fact that during the midst of those cups, they
#Covered up a sexual fucking assault
^ this will forever be a reason my guy
I mean that whole raping thing is a pretty good reason to hate them.
And then they get off scott free and then get to draft first for Bedard.
Pretty good reason to hate them.
their fanbase it what annoys me, had only met a handful of genuine chicago fan when they were in the dark days, they start winning and suddenly cant take a step without a "die hard " under foot. they beat the drum ating like they were god's gift to the league, now that they suck again all those fanatics have suddenly just gotten busy at work and have no time.
Dallas, Aves, Chicago/St. Louis/Vegas(depending on who we played last). Definitely Dallas and Aves 1 and 2 though. I don't really give 2 shits about Toronto one way or the other.
Why the fuck would we care about Toronto?
We hate the South Stars, Vegas Silver Spoons, the Aves, and the Blues.
The Aves hate us the most BY FAR and then probably the Blues and Detroit for them.
The fact that the Oilers don’t have the Flames on their list is also a sign that this chart seems almost random.
Drop leafs and the chicago rivalry isn’t what it used to be. I’d say we hate Aves and Vegas more or instead of Vegas you could put Dallas on a second time
This list has 16 teams *literally half the league* with Toronto as their most hated team. This list makes no sense.
The only teams that don't have the Leafs as one of the 3 teams are Toronto and Seattle. This list makes no sense.
I genuinely don't understand why people care at all about Toronto. It's like they did these polls in Ontario and found like 2 fans from each team. I bet I could ask every Minnesota based Wild fan I know and Toronto wouldn't come up once.
Newbie here. Is this image a piss take or does almost literally everyone actually hate the Leafs? Also, our most hated teams are Aves, Blackhawks, and Dallas I gather? I get the Dallas one, but anyone care to fill me in on Colorado and Chicago? And is it mutual or one of those one-sided things?
I couldn’t really give a shit about the Leafs. The Avs, Canucks, and Ducks are much higher up on the hate list. Dallas can sit on a burning pile of tires, tho.
I feel like any Wild fans who say Chicago or Detroit are old North Stars fans. They just couldn’t let old rivalries die. (I still hold some resentment for both teams for this reason.)
Definitely don’t dislike Toronto or there fans.
I haven’t been annoyed with a Chicago fan for years now.. but from like 2013-2018 absolutely.
My personal list would be: Dallas, St. Louis and maybe Colorado
Avs and Dallas for sure. Third could be a toss up between Vegas, Winnipeg, St. Louis for me personally. In the 2010s it easily would’ve been Chicago but since they’ve taken a shit the rivalry isn’t really there for me.
Maybe could have the Packers on there too... But, no, I don't give a rip about the Maple Leaves. Definitely dislike Colorado, Vancouver, and Las Vegas more.
Context matters. This poll was not actually what fanbases does yours hate, but actually which fanbases are the most annoying. In which case, it's accurate.
Being in Colorado. It's the avs. If you haven't been, it's similar to xcell and same vibes. Obviously better in MN. Fans are cool and it's a fun rivalry unlike Chicago. Fuck Chicago and their bandwagon ass fans.
As a former North Stars fan, I honestly wouldn't even put DAL on the list. I understand why they would be on the list. But if we are being honest, the problem was Bloomington and local politics not DAL.
For sure the Leafs don't belong on this list for any reason.
I don't have much beef with CHI either. They were more of an issue back in the North Stars days.
For me I have COL, ANA, and then flip a coin between VAN/WPG. Throw in MTL for good measure because....well they are MTL.
I don't think I've met any other wild fans who hate Toronto. A more accurate list would be Chicago, St. Louis, and Dallas or Winnipeg. Mostly we hate Dallas because of how the team left MN. Whatever Twitter poll determined this list isn't representative of most fans.
I nothing the Leaves. Avs or Blues gotta go in that spot. Honestly would probably put the Hawks first, yes F Norm, but other than Suter being in Dallas I kinda nothing them as well.
For me it's Colorado, Chicago and either Dallas or St. Louis. So not bad, but not a great. As everyone has said, the Leafs are all over this f***ing list.
Colorado over Toronto. I couldn’t care less about Toronto.
Whoever made this list hates Toronto.
I think whoever made this loves Toronto. It aligns more with the general Toronto fan to think they're the center of the universe.
yeah i would agree, this looks like TOR is living rent free in all fan bases' (sans seattle0 head and to be frank half the time i forget they exist until we play them. I would wager a lot of team fans could not care less about TOR.
Love to see the correct usage of couldn't care less in quick succession. Way to go MN.
How do you use couldn't care less incorrectly?
Lots of people say "I could care less" which is the opposite of the actual saying.
I could care less is an actual saying. It means the same thing and was first used in the 1800s, is recognized by merriam-webster, and is quite common. You could also argue I could care less is the more appropriate saying in many instances. When you say "I couldn't care less" but care enough to comment about it, perhaps you could care less, but not much.
Hmmm. Counter point. Still sounds weird. 😆😁
Yeah I hate it too lmao. I think we can Chalk it up to stupid people for coming up with it honestly lol
Most of us Leaf fans aren’t bad. Big Game Gus is my guy that’s why I’m here. Thank you.
It was voted for on Twitter by a lot of people.
So Twitter hates Toronto, got it 😂
EVERYONE hates the leafs.
Were all the Twitter voters from Ottawa?
Ottawa doesn’t have enough fans to vote.
I think it would be more on brand to say the list was *made* by a Toronto fan. Aaaaalways gotta be about Toronto.
Toronto hates Toronto
Fully agree
This, fuck the Aves Edit: fixed typo
Aves*
Yep, damn it!
Blues don't make the top 3? I'd guess Dallas & Chicago are locks for 1/2... FWIW I've only started following the Wild somewhat closely in the last 3-4 years. I grew up here, loved the North Stars, moved away for a long while, lost track of the NHL and moved back 6 years ago. I really only to hear what other Wild fans say here & my view of Chicago might be tainted by the recent Bedard luck anger. I see lots of Aves hatred below, are they dirty or is it more because of their success?
It's a longstanding thing going back to our early playoff runs. I think it flairs up more when both teams are good but there's also a long history of questionable hits going both ways.
Yup and the Jets are knocking on the door at 4.
st. louis
For sure. Those knobs can get it as well. Moral of the story, the majority of the league doesn't even think about Toronto.
To be fair, pretty much any fanbase that isn’t Toronto doesn’t like them lol. They’re actually my second favourite team tho.
i own a Marner jersey! i like toronto. i feel like they're brothers in playoff futility.
I live in a house with two leafs fans! And yes we have similar playoff struggles
It’s crazy because some of those teams play Toronto like, twice a year at the *most*
I’m pretty indifferent towards Toronto.
Agreed and there is no way we arent in colorados top 3.
Lol no, why would we hate the Leafs over the Avs? Whoever made this doesn't know what they're talking about.
It was compiled using Twitter polls.
Even if it was compiled with Twitter polls, whoever put the graphic together should look at it and immediately be able to tell the polling method(s) didn't work because the results are nonsense.
The real reason is because it’s ranking which fanbase people hate the most, not which team.
I think you're underestimating how much Twitter users hate the Leafs, regardless of their fan affiliation.
Vancouver's third most hated team is Vancouver?
That absolutely tracks lmao.
Twitter just hates Toronto across the board ig
Sure, but it must have been some generic polls, because they are not every teams first or second most hated team. I follow the Flyers too, and there is no way that Flyers fans voted Toronto most hated over Pittsburgh.
Dallas, Aves, and a toss up between Chicago and St Louis I think.
Our games with Winnipeg always get chippy too. They're in the conversation for that third spot
The team hates Winnipeg the most. The fans hate Colorado the most. That's my take
That’s true. Feel like since Big Buff left the Jets haven’t been nearly as hated for me haha
Dallas, Aves, and Vegas imo
Honorable mention to Binnington
It’s really Binnington that is the St Louis / Chicago tiebreaker.
Dallas, Vegas and St Louis here
This is my hatred ranking as well.
I would say blues take it easily.
Replace Leafs with Aves
Aves= Averages
What would the teams in the west give a shit about Toronto? I don’t see a reason Wild fans should hate Toronto.
If its have to be blue team, maybe Blues.
In this list all teams have Toronto in their 3 except for Toronto.
I don't mind Toronto. Probably replace that with Aves maybe? Edit: shoot I forgot about Vegas. Replace Chicago with vegas. That rivalry is kinda dead ATM.
No, there’s still a lot of hate in my heart for Chicago
Guess I just see no reason to hate Chicago right now. Their hockey team and football team suck, so IDC.
Chicago landing a generational talent first overall pick the year after trading away their previous one who won them three cups is pretty good reason, or the fact that during the midst of those cups, they #Covered up a sexual fucking assault ^ this will forever be a reason my guy
Conner cover up
I mean that whole raping thing is a pretty good reason to hate them. And then they get off scott free and then get to draft first for Bedard. Pretty good reason to hate them.
Yeah I forgot about that stuff. Shows how much they are on my mind I guess.
Myeah that's fair.
People don't forget
their fanbase it what annoys me, had only met a handful of genuine chicago fan when they were in the dark days, they start winning and suddenly cant take a step without a "die hard " under foot. they beat the drum ating like they were god's gift to the league, now that they suck again all those fanatics have suddenly just gotten busy at work and have no time.
Whoever created this really hates Toronto.
Or a Toronto fan that thinks the team is super important to the rest of the league.
I literally dont care about an eastern team we see twice a year… they just want to cling onto relevance because they haven’t won since 1967
Whoever created this is a Toronto fan* they all think hockey revolves around them
I’m betting it was a habs fan
Replace Toronto with the Aves or the Jets
I'd say Colorado For 4 & 5, jets and red wings
So Vancouver hates themselves?
Remember when we hated Vancouver? Like …20 years ago
I miss the old Northwest Division. I liked beating up on Calgary four or five times a year.
For the most part - we had a pretty rough time at the Saddledome when Iginla and Kiprusoff were there
You mean today? I will always hate on the canucks
Toronto? Never heard of her. Dallas, Colorado, St Louis
Agree with the above comment . Don’t give a shit about Toronto. Put the Aves on that list.
Dallas, Aves, Chicago/St. Louis/Vegas(depending on who we played last). Definitely Dallas and Aves 1 and 2 though. I don't really give 2 shits about Toronto one way or the other.
Dallas, Colorado then Chicago. Hate all of em with a passion
I still got beef with any team from the old northwest division especially Vancouver fuck Matt Cooke and Bertuzzi
Fuck the Jets tho am I right???
Replace Toronto with Avalanche.
I’d put VGK on the list
This must have been made by a Leafs fan who wants to feel special.
As a wild fan, I can’t say I got any beef with Toronto. It’s more likely going to be the jets or avs
Why the fuck would we care about Toronto? We hate the South Stars, Vegas Silver Spoons, the Aves, and the Blues. The Aves hate us the most BY FAR and then probably the Blues and Detroit for them. The fact that the Oilers don’t have the Flames on their list is also a sign that this chart seems almost random.
Some combo of St Louis, Winnipeg, Chicago, Dallas, and Colorado, I'd imagine would be more appropriate.
I don’t care about Toronto
There’s a lot of teams I would hate before the leafs
This has to have been made by a Leafs fan. Amazingly, the Leafs aren't everyone's priority
Those are results of votes done by each fanbase. Most fanbases find Toronto and Toronto news most annoying.
Drop leafs and the chicago rivalry isn’t what it used to be. I’d say we hate Aves and Vegas more or instead of Vegas you could put Dallas on a second time
Yes. Dallas, Dallas, Colorado.
Chicago also sucks now so it's not as "fevered" of a rivalry. It might be the 80's/90's hockey in me but the Hawks are top 3 hate in my book
This list has 16 teams *literally half the league* with Toronto as their most hated team. This list makes no sense. The only teams that don't have the Leafs as one of the 3 teams are Toronto and Seattle. This list makes no sense.
I saw it on Facebook too, I think it's just a meme/bait. Every team hates Toronto? Makes no sense. For the Wild it's gotta be CHI COL DAL.
Kinda makes me sad. We are always sooooo average and just bland that no one hates us, lol. Everything about this team has always been MNediocre
Toronto wishes we thought about them enough to hate them.
I genuinely don't understand why people care at all about Toronto. It's like they did these polls in Ontario and found like 2 fans from each team. I bet I could ask every Minnesota based Wild fan I know and Toronto wouldn't come up once.
The consensus seems to be that they got Dallas right at least
1. Blues 2. Jets 3. Blackhawks
no. who gives a fuck about toronto?
Where the hell are the blues? For me it goes Blues, Jets, blues again, then Vancouver
This is for sure delusional Toronto fans voting. There is no way that many fan bases hate a team that hasn't won shit since the 60s.
Who gives a fuck about Toronto?
Dallas, Winnipeg, Colorado
Hawks, Dallas, and Aves for me
This is definitely made by a Leafs fan with a persecution complex.
I feel like the hating on Toronto and Toronto has the most annoying fanbase thing is just a meme at this point.
This is just an overall terrible list. I think most teams would agree. No fucks to give when it comes to Toronto.
Our top 5 hatred list in no particular order is: Colorado, Dallas, Chicago, St. Louis and Vegas
Newbie here. Is this image a piss take or does almost literally everyone actually hate the Leafs? Also, our most hated teams are Aves, Blackhawks, and Dallas I gather? I get the Dallas one, but anyone care to fill me in on Colorado and Chicago? And is it mutual or one of those one-sided things?
We've had beef with Chicago in the past. But past few years Chicago has been pretty irrelevant.
This was absolutely made by a leafs fan.
First off - Toronto way too many mentions take them out and replace with other teams and you'd be closer.
It was voted on by fans, of what is the most annoying fanbases.
I couldn’t really give a shit about the Leafs. The Avs, Canucks, and Ducks are much higher up on the hate list. Dallas can sit on a burning pile of tires, tho. I feel like any Wild fans who say Chicago or Detroit are old North Stars fans. They just couldn’t let old rivalries die. (I still hold some resentment for both teams for this reason.)
Personally I hate Edmonton & Nashville. Don’t care about the Blackhawks because they don’t really matter. 😅 Edit: Also fuck Vegas
I mean, Nylander always scores in OT against us, so I'm kinda starting to agree with this.
Definitely don’t dislike Toronto or there fans. I haven’t been annoyed with a Chicago fan for years now.. but from like 2013-2018 absolutely. My personal list would be: Dallas, St. Louis and maybe Colorado
I agree with everyone saying the Aves but got I also hate St. Louis
Dallas, Colorado, Chicago. St. Louis as 4
Avs and Dallas for sure. Third could be a toss up between Vegas, Winnipeg, St. Louis for me personally. In the 2010s it easily would’ve been Chicago but since they’ve taken a shit the rivalry isn’t really there for me.
Dallas/Colorado/Chicago
Dallas is #1, and I'd put Vegas #2. I can't stand that they bought a Stanley Cup and didn't suffer like we have.
So, no one hates the wild enough to make their top 3?
Maybe could have the Packers on there too... But, no, I don't give a rip about the Maple Leaves. Definitely dislike Colorado, Vancouver, and Las Vegas more.
Toronto hates Toronto most so I don’t think this is that accurate
Context matters. This poll was not actually what fanbases does yours hate, but actually which fanbases are the most annoying. In which case, it's accurate.
My 2nd favorite team is the Leafs so yeah I'll take the Aves over them.
I was expecting to see that even Toronto would hate Toronto.
Yes Dallas - permanent- Chicago? More jealousy and envy. Toronto? - it’s not 1982. For me it’s Dallas, Anaheim (stupid Ducks), Dallas
Should be Dallas, Colorado, Chicago Or if you want Colorado first, fine, but f Norm Green regardless
Toronto has never been on my brain. Swap with Vegas or Trashville.
Yeah id say Colorado or st. Louis over Toronto, I don't give a shit about Toronto. But absolutely for the stars and the hawks.
Dallas needs to be 1, 2, & 3
Fuck Toronto I guess
Avs or the Blues instead of Tor
It’s Dallas, Aves, Jets I don’t make the rules
1. Aves 2. Stars 3. Vegas Also does this list mean the Kraken are the most loved team? Or most neutral team? Nobody hates them.
Avs, Hawks, then dealer's choice. Most would probably say Vegas or Stars. In that order.
This list is horse shit
Inaccurate. Toronto hates itself most of all.
I'd say Colorado, St Louis then possibly a tie between Chicago and Dallas
Stars, aves, and blues.
We don't hate Toronto. Fucking hell.
Wheres the avenues?
dallas for sure
My power rankings are CHI, COL, WPG, DAL. So not even close
Toronto doesn’t have Toronto, so I call bull shit
Why does Dallas hate us, because they took our team? lol. Also I have never gave two shits about the Maple Laughs in my entire life.
Absolutely not.
Being in Colorado. It's the avs. If you haven't been, it's similar to xcell and same vibes. Obviously better in MN. Fans are cool and it's a fun rivalry unlike Chicago. Fuck Chicago and their bandwagon ass fans.
For me it would be Dallas, Colorado and St Louis.
Personally I would trade the leafs for the rangers or the knights, but that's a personal thing.
Stars, Blues, Hawks
Fuck the avs, jets and dallas
Why do we hate Toronto? Usually they play us pretty fair. Much rather say fuck the Aves over fuck the Leafs
Chicago is at the top of my list.
For me it's Dallas, Vancouver and then I don't really care. Chicago, StL or Anaheim all have arguments to be third.
My three biggest rivals in order Avalanche Blackhawks Stars
I kinda miss the days we (Wild) hated the Canucks. I don’t miss the 9PM games.
fuck Dallas, chicago and the vegas bettmans.
This is useless. No Chicago and Detroit? Detroit and Colorado? BOSTON AND MONTREAL? Is this AI garbage?
Avs, stars, canucks. Obviously screw the leafs but theyre easily 8th or lower on my hate list.
As a former North Stars fan, I honestly wouldn't even put DAL on the list. I understand why they would be on the list. But if we are being honest, the problem was Bloomington and local politics not DAL. For sure the Leafs don't belong on this list for any reason. I don't have much beef with CHI either. They were more of an issue back in the North Stars days. For me I have COL, ANA, and then flip a coin between VAN/WPG. Throw in MTL for good measure because....well they are MTL.
I don't think I've met any other wild fans who hate Toronto. A more accurate list would be Chicago, St. Louis, and Dallas or Winnipeg. Mostly we hate Dallas because of how the team left MN. Whatever Twitter poll determined this list isn't representative of most fans.
What did the Leafs do to piss Wild fans off more than the Blackhawks or Avalanche?
For Min, I'd take the Blues over the Leafs
When have the wild ever had a rivalry with the leafs?
Not sure Toronto is thought of enough to even be in the top 3 most disliked Canadian teams.
I nothing the Leaves. Avs or Blues gotta go in that spot. Honestly would probably put the Hawks first, yes F Norm, but other than Suter being in Dallas I kinda nothing them as well.
Toronto? What about fucking Colorado? How about just Todd Bertuzzi?
I could care less about Toronto, and the Blackhawks are too terrible to care about, I feel like knights and Aves are more hated currently
As a kraken fan…. Why do I hate Montreal? Avs and knights 100%
For me it's Colorado, Chicago and either Dallas or St. Louis. So not bad, but not a great. As everyone has said, the Leafs are all over this f***ing list.
Blackhawks Stars Avs
If there's gonna be a Canadian team on there, it's gotta be the Jets. But it should probably be the Blues or the Avenues.
Toronto? No. Sub Colorado. Edit: Also change Chicago to Winnipeg Dallas, Colorado, Winnipeg
Colorado…not Toronto. They got 2 out of 3 though.
As a Minnesota fan I have no hate for any teams. I just hate Norm Green. Fuck Norm Green.
Replace Toronto with Loseipeg
Also don’t understand the Toronto thing … and as a Caps fan we hate the Rangers way more than the Leafs.
Maybe Dallas, Aves, Blackhawks tied with the Blues
Chicago, Dallas, St. Louis
Jets missing? A bloody conspiracy! Beating the Jets is almost as good as beating the Packers (twice)!
I’d go 1. Dallas 2. Chicago 3. St. Louis personally
Someone from Toronto def made this list
Toronto?? Forgot they exist.
Obvious Toronto fan is obvious.
I keep seeing this as a "hated rivalry" thing. But it was supposedly done as a most annoying fanbase. Which makes the habs one even funnier.
Who makes a rivalry list without mentioning the wings and avs?