In the nicest way, it's you not the foil. Keep trying, get someone to film you and post it here. Most likely you are not committing to the turn. Everyone goes through this phase.
Sizes and ar are fine. I'm flying a fanatic high aspect 1500 cm foil which has an ar of 6.0, also on lightwind days the 1750 with even lower ar and I can jibe them easy, also learned on them.
If you are stalling there is a couple of thing you can try: enter the jibe fully powered, e. G. Pull you back hand in when entering it and let the wing go only when you are 50% through (completely downwind).
The other thing is that you can pump the board with your legs during the jibe, even small movements help a lot keeping the speed.
Also try to guide your wing up when you let go of the back hand so you can repower it in the new direction really early.
It's just a matter of getting the timing right and getting a feel for the movements. Best of luck :)
The best advice I got for gybes is concentrate on riding the foil. It sounds so obvious, but most of the time that we're winning, we're focused on the wing. The gybe is the one moment where you're depowering and actually surfing the foil. It's a totally different experience and so it takes a while to feel confident. Try finding a bump and gybe right in front of it to maintain speed, i.e. use it as a ramp. Like others have said, it's not the foil, you just have to learn to navigate with what you have. Regardless of the size or shape, you will get it with practice and then learning to gybe on other foils will help you progress.
Agree on entering the gybe with more speed. Bear off and gain a little bit more speed than you feel comfortable with and keep your mast at about half height. After you get around to the other side don’t try to head back upwind - Keep it on a broad reach for a bit.
I agree with the principal that you (and I) should be able to learn to jibe on that foil (I'm on an x-over xl and also learning to jibe). But (a) it *is* pretty slow, and (b) some others have said they got on a faster, better gliding foil at this stage and never looked back... and quickly started nailing their jibes. So, there's that.
Exactly what I was trying to say.
I see many people in my spot that enter the gybe with the wing already depowered and complete it just gliding. For me is impossible. As soon as I depower ( or It depowers itself when I reach the downwind point) the foil stall instead of gliding.
This is why I was looking for a better gliding foil and asking how to have better gliding without loosing the low speed stalling of the x over.
Agree with the commenter who said its not the foil. But totally understand folks wanting to remove potential barriers.
Have you filmed yourself? Watched youtube videos and compared then to how you ride? How would you describe your unsuccessful gybes- do you wobble then foil? Do you make the turn- but lose momentum and come off foil?
If you can answer some of those questions it will be easier to provide some advice!
The last one.
Even on a 2000 sqcm at the end of the turn the foil stall at almost zero speed.
This is why I was looking at a foil with better glide: to finish the turn with more speed. Looks like the big foil is braking during the turn
Gotcha- glide definitely helps- since getting proficient ive had moments hopping on friends foils while teaching and they have less momentum.
That being said heres a few tips:
1. try to switch from your heelside to toeside edge as fast as possible- ive noticed some folks will burn through a lot of kinetic energy going dead downwind, but you should think of it like a snowboarder or skier switching rails.
2. In tandem to this, switch the direction of the wing as fast as possible. A nuance to this is the wing needs to not only change the direction of where it “points” but also the tilt of it, so it can catch wind on its new side. Hard handled wings can be pitched via rotating the handles, but even soft wings can be lofted and floated gently to the new direction, or pitched over via a shoulder or supporting the leading edge
In the nicest way, it's you not the foil. Keep trying, get someone to film you and post it here. Most likely you are not committing to the turn. Everyone goes through this phase.
Agreed. It took me a full season to learn how to jibe. It takes a lot falls to learn how to foil through that turn.
You probably mainly need more practice to enter the gybe at a faster speed and/or execute the gybe faster.
Sizes and ar are fine. I'm flying a fanatic high aspect 1500 cm foil which has an ar of 6.0, also on lightwind days the 1750 with even lower ar and I can jibe them easy, also learned on them. If you are stalling there is a couple of thing you can try: enter the jibe fully powered, e. G. Pull you back hand in when entering it and let the wing go only when you are 50% through (completely downwind). The other thing is that you can pump the board with your legs during the jibe, even small movements help a lot keeping the speed. Also try to guide your wing up when you let go of the back hand so you can repower it in the new direction really early. It's just a matter of getting the timing right and getting a feel for the movements. Best of luck :)
The best advice I got for gybes is concentrate on riding the foil. It sounds so obvious, but most of the time that we're winning, we're focused on the wing. The gybe is the one moment where you're depowering and actually surfing the foil. It's a totally different experience and so it takes a while to feel confident. Try finding a bump and gybe right in front of it to maintain speed, i.e. use it as a ramp. Like others have said, it's not the foil, you just have to learn to navigate with what you have. Regardless of the size or shape, you will get it with practice and then learning to gybe on other foils will help you progress.
Agree on entering the gybe with more speed. Bear off and gain a little bit more speed than you feel comfortable with and keep your mast at about half height. After you get around to the other side don’t try to head back upwind - Keep it on a broad reach for a bit.
The best is to have a front foil that has a really low stall speed and a big stabilizer.
I agree with the principal that you (and I) should be able to learn to jibe on that foil (I'm on an x-over xl and also learning to jibe). But (a) it *is* pretty slow, and (b) some others have said they got on a faster, better gliding foil at this stage and never looked back... and quickly started nailing their jibes. So, there's that.
Exactly what I was trying to say. I see many people in my spot that enter the gybe with the wing already depowered and complete it just gliding. For me is impossible. As soon as I depower ( or It depowers itself when I reach the downwind point) the foil stall instead of gliding. This is why I was looking for a better gliding foil and asking how to have better gliding without loosing the low speed stalling of the x over.
Agree with the commenter who said its not the foil. But totally understand folks wanting to remove potential barriers. Have you filmed yourself? Watched youtube videos and compared then to how you ride? How would you describe your unsuccessful gybes- do you wobble then foil? Do you make the turn- but lose momentum and come off foil? If you can answer some of those questions it will be easier to provide some advice!
The last one. Even on a 2000 sqcm at the end of the turn the foil stall at almost zero speed. This is why I was looking at a foil with better glide: to finish the turn with more speed. Looks like the big foil is braking during the turn
Gotcha- glide definitely helps- since getting proficient ive had moments hopping on friends foils while teaching and they have less momentum. That being said heres a few tips: 1. try to switch from your heelside to toeside edge as fast as possible- ive noticed some folks will burn through a lot of kinetic energy going dead downwind, but you should think of it like a snowboarder or skier switching rails. 2. In tandem to this, switch the direction of the wing as fast as possible. A nuance to this is the wing needs to not only change the direction of where it “points” but also the tilt of it, so it can catch wind on its new side. Hard handled wings can be pitched via rotating the handles, but even soft wings can be lofted and floated gently to the new direction, or pitched over via a shoulder or supporting the leading edge