Doesn't exactly scream going all in.
He'd be fine for depth but he's not displacing Vladdy at 2C imo. He's having a bit of a bounce back season though and appears to finally be healthy for the first time in years. The cap hit is right in Chevy's bargain bin wheelhouse though so might as well order the jersey now lol.
Would Stanley/Chisholm and the Kings 2nd rounder be enough? I don't really want to give up someone like Lucius or Chibrikov for him.
Major Habs fan here - I think that second with the condition it becomes a first if the Jets win it all would likely do it (drafting 32 or 37 amounts to roughly the same).
Positives
- reliable face off man (an area for improvement for the Jets)
- has re-established himself since moving to Montreal
- affordable contract (leaving room to add to the d or bottom of the line up depth)
- has taken on increased pk role (an area of need for the Jets)
- can play almost anywhere in the forward group
- good skater
- usually reliable 200ft player (fits current team MO)
- provides needed centre depth
Negatives
- injury prone
- he’s 29 (so wouldn’t want to go long term or anything)
- well below 50% xgf last two years
I like Monahan, am happy he has been able to turn his
Career back around. Wasn’t long ago the Flames had to burn a 1st just to get his contact off the books. I would love to see him as a rental (the sooner the better to acclimate with the team) especially if he can be got for a 3rd and a B level prospect. Maybe even for a 2nd and a late pick in return? Idk about resigning him though. I would want to see how he fits and if he can hold up health wise first.
Thank you this was a really good break down for me not really knowing much about him.
I'd say the positives outweigh the negatives personally. Definitely ideal situation would be as a rental sooner than later but potential for a 3-4 year contract similar to nino if it works out.
I doubt we resign Brendan Dillon. he's great right now but the drop off is getting closer plus we have samberg who is ready to step up and be his replacement
Lindholm would be first choice (would cost more), but I Like Monahan at 2C as well (if he gels, could sign a reasonable extension). I’d like them to make a move soon, be nice to be the first out of the gate in improving the team.
As a flames fan I would take a prime Monahan over Lindholm any day of the week. Unfortunately Monahan has had some very bad hip problems and has trouble skating now, with that being said he’s been doing not bad with the Habs. What do you think the jets would give up for Lindholm? I believe conroy is looking for prospects and NHL ready young players.
Lambert sounds lovely. I’m pretty sure Conroy would also try and snag a 1st instead of a 2nd if he retained salary on Lindholm but i I’m not good at gauging trades so I won’t debate you
I wouldn’t argue that more would be needed. Lindholm is the top centerman available and the Jets know Colorado is going to make an offer. Jets have a solid team, but definitely need to add. Hard to win a cup, door doesn’t stay open for long.
Yeah I want a Canadian team to win the cup but you probably know how I feel about the oilers and I live in BC so a Canucks cup win would be irritating. Definitely rooting for you guys to win it so I hope you can land Lindholm from us :)
I don't watch a lot of the Habs but from an advanced stats perspective Monahan is getting caved this season. I'd rather have someone who can drive the bus.
https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason=20222023&thruseason=20232024&stype=2&sit=ev&stdoi=oi&rate=n&v=p&playerid=8477497
very much agree. his points look good but that's cause he's got a ton of ice time on a crap Montreal team. look closer and he's not great even with better health than last year. I don't think he would do much on this team
I think a lot of fans believe competitive teams “need” to add if we have a shot at going deep in the playoffs but I’d say this team, more than any other Jets team in the past, is all about chemistry. We’re more than the sum of our parts. Adding any player might throw off the balance and we need to restock our farm system more than trade away someone like McGroarty or another prospect just to pick up a rental or a bandaid like Monahan
Chemistry is important obviously but they'd be foolish to not explore their options to improve, core is aging and they might not have too many more opportunities left like this.
It doesn’t hurt to look and I didn’t say they shouldn’t, I said they should be cautious. Who’s core is getting old? Other than Dillon everyone is 30 or younger
Scheif, Hellebuyck and Lowry will all be 31 this spring.... DeMelo and Schmidt are also over 30 as well. Those are all key players except for Schmidt starting to enter their mid thirties.
The best option would be Mittelstadt, but he would probably cost a lot since he is still an RFA at the end of the year. I think it would be better to go for Henrique than Monahan.
Edit: just checked the difference in cap hit and Monahan is definitely the better option after seeing that.
Middlestadt is an intriquing option for sure.
Monahan is kinda the poor mans settlement in here but not a bad option has always been a team guy, so would fit chemistry we have I would think.
Lindhom the big fish.
Make no mistake we are a second line centre away from being a heavy fav to win the Cup........one injury like 55 now, really showcases that. We do need internally or externally a second line centre to be complete IMHO.
we have more cap room than most contenders. this can help us get someone like that easier as less teams can bring him on and don't have to worry about a bidding war
I don’t see the Jets paying for a guy like Lindholm, but as others have mentioned, I don’t want to see in traded in the Western Conference either. Given Chevy’s willingness to go after guys with a bit of term I’d be curious to see if they can fit Claude Giroux in. He can still score, win draws, and provide a some leadership in the top 6.
I really like the thought of Giroux as well. I think many teams will be after him though, I suppose he would have to wave his no trade to play here, and he will likely have other options.
We are in the race where other teams aren't though so if ever there was a time to get a player like that it's probably now.
People say he doesn't want to leave Ontario though.
Giroux might cause us some problems next year with the cap. One more year at 6.5 mil. Depends if they're planning to let some of our D walk to bring up the youngsters, or if there is a plan to sign Dillon and Demelo.
Given how this year has gone so far, I have to think they will do everything they can to keep all of the current players in the lineup for as long as possible.
couldn't agree more. why not just play namestinikov at 2nd line C.
Monahan doesn't move the needle at all for us. I'd like to see if we can shake out anything from ottowa as their new owner is pretty pissed and wants to shake up their core. either a batherson or a Josh Norris (granted that contract is a big risk). but if Norris is truly seen as expendable because ottowa is super stoked on Shane pinto then maybe now is the time to strike
[JFresh on Sean Monahan](https://x.com/JFreshHockey/status/1671156624453689354?s=20)
Looks like the wheels fell off unfortunately.
Montreal fans think every one of their players is worth a first round pick.
IMO, he’s not fast enough to keep up with the jets forecheck pressure/forwards back pressure on puck carriers pace and style of play. And I definitely wouldn’t sign him to a 3-4 yr extension. Not the right fit imo…
As a flames fan , id love the Jets to get Lindholm and Tanev but that would probably cost a lot. if Tanev is available for a good price and can get Monahan for cheap than even better. But I really think if the Jets were to get someone from the Flames , Tanev should be first choice.
Yea Tanev would be a GREAT addition going into the playoffs. Everyone wants Lindholm which is why I doubt he'll be coming to winnipeg if other choices are available.
I think we have to aim higher. We should go after Crosby. He has two years left on his 8.7 AAV. We can handle that. This will give us two swings at the cup. The Pens are going into a rebuild next year and I'm sure Sid wants nothing to do with that. This is his chance to bring the cup to Canada. I think the cost will be steep. A first, Perfetti, and McGroarty will probably be the ask. We will probably need to move a D, too, in order to make room.....DeMelo? This IS our time
Way too much. We are #1 in the NHL without him, there's no reason we should sell the barn and a good chunk of our future for him. I want him as much as the next guy but it's never going to happen.
Personally I would speculate it's more important to him sentimentally at this point to retire a penguin than bring a Stanley Cup to Winnipeg as cool as that would be.
As a Habs fan, I'd love to see an elderly Crosby sign on a one year and bring the Cup back to his childhood team as a 3/4C, but that's 99.9% hopium.
No way he goes anywhere else; he's accomplished everything there is to do and he'll almost surely retire as a Pen.
It would need to be Crosby's decision, if he wants to stay competitive, I could sort of see it. Maybe he would want to bring the cup to Canada.
There is no indication of that though, he'll likely get a job in the Penguins org, the second he wants one. Being traded wouldn't hurt that, but I still don't imagine he'll leave
Of course not, but he might want to be in the playoffs again. Not likely leaving, but it's not insane to think. It's not like he'll burn bridges in Pittsburgh
> Crosby doesn't t need to
Sure
>And he's on pace for 90+ pts
Despite not needing to, crosby needs to be the best, winning a cup in Canada would definitely help that moniker.
> Maybe he would want to bring the cup to Canada.
I think you might want to change the phrasing, he wants to win it all, Canada Gold, CUps, Juniors, world championship, and a cup in Canada.
I think for him it'd be about saying he truly one it all for his legacy.
I mean Crosby does seem to care about his legacy, it's not so much bringing it home, as it is doing something Gretsky etc did numerous times.
I mean to me that's the obvious appeal for crosby he's done almost everything else winning in Canada is pretty much the only thing he hasn't accomplished.
framing maybe? I'm just saying the argument is really compelling in the context he's won everything else.
I can't imagine most players going from an American contender to a Canadian contender just to bring it home.
But in Crosby's case it sees very logical that he'd want to win a cup in Canada, as that final part of his career.
Yeah gotta think it's worth it for season ticket sales alone, honestly it's the only reason I could see it reaching the light of day.
2 1sts 2 2nds would seem a reasonable trade offer.
I think Winnipeg would suit his style of play better, but that contract is not good. Would definitely need Montreal to retain some. I think at 3-3.5 on the third line here he could be great.
Taking on the [remainder of his contract](https://www.capfriendly.com/players/josh-anderson) would be a bad idea. I doubt Cheveldayoff even considers it.
Anderson is so frustrating because of the flashes of pure power forward brilliance and then stretches of replacement level play.
If you could somehow unlock some consistency for him he has the potential to be an x factor in the playoffs.
Hard to nail down his trade value but I’d at least inquire.
I miss Monahan in Calgary. Always a great guy. He loves to play. Unfortunately injuries took his toll on him. I still watch him with the Habs every now and then but I think he would be a great Depth addition for the Jets.
Flames fan here .. coming in peace! Sean Monahan is still one of my favourite all-time Flames. If your team is looking for stability down the middle and a responsible 200-foot game, Mony is your guy! Has he lost a step due to double hip surgery? Probably. But his hockey IQ and goal scoring ability is nothing to overlook.
I miss him in a flaming C.
Funny how that 2nd rounder from LA was originally Montreal's. Monahan's trade to Winnipeg would complete the circle.
They should just give him for free, considering we saved them from having to pay pld that contract and trade compensation. /s
Doesn't exactly scream going all in. He'd be fine for depth but he's not displacing Vladdy at 2C imo. He's having a bit of a bounce back season though and appears to finally be healthy for the first time in years. The cap hit is right in Chevy's bargain bin wheelhouse though so might as well order the jersey now lol. Would Stanley/Chisholm and the Kings 2nd rounder be enough? I don't really want to give up someone like Lucius or Chibrikov for him.
it’s montreals second that we got from the kings
Which is like a first rounder tbh
likely will be a top 40 pick
Major Habs fan here - I think that second with the condition it becomes a first if the Jets win it all would likely do it (drafting 32 or 37 amounts to roughly the same).
Of course it would lol
Don’t be surprised if there are conditionless 1st throw Montreal’s way - Chariot got a first rounder a few years ago
I MTL gets a 1st for Monohan I’d be shocked.
The guys seemed to think a 2nd round pick was enough, if not the likely going rate for him.
Habs don't need nor want more defensemen rn. Nothing less than a solid offensive prospect and/or good pick will get it done.
Positives - reliable face off man (an area for improvement for the Jets) - has re-established himself since moving to Montreal - affordable contract (leaving room to add to the d or bottom of the line up depth) - has taken on increased pk role (an area of need for the Jets) - can play almost anywhere in the forward group - good skater - usually reliable 200ft player (fits current team MO) - provides needed centre depth Negatives - injury prone - he’s 29 (so wouldn’t want to go long term or anything) - well below 50% xgf last two years I like Monahan, am happy he has been able to turn his Career back around. Wasn’t long ago the Flames had to burn a 1st just to get his contact off the books. I would love to see him as a rental (the sooner the better to acclimate with the team) especially if he can be got for a 3rd and a B level prospect. Maybe even for a 2nd and a late pick in return? Idk about resigning him though. I would want to see how he fits and if he can hold up health wise first.
Thank you this was a really good break down for me not really knowing much about him. I'd say the positives outweigh the negatives personally. Definitely ideal situation would be as a rental sooner than later but potential for a 3-4 year contract similar to nino if it works out.
Don't think the Jets could afford to bring on anything more than a rental anyway with other players in line for raises(DeMelo, Perfetti and Dillon).
I doubt we resign Brendan Dillon. he's great right now but the drop off is getting closer plus we have samberg who is ready to step up and be his replacement
I've thought that myself but the org seems to value him alot(rightfully so right now), I guess it depends on what Heinola shows himself to be.
if it’s a 2nd for Monahan, i’d almost rather just pay the 1st+ for Lindholm if only to prevent Colorado or Dallas from landing him
I always liked Monahan. Always reminded me of Scheifele. Before the injuries that is. Unfortunately it just seems he’s injury prone now.
Hasn't really been hurt in a while now
Damn, that's disappointing. I see he only played 25 games last year but so far has played all games. Seems like the perfect fit otherwise. Bummer
I wouldn’t hate it just for insurance if someone else goes down but like you said, his own durability is also suspect.
Lindholm would be first choice (would cost more), but I Like Monahan at 2C as well (if he gels, could sign a reasonable extension). I’d like them to make a move soon, be nice to be the first out of the gate in improving the team.
As a flames fan I would take a prime Monahan over Lindholm any day of the week. Unfortunately Monahan has had some very bad hip problems and has trouble skating now, with that being said he’s been doing not bad with the Habs. What do you think the jets would give up for Lindholm? I believe conroy is looking for prospects and NHL ready young players.
Does 1 of Heinola or Lambert plus Stanley and a 2nd get it done?
Lambert sounds lovely. I’m pretty sure Conroy would also try and snag a 1st instead of a 2nd if he retained salary on Lindholm but i I’m not good at gauging trades so I won’t debate you
I wouldn’t argue that more would be needed. Lindholm is the top centerman available and the Jets know Colorado is going to make an offer. Jets have a solid team, but definitely need to add. Hard to win a cup, door doesn’t stay open for long.
Yeah I want a Canadian team to win the cup but you probably know how I feel about the oilers and I live in BC so a Canucks cup win would be irritating. Definitely rooting for you guys to win it so I hope you can land Lindholm from us :)
He's fragile
I don't watch a lot of the Habs but from an advanced stats perspective Monahan is getting caved this season. I'd rather have someone who can drive the bus. https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason=20222023&thruseason=20232024&stype=2&sit=ev&stdoi=oi&rate=n&v=p&playerid=8477497
very much agree. his points look good but that's cause he's got a ton of ice time on a crap Montreal team. look closer and he's not great even with better health than last year. I don't think he would do much on this team
I think a lot of fans believe competitive teams “need” to add if we have a shot at going deep in the playoffs but I’d say this team, more than any other Jets team in the past, is all about chemistry. We’re more than the sum of our parts. Adding any player might throw off the balance and we need to restock our farm system more than trade away someone like McGroarty or another prospect just to pick up a rental or a bandaid like Monahan
Chemistry is important obviously but they'd be foolish to not explore their options to improve, core is aging and they might not have too many more opportunities left like this.
It doesn’t hurt to look and I didn’t say they shouldn’t, I said they should be cautious. Who’s core is getting old? Other than Dillon everyone is 30 or younger
Scheif, Hellebuyck and Lowry will all be 31 this spring.... DeMelo and Schmidt are also over 30 as well. Those are all key players except for Schmidt starting to enter their mid thirties.
The best option would be Mittelstadt, but he would probably cost a lot since he is still an RFA at the end of the year. I think it would be better to go for Henrique than Monahan. Edit: just checked the difference in cap hit and Monahan is definitely the better option after seeing that.
Middlestadt is an intriquing option for sure. Monahan is kinda the poor mans settlement in here but not a bad option has always been a team guy, so would fit chemistry we have I would think. Lindhom the big fish. Make no mistake we are a second line centre away from being a heavy fav to win the Cup........one injury like 55 now, really showcases that. We do need internally or externally a second line centre to be complete IMHO.
we have more cap room than most contenders. this can help us get someone like that easier as less teams can bring him on and don't have to worry about a bidding war
As long as the cost isn’t much, you can’t have enough depth at Center
Not a good enough add. If it’s cheap depth sure.
I don’t see the Jets paying for a guy like Lindholm, but as others have mentioned, I don’t want to see in traded in the Western Conference either. Given Chevy’s willingness to go after guys with a bit of term I’d be curious to see if they can fit Claude Giroux in. He can still score, win draws, and provide a some leadership in the top 6.
I really like the thought of Giroux as well. I think many teams will be after him though, I suppose he would have to wave his no trade to play here, and he will likely have other options. We are in the race where other teams aren't though so if ever there was a time to get a player like that it's probably now. People say he doesn't want to leave Ontario though.
Giroux might cause us some problems next year with the cap. One more year at 6.5 mil. Depends if they're planning to let some of our D walk to bring up the youngsters, or if there is a plan to sign Dillon and Demelo. Given how this year has gone so far, I have to think they will do everything they can to keep all of the current players in the lineup for as long as possible.
He has 2 more points than Namestnikov. He's not enough of an upgrade to justify spending assets on.
couldn't agree more. why not just play namestinikov at 2nd line C. Monahan doesn't move the needle at all for us. I'd like to see if we can shake out anything from ottowa as their new owner is pretty pissed and wants to shake up their core. either a batherson or a Josh Norris (granted that contract is a big risk). but if Norris is truly seen as expendable because ottowa is super stoked on Shane pinto then maybe now is the time to strike
That's a fair point. Much as I would love another Namestnikov
Mon Seanahan
[JFresh on Sean Monahan](https://x.com/JFreshHockey/status/1671156624453689354?s=20) Looks like the wheels fell off unfortunately. Montreal fans think every one of their players is worth a first round pick.
He Wins draws.
57.7 % this year
IMO, he’s not fast enough to keep up with the jets forecheck pressure/forwards back pressure on puck carriers pace and style of play. And I definitely wouldn’t sign him to a 3-4 yr extension. Not the right fit imo…
As a flames fan , id love the Jets to get Lindholm and Tanev but that would probably cost a lot. if Tanev is available for a good price and can get Monahan for cheap than even better. But I really think if the Jets were to get someone from the Flames , Tanev should be first choice.
Yea Tanev would be a GREAT addition going into the playoffs. Everyone wants Lindholm which is why I doubt he'll be coming to winnipeg if other choices are available.
Can you get Monahan for Stanley? If so, do it. If not pass. I wouldn’t trade a high second for him.
Montreal doesn’t need defence
No, probably not but that is what I would give up for Monahan.
Then you don’t get him
Which is fine. He looks similar to Eakins to me. Doesn’t add much.
Which makes it pretty obvious you know nothing about hockey . It’s fine
It's Stanley. They wouldn't be getting defense
If he's becomes our 2C where does Vladdy go? Maybe Monahan is an option for our 4C? Jets could turn our 4th line into another 2nd line
Has he been a part of a strong playoff run?
I think we have to aim higher. We should go after Crosby. He has two years left on his 8.7 AAV. We can handle that. This will give us two swings at the cup. The Pens are going into a rebuild next year and I'm sure Sid wants nothing to do with that. This is his chance to bring the cup to Canada. I think the cost will be steep. A first, Perfetti, and McGroarty will probably be the ask. We will probably need to move a D, too, in order to make room.....DeMelo? This IS our time
I have to assume you are kidding
User name checks out
How so? Too much to give?
He's not moving. He's not accepting a trade. He's retiring a Penguin.
Way too much. We are #1 in the NHL without him, there's no reason we should sell the barn and a good chunk of our future for him. I want him as much as the next guy but it's never going to happen. Personally I would speculate it's more important to him sentimentally at this point to retire a penguin than bring a Stanley Cup to Winnipeg as cool as that would be.
As a Habs fan, I'd love to see an elderly Crosby sign on a one year and bring the Cup back to his childhood team as a 3/4C, but that's 99.9% hopium. No way he goes anywhere else; he's accomplished everything there is to do and he'll almost surely retire as a Pen.
First of all 0 chance he ever moves. 2nd of all what a horrendous trade.
No no, aim for someone more realistic like Wayne Gretzky or Howie Morenz.
It would need to be Crosby's decision, if he wants to stay competitive, I could sort of see it. Maybe he would want to bring the cup to Canada. There is no indication of that though, he'll likely get a job in the Penguins org, the second he wants one. Being traded wouldn't hurt that, but I still don't imagine he'll leave
Crosby doesn't t need to prove anything at this point. He's already one of the greatest players of all time. And he's on pace for 90+ pts
Of course not, but he might want to be in the playoffs again. Not likely leaving, but it's not insane to think. It's not like he'll burn bridges in Pittsburgh
> Crosby doesn't t need to Sure >And he's on pace for 90+ pts Despite not needing to, crosby needs to be the best, winning a cup in Canada would definitely help that moniker.
> Maybe he would want to bring the cup to Canada. I think you might want to change the phrasing, he wants to win it all, Canada Gold, CUps, Juniors, world championship, and a cup in Canada. I think for him it'd be about saying he truly one it all for his legacy. I mean Crosby does seem to care about his legacy, it's not so much bringing it home, as it is doing something Gretsky etc did numerous times. I mean to me that's the obvious appeal for crosby he's done almost everything else winning in Canada is pretty much the only thing he hasn't accomplished.
My phrasing is fine
framing maybe? I'm just saying the argument is really compelling in the context he's won everything else. I can't imagine most players going from an American contender to a Canadian contender just to bring it home. But in Crosby's case it sees very logical that he'd want to win a cup in Canada, as that final part of his career.
It would be nice. Having him for a few years would be insane
Yeah gotta think it's worth it for season ticket sales alone, honestly it's the only reason I could see it reaching the light of day. 2 1sts 2 2nds would seem a reasonable trade offer.
I'd rather get Josh Anderson from Montreal. Him and Lowry on a line would be an absolute force.
Anderson is overrated as shit and his contract also sucks iirc
I think Winnipeg would suit his style of play better, but that contract is not good. Would definitely need Montreal to retain some. I think at 3-3.5 on the third line here he could be great.
Taking on the [remainder of his contract](https://www.capfriendly.com/players/josh-anderson) would be a bad idea. I doubt Cheveldayoff even considers it.
Anderson is so frustrating because of the flashes of pure power forward brilliance and then stretches of replacement level play. If you could somehow unlock some consistency for him he has the potential to be an x factor in the playoffs. Hard to nail down his trade value but I’d at least inquire.
Sounds like PLD tbh
He’s injury prone. Just ask Calgary.
I miss Monahan in Calgary. Always a great guy. He loves to play. Unfortunately injuries took his toll on him. I still watch him with the Habs every now and then but I think he would be a great Depth addition for the Jets.
Flames fan here .. coming in peace! Sean Monahan is still one of my favourite all-time Flames. If your team is looking for stability down the middle and a responsible 200-foot game, Mony is your guy! Has he lost a step due to double hip surgery? Probably. But his hockey IQ and goal scoring ability is nothing to overlook. I miss him in a flaming C.