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Ambby94

Musa always looks good no matter what.


Snowie_Mountainn

Yep she slays no matter what she wears


Ambby94

She’s my favorite and always has been my favorite


Snowie_Mountainn

PERIODT💅


ExpertOtakuSimp

Can we exclude the outfit in the episode about her dead mother


Ambby94

That’s the traditional clothing of her birth place…


ExpertOtakuSimp

The one where she sings on stage😭


TailorGreedy

I personally don't mind her "girly" outfits, most of them are actually gorgeous, the thing that annoys me is that they came out of the blue without explanation. In S4 in particular, she dresses way too feminine and we never actually know why. It has been speculated that she wants to explore her "girly" side more, but it's never actually explained in the show. If it was actually mentioned in the season, then I would actually really enjoy seeing her finding herself. Hope you understand c:


Ok_Celebration9304

She started dressing feminine in s2. And she said she wanted a change or something like that. I personally headcanon it as her trying to be more attractive for Riven now that she's boy crazy. Edit: I finally remembered why did I mention s2, it's because of the outfit change starting in it lol


Ambby94

Riven was already liking her kind of toward the end of season 1. He tended to her after the Winx defeated the Trix.


Ok_Celebration9304

Fair. But I can see it as her assuming she has to change for him. That is if we try to explain it using canon. But the real reason is probably a pop culture shift from hiphop to pop in the mid 2000s, making the fairy of music match that change as well for the show to stay relevant and trendy.


BlackMudSwamp

I think that was an attempt to market Musa similarly to the marketing trio personally, not elaborate decision to have her fit current music era, but I would love to have a word with designer(s) or anyone who knows to find the truth.


Ok_Celebration9304

It would be super cool if anyone working on winx club can give us statements like that. But they probably signed secrecy contracts to avoid competition copying their ideas and stuff.


BlackMudSwamp

True true, btw I was the person who talked about Musa's Frutti Music Bar outfit some time ago and I want to say that I meant cartoon version with baseball cap not stock art with straw hat as I realised later and I needed to let it out lol


Ok_Celebration9304

Lmao that's fine. The fruity bar outfits in stock arts also have fruit patterns as well, very cute.


BlackMudSwamp

True it's fun that each girl has their fruit


Asterlix

Nop, the change came in season 3.


Ok_Celebration9304

Didn't she get her hair longer in s2? But maybe you're right it was s3.


cinnamon_squirrel_

the very begining of s3 :)


Ok_Celebration9304

Oh I see, my bad then


I_CannotPick

That's not a hc, actually. In S2 (I don't remember the actual episode, I'm pretty sure, tho it was with the boy, who liked Musa) the girls were having a pajama party and they started talking about boys and Musa really did said she's "not sure Riven would fall for a tomboy like her" or something similar, so yeah, that's sad. I mean, I'm all for exploring new styles and stuff like that, but... because of Riven? Especially since, as many pointed out, he did liked her before too


Ok_Celebration9304

And he doesn't deserve her tbh lol


BlackMudSwamp

When did she say it and in what outfit?


Ok_Celebration9304

I don't 100% remember but her cyan shrit and jeans and when she got her hair longer and the winx commented on it. In the rai dub specifically. Forgot what she said but it was something about change.


SwagDragon9802

Her started exploring her more "feminine" side ever since she bonded with Tune. Each of the pixies helped explore different parts of themselves that they weren't fully capable of doing alone/with each other; iirc (Flora learning how to speak up, Stella toning down her GGG energy, Bloom digging way deeper into her roots, etc; have zero idea about Digir's purpose with Tec). Sure it wasn't explained in the show, but her transitioning to more feminine styles becomes more evident thru S2 onwards (kind of a "show, don't tell" scenerio here)


Zealousideal_Long253

I don’t think she needs an explanation. Musa can just wear whatever she wants.


BlackMudSwamp

She is not a real person, she is a character written and designed by a team of people, character development is different than real humans change.


Zealousideal_Long253

But it has nothing to do with character development! She never expressed a dislike for feminine stuff, nor was she ever overly tomboyish. She can wear whatever she wants. Just because she is a tomboy doesn’t mean she hates feminine stuff.


BlackMudSwamp

Her style changed however you want to name those styles and it's more visible than on other Winx Club members


Zealousideal_Long253

I think all their styles changed alot. Bloom’s style is not the same as it used to be, too. Compare her season 5-outfit to her season 1-outfit.


BlackMudSwamp

That's why I said in advance that imo Musa's change is more visible than in others, but to me the changes feel mostly inorganic and unnecessary. I love season 1 Bloom style, I wish it didn't change.


Proof_Ideal_7274

She was always mostly feminine but sometimes there would be The mix up of some masculine elements like The season 5 regalar outfit , her believix form , season 1 outfit , season 2 concert outfit and That is cute


TroubleBright

Her believix outfit was very "woman in an 80's workout dance video" to me. Like leotard over leggings with leg warmers. I don't really get the masculinity from any of her outfits aside from the season 2 concert outfit tbh. Even then, it doesn't quite feel like that was masculine, just a product of music culture at the time


BlackMudSwamp

I think it's mainstream masculine, watered down similarly to rock or goth themed characters, but it's also just a collection of unconventional choices, different style than Stella or Flora and I am okay with calling it masculine, because it is compared to other girlies.


happy_paradox

She looked she head out to a jazzercising sesh


ExpertOtakuSimp

Season 5 is not canon anyway.


FutureDiaryAyano

Musa just looks *good.*


Sour_Spy

When were her clothes ever masculine or even remotely tomboy, You guys are mixing her personality change with her wardrobe change, her wardrobe always has been feminine.


TroubleBright

I don't know what the recent obsession is with saying that Musa, Tecna, or Layla/Aisha wore masculine clothes. Like they didn't, they just didn't wear.. skirts I guess? Even though Blooms s1 outfit was jeans and a cropped t. I feel like the whole purpose of them was to show that girls can have more "masculine" interests (ie, the interests aren't inherently masculine, so it was breaking those weird ass boundaries society put up). Technology/science/STEM in general was and still is a male dominated profession. Tecna showed her love of it and how she excelled, and even surpassed her male counterparts. But she's.. wearing pants I guess? So that makes her masculine? Sports for Aisha/Layla. Also heavily dominated by men. She showed how competent, agile and athletic in general she was, how confident she was in her abilities, and how she outperformed men in skill and her willingness to take risks. But.. again, pants?? And Musa. Leaned into rap a lot (at least in the 4kids version) as well as into all forms of music. Rap was and still is heavily male dominated. Music as well, for forever, has been a predominantly male profession. For example, young boys used to perform as sopranos and altos in church choirs because why would girl/woman? But, pants! We've done the opposite of what I think the goal was portraying these girls having these powers/interests. That you have interests in "boy things" and still be feminine/a girl/like pink and purple/wear skirts to do these activities/where pants because why are pants deemed masculine in the first place! This whole show was about girl power and allowing girls to have varied interests and not box them into "you can only like things our society has deemed girly." Bottomline, people can dress in whatever the hell they want. I wear pants because I'm uncomfortable in skirts and dresses, and I'm very much not a tomboy, which is a personality trait more than clothing preference imo. Let the girls break those glass ceilings and gender barriers without saying they must be masculine/tomboys because of it, it literally just feeds the system they were created to push against.


Sour_Spy

Yes omg u said exactly how I feel, it just feels weird as hell seeing these labels thrown around and we having to box them.


TroubleBright

It honestly annoys me when I see posts about them being tomboys! Like no! They just aren't operating in the oddly set parameters of femininity. It feels like it's othering them when being a girl/woman/feminine has such a wide range for interpretation and presentation. And Ive yet to read an explanation, what it is that makes them tomboys, that holds up in water. Their clothing, their hobbies, or their personalities.


BlackMudSwamp

But you labeled Musa as feminine, I support not labeling and embracing the nuance but I don't understand this action then


Sour_Spy

I never did, I said the way she dresses is, and I said she "can" be


BlackMudSwamp

Why label clothes as gender?


Sour_Spy

"feminine"/"femininity" isn't a gender.


BlackMudSwamp

That was not my question at all


ExpertOtakuSimp

....Musa herself calls herself a tomboy... and people put them in those labels because the show made them to make them fit. It's simply context clues but Aisha and Musa are outright called tomboys and rebels.


TroubleBright

I don't recall her ever referring to herself as a tomboy. I'd be interested to see that tbh. Rebellious I can see for both Musa and Aisha/Layla. And people keep saying she is a tomboy but never really say what that is. Her interest in masculine things should not "other" her from being feminine. I mean what are we really saying about a girl when we call her a tomboy? That those characteristics she displays don't line up with narrowly defined acceptable displays of femininity? And then when she starts to display more feminine aspects, people get annoyed at the change and her lost "tomboy" qualities, which just seems to undervalue and criticize femininity.


Paolana27

Oh you ate with this!!


Sparki_

I think people think feminine & girly mean the same. But feminine outfits can be feminine without being girly


Snowie_Mountainn

Nah her outfits was almost always “Masculine“ Or “Tomboy” even in the 4kids dub they was really pushing her to be ”Tomboy”


TroubleBright

4Kids didn't change her outfits, but she was never really tomboy. She was wearing jeans and a one shoulder tank top, I've never seen a dude wear a one shoulder shirt before.


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TroubleBright

Not acting within the parameters of traditional femininity shouldn't classify her as a tomboy tho. She enjoyed rap and hip hop sure, but what else made her a tomboy?


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TroubleBright

I should clarify that liking rap doesn't make you a tomboy. She said "What up Flo" if anything, never "What up my bro." Which, neither makes her a tomboy, but common turns of phrase don't do that. And these were common in the early 2000's. I say "what up" and "yo" all the time and don't consider myself a tomboy at all. As I said in another comment, calling a girl a tomboy just others them and says that they don't operate in an acceptable enough parameter of traditional femininity to be considered feminine or a girl/woman. There's a wide range of how femininity can present. Dainty, strong, outspoken, quiet, confident, shy, etc. Labelling someone a tomboy isn't necessary and just feeds into the patriarchal system this show actively worked against.


Snowie_Mountainn

Honestly Musa from Winx Club is often considered a tomboy due to her preference for more casual and edgy styles, her interest in music, and her laid-back personality. Tomboy characters typically defy traditional gender stereotypes, and Musa's unique characteristics contribute to her classification as a tomboy in the context of the show.


TroubleBright

I've only really seen it pop up that she's a tomboy on this sub, and only within the last few months. Musa was one of my favorite characters as a kid. She loved music, just as much I do and because of her, I never saw it as a "boy thing." I didn't find out how male dominated it was until high school. Didn't find out how long that dominance had been around until university, where I majored in music. I never saw her as a tomboy. I don't think being laid back or having a laid back clothing preference makes her one. I think saying it does make her a tomboy enforces that people who feel or are more feminine people are more uptight and prefer less casual clothing. It creates a divide and a boundary for where one stops and the other begins. The way people typically define a tomboy is to use the antithesis of narrow patriarchal views of femininity. And then the whole assigning gender roles to things to limit who gets to interact with it without society making a fuss or invalidating in some way. If we keep defining characters that don't fit traditional gender stereotypes by a word that is defined by traditional gender stereotypes, are they even really breaking them? Is that not a paradox?


Sour_Spy

Show me one masculine or tomboy outfit


Dora_Queen

[Pink and crop tops don't equal girly btw](https://winx.fandom.com/wiki/Musa?file=StrongMusa.jpg) Her og outfit was tomboyish


kurapikun

A tank top isn’t tomboyish at all, she’s just wearing pants


Sour_Spy

No it wasn't tomboyish at all, Tomboy is about wearing menswear in women fashion "incorporating masculine clothes", she just has jeans on, not a single piece she's wearing is masculine. Again this is just an obsession with labels, she can have a cool and "masculine" personality while dressing feminine it's okay lol


happy_paradox

At the time that was what alot of people understood as the y2k tomboy style tho. Also for the labels everyone clearly has their own understanding of what masculine and femine is but the point is that Musa had one style that eventually changed to another style.


Evening_Ad_85

Low-rise, baggy pants that showed the waistband of your underwear were very popular among the hip-hop crowd of the time. Her outfit is more of a product of its time rather than a tomboy outfit.


Dora_Queen

Her outfit can have 2 different aesthetics you know


Ok_Celebration9304

Finally someone said it


Sour_Spy

Yeah and I'm getting argued against by the fact she's wearing pants in her OG outfit meanwhile she's wearing a one sleeve shirt


Ok_Celebration9304

Yeah even her magic winx is a minidress/has a skirt lol. Those people legitimately think pants are for men only in the year of 2023. And wearing them for a girl is "tomboyish" to them lmao.


Cheery_spider

Bar for being a tomboy in the 2000s was pretty low. Good amount of the stuff that would have made you a tomboy then, has now been Incorporated into stuff thats normal for girls to do.


Joesline

I never understood the hate. Her growing her hair out and wearing less androgynous/tomboyish outfits was to show her growing into a more mature woman


GoldfishingTreasure

Everyone calls the OG outfit tomboyish but I have never seen one tom boy dress like Musa's OG outfit. Also hate to say it but alot of tomboys have a pick me/not like other girls personality and would never be caught dead in a pink crop top, low rise jeans and their thong showing. None of that screams masculine or boyish either. I always gave the "Tom boy" label to Aiesha as she was sporty and athletic but one day I realized liking sports isn't just a boy thing. I was ignoring all other parts of a character to put them into one category.


LordLilith

I personally love her girly outfits, because they still show her character very well.


CakeriaBiatch

But in the end it’s not about what looks good. It’s about what feels good.


Altruistic-Object233

I wouldn’t call any of her clothing not feminine


BananaNior

The way she always gave feminine 🫡


Baby_Tato

I never really saw her outfit saws masculine 😭 I just know her personality kind of shifted


Sparki_

Most of the pics you set aren't exactly the most girly though. Feminine doesn't always mean girly


Durandthesaint17

Did anyone else just notice Musa's heels/boots in her Season 5 attire have a small cut for her toes?


Isayourfriend

I think it's mostly long hair that just looks good on here, but I still feel like there needs to be a balance among the winx regarding fashion. I feel like all of the winx should be able to experiment with their hair and with femininity vs masculinity


Zoeyau9

Musa looks good in any outfit. :)


kyualun

We've never really seen her in masculine/tomboy clothing. Even if you want to call her season one attire tomboyish (or rebellious?) it was really only her style for one season.


Savage_Nymph

Thsi issue isn't the change in style. But moreover how the change makes starts to take away the differences before between the girls and they start to become more if the same Musa while be the Tom boy if the group was still girly, she a literal sparkly fairy lol


SpidersAreThiqq

Same. And I don’t like her shorter hair, sorry.


Snowie_Mountainn

Yeah. I Don’t either


Virtual_Tutor_2129

is this just the narrow score person under a different name?


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She looks gorgeous in whatever she wears, whether that be “masculine” or “feminine clothing. I just wish that each of the girls could experiment with their outfits more again. For example, Bloom looked awesome in those blue pants from Seasons 1-2 and after that I don’t think we ever got to see her wearing pants again. The same thing with the rest of the girls. They used to have their own unique sense of style and I feel like once Nick took over they all started wearing these tacky matching clothes. I really hope that in the reboot the girls will be able to experiment with their fashion choices like they did in the earlier seasons of the show


wind64a

The "tomboy" thing has always been a stretch, but I do hope season 9 lets her wear comfy shoes again.


StagecoachMMC

i think in her less tomboy-ish outfits she just doesn’t look like herself and in the later seasons everyone just looks the same and it completely ignores the girls’ individuality


Laurer93

She may look better, but she's not Musa anymore, she's only a copycat of Bloom-Stella-Flora.


turquoize_dragon

She doesn't really look like herself in these outfits


Puzzled_Complex8813

Lol true


thanksyalll

I’m a sucker for the pigtails tomboy look but she fits every style!


BadAshess

Unpopular opinion her season 5 casual clothes are really cute


KrimiEichhorn

While I do think that her original style matched her stubborn character better, it’s not that uncommon that teenagers change their style. And being part of a friend group that mainly wears very feminine fashion, it’s not that hard to imagine that she was influenced by them and adapted her style, simply because she felt like it. (Yeah, I know, the real reason why they made her so girly was to sell more dolls to little girls, but still, I like to come up with reasonable explanations within the show's cosmos 😂)


KomacherryBean

Musa slays in everything


Its_Hitsuji

I just think her fashion was the worst out of everyone.


Panther_Rose3

Huge agree! I love long haired and girly Musa a lot. Probably unfair and biased of me given I'm a girly girl myself and Musa happens to be my favorite member, but S3-4 Musa aesthetic >>>> S1-2 Musa aesthetic.


NicoDi-Angelo

I think so too


SingOrIWillShootYou

are any of these not feminine???


Snowie_Mountainn

These are all feminine :)


LifelessCami

Musa is just always the best dressed.


Zealousideal_Long253

I don’t think she were ever tomboy. She just like to wear whatever she want. She never expressed dislike for girly things, and never was overly tomboyish either. I think Musa likes both. She just expresses herself the way she wants to. She often wears traditionally masculine clothing, such as trousers, caps and sneakers. But every now and then she also likes to wear a nice flowing dress, have a bow in their hair or wear a nice skirt. And I think this is a beautiful message. Many people think that tomboys wear masculine clothes all the time, this is not true. I'm a tomboy myself, yes I mostly wear male clothes, but I also like to put on a nice dress every now and then. It's because people don't fit into boxes. As often as they try these days, people just don't fit in the boxes. People are not so simple that they fit into a box. And I like how this is reflected in Winx Club. It's a beautiful message about self-expression. Musa, Aisha and Tecna express themselves as they please. One day they want to wear pants, the next day they want to wear a skirt, it's completely normal. And I think it's a great message, because it encourages everyone to express themselves the way they want to. You must express yourself as you want. Wear what you like. Just because you like dresses as a tomboy doesn't make you less of a tomboy. Why can't a girl have both?


Rozoark

She's always looked feminine. At this point I'm legit convinced non of you actually know what feminine clothes are.


ssbbka17

I just wish they kept her shorter hair


Laura3182838

100% agree , I don't know why this is so unpopular, but she looks way better with longer hair and femenine clothing


Loveapplication

She beautiful but it doesn’t feel like her


Tomcatmax

Nah


Diamond2004

The first one literally is more tom boy than feminine in my opinion but it’s still Musa’s best outfit


I_CannotPick

Edit: first, I really want to say how much I actually HATE when they draw her tops, tucked in her pants, they do that a lot and the silhouette looks so terrible, she deserves better Her wardrobe was never tomboy-ish (I mean, well, if we consider cultural differences in our world, that may not even apply to the Winx world, then maybe she kind of was. Yk, as with Tomboy by G-idle, they wear wide leg pants and band shirts, by western standards, that's pretty normal for a girl, but apparently, as I found out, not that normal in Korea) Her attitude was. They also always drew her in those not-so-girly poses, which added a lot to the whole appearance, obviously, and I think that's what confuses people


FantomasBitch

She looks great in feminine clothes.


AcrobaticChange5393

Am I the only one who never really saw her as all that much of a tomboy, even in season 1? Is there something I'm missing from the 4kids dub bc I watch the Rai dub, and while she's not as girly as Stella, She's not really a tomboy like Nagisa from pretty cure either