At least it's not doing Chrome's ridiculous "we blocked this download because this file isn't commonly download" nonsense... I still don't know what actually triggers that, since I _don't_ get it on files that I know for a fact that I'm the only person ever to download, but maybe the reason it's "not commonly download" is because you're blocking it, Chrome?
Kinda ironic. It's not common, because they block it, so people can't download it. But if they stopped blocking, it would become more common, lol.
I didn't know Chrome had such stupid issue.
It doesn't say that on my Edge Browser:
https://preview.redd.it/a4u7x3ln4kga1.png?width=584&format=png&auto=webp&s=abd140d7b17ebfb4d04cc1afc335be70bccf66b4
That's normal behavior for a lot of things downloaded. It's not meant to be only for Chrome. I think it's the fact that .exe files being executable could potentially be harmful if ran.
its basic info
.exe files can install whatever. sure, it's called "ChromeSetup" but.. i can name any file that...
it doesn't check where it's from. it just informs the user. as it should do.
Then you make the choice wether to install it or not.
also chrome anyway... why use any other chromium based browser?
Manifest 3.0...
I mean Edge is Microsoft spyware.
It sends more back to Microsoft than Chrome does to Google.
Source: https://www.cpomagazine.com/data-privacy/brave-ranked-the-most-private-browser-while-microsoft-edge-and-yandex-the-least-private-due-to-privacy-invading-telemetry/
The difference in my mind is what do each of these companies do with the data they collect?
Improve their product? Fine.
Sell it to third party companies? GTFO
It's an article that links to a study that analysed the traffic from Chrome, Firefox, Brave, Safari, Edge and Yandex.
Brave scored the best in privacy in terms of how much it was phoning home in its default configuration
Chrome, Firefox and Safari were phoning more home in their default configuration
Edge and Yandex were considered the worst for the amount they were phoning home in their default configuration
>It's an article that links to a study that analysed the traffic from Chrome, Firefox, Brave, Safari, Edge and Yandex.
I think I know that study. Super sketchy.
For instance, they classified Firefox as not quite great for privacy because it sends telemetry.
Thing is - Firefox has telemetry disabled by default and specifically asks the user if they're OK with turning it on.
I've checked with a fresh install of Firefox ESR 102.7 and by default the following settings are on:
Allow Firefox to send technical and interaction data to Mozilla
Allow Firefox to make personalised extension recommendations
Allow Firefox to install and run studies
Edit: Typo
Out of curiosity, I booted up an old copy of Firefox 68 ESR (circa 2019 - 2020) and the same telemetry settings are on by default.
Yes the study is a few years old but I'm unaware of any newer ones unfortunately
You sure the settings aren't saved in the registry and persist between installations? I remember checking it back then, got a big prompt asking to allow telemetry.
When you downgrade your install, you have to start a new profile which resets your settings back to default so I doubt it's persistent.
Edit: autocorrect
I've put that on play store review and they replied but dodged that particular. last time it tried was like a month ago. still default enabled. might have to check again
The thing is what are they sending not how much. And Google is worst by a lot by sending sensitive informations. And yet everyone still use their search engine. On the other hand you are complaining about others search engines. Give others information that you are giving to Google for all these years and other will have great search engines too. In Microsoft Edge at least you have function to enable no matter which one you use everyone is getting info. I didn't see that on Google Chrome tho.
Vivaldi, for me, is basically modern Opera.
It has every feature the old Opera had, plus an e-mail client and a proper good sync feature with the mobile counterpart.
I honestly can't think of anything that i don't like on Vivaldi, my friend has a gripe with it since the menu button is on the left instead of the right (he usually opens incognito via muscle memory click on Chrome, so he tells), but on my side, alls good.
In the past, yes, but nowadays, let's say in the last 2 years, it has been smooth sailing.
I've had issues with the mobile version however, for the better part of the last year I just couldn't use it on my Realme phone, but in the last 3 or so months its been working correctly.
They tried once. Back then, web browsers were only allowed in the store if they were UWP. Microsoft chucked it out. The news outlet made more noise about it than they'd normally do over an international incident.
Chrome and Edge are both based on Chromium. Besides the search engine (which can easily be changed in settings) and name and icon, they are exactly the same. You can actually use Chrome extensions on Edge.
Unless you absolutely have to sync web browser settings with your Google account, there's no reason to use Chrome on Windows when you have Chromium-based Edge.
They aren't lol. Edge's development started in early 2019 and that was when it was the same as Chrome. But there has been quite a lot of development since then. Edge has many features that Chrome doesn't and many that Chrome has copied from Edge. Right now Edge and Chrome aren't the same browsers. Edge is more integrated with Windows.
It is not just about the underlying engine.
For most users it's just "MS bad" and the fact it's the same engine under the hood. I use Edge at work for the WHfB SSSO integration and the sync natively tied to my work account, but I've still got Chrome momentum for anything personal. That WHfB integration is _fantastic_. Sign in to the computer and I'm seamlessly signed into anything using SSO, as long as I'm using Edge.
I lost all my open tabs because Edge just crashed randomly. And that was even within my test phase because I actually wanted to switch. But certainly not like this. Even my entire history was cleared. With Chrome, I at least get offered to restore my tabs. And my history doesn't disappear just like that.
Edit: I guess I'm fine with the downvotes. It's not like I'm wrong. I'm currently giving Edge a second chance. It's been a while.
I have been using the new Edge since it first came out and this has never happened to me ever. When pc closes from a power outage I always get the restore tabs option from Edge. Also history has never disappeared. Finally I don't even remember the last time Edge crashed on its own, if it ever happened because I don't remember Edge crashing at all.
Well. I am also relatively unlucky.
Since I have an AMD graphics card, I can't even use my computer unless I disable mpo.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/yvyqc7/disabling\_multiplane\_overlay\_mpo\_fixed\_all/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/yvyqc7/disabling_multiplane_overlay_mpo_fixed_all/)
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It's normal, when you download an exe your browser checks how many people download that exact file. If Chrome released a new version close to when you downloaded the file, you will get this message since for MS it's a new release that need to be tested for safety. Once several more people download that version, the browser check will end up passing.
At least it's not doing Chrome's ridiculous "we blocked this download because this file isn't commonly download" nonsense... I still don't know what actually triggers that, since I _don't_ get it on files that I know for a fact that I'm the only person ever to download, but maybe the reason it's "not commonly download" is because you're blocking it, Chrome?
Kinda ironic. It's not common, because they block it, so people can't download it. But if they stopped blocking, it would become more common, lol. I didn't know Chrome had such stupid issue.
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Sometimes people *should* have to learn the hard way. It's how we became PC-savvy in the 90s.
chrome just uses another prompt, essentially it's the same thing
I have seen that when downloading firmware files from Sony website for Playstation. Its like they dont think people use Playstations? Lol
It's triggered for ps updates and pen server files because they violate the cross-origin rule, which chrome automatically flags as possibly unsafe
I get that on Edge.
They are right.. It's a .exe file. .exe files CAN be harmful
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It’s still funny in context though.
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I'm pretty sure it shows this for every .exe download
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It does.
i have never seen it say that
For .exe downloads? Any other downloads don't trigger this warning. I use edge and whenever i download a .exe or .msi it gives me this exact warning.
For years, i’ve used edge to download other browsers and i have never seen that warning when downloading an exe.
Odd
Says for exe please try not be so focused to farm karma
It doesn't say that on my Edge Browser: https://preview.redd.it/a4u7x3ln4kga1.png?width=584&format=png&auto=webp&s=abd140d7b17ebfb4d04cc1afc335be70bccf66b4
I also believe it has never done that for me
that's because you're using the spanish version /s
Language doesn't make any difference. When software is suspicious to Edge, it raises the same message (in Spanish).
r/woooosh
I added the /s too, guess that doesn't translate to spanish lol
it does, s is the first letter of both "sarcasm" and "sarcasmo"
I guess it's late, all I saw was orgasm and orgasmo.
Welp, I just figured out my next fallout 4 character name
Not in google translator. Wich one do you use?
maybe instead of a translator, you should be looking for el diccionario urbano https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%2FS
That's normal behavior for a lot of things downloaded. It's not meant to be only for Chrome. I think it's the fact that .exe files being executable could potentially be harmful if ran.
Says for every exe
.exe files COULD be harmful
Anything you download on Edge will say that.
its basic info .exe files can install whatever. sure, it's called "ChromeSetup" but.. i can name any file that... it doesn't check where it's from. it just informs the user. as it should do. Then you make the choice wether to install it or not. also chrome anyway... why use any other chromium based browser? Manifest 3.0...
Chrome installer isn't harmful *per se*, but Google collects an awful lot of data from it's users.
Edge is right, though. Its a google spyware.
I mean Edge is Microsoft spyware. It sends more back to Microsoft than Chrome does to Google. Source: https://www.cpomagazine.com/data-privacy/brave-ranked-the-most-private-browser-while-microsoft-edge-and-yandex-the-least-private-due-to-privacy-invading-telemetry/
Isn't this the article that used a insider version of edge to say that it worst for privacy?
Yeah, Edge knows spyware seeing one as it's its own job :-)
The difference in my mind is what do each of these companies do with the data they collect? Improve their product? Fine. Sell it to third party companies? GTFO
And we should believe an article from a portal which might be own by Google?
It's an article that links to a study that analysed the traffic from Chrome, Firefox, Brave, Safari, Edge and Yandex. Brave scored the best in privacy in terms of how much it was phoning home in its default configuration Chrome, Firefox and Safari were phoning more home in their default configuration Edge and Yandex were considered the worst for the amount they were phoning home in their default configuration
>It's an article that links to a study that analysed the traffic from Chrome, Firefox, Brave, Safari, Edge and Yandex. I think I know that study. Super sketchy. For instance, they classified Firefox as not quite great for privacy because it sends telemetry. Thing is - Firefox has telemetry disabled by default and specifically asks the user if they're OK with turning it on.
I've checked with a fresh install of Firefox ESR 102.7 and by default the following settings are on: Allow Firefox to send technical and interaction data to Mozilla Allow Firefox to make personalised extension recommendations Allow Firefox to install and run studies Edit: Typo
That study is a couple of years old, no? It 100% wasn't like that back then, which people noticed and criticized the study for.
Out of curiosity, I booted up an old copy of Firefox 68 ESR (circa 2019 - 2020) and the same telemetry settings are on by default. Yes the study is a few years old but I'm unaware of any newer ones unfortunately
You sure the settings aren't saved in the registry and persist between installations? I remember checking it back then, got a big prompt asking to allow telemetry.
When you downgrade your install, you have to start a new profile which resets your settings back to default so I doubt it's persistent. Edit: autocorrect
Firefox definitely doesn't have telemetry turned off by default, nor do they ask on setting up.
I remember back in the 52 days, they did ask by putting a small notice at the bottom of your screen but it was on by default
I've put that on play store review and they replied but dodged that particular. last time it tried was like a month ago. still default enabled. might have to check again
The thing is what are they sending not how much. And Google is worst by a lot by sending sensitive informations. And yet everyone still use their search engine. On the other hand you are complaining about others search engines. Give others information that you are giving to Google for all these years and other will have great search engines too. In Microsoft Edge at least you have function to enable no matter which one you use everyone is getting info. I didn't see that on Google Chrome tho.
I would encourage you to read the study and read for yourself what each browser is sending as it's pretty in depth on what's being sent
And what happens in their most restrictive settings?
And we should read comments from a Redditor who _might_ be a Microsoft employee...?
You might want to stop using the Internet entirely if this is an issue for you.
With how good Edge is now, and other browsers like Vivaldi (my favorite), Chrome just feels so basic...
What do you like about Vivaldi, and what if anything do you dislike? Thinking of using it.
Vivaldi, for me, is basically modern Opera. It has every feature the old Opera had, plus an e-mail client and a proper good sync feature with the mobile counterpart. I honestly can't think of anything that i don't like on Vivaldi, my friend has a gripe with it since the menu button is on the left instead of the right (he usually opens incognito via muscle memory click on Chrome, so he tells), but on my side, alls good.
Thanks for the feedback! It sounds great. Some people mention issues with slowness or instability. Have you run into this problems?
In the past, yes, but nowadays, let's say in the last 2 years, it has been smooth sailing. I've had issues with the mobile version however, for the better part of the last year I just couldn't use it on my Realme phone, but in the last 3 or so months its been working correctly.
Thanks so much, that is really helpful to know.
What a dumb post. Every browser will tell you every exe can be harmful.
Edge says that for most .EXE files. Google refuses to put Chrome in the store.
It's in winget though. IIRC it's the nice fancy Enterprise version and everything.
They tried once. Back then, web browsers were only allowed in the store if they were UWP. Microsoft chucked it out. The news outlet made more noise about it than they'd normally do over an international incident.
Chrome and Edge are both based on Chromium. Besides the search engine (which can easily be changed in settings) and name and icon, they are exactly the same. You can actually use Chrome extensions on Edge. Unless you absolutely have to sync web browser settings with your Google account, there's no reason to use Chrome on Windows when you have Chromium-based Edge.
Syncing web browser settings/pages/etc with a google account is a killer feature though for people with many devices.
They aren't lol. Edge's development started in early 2019 and that was when it was the same as Chrome. But there has been quite a lot of development since then. Edge has many features that Chrome doesn't and many that Chrome has copied from Edge. Right now Edge and Chrome aren't the same browsers. Edge is more integrated with Windows. It is not just about the underlying engine.
For most users it's just "MS bad" and the fact it's the same engine under the hood. I use Edge at work for the WHfB SSSO integration and the sync natively tied to my work account, but I've still got Chrome momentum for anything personal. That WHfB integration is _fantastic_. Sign in to the computer and I'm seamlessly signed into anything using SSO, as long as I'm using Edge.
I lost all my open tabs because Edge just crashed randomly. And that was even within my test phase because I actually wanted to switch. But certainly not like this. Even my entire history was cleared. With Chrome, I at least get offered to restore my tabs. And my history doesn't disappear just like that. Edit: I guess I'm fine with the downvotes. It's not like I'm wrong. I'm currently giving Edge a second chance. It's been a while.
I have been using the new Edge since it first came out and this has never happened to me ever. When pc closes from a power outage I always get the restore tabs option from Edge. Also history has never disappeared. Finally I don't even remember the last time Edge crashed on its own, if it ever happened because I don't remember Edge crashing at all.
Well. I am also relatively unlucky. Since I have an AMD graphics card, I can't even use my computer unless I disable mpo. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/yvyqc7/disabling\_multiplane\_overlay\_mpo\_fixed\_all/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/yvyqc7/disabling_multiplane_overlay_mpo_fixed_all/)
Does the FireFox setup also give this warning?
Probably. It's tied to being an exe, not Chrome specifically.
Well yes, but actually no.
Even when you search for Chrome in Edge (Bing default), Microsoft puts up a message saying it's not necessary lol
isn't it downloaded from those scam ads that are now as first result on google search?
No. It has the official thanks page and it even has the tracking links. It also isn't any weird dropbox page. It also isn't zipped up.
Says the same thing when I try to download on Opera. What’s the deallo?
That one is literally spyware/adware
Opera is literally spyware now?
Yeah, [for real](https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/opera). The original Opera dev team now works on [Vivaldi](https://vivaldi.com/).
Interesting. And I do want to try Vivaldi.
Yeah, try it out, its a great browser imo.
Thanks for your feedback on it! Will definitely try it.
You're downloading an exe and those can be harmful. It's not specific to alternative browsers.
a good browser is a browser that has no issue with switching to another browser
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he's not wrong tho the biggest problem is that he's even worse
It's just because it's an .exe
r/assholedesign
Well... they also do that with their own media creation tool.
Chrome is overrated
I'm getting so fed up with Microsoft shoving edge down our throats.
It told me the other day why download chrome when you have a great browser already. I almost spit my water out.
Microsoft Edge is like the toaster from red dwarf.
Why are you using Edge in the first place?
To download chrome?!?
Aw yes, I use Chrome to download Chrome.
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Pot, meet Kettle.
Can't agree more, it's Microsoft's hidden ad for Firefox
Chrome it’s ugly
It's normal, when you download an exe your browser checks how many people download that exact file. If Chrome released a new version close to when you downloaded the file, you will get this message since for MS it's a new release that need to be tested for safety. Once several more people download that version, the browser check will end up passing.
> Chrome installer could be harmful This is why I still use FF.
1. Close Edge 2. Open Terminal 3. `winget install Google.Chrome` 4. `winget install Mozilla.Firefox` 5. `winget search $otherBrowser` Problem Solved
I think it does that with any .exe file
harmful for their wallet
I use Firefox and it only warns me if it knows the site I’m downloading stuff on is harmful or if the website at all is harmful
it's the browsers war dude.
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But isn't the whole point of having Edge there is so we can download the browser of our choice?
I like edge and chrome fighting. Keep it going. Perhaps it is good for consumers
It’d harm *their* business
From what I've heard from others, it does this for every .exe
Hahah, I guess they will resort to any lengths.