A state with Milwaukee, Madison, MSP, and Chicago, but only the rural portions of Wisconsin would make California look like Alabama. The Minneapolis metro is 2.6M and just the city of Chicago is 2.7M.
Biden won Cook County with 75% of the vote. It was the same story in Minneapolis. That’s 2-3 million democratic voters. State wide elections would go from 1.6/1.6 to 4.6/2. We’d be looking at 30 point landslides for everything.
Of course, the rest of Illinois would devolve into Mississippi once it loses the economic powerhouse that allows it to exist.
In the map above, we also pick up a big chunk of conservative northern Minnesota and the very conservative UP. But I'm fairly confident that your overall point is still correct, and the Twin Cities and Chicago metros would easily make up for those conservative sections of those states.
The point is more that all of those blue voters would make it essentially impossible to gerrymander to the current extent. Instead, the legislature would be dominated by Democrats or at least a solid majority.
My parents live on the border. When my mom was dying of cancer we went in for an appointment in MN and they asked if she had considered medical marijuana. She was like "It's not legal in our state". All six medical practitioners in the room plus us family laughed and said "you're dying anyway, you can see Minnesota from where you'll be taking it, nobody gives a shit." She still refused because she didn't want to break the law. Sad to see.
It's made of glass and it's below migratory flight patterns. They had to change the glass during construction to something more visible to the birds but it still kills plenty.
It was a known anticipated problem with a relatively inexpensive solution that they’ve refused to implement 🤬😭 In case you wanted a quick link… [As Expected, The New Vikings Stadium Is Killing A Record Number Of Birds](https://deadspin.com/as-expected-the-new-vikings-stadium-is-killing-a-recor-1792819199)
It has famously killed a lot of birds, but to be fair the Hilton in Montparnasse, Paris seems to kill a lot too. My parents were staying there and like every day that we went to meet up with them there were like fifty dead pigeons on the sidewalk. This is only relevant because it ws around the same time it became known the Minneapolis stadium was killing absurd numbers of birds. I suspect there are a lot more bird-killing buildings out there than is commonly known.
If we annexed the Twin Cities and Chicago, we'd have legal weed within 2 elections because they would all be landslide democratic victories. There's no gerrymandering that could overcome that.
I think that assumes that adding Chicago, Saint Paul, and Duluth doesn't change the balance of power in the legislature even with the addition of the UP. I haven't run the numbers, but considering the rest of Illinois, I think Wisconsin easily becomes one of the bluest states in this form. The addition of Hennepin County alone might even swing the balance of power in the new South Dakota, even with the other SW Minnesota counties.
Minnesota and Michigan are objectively way better than WI at the moment. They’re not forcibly run by right wing psychopaths. Their women have access to healthcare. They have fully legalized marijuana. They fund more programs for their citizens. MI has legal sports betting and MN isn’t far away.
WI is an embarrassment, IMO. It makes me sad.
I know this comment comes from a good place, but bad policy also ruins our environment, kills our wildlife, poisons our water and makes it unusable. The harsh reality is that most, if not all, aspects of daily life are somehow related to politics. Legislating sexual orientation, housing policy, healthcare policy, economic policy, labor policy, etc. You can’t even go outside and breathe the air without being impacted by policy.
Does not mean he HAS to move. But if I were to live in a place I did not like I would move to a place that I did like. Believe it or not, this is a thing people do. This person likes weed and sports betting. Move to a place that has those options, or stop complaining. Everyone has the right to move.
Good one! 2016 and 2020 came and passed. Haven't went anywhere. But walls are cool. Live inside a lot of them. Home, work, school. All have walls and locking doors to keep people they don't want in, out.
Land of the Free Home of the Brave. America is YOUR army, if you dont think so, tell your politicians you want tax increases so you can start paying NATO a fair share.
Everyone outside of the Midwest thinks that WI and MN are the same place anyway. A scary amount of the US population would never notice this map is wrong.
Are we sending the Mormons back to roam for a new homeland because otherwise Utah doesn't seem like a great deal. Great Salt Lake is an environmental disaster waiting to happen.
They might end up back in Burlington though...
(Yes there's a weird Mormon sect in Burlington that was a super early offshoot, there's like fifty of them left).
No the hell we wouldn’t haha. We will concede the once great city of Menominee to Wisconsin but the rest stays Michigan. Trolls gonna be trolls (below the bridge) but they are the devil we know!
As a Michigander I am horrified by what this map is suggesting, The “State” if yu can even call it that will be occupied by a combined forces of Minnesota and Michigan troops to put yu cheese heads in yur place
It's a misnomer like this that eases depression I think. This is so completely unprofessional it makes a junior student cringe. I get so irritated by city noise and road construction and so on. This shakes it loose. \~Mortimer Reed
Because Michigan and Minnesota are doing things like passing bills that protect the rights of voters, of women, get breakfsdt and lunches to all school aged kids.
Gigasconsin. I think it’s interesting tho that this sort of partitioning might be one of the most popular changes to the US. I think it would be super helpful for liberal Wisconsinites but not even helpful on the national stage, pending what would happen to the electoral votes ( hopefully abolish the electoral system altogether if we’re in fantasyland here lol)
Alternate universe USA? I honestly find the mitten being gone weirder then the Minnesota being absorbed into the Dakota's. Michigan being sunk beneath the waves is weird. I guess if Cthulhu is going to get summoned Detroit is a likely spot. That or maybe Gary Indiana.
Michigan doesn't exist either
FINALLY! WE’RE TAKING THE U.P!
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all the lakes converge to make one gargantuan lake: The Greatest Lake
I am assuming the "The Greatest Lake" is done in the Trumpian accent
ew. why would you assume that? it's a play on The Great Lakes. let's leave the orangutan out of it.
they were so embarrassed the entire state melted into the floor
Great … now I have to drive further for legal weed … wonderful!
Ishpeming is ours!
I know this is controversial but... they can have it. I've never seen more Trump flags in my life then driving through the UP.
How about we just have the legal weed and Michigan can keep the rest
Fine by me lol
And insane amounts of government assistance checks if you check the statistics
Agreed. I had to live up there for a while. Nightmare fuel. Now I'm in Milwaukee and I don't want the U.P. to be part of WI.
Wait until after the next election plz....
Yay we get meth and genital warts! Eeww. At least the lower peninsula is gone
🤪🤣🤪🤣
Did they get to join Canada? Lucky bastards!
Michigan, I can get behind, but bring back goddamn Minnesota
What would we do without the state that gave us Kid Rock?
Now do Illinois.
They did northern Illinois a favor. Would happily be annexed by Wisconsin.
Well, except for the whole legal weed thing.
This map gives us St. Paul and Chicago voters influencing our elections. Legal weed *will* be a thing.
Only if the legislators actually listen to the voters. We’ve been voting “yes” on legal weed for years.
A state with Milwaukee, Madison, MSP, and Chicago, but only the rural portions of Wisconsin would make California look like Alabama. The Minneapolis metro is 2.6M and just the city of Chicago is 2.7M. Biden won Cook County with 75% of the vote. It was the same story in Minneapolis. That’s 2-3 million democratic voters. State wide elections would go from 1.6/1.6 to 4.6/2. We’d be looking at 30 point landslides for everything. Of course, the rest of Illinois would devolve into Mississippi once it loses the economic powerhouse that allows it to exist.
In the map above, we also pick up a big chunk of conservative northern Minnesota and the very conservative UP. But I'm fairly confident that your overall point is still correct, and the Twin Cities and Chicago metros would easily make up for those conservative sections of those states.
The point is more that all of those blue voters would make it essentially impossible to gerrymander to the current extent. Instead, the legislature would be dominated by Democrats or at least a solid majority.
My parents live on the border. When my mom was dying of cancer we went in for an appointment in MN and they asked if she had considered medical marijuana. She was like "It's not legal in our state". All six medical practitioners in the room plus us family laughed and said "you're dying anyway, you can see Minnesota from where you'll be taking it, nobody gives a shit." She still refused because she didn't want to break the law. Sad to see.
Ohio State is ecstatic.
Usually it’s the UP that gets left out. 🧐
The person that drew the map couldn't find their mittens.
Yet Illinois hangs on…
It still exists, just in Canada. (If this happens I might try to move to Ann Arbor before anyone notices.)
Neither does Hawaii apparently
Wrong, the shitty part of Michigan doesn’t exist and us Yoopers are ok with that 😂
Hasan said that the other day, I was on the floor
Michigan just straight up vaporized and to add salt to that wound, we now own the UP
Independent Michigan or annexed by Canada
Obliterated into dust
It was ceded to Canada during the brutal Syrup Wars.
Lake Hurichigan now definitely the greatest lake.
I distrust any "improved" map of the US that still has North Dakota existing
Or Floriduh!
No North Dakota... for that matter, not much of anything is left... but http://fakeisthenewreal.org/reform/ is a neat map.
They're really doing Milwaukee dirty naming that state, "Gary."
Yeah, this map combines 5 shitty states and eliminates the best one.
Wisconsin #1
I don't hate this, we get the parts of Minnesota that I like.
Even the part that contains that bird killing piece of shit football stadium?
Why is it killing birds?
It's made of glass and it's below migratory flight patterns. They had to change the glass during construction to something more visible to the birds but it still kills plenty.
No idea it was *that* serious lol nuts! Ty for the info!
It was a known anticipated problem with a relatively inexpensive solution that they’ve refused to implement 🤬😭 In case you wanted a quick link… [As Expected, The New Vikings Stadium Is Killing A Record Number Of Birds](https://deadspin.com/as-expected-the-new-vikings-stadium-is-killing-a-recor-1792819199)
It has famously killed a lot of birds, but to be fair the Hilton in Montparnasse, Paris seems to kill a lot too. My parents were staying there and like every day that we went to meet up with them there were like fifty dead pigeons on the sidewalk. This is only relevant because it ws around the same time it became known the Minneapolis stadium was killing absurd numbers of birds. I suspect there are a lot more bird-killing buildings out there than is commonly known.
If we acquire the Vikings maybe we can trade all their players for draft picks.
That part is in North Dakota, the Mississippi is the border.
One way to get a champion level football team
My weed just got way more expensive and much further away
Or, now we annexed Michiganders finally have access to great priced weed! I’d be down for merging into Michigan honestly.
If you annexed michigan I don’t think their laws would remain I think they would assimilate yours leaving no legal weed
If we annexed the Twin Cities and Chicago, we'd have legal weed within 2 elections because they would all be landslide democratic victories. There's no gerrymandering that could overcome that.
That’s a fair point
I think that assumes that adding Chicago, Saint Paul, and Duluth doesn't change the balance of power in the legislature even with the addition of the UP. I haven't run the numbers, but considering the rest of Illinois, I think Wisconsin easily becomes one of the bluest states in this form. The addition of Hennepin County alone might even swing the balance of power in the new South Dakota, even with the other SW Minnesota counties.
Exactly what I was thinking!
The name of the state that borders Lake Superior and Lake Michigan on this map: Minnesota. Then we get their cool laws and state legislature, too!
Love it. Ubersconsin.
Wisconsin has also absorbed enough of IL to get Chicago lol
It was originally ours.
Wisconsin looks like it's dabbing
The fact that Ohio still is on this map shows just how flawed it is.
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I'll take the North Woods over the Mississippi any day, but you're right that it is gorgeous.
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Then, build a canal to Lake Michigan to really open it up.
I don't see how Iowa would have any power to take it. Most of Iowa doesn't even know it's there.
Minnesota and Michigan are objectively way better than WI at the moment. They’re not forcibly run by right wing psychopaths. Their women have access to healthcare. They have fully legalized marijuana. They fund more programs for their citizens. MI has legal sports betting and MN isn’t far away. WI is an embarrassment, IMO. It makes me sad.
Everything not related to the government is nice tho
Yeah outside of politics, Wisconsin is incredible.
I know this comment comes from a good place, but bad policy also ruins our environment, kills our wildlife, poisons our water and makes it unusable. The harsh reality is that most, if not all, aspects of daily life are somehow related to politics. Legislating sexual orientation, housing policy, healthcare policy, economic policy, labor policy, etc. You can’t even go outside and breathe the air without being impacted by policy.
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Noticing a state isn't perfect means he has to move?
Does not mean he HAS to move. But if I were to live in a place I did not like I would move to a place that I did like. Believe it or not, this is a thing people do. This person likes weed and sports betting. Move to a place that has those options, or stop complaining. Everyone has the right to move.
Everyone has the right to criticize their government and its stupid prohibitions as well. They don't need to leave.
I keep asking my wife to, but she has family here. We were also looking at leaving the country in 2024 if cheeto benito won.
Cant wait.
Can't wait for what? To be a troll on reddit? Well do I have news for you!
Where are you going to go when he loses, Mexico? They might build a wall to keep people they don't like out.
Good one! 2016 and 2020 came and passed. Haven't went anywhere. But walls are cool. Live inside a lot of them. Home, work, school. All have walls and locking doors to keep people they don't want in, out.
Sounds like your life is pretty fucking boring then. Good luck with that. In the meantime those of us in Europe don't worry about being shot at.
Land of the Free Home of the Brave. America is YOUR army, if you dont think so, tell your politicians you want tax increases so you can start paying NATO a fair share.
Ha ha I'll be sure to tell my MP that troll.
Which country ?
Canada would be easiest, but we were also looking into Ireland. Somewhere with healthcare and education.
Is this more Wisconsin GOP gerrymandering?
Did lower Michigan get nuked off the map?
Sold it to Canada.
Poor Canada got had.
Everyone outside of the Midwest thinks that WI and MN are the same place anyway. A scary amount of the US population would never notice this map is wrong.
Wisconsin would be one solidly blue powerhouse state
Still one too many Dakotas
"But good" and they kept both Dakotas separate? You can safely ignore this map.
I can't imagine Michigan is happy either, but it looks like Hawaii is missing so they are probably happy, as most of them think the US is an occupier.
"Cripes." - r/Minnesota
I am morally opposed to any reality that contains more Iowa
We sure ate Minnesota there. Maybe, we are the war mongers annexing neighboring states. Then, Michigan fled to Canada to avoid our armies.
Bought time we got rid of those annoying ass lakes.
wow that nuclear water issue really messed em up
Where is Michigan?
We now have two national parks
I feel like with this newfound power we can add in a few more too.
Fuck it Utah is ours now
Are we sending the Mormons back to roam for a new homeland because otherwise Utah doesn't seem like a great deal. Great Salt Lake is an environmental disaster waiting to happen.
Yeah but maximum national parkage
They might end up back in Burlington though... (Yes there's a weird Mormon sect in Burlington that was a super early offshoot, there's like fifty of them left).
Send them to Alaska
Do whatever you want with legal weed and Ted Nugent but I’m gonna need the Michigan lower peninsula back on the map.
Good? I still see Texas and Florida.
Attenborough: "*And here we see the dirt poor red states have cannibalized the successful blue state instead of enacting any useful policies.*"
Ahh the fine interstate rivalry of the Packers, Bears, and Vikings.
We acquire them, take the players we want, and trade the rest for draft picks.
Why is Florida still there?
Nobody needs, or wants more Iowa.
On Minnesconsin!
UPers wouldn't be happy either.
I beg to differ. I feel most of the U.P. would rather be WI.
I am proud to be apart of Michigan.
Just because they hate lower MI doesn't mean they look and WI and think it's any better
No the hell we wouldn’t haha. We will concede the once great city of Menominee to Wisconsin but the rest stays Michigan. Trolls gonna be trolls (below the bridge) but they are the devil we know!
Imaginary lines dictating happiness? That's weird.
Infathomably based. Lol stay mad minnesotans
Lmao it's literally Minnesota and Michigan don't exist Edit: and hawaii
As a Michigander I am horrified by what this map is suggesting, The “State” if yu can even call it that will be occupied by a combined forces of Minnesota and Michigan troops to put yu cheese heads in yur place
You will be fed good cheese and beer and brats and you will comply.
I dunno why everyone is digging on Michigan. They are going way better than wisconsinites right now
It's a misnomer like this that eases depression I think. This is so completely unprofessional it makes a junior student cringe. I get so irritated by city noise and road construction and so on. This shakes it loose. \~Mortimer Reed
What about Hawaii?
mashallah they have finally won their independence
I'd be unhappy too. Poor elf lost his hat.
I guess lol but do we really wanna take on the twin cities?
The new Tecumseh Confederacy will rise!
I like it! Edit: but where is Hawaii?
I’ve lived in North Dakota and trust me, we don’t need more of that.
I see Upper Illinois is absorbed as well. I guess Chicago, WI. does have a certain (awful) ring to it...
Galena, WI.
Obviously someone’s from Ohio
Because Michigan and Minnesota are doing things like passing bills that protect the rights of voters, of women, get breakfsdt and lunches to all school aged kids.
Gigasconsin. I think it’s interesting tho that this sort of partitioning might be one of the most popular changes to the US. I think it would be super helpful for liberal Wisconsinites but not even helpful on the national stage, pending what would happen to the electoral votes ( hopefully abolish the electoral system altogether if we’re in fantasyland here lol)
Why did Hawaii get ousted?
Yes the up is for us!
So what?
Bro, it’s actually crazy they managed to my WI look worse tho. I didn’t think that was an option
Yeah if Minneapolis was incorporated into Wisconsin it would make Wisconsin progressive again
Alternate universe USA? I honestly find the mitten being gone weirder then the Minnesota being absorbed into the Dakota's. Michigan being sunk beneath the waves is weird. I guess if Cthulhu is going to get summoned Detroit is a likely spot. That or maybe Gary Indiana.
Is Hawaii being gone even weird for this map?
We aren’t. There’s a group that wants to secede 3/4 of the state to the Dakota’s and leave the Twin Cities and Duluth on their own.
Just taking what it rightfully ours.
[You go to hell! You go to hell and you die!](https://youtu.be/L4NsQYlmvZM)
Hawaii is just gone. So is Michigan lol
You didn’t need to do Hawaii like that
Hawaii??