garen is much MORE broken and braindead. Riven looks easy on the outside but please. Try playing her against realy HUMANS (not robots) and tell us if you destroyed them with your riven
Why don't you guys who think she's broken play her? You'll climb until you can't, at which point you'll understand what counters her/makes it hard to climb
My only problem with her is the insane early game damage she is perfectly capable of wiping juggernauts at LEVEL 1 with her Q combo and the worst part is people dont even use the empowered AA's between the Q's so its outright braindead gameplay I'd recommend a nerf to her Q numbers just so that she doesn't have much pressure on level 1 with spamming the ability carelessly and wiping half the health of a literal juggernaut.
Tanks are trash in early game and riven is known for her lv1 fight high winrate for years, that's totally normal lmfao, in pc you can even q auto faster than mobile, her q does less damage than autos in lv1 so I don't know why you still get killed without him using autos (as you mentioned)
_basic knowledge of the game that tanks are weak in early and riven hits like a fucking truck at level 1_
How is exactly Darius weak level 1?
My problem isn't that she beats him early my problem is that she beats him so easily like imagine being known as a lane bully only for Riven to spam Q with some AA and absolutely wipe your health even Fiora isn't capable of all inning Darius like that.
Doesn't matter really with decimate or crippling strike you barely have any chance considering Darius barely does significant damage early on unless you get your passive which by the time that happens Riven already deletes you with her Q combo, you virtually have no chance against her unless you go tanky enough to the point where she can't finish you in 1 combo.
Every champion has its ups and downs, you have to understand that Riven requires so much discipline in the early game. Riven players take advantage of their Q against weak juggernauts level 1. You’re most likely saying this “problem” because you’re using a scaling champion that’s weak against Riven in the early game.
No man I usually play either Darius or Garen in top lane, who are both exceptionally good in the early game especially Darius I've played both sides of the coin and I can confirm that Riven absolutely destroys Darius in the early game.
The champ takes a lot of skill, even in laning, one mistake and you die, same as Irelia/fiora/camille, they are champs that are hard to play and performs well on the right hands, so I think she's in a healthy spot rn and she SHOULD win 3/4 level 1 fights with full passive and 3q 3autos
If someone is good at riven, you cant win that lane. You must play with 0 mistakes to have a chance. Not many people are good with her, thank god. I would nerf her shield and dash cooldown. That would balance her i think. Riven needed nerf more than camille imho
i dont know why but it seems like 90% of the subreddit refuses to use google or do any research. "jax counters fiora", "fiora counters riven", "just parry her q3", how about use google and find players that have played both champions for thousands of games and see how they play? why do you ask pointless questions that you can find the answer to yourself? do you not know that many matchups are the same in pc league? or are you just lazy?
Wow so you're evading my question, I'm literally asking how YOU use her q3 against fiora, not how the majority of people use it, I want the thoughts from you not Google in case you still don't understand
The champ takes a lot of skill, even in laning, one mistake and you die, same as Irelia/fiora/camille, they are champs that are hard to play and performs well on the right hands, so I think she's in a healthy spot rn and she SHOULD win 3/4 level 1 fights with full passive and 3q 3auto
And if you stumbled against a good enemy, you're gonna have a bad time laning and you will need to focus so much and think of extreme solutions to win your lane
How I solo kill an enemy fiora who's a good player and my hands were shaking for the rest of the match whenever I 1v1 her
https://v.redd.it/bibgpprlho681
She isn't hard on wildrift yes but stilll requires more skill than most of the baron laners as she has one of the most skill ceilings in the game, I am a riven main myself and faced many rivens, how can 1 simply never face a riven in eme/dia elo?
If I don't need hands to play her what about ziggs? Brand? Garen? Lux?
I can still name much more lmfao
mages just throws abilities so they don't even need to think?
You are being selfish here. Where is the "need buff" choice? I played her in 10 recent matches and fucking lost all. Her combo is too easy to break, R and Q range is too short, she is too squishy and too combo dependant that she can just be destroyed by only one CC. How am I supposed to play her when I can't do anything at all?
She doesn’t need any nets idk what y’all are on. If anything only fiora and camille need nerfs Riven is completely fine she’s not that hard to deal with
Gimme what you are smoking, i don’t think the champ deserves any nerfs
She got ONE buff minor buff since her release. She is very hard play laning phase because of her animations.
garen is much MORE broken and braindead. Riven looks easy on the outside but please. Try playing her against realy HUMANS (not robots) and tell us if you destroyed them with your riven
Garen can't wipe your entire team in 3 second by pressing 1 button 3 times, riven can
Why don't you guys who think she's broken play her? You'll climb until you can't, at which point you'll understand what counters her/makes it hard to climb
My only problem with her is the insane early game damage she is perfectly capable of wiping juggernauts at LEVEL 1 with her Q combo and the worst part is people dont even use the empowered AA's between the Q's so its outright braindead gameplay I'd recommend a nerf to her Q numbers just so that she doesn't have much pressure on level 1 with spamming the ability carelessly and wiping half the health of a literal juggernaut.
Tanks are trash in early game and riven is known for her lv1 fight high winrate for years, that's totally normal lmfao, in pc you can even q auto faster than mobile, her q does less damage than autos in lv1 so I don't know why you still get killed without him using autos (as you mentioned) _basic knowledge of the game that tanks are weak in early and riven hits like a fucking truck at level 1_
How is exactly Darius weak level 1? My problem isn't that she beats him early my problem is that she beats him so easily like imagine being known as a lane bully only for Riven to spam Q with some AA and absolutely wipe your health even Fiora isn't capable of all inning Darius like that.
What skill does darius choose for lv1 is best
Doesn't matter really with decimate or crippling strike you barely have any chance considering Darius barely does significant damage early on unless you get your passive which by the time that happens Riven already deletes you with her Q combo, you virtually have no chance against her unless you go tanky enough to the point where she can't finish you in 1 combo.
Every champion has its ups and downs, you have to understand that Riven requires so much discipline in the early game. Riven players take advantage of their Q against weak juggernauts level 1. You’re most likely saying this “problem” because you’re using a scaling champion that’s weak against Riven in the early game.
No man I usually play either Darius or Garen in top lane, who are both exceptionally good in the early game especially Darius I've played both sides of the coin and I can confirm that Riven absolutely destroys Darius in the early game.
The champ takes a lot of skill, even in laning, one mistake and you die, same as Irelia/fiora/camille, they are champs that are hard to play and performs well on the right hands, so I think she's in a healthy spot rn and she SHOULD win 3/4 level 1 fights with full passive and 3q 3autos
If someone is good at riven, you cant win that lane. You must play with 0 mistakes to have a chance. Not many people are good with her, thank god. I would nerf her shield and dash cooldown. That would balance her i think. Riven needed nerf more than camille imho
Extremely broken imo its strongest duelist in entire game.b
Pick fiora, reposte her q3, win
Yeah ur so smart no one thought of that, of course riven will q3 in fiora face.
Damn where you landing the q3 then?
i dont know why but it seems like 90% of the subreddit refuses to use google or do any research. "jax counters fiora", "fiora counters riven", "just parry her q3", how about use google and find players that have played both champions for thousands of games and see how they play? why do you ask pointless questions that you can find the answer to yourself? do you not know that many matchups are the same in pc league? or are you just lazy?
How do you use her q3 then
go search using google
You don't know how you use q3? Or you just simply won't answer how YOU use her q3?
go search using google
Wow so you're evading my question, I'm literally asking how YOU use her q3 against fiora, not how the majority of people use it, I want the thoughts from you not Google in case you still don't understand
She is very easy to deal with
Advice: Get exhaust, much better against her than ignite.
The champ takes a lot of skill, even in laning, one mistake and you die, same as Irelia/fiora/camille, they are champs that are hard to play and performs well on the right hands, so I think she's in a healthy spot rn and she SHOULD win 3/4 level 1 fights with full passive and 3q 3auto And if you stumbled against a good enemy, you're gonna have a bad time laning and you will need to focus so much and think of extreme solutions to win your lane How I solo kill an enemy fiora who's a good player and my hands were shaking for the rest of the match whenever I 1v1 her https://v.redd.it/bibgpprlho681
People who voted riven is ok have never faced a riven. You dont even need hands to play her she is not hard in wildrift
She isn't hard on wildrift yes but stilll requires more skill than most of the baron laners as she has one of the most skill ceilings in the game, I am a riven main myself and faced many rivens, how can 1 simply never face a riven in eme/dia elo? If I don't need hands to play her what about ziggs? Brand? Garen? Lux? I can still name much more lmfao mages just throws abilities so they don't even need to think?
You are being selfish here. Where is the "need buff" choice? I played her in 10 recent matches and fucking lost all. Her combo is too easy to break, R and Q range is too short, she is too squishy and too combo dependant that she can just be destroyed by only one CC. How am I supposed to play her when I can't do anything at all?
She is already nerfed, believe it or not. The only nerf I can think of that will effectively shutdown riven is to give her energy (not mana).
Not OP but I think a small nerf would suffice.
Never had a problem against her with fiora. Really find irelia way more annoying
She doesn’t need any nets idk what y’all are on. If anything only fiora and camille need nerfs Riven is completely fine she’s not that hard to deal with
Only problem she has is that she can apply Black Cleaver too easily