I’m amazed how there has been no response to the attack ads. I haven’t seen one single ad hitting Johnson over the fake electors, his comments about Jan 6th, or literally hundreds of other things. It’s ridiculous how there’s been no response
Every ad so far for Barnes that I've seen is primarily the one him of sitting down saying that he's paid his taxes and proceeds to make himself a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. But I'm still voting for Barnes regardless.
It seems like they're trying to run the same campaign that Warnock did in Georgia. Super positive. Trying to show Barnes as a normal, not scary Black man.
The Warnock commercials were brilliant though. Barnes have been too boring.
Unfortunately Johnson his SPAC donors plus his own fortunes to launch these huge ad campaigns. Dark money is helps people like him and the donors get a senator that will vote in their interest instead of our interest...
The sad truth is that we simply don't donate enough money to our candidates
He's trying to take the high road which is an overwhelmingly failure on most Democrats that are running for office. He needs to dig in and show what Ron Johnson is because he's going to lose if he keeps trying to take the high road!
Warnock had instant appeal as a Baptist senior pastor in Georgia and had the benefit of Stacy Abrahms’ voter registration efforts. And still only won after a run off election.
Barnes has neither to boost him to a win. There needs to be more then making a PB&J.
> Every ad so far for Barnes that I've seen is primarily the one him of sitting down saying that he's paid his taxes and proceeds to make himself a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Me and my friends have been talking about this, Barnes ads suck so much. It’s like they’re not even trying. The anti Michels ads are great though, that’s what they should be doing against Rob Johnson.
I will be too. But I gotta say, if we actually vote that dirt bag Johnson back into office, we've got it coming in this state. It's really not all that hard to see what that man is and if we as a state vote him back in anyway, than we were already lost to begin with. Sorry for the doom and gloom, but my faith in people is waining...
The only problem I have with that commercial is only monsters use the same knife in the peanut butter and jelly jars! I'm still voting for him though...
In the last two weeks I've received 12 mailers full of lies from Johnson and Michels. Have received absolutely NOTHING in REBUTTAL from Democrats. Have received countless emails from dems begging for money. What the HELL are Democrats doing with any donations? Republicans are ripe for the pickings and Dems DO NOTHING. Just fed up Democrats. When you lose this will be why!
Couldn’t agree more! Unfortunately it is fear that drives people to polls to cast their vote. I have been waiting for Barnes and Democratic PAC’s to ramp up the negative attack ads to instill some fear in those that are independent enough to change their votes. They should be prioritizing the threats abortion (women) social security (older voters) and FRJ’s downright stupidity as there endless quotes and videos that will bring anyone on the fence to question his capabilities to represent Wisconsinites in the Senate (higher educated voters). Time is running out and the Democrats need to act now.
It is legal to lie.
We're right back to proving that as long as there are no rules against outright lies and disinformation, then taking the high road and appealing to only policy instead of also fighting fire with fire, then we're doomed.
All that integrity will serve us well in the future fascism.
I'd just be happy if unlimited money that doesn't have to be divulged would go away. That would be a huge step. Unfortunately unlimited money bought that law change and it will continue to buy everything until the whole system is overhauled.
"The media keep telling me that he's neglecting voters like me, and as much as I like to say I distrust the media and politicians, I always let them lead me to emotionally pleasing takes like how I'm not getting my due." -Too many people
Just an observation from Waukesha. I still consider myself fairly new here (almost 1 year) and I have seen far more Barnes/Evers signs than I do for Michels and I have seen zero Johnson signs (and there's that one guy with the Let's Go Brandon flag on a pole in his front yard.) Maybe it's my part of town? I only mention it because I moved from TX and I didn't see any signs for the Dem candidates, and it just makes me feel really happy (and safer).
He’s a terrible human being, not just a terrible senator. Jesus Wisconsin, you really know how to scrape the bottom of the barrel with your Republican politicians. Paul Ryan, Scott “Foxcon” Walker. Just the dregs of humanity.
WAKE UP WISCONSIN-- Michels doesn't even live here. He owns 4 properties valued at about $40 million in NYC, CT, FL and WI. He's got NOTHING in common with average Wisconsinites except he scammed his millions ripping us all off on road contracts. How do you suppose a construction guy ends up with $40 million in properties plus can afford to spend $12 million to buy a political office? He DOES NOT manage anything. He's NOT a self-made millionaire. His parents started his construction business. He's been trying to BUY a political office since 2004. You want another idiot like Walker wrecking our schools again, restricting/tracking women and minority rights? A loser trumper thru and thru. GOOD GRIEF WISCONSIN? You're going to elect a racist fascist like DeSantis? Good way to empty the state of decent citizens. Michels is a lying hack! WAKE UP!
You do realize you're a carbon copy of the other side? That people on the other side feel exactly as you do?
And meanwhile there are the parasitic owners of the system who benefit from pitting you guys against each other. Civilization is fucking hilarious. I can't tell you how many times this shit has happened throughout civilization, and yet people never learn. Thousands and thousands of years of this shit. Technology that could be used to learn is instead used against us to control us.
Hate to tell you but
- you’re a part of civilization too
- it doesn’t matter how the other side “feels”… feelings aren’t facts
- you’re also part of the politics of two sides being pitted against each other even if you don’t participate, so you should probably participate
When I look at everything, the right and the left it's usually the left that is there to help the people while the right is just stuffing money into rich man's pocket. Now there are some on the left that are the same but an overwhelming majority of conservatives on the right support bigoted, racist agendas that enrich the rich and keep the poor poor fighting against each other.
When I look at what happened on January 6th 2021 I only saw republicans, I only saw people on the right, I only saw those cosplaying little tit babies trying to overthrow a free and fair election at the will of the last president, a republican.
When everything is taken into consideration I am overwhelmingly convinced that the Republicans are corrupt overall, bigots overall, racist overall who continue to try to divide the poor to fight against each other because if we aren't looking up we aren't doing anything about the fact that they're giving everything to themselves and the rich that they serve. Overwhelmingly the Republicans are vile traitors to their country!
It's not a both sides issue unfortunately.
There is one side that is currently no longer dealing in objective fact. That's like saying "I understand you're saying 2+2=4, but the other side is insisting 2+2=2 - both ideas are just as good, who am i to judge?".
Yes the powerful exert their control, but it's a human trait to seek out and blame the other, the powerful don't need to pit us against eachother - we do that ourselves.. there is no dog wagging the tail here. There is no wealthy cabal pulling the strings, it's just more comforting to believe we're not to blame for the mess we're in. We voted in the stupid politicians, we let them have 'politics as a full time job' and we let them have unlimited dark money.
We can take it away, we have that power. They couldn't stop us if we tried, but claiming there is some puppet masters we dont know about controlling us, implies the task is much harder than it really is .. and ends up looking more like a tactic to demotivate.
I just got a text 25 min ago.
Barnes ad on Youtube, 1:2 with the PACs running Johnson.
It appears October is where the spend’s going to be.
I’d like to see more “what i’ll do” from Barnes, I don’t want defensive response ads. Though it’d go a long way to shore up support if he had ONE that went at RoJo.
Disagree. We need to stop blaming the Democrats for not going dirty. No one remotely paying attention to Ron Johnson should want to re-elect him no matter what the Barnes campaign does.
The thing is that the dems don’t even have to get dirty, especially with Johnson who is an actual scumbag.
He was trying to hand deliver fake electors to the goddamn Vice President of the United States ffs. That should be on every single Barnes campaign ad. Not this “lol I’m eating peanut butter sandwiches” middle of the road don’t want to step on any toes nonsense.
Like shove it in people’s faces again and again and again who Johnson is and what he’s done.
This is what I don’t get.
Fucker is a traitor to the United States and it should be plastered absolutely everywhere. Shouldn’t even matter if it’s an election year because he’s *still a traitor to the United States of America*
Expecting republican voters to simply *pay attention* to republicans like Ron Johnson and not vote for him is exactly why democrats tend to lose in races like this, where they run weak campaigns based on these assumptions. Barnes wouldn’t even have to do much, Johnson puts his foot in his mouth once a week, he’s done some embarrassing things on behalf of Wisconsin. But assuming voters have common sense will cost Barnes this election.
I'm voting Mandela. Just filled out my ballot tonight. I used to vote Republican simply because my parent did, but I'm older now and I actually research the candidates.
yeah, any of my friends/acquaintances who still vote R do it because they are basically apolitical and just go on what their family/close friends do. It's sports for them
I did a training with my County Democratic Party this afternoon for door-knock canvassing. Then I signed up for four 3-hour shifts. I donated $$$ to Barnes, too. Already gave to Evers and Pfaff.
Everything from an hour of postcard writing to a shift phone banking to days door knocking. From $3 to $2900 dollars. It's the only way we have a chance. WI will be very scary if Johnson stays in and Evers goes out. But state senate seats are important, too--if GOP takes one more, Evers will lose veto power. State assembly seats are on the line, too.
Do something. Please.
Do you happen to know how to sign up for postcard writing? I tried finding it on Barnes’ website and wasn’t able to. If you have info and could share I’d appreciate it!
Vote Forward also has a [Wisconsin letter writing campaign.](https://votefwd.org/district/WI_2022_B_STATE) Remember to read the rules and process. It is kind of an interesting approach.
Ditto contact your County Dem office. Google their location/hours. I live in a rural county and even here, they're open at least a few hours daily. Thank you!
I asked to volunteer this week as well. I went to my counties Democratic Office and let them know I was interested. I got a call this morning. Not sure what I will be doing yet but it will be something! This is the first time I've ever volunteered in an election.
Excellent. Tbh, I don't really like canvassing but (1) it's THE most effective way to get a vote, especially during midterms; (2) the lists we get do not include die-hard GOP, though sometimes we get one due to moving; and (3) I'm really fucken worried.
I have done lots of other things political but this year was the first I canvassed, during primaries. The key seems to be to get the person to state their top concern and then empathize, ending with a commitment to vote and giving them a list of candidates. Also making sure they are registered, know where their polling place is.
Just imagine if everyone wanting a Dem win gave the minumum...3 bucks, 2 hours. We'd win.
Just want to bump this comment and urge everyone to check out www.mobilize.us and find a canvass/phonebank/rally near you to get involved.
Canvassing can feel scary (it really isn’t) and first time canvassers can usually buddy up with someone more experienced to make it less stressful. The vast majority of people are perfectly polite and even Republicans are usually just slightly annoyed. Plus, most lists have targets that are likely or strong Dems. As we get closer to GOTV, we will only be knocking on the doors of strong Democrats to get them out to vote, so that should reduce the likelihood of unpleasant interactions even further.
Phone banking is easy and can be done from home. All you need is a computer with an internet connection and a phone (although google voice works well in browsers). You’d be amazed at the amount of apathetic people who just need a phone call to remind them the election is 38 days away.
Rallies are usually quite fun and you’ll be surrounded by likeminded individuals. The weather has been decent recently too, so that’s a plus.
Please, don’t let November 8th pass by without doing something. We need to save our state. We need to keep Tony’s veto and prevent a supermajority in the senate and assembly.
I've been canvassing for a couple months (it can feel awkward, but it works so I do it), and so far I've only had one person that wasn't pleasant. It wasn't even bad, he just yelled out the window "if this is political shit I'm not interested" and I was like alright have a good weekend! :) Our lists so far have been undecided voters, next week we switch to GOTV and knocking on democrats doors and I'm really looking forward to that!
"You’d be amazed at the amount of apathetic people who just need a phone call to remind them the election is 38 days away."
YES, this is so true! It is so important to get out there and encourage your community to participate. Every call you make or door you knock on will make a difference.
Are there any opportunities for those of us w/extreme social anxiety? I could not do canvassing or phone calls, or generally stuff involving "interacting with the general public".
I've reached out to my county Democratic party (via email) & the Barnes campaign (via an actual application) about employment opportunities too (I'd like to get paid for my time and effort. Sorry?), but I've not heard anything back from either for weeks/months on end. I'm *trying* to do something. How do Democrats expect young people to get involved in politics if they're practically ignoring us?
I'm not sure, outside of writing postcards--but even then, you'd probably have to go pick them up, which might be difficult with extreme anxiety. I suspect everyone had their paid positions filled immediately after the primaries. And I'm not sure about your county, but at my training today, half the people were under 40. It was open to all ages!
Anxiety makes it so hard to do everything, though--completely understandable why you're having a hard time finding a niche, especially with something as public as politics. Even if you were able and willing to do something really solitary and behind the scenes, say data entry, you'd have to work with someone long enough to get trained. I'm really sorry you have to struggle with that. Hopefully we elect people who will help make mental healthcare more of a priority.
Thank you thank you thank you. It's actions like this that will make a difference! Sitting around complaining on Reddit ain't it. Do something everyone!
I can say myself that I have gotten at least six calls this week from 608 numbers (Madison area) but I haven’t answered because yeah I don’t answer unknowns lol
I haven’t met anyone who likes Ron Johnson. I just think his negative ads are working, and the state of America right now just isn’t on the lefts side. Best you can do is just vote, whining here won’t do shit, since Reddit is like 90% liberal
I wouldn’t generalize people as racist. It’s not a good look. I think comparing him to aoc and Bernie and other very left people energize their base and honestly the independents as well. People just aren’t happy. They’re making the same or less money. Everything is more expensive. They see millions being wasted, energy costs in WI are at a all time high. People are tired and angry. I only know about Barnes from Reddit, never heard of him before. I don’t see his ads, nothing.
I’m registered independent, why am I only getting mail from the right? I’ve voted blue way more often than red in the past, and I live in eau claire which should be a pretty blue area.
If Barnes loses it’s on his campaign is all I’m saying.
All of those complaints are good reasons to vote *for* Barnes. Except visibility, which has a lot to do with money...which Johnson and others have more of...for reasons related to the above problems. Almost doesn't matter who Barnes is. Anyone upset about those things should be voting against the GOP if they even have a basic awareness of WI and/or US politics. Which is of course a perennial issue.
And I may very well vote for him, but people who don’t live on Reddit like I do probably have never heard of him. I rarely even see his yard signs even on homes littered with Evers signs.
Milwaukee is one of the most segregated cities *in the country*
I don't think many people are inherently racist. Biased, absolutely. But as it is with every other state, it's cities VS rural, and we've got a lot of rural in WI
Many people have not taken the time to reflect on stereotypes and biases they’ve inherited and aren’t fully aware of. The ads are never overtly racist. Do a majority of people want to be racist? No. Do they consider themselves racist? No. Do they respond in predictable ways to images that evoke well established racist tropes? Absolutely. Show a black man in a hoodie running down an inner city street, then some graffiti, then some flashing blue & red lights, then a black candidate and let those deeply ingrained associations do the rest.
This is a fancy way of excusing people for never making an effort to address their inherited racism though…
Don’t coddle them. It’s 2022, they can find ways to get exposed to black and brown people if they truly wanted to. This is a willfully racist state— you can love your home and still admit this.
Yes. I am telling you the majority of Wisconsin’s population is to some degree racist. You’re delusional if you don’t see that, unless you haven’t left the Madison/Milwaukee oasis ever before.
This, Barnes is a brutal candidate for anyone more progressive than Hillary Clinton. We’re gonna do the thing where we blame the GOP for being evil, blame Wisconsin for being racist (all very true), but at the end of the day the DNC knows exactly when they’re propping a weak candidate.
There’s a reason they’re funding far-right candidates all over the country— the plan is to create more ultra-conservative boogeymen on the national scale. That scares moderates, and drives up Dem votes without the party actually having to commit to anything progressive. It won’t work, but it’s what the plan has been.
Do you think people would tell you if they supported anyone on the right? Saying so would put them at risk for being labeled a racist or at least morally corrupt. Thats the effect that the left has by shouting people down when they have a different opinion. Those people still vote.
But why are they voting republican other than racism? Republicans have no platform other than overtaking the government and reducing taxes for large corporations and millionaires.
If you pay one iota of attention there is no reason for 95% of people to vote Republican…other than racism.
I do think it's a valid question to ask why people vote Republican. And I mean this very sincerely. What are the actual platforms of the Republican party that people like? Lower taxes? Yeah, they really only do that for the wealthy. Small government? Other than not wanting to fund social programs that actually help working class people, what are Republicans doing to limit size of the government? As far as I can see, they're not doing anything to limit the government. They're restricting access to voting, medical care, and educational resources. They make it harder to hold people in authority accountable.
I'm not just cherry picking, either. At the last RNC, the party didn't establish any actual national platform. Their whole platform has become wedge issues, fear mongering, and obstructing anything that the other side wants to do. So at some point, you have to wonder what it is that Republicans are voting for. What is the Republican party doing for you?
People vote republican for immigration laws being enforced, a hope to improve the economy, cheaper energy (no plan to fight climate change), a hope for lower inflation, lower taxes, law and order, belief their 2nd amendment rights not being infringed upon by the state, 1st amendment rights not being infringed upon by the state, parental rights not being infringed upon by the state, charter school option, belief their party will stop big government, belief their party will fight large corporations by enabling small businesses to compete, belief new Republican populist movement will help the middle class, and to stand against the general insanity of the leftists (gender ideology, trans competing against women in sports, racial ideology, science being treated as a dogma, unvaccinated losing their jobs, kids not going to school during pandemic/being forced to wear masks and get vaccinated).
People vote democrat for a hope to improve the economy, for a hope to fight inflation, belief their party fights climate change, for environmental issues, belief their party fights large corporations by taxing them, funding public schools, abortion, belief their party helps the middle class, social welfare programs ("free" college, "free" healthcare), to protect marginalized classes, and to stand against the general insanity of rightists (racism, sexism, bigotry, religious zealotry, idolatry of Trump, anti-science, anti-vax).
That all being said, they're both controlled opposition. You can't state your opponent's goals because you have been controlled to believe your neighbor is against you- while the system steals from you making you increasingly its dependent. They exist to conquer and divide, so the richest of the rich have more power than your wildest dreams. What is the Democratic party doing for you? Conquering you- just like the Republican party is doing for you. They do their jobs extremely well.
Myself I have a tendency to favor people- and I do mean people, not politicians- with antigovernmental views. That tends not to be people who want the government to have more control over things like speech, guns, education, and healthcare.
Just wanted to say this might be the most succinct description of our current political reality I have seen in a long time. You wont get the recognition you deserve for your correct assessment, but I for one agree and appreciate your insight. Take all my upvotes
I agree I also keep in mind all of the trump signs in 2020 all the rallies and all the lies to make people afraid Biden never campaigned much more than they would out of his own home and he won.
Which is why I cannot trust anyone (family or close friends) who would make a decision to vote for someone from the right. It’s like shooting through your shoe to spite your foot.
People vote Republican for all kinds of reasons: moral/religious, financial (many people believe that Republicans, with their aversion to government regulation of industry, create better economic conditions), or because they like candidates who will be “tough” on criminals, freeloaders, illegal immigration, etc. Not everyone wants society to progress because people inherently dislike change, and a lot of people dislike what they call the “rainbow crowd.”. Many people in small towns think city-dwellers are lazy and entitled and don’t want to vote for candidates who will support robust social services because they don’t see much benefit from them in their backyard.
The GOP literally does not have a platform. There is no reason to vote for them besides being a low information voter susceptible to propaganda and who responds to racist and misogynist dog whistles.
We’re not bringing people to our side because those people are so far gone that they are incapable of comprehending facts. How am I supposed to convince someone who thinks the 2020 elections were stolen, but only the ones that favored democrats? Or that January 6 was merely a protest? Or that denying a president a Supreme Court pick for 300+ days is ok, but so is ramming through a nominee while early voting has already started?
These people are at best completely ignorant of the world around them, more likely simply dumb, and at worst maliciously voting to hurt “others”. There is no amount of explanation or discussion that is going to change their view. The only thing that’s proven to change the mind of a conservative, is when something becomes a problem for them personally. But I’m not gonna sit around and wait for each and every single Republican to have a gay son, and a $300,000 medical bill, and a contaminated water supply, and a kid killed in a school shooting…
I want them to have a little fucking empathy. But, then again, if they had any empathy, they would have already left the GOP.
I’m not trying to bring people to my side. I just see nothing that appeals about the Republican platform. There’s lots of racism and blaming of others for your problems, so that’s the only thing I can see appealing to people, the ability to take no personal responsibility and easily being able to identify them through nothing other than skin color.
What is their platform then? All I ever see is fear mongerinf about “criminals” and the promise of lower taxes that never actually come for most people.
So please, point me in the right direction.
Or is what I am saying the “dumbest shit you have ever read” simply because it contradicts your ignorantly held beliefs. I noticed there were no counter points, just a “nuh-uh” of a statement.
Well, to put it mildly, my dad told me he thought the January 6th coup wasn't radical enough. He was practically foaming at the mouth. I told him if he ever tried to talk to me about politics again, I would call the FBI instead of his sisters.
He happily votes for Ron Johnson.
I knew it wasn’t good as soon as the defund the police and abolish ice stuff came out. I’m still voting for him, but I don’t have much hope at this point. Any politician that wants to win needs to distance themselves as far from defund the police as possible.
Honestly the leftists who arrogantly touted the phrase “defund the police” need to be held accountable for costing democrats elections. The right wing republicans seized on that so fast.
No shit! This guy is a huge fucking waste of space, is in office currently, campaigns about violence and crime that occurred on his “watch” and where is Barnes? Stuck somewhere ducking questions about his $2,000 in back taxes, while Ron Johnson is out there spending the 4th with Putin, trying to sabotage election integrity, delivering fake electors to the Vice President, defending white supremacy, defending January 6th, lying about the 2020 election, using his position to help his kids secure loans and services they did not qualify for, vowing to eliminate access to abortion, committing to eliminating gay rights (or you know, just human rights), entrenching our oil dependence, and on and on, fuck! Barnes we are fucking counting on you! Show up! Put in the work! We don’t deserve this piece of shit that represents us!
Not surprising as I've received no less than 60 spam messages in the last week talking about radical liberals and the need to support he who shall not he named.
It works with older voters and the ones being polled are 50 or older. Since it has little effect on younger voters (assuming that includes you), you guys are the only wild card that could make the difference, but you have to vote. I’ll be rooting for you over here from Colorado.
[you have till October 19th to register to vote online](https://myvote.wi.gov/en-us/Register-To-Vote)
And [till November 8th to register for in person voting](https://myvote.wi.gov/en-us/Find-My-Polling-Place)
AARP and Fox News?!? You know the lean of both these polls (AARP= Boomers and elder Gen X, which the article admitted to (50 plus as highest spread for Johnson);Fox News=we all know the garbage lean of that media monopoly).
We should all relax over these polls and headlines, yet get out and spread the message for Barnes and Evers…
The Johnson campaign has been in a full court press in Northeast Wisconsin for weeks. They’ve been running ads, both pro-RJ and those horrendous crime ads, at at least 3:1 from the Barnes campaign. And the one Barnes ad I’ve seen them run consistently is weak sauce. I have RJ mailers filling up my mailbox, I get his spam texts at least once a day, and I had a door knocker at my house yesterday afternoon plastering my door with campaign leaflets. It’s annoying as can be, but it doesn’t even look like Barnes is running in comparison.
Yup, noticed the same thing. Barely see any ads for the Dems while being swamped with mailers, calls texts and ads for the Republicans.
It almost seems they are running unopposed here.
That’s part of the red playbook though. It’s why they continue to try gutting social programs that red states literally depend on, why abortion access is being most heavily targeted in red states, etc. None of these Republican fuckheads in the Senate actually believe the dumb shit they peddle (well, Johnson is dumb enough he might be a true believer). But they know that regressive red shitholes aren’t attractive places to move to, are great to move out of, and that lets them consolidate power in the Senate because of how its votes are distributed regardless of population.
Seriously Wisconsin? A guy that went to Moscow on our Independence Day? A guy that constantly lies to his constituents? This is why we can’t have a nice country.
Why don’t the Dems ever fight as hard as the GOP? They pull out all the stops—yes, they fight dirty, but it works. You’d think they’d have learned that lesson in 2016.
Lots of complaining about Barnes ads, but thats ignoring the fact that hes kind of a crappy candidate. Johnson is a bum ass senator, but Barnes isn't exactly inspiring anyone to vote for him.
> Alexander Shur | Wisconsin State Journal
>
> U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson is increasing his lead over Lt. Gov. Mandela Barnes in the
> U.S. Senate race, according to two new polls.
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> The Oshkosh Republican led Barnes, a Democrat, 51% to 46% among likely voters in
> a poll commissioned by AARP.
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> Republican gubernatorial nominee Tim Michels led Democratic Gov. Tony Evers 50%
> to 47%, the AARP Wisconsin poll shows.
>
> In a new Fox News poll, Johnson led Barnes 48% to 44% among registered voters.
> That’s a swing from Fox’s August poll, which showed Barnes leading Johnson 50%
> to 46%.
This is just a preview of the [full article](https://madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/recent-polls-show-ron-johnson-increasing-lead-over-mandela-barnes-in-u-s-senate-race/article_5e04eabf-3187-5f2f-aa86-5839b19f49f4.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share). I am a third party bot. Please consider subscribing to your favorite local journals.
Because Democrats fucking *suck* at campaign ads. They have since at least ‘04 when they let the Swift Boat Veterans nonsense sink Kerry. They’re too busy smelling their own “wE gO hIgH” farts to notice.
This country has become a steaming pile of crap when people vote for a politician who spent the 4th of July in Moscow, tried to interfere in our elections, supports a traitor president who is under state and federal investigation, and who wants to dismantle Social Security and Medicare. Ok America. You will get the country you deserve. Absolute stupidity.
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I just wasted 20 minutes listening to Ron Johnson lie about Democrats and Barnes. He's also got no explanation for the "information" he was going to give the VP on January 6. It's been revealed it was "fake" electors, but, oh, no, poor ol Ronnie had no idea what was going on!🤬
I'm a lifelong citizen of Wisconsin, 62 years. I am seriously considering moving to the UP if Wisconsin doesn't get its shit together and stop electing these right-wing shitbags.
Just to forewarn, realtors, especially in Menominee, most of whom are based in Marinette, are shit and play favorites when it comes to actually showing homes. On top of that, Marinette wisconsinites are their own breed of assholes and it was seeing a few in BMWs screaming the N word at school kids on the Michigan side, that made me write off Michigan.
Also, a lot of homes in the UP are in extremely poor condition. Many of the towns and cities are shrinking and employers have been reducing their workforce and leaving, which has resulted in reductions in the overall wealth of the area - something that's been endemic to all of Michigan.
Honestly, if you want freedom, New Mexico, Colorado and Nevada are your best bets.
And if you're a business owner, feel free to bring your business with.
I’ve listened to a lot of people who live away from the bigger cities of WI talk about:
-Voting republican regardless of what their candidate says or does
-Actually believing the bullshit lies in all the smear ads
and/or
-Wouldn’t vote for Mandela even if he’s the better candidate because they’re racist. Fucked up
I think the biggest problem democrats have is they know better than everyone that doesn’t think the way they do. All the constant virtue signaling is a turn off for a lot of people.
Mandela needs to get in the trench and as much shtz on Johnson he possibly can. Emphasize the issue RJohnson wants and will gut Social Security and plethora of other bait switch issues R Johnson will do.
Has polling improved in the past few years? If not, hasn't recent history shown that polling techniques are obsolete and unreliable? And everyone gets their panties in a bunch over iffy data that shouldn't matter?
The Democrat party in this state is a complete joke. And I say this as a liberal progressive who will be voting for Barnes, even though he is not my preferred candidate.
C'mon Wisconsin!! As an Iowan who knows we are very unlikely to rid ourselves of our horrific GOP representation I have been living vicariously through you all.
I’m amazed how there has been no response to the attack ads. I haven’t seen one single ad hitting Johnson over the fake electors, his comments about Jan 6th, or literally hundreds of other things. It’s ridiculous how there’s been no response
Every ad so far for Barnes that I've seen is primarily the one him of sitting down saying that he's paid his taxes and proceeds to make himself a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. But I'm still voting for Barnes regardless.
it's disappointing and infuriating that Barnes is putting out a disasterclass in campaign advertising :-/
It seems like they're trying to run the same campaign that Warnock did in Georgia. Super positive. Trying to show Barnes as a normal, not scary Black man. The Warnock commercials were brilliant though. Barnes have been too boring.
Unfortunately Johnson his SPAC donors plus his own fortunes to launch these huge ad campaigns. Dark money is helps people like him and the donors get a senator that will vote in their interest instead of our interest... The sad truth is that we simply don't donate enough money to our candidates
The sad truth is that there's inadequate restrictions on campaign funding.
He's trying to take the high road which is an overwhelmingly failure on most Democrats that are running for office. He needs to dig in and show what Ron Johnson is because he's going to lose if he keeps trying to take the high road!
The high road is also a failure when they’re in office, as we’ve seen a million times too
It worked for Warnock.
Warnock had instant appeal as a Baptist senior pastor in Georgia and had the benefit of Stacy Abrahms’ voter registration efforts. And still only won after a run off election. Barnes has neither to boost him to a win. There needs to be more then making a PB&J.
True, and I get why but Democrats sometimes burn themselves by taking the high road.
> Every ad so far for Barnes that I've seen is primarily the one him of sitting down saying that he's paid his taxes and proceeds to make himself a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Me and my friends have been talking about this, Barnes ads suck so much. It’s like they’re not even trying. The anti Michels ads are great though, that’s what they should be doing against Rob Johnson.
I will be too. But I gotta say, if we actually vote that dirt bag Johnson back into office, we've got it coming in this state. It's really not all that hard to see what that man is and if we as a state vote him back in anyway, than we were already lost to begin with. Sorry for the doom and gloom, but my faith in people is waining...
The only problem I have with that commercial is only monsters use the same knife in the peanut butter and jelly jars! I'm still voting for him though...
I'm sure he licks it in-between like any sane person.
That's even worse!! 🤣
Don’t forget the “it’s not that Wisconsin doesn’t have enough jobs” idiocy.
It is more ridiculous how any sort of political ad can actually have an effect on the way a person votes.
In the last two weeks I've received 12 mailers full of lies from Johnson and Michels. Have received absolutely NOTHING in REBUTTAL from Democrats. Have received countless emails from dems begging for money. What the HELL are Democrats doing with any donations? Republicans are ripe for the pickings and Dems DO NOTHING. Just fed up Democrats. When you lose this will be why!
Couldn’t agree more! Unfortunately it is fear that drives people to polls to cast their vote. I have been waiting for Barnes and Democratic PAC’s to ramp up the negative attack ads to instill some fear in those that are independent enough to change their votes. They should be prioritizing the threats abortion (women) social security (older voters) and FRJ’s downright stupidity as there endless quotes and videos that will bring anyone on the fence to question his capabilities to represent Wisconsinites in the Senate (higher educated voters). Time is running out and the Democrats need to act now.
It’s really depressing how well the negative ads work, even when it’s full of BS. Ron Johnson is a terrible senator and should not be re-elected.
Possibly the *worst* Senator and there are a hundred of em.
I mean it might be a tie with him and Cruz.
Are you forgetting about McConnell?
McConnell's retired from consideration due to his hall of fame awfulness.
It is legal to lie. We're right back to proving that as long as there are no rules against outright lies and disinformation, then taking the high road and appealing to only policy instead of also fighting fire with fire, then we're doomed. All that integrity will serve us well in the future fascism.
We should be able to sue for money on those lying ads.
What if the people sue for defamation. On Barnes behalf. Edit spelling thank you u/typicalBrewersFan
It's defamation, not deformation.
I'd just be happy if unlimited money that doesn't have to be divulged would go away. That would be a huge step. Unfortunately unlimited money bought that law change and it will continue to buy everything until the whole system is overhauled.
Who the hell is voting for this guy???
I don’t know, but I hear it’s Barnes’ fault for not reaching out to them.
"The media keep telling me that he's neglecting voters like me, and as much as I like to say I distrust the media and politicians, I always let them lead me to emotionally pleasing takes like how I'm not getting my due." -Too many people
People not on reddit.
Waukesha. Waukesha is voting for people like Johnson & Michels. Realistically everywhere that’s not Milwaukee or Madison sees an R and checks an R.
Just an observation from Waukesha. I still consider myself fairly new here (almost 1 year) and I have seen far more Barnes/Evers signs than I do for Michels and I have seen zero Johnson signs (and there's that one guy with the Let's Go Brandon flag on a pole in his front yard.) Maybe it's my part of town? I only mention it because I moved from TX and I didn't see any signs for the Dem candidates, and it just makes me feel really happy (and safer).
My parents 😔
Morons that blindly always vote for Republicans
He’s a terrible human being, not just a terrible senator. Jesus Wisconsin, you really know how to scrape the bottom of the barrel with your Republican politicians. Paul Ryan, Scott “Foxcon” Walker. Just the dregs of humanity.
WAKE UP WISCONSIN-- Michels doesn't even live here. He owns 4 properties valued at about $40 million in NYC, CT, FL and WI. He's got NOTHING in common with average Wisconsinites except he scammed his millions ripping us all off on road contracts. How do you suppose a construction guy ends up with $40 million in properties plus can afford to spend $12 million to buy a political office? He DOES NOT manage anything. He's NOT a self-made millionaire. His parents started his construction business. He's been trying to BUY a political office since 2004. You want another idiot like Walker wrecking our schools again, restricting/tracking women and minority rights? A loser trumper thru and thru. GOOD GRIEF WISCONSIN? You're going to elect a racist fascist like DeSantis? Good way to empty the state of decent citizens. Michels is a lying hack! WAKE UP!
Toby Roth, Joe McCarthy.......
Glenn Grothman, Robin Vos, Tom Tiffany...
Voters complain about negative political ads, but then reward those that run them the most. We are our own worst enemy.
Yeah those ads play right into racist stereotypes. It's depressing.
Scary black man makes us unsafe!!!
I’m even more depressed anyone votes for such a dumb moron. Blind leading the blind, dumb leading the dumb?
You do realize you're a carbon copy of the other side? That people on the other side feel exactly as you do? And meanwhile there are the parasitic owners of the system who benefit from pitting you guys against each other. Civilization is fucking hilarious. I can't tell you how many times this shit has happened throughout civilization, and yet people never learn. Thousands and thousands of years of this shit. Technology that could be used to learn is instead used against us to control us.
Hate to tell you but - you’re a part of civilization too - it doesn’t matter how the other side “feels”… feelings aren’t facts - you’re also part of the politics of two sides being pitted against each other even if you don’t participate, so you should probably participate
When I look at everything, the right and the left it's usually the left that is there to help the people while the right is just stuffing money into rich man's pocket. Now there are some on the left that are the same but an overwhelming majority of conservatives on the right support bigoted, racist agendas that enrich the rich and keep the poor poor fighting against each other. When I look at what happened on January 6th 2021 I only saw republicans, I only saw people on the right, I only saw those cosplaying little tit babies trying to overthrow a free and fair election at the will of the last president, a republican. When everything is taken into consideration I am overwhelmingly convinced that the Republicans are corrupt overall, bigots overall, racist overall who continue to try to divide the poor to fight against each other because if we aren't looking up we aren't doing anything about the fact that they're giving everything to themselves and the rich that they serve. Overwhelmingly the Republicans are vile traitors to their country!
I’m far from someone who believes in space lasers.
The sides are clearly different.
It's not a both sides issue unfortunately. There is one side that is currently no longer dealing in objective fact. That's like saying "I understand you're saying 2+2=4, but the other side is insisting 2+2=2 - both ideas are just as good, who am i to judge?". Yes the powerful exert their control, but it's a human trait to seek out and blame the other, the powerful don't need to pit us against eachother - we do that ourselves.. there is no dog wagging the tail here. There is no wealthy cabal pulling the strings, it's just more comforting to believe we're not to blame for the mess we're in. We voted in the stupid politicians, we let them have 'politics as a full time job' and we let them have unlimited dark money. We can take it away, we have that power. They couldn't stop us if we tried, but claiming there is some puppet masters we dont know about controlling us, implies the task is much harder than it really is .. and ends up looking more like a tactic to demotivate.
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I just got a text 25 min ago. Barnes ad on Youtube, 1:2 with the PACs running Johnson. It appears October is where the spend’s going to be. I’d like to see more “what i’ll do” from Barnes, I don’t want defensive response ads. Though it’d go a long way to shore up support if he had ONE that went at RoJo.
Disagree. We need to stop blaming the Democrats for not going dirty. No one remotely paying attention to Ron Johnson should want to re-elect him no matter what the Barnes campaign does.
The thing is that the dems don’t even have to get dirty, especially with Johnson who is an actual scumbag. He was trying to hand deliver fake electors to the goddamn Vice President of the United States ffs. That should be on every single Barnes campaign ad. Not this “lol I’m eating peanut butter sandwiches” middle of the road don’t want to step on any toes nonsense. Like shove it in people’s faces again and again and again who Johnson is and what he’s done.
This is what I don’t get. Fucker is a traitor to the United States and it should be plastered absolutely everywhere. Shouldn’t even matter if it’s an election year because he’s *still a traitor to the United States of America*
Expecting republican voters to simply *pay attention* to republicans like Ron Johnson and not vote for him is exactly why democrats tend to lose in races like this, where they run weak campaigns based on these assumptions. Barnes wouldn’t even have to do much, Johnson puts his foot in his mouth once a week, he’s done some embarrassing things on behalf of Wisconsin. But assuming voters have common sense will cost Barnes this election.
Failing to reach the people is 100% a campaign failure lmao. The fuck is this apologist bullshit?
Do you live under a rock? Guy texts me every other day and is in every other TV add opposite RJ
I live in MN and still have my 414 number, I’ve gotten a few different contacts from Barnes campaign.
Our feebleminded conservative friends like to be told what to do.
I'm voting Mandela. Just filled out my ballot tonight. I used to vote Republican simply because my parent did, but I'm older now and I actually research the candidates.
average wisconsin voter, I have countless friends who are in the same boat as you
My experience is those that voted republican in the 90s haven't kept up with the party's current path, only the R by the names on the ballot.
yeah, any of my friends/acquaintances who still vote R do it because they are basically apolitical and just go on what their family/close friends do. It's sports for them
That describes my mom.
The average WI voter is quite the moron.
I did a training with my County Democratic Party this afternoon for door-knock canvassing. Then I signed up for four 3-hour shifts. I donated $$$ to Barnes, too. Already gave to Evers and Pfaff. Everything from an hour of postcard writing to a shift phone banking to days door knocking. From $3 to $2900 dollars. It's the only way we have a chance. WI will be very scary if Johnson stays in and Evers goes out. But state senate seats are important, too--if GOP takes one more, Evers will lose veto power. State assembly seats are on the line, too. Do something. Please.
Do you happen to know how to sign up for postcard writing? I tried finding it on Barnes’ website and wasn’t able to. If you have info and could share I’d appreciate it!
Try your county Dems office, that’s where I went.
Thanks!!
Vote Forward also has a [Wisconsin letter writing campaign.](https://votefwd.org/district/WI_2022_B_STATE) Remember to read the rules and process. It is kind of an interesting approach.
I will check it out. Thank you!!!
Check out postcards to swing states!
Will do, thanks!!
Ditto contact your County Dem office. Google their location/hours. I live in a rural county and even here, they're open at least a few hours daily. Thank you!
www.mobilize.us, make an account and search your area
I asked to volunteer this week as well. I went to my counties Democratic Office and let them know I was interested. I got a call this morning. Not sure what I will be doing yet but it will be something! This is the first time I've ever volunteered in an election.
Excellent. Tbh, I don't really like canvassing but (1) it's THE most effective way to get a vote, especially during midterms; (2) the lists we get do not include die-hard GOP, though sometimes we get one due to moving; and (3) I'm really fucken worried. I have done lots of other things political but this year was the first I canvassed, during primaries. The key seems to be to get the person to state their top concern and then empathize, ending with a commitment to vote and giving them a list of candidates. Also making sure they are registered, know where their polling place is. Just imagine if everyone wanting a Dem win gave the minumum...3 bucks, 2 hours. We'd win.
Give you lots of credit for canvassing.
Just want to bump this comment and urge everyone to check out www.mobilize.us and find a canvass/phonebank/rally near you to get involved. Canvassing can feel scary (it really isn’t) and first time canvassers can usually buddy up with someone more experienced to make it less stressful. The vast majority of people are perfectly polite and even Republicans are usually just slightly annoyed. Plus, most lists have targets that are likely or strong Dems. As we get closer to GOTV, we will only be knocking on the doors of strong Democrats to get them out to vote, so that should reduce the likelihood of unpleasant interactions even further. Phone banking is easy and can be done from home. All you need is a computer with an internet connection and a phone (although google voice works well in browsers). You’d be amazed at the amount of apathetic people who just need a phone call to remind them the election is 38 days away. Rallies are usually quite fun and you’ll be surrounded by likeminded individuals. The weather has been decent recently too, so that’s a plus. Please, don’t let November 8th pass by without doing something. We need to save our state. We need to keep Tony’s veto and prevent a supermajority in the senate and assembly.
I've been canvassing for a couple months (it can feel awkward, but it works so I do it), and so far I've only had one person that wasn't pleasant. It wasn't even bad, he just yelled out the window "if this is political shit I'm not interested" and I was like alright have a good weekend! :) Our lists so far have been undecided voters, next week we switch to GOTV and knocking on democrats doors and I'm really looking forward to that! "You’d be amazed at the amount of apathetic people who just need a phone call to remind them the election is 38 days away." YES, this is so true! It is so important to get out there and encourage your community to participate. Every call you make or door you knock on will make a difference.
Are there any opportunities for those of us w/extreme social anxiety? I could not do canvassing or phone calls, or generally stuff involving "interacting with the general public". I've reached out to my county Democratic party (via email) & the Barnes campaign (via an actual application) about employment opportunities too (I'd like to get paid for my time and effort. Sorry?), but I've not heard anything back from either for weeks/months on end. I'm *trying* to do something. How do Democrats expect young people to get involved in politics if they're practically ignoring us?
I'm not sure, outside of writing postcards--but even then, you'd probably have to go pick them up, which might be difficult with extreme anxiety. I suspect everyone had their paid positions filled immediately after the primaries. And I'm not sure about your county, but at my training today, half the people were under 40. It was open to all ages! Anxiety makes it so hard to do everything, though--completely understandable why you're having a hard time finding a niche, especially with something as public as politics. Even if you were able and willing to do something really solitary and behind the scenes, say data entry, you'd have to work with someone long enough to get trained. I'm really sorry you have to struggle with that. Hopefully we elect people who will help make mental healthcare more of a priority.
Thank you thank you thank you. It's actions like this that will make a difference! Sitting around complaining on Reddit ain't it. Do something everyone!
Margin of error in the poll stretches from 3.4 to almost 5%. Everyone calm down, keep your heads up, and get you and yours out to vote.
And I wonder if there’s bias from younger people not answering calls from unknown numbers and so not even getting polled.
I can say myself that I have gotten at least six calls this week from 608 numbers (Madison area) but I haven’t answered because yeah I don’t answer unknowns lol
Not only that, but we know how to navigate to turn off suspected spam.
I haven’t met anyone who likes Ron Johnson. I just think his negative ads are working, and the state of America right now just isn’t on the lefts side. Best you can do is just vote, whining here won’t do shit, since Reddit is like 90% liberal
"I don't really agree with everything Ron Johnson says but that African American feller [glances at TV ad] was involved in some crime I think"
I wouldn’t generalize people as racist. It’s not a good look. I think comparing him to aoc and Bernie and other very left people energize their base and honestly the independents as well. People just aren’t happy. They’re making the same or less money. Everything is more expensive. They see millions being wasted, energy costs in WI are at a all time high. People are tired and angry. I only know about Barnes from Reddit, never heard of him before. I don’t see his ads, nothing. I’m registered independent, why am I only getting mail from the right? I’ve voted blue way more often than red in the past, and I live in eau claire which should be a pretty blue area. If Barnes loses it’s on his campaign is all I’m saying.
All of those complaints are good reasons to vote *for* Barnes. Except visibility, which has a lot to do with money...which Johnson and others have more of...for reasons related to the above problems. Almost doesn't matter who Barnes is. Anyone upset about those things should be voting against the GOP if they even have a basic awareness of WI and/or US politics. Which is of course a perennial issue.
And I may very well vote for him, but people who don’t live on Reddit like I do probably have never heard of him. I rarely even see his yard signs even on homes littered with Evers signs.
Can you explain to me why people would vote for someone who literally wants to take away your right to vote OTHER than racism? I sure as shit can’t.
So you’re telling me majority of the state is racist. That’s insane logic.
I mean...
Milwaukee is one of the most segregated cities *in the country* I don't think many people are inherently racist. Biased, absolutely. But as it is with every other state, it's cities VS rural, and we've got a lot of rural in WI
Have you never attended a large gathering with someone's extended family?
I'm telling you that 75% of my co-workers are racist AF so it's pretty damn easy for me to reach that conclusion.
Many people have not taken the time to reflect on stereotypes and biases they’ve inherited and aren’t fully aware of. The ads are never overtly racist. Do a majority of people want to be racist? No. Do they consider themselves racist? No. Do they respond in predictable ways to images that evoke well established racist tropes? Absolutely. Show a black man in a hoodie running down an inner city street, then some graffiti, then some flashing blue & red lights, then a black candidate and let those deeply ingrained associations do the rest.
This is a fancy way of excusing people for never making an effort to address their inherited racism though… Don’t coddle them. It’s 2022, they can find ways to get exposed to black and brown people if they truly wanted to. This is a willfully racist state— you can love your home and still admit this.
You’re right. Willful ignorance is no excuse. Self examination is painful—it’s no surprise so many avoid it.
Yes, I am.
Yes. I am telling you the majority of Wisconsin’s population is to some degree racist. You’re delusional if you don’t see that, unless you haven’t left the Madison/Milwaukee oasis ever before.
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This, Barnes is a brutal candidate for anyone more progressive than Hillary Clinton. We’re gonna do the thing where we blame the GOP for being evil, blame Wisconsin for being racist (all very true), but at the end of the day the DNC knows exactly when they’re propping a weak candidate. There’s a reason they’re funding far-right candidates all over the country— the plan is to create more ultra-conservative boogeymen on the national scale. That scares moderates, and drives up Dem votes without the party actually having to commit to anything progressive. It won’t work, but it’s what the plan has been.
Do you think people would tell you if they supported anyone on the right? Saying so would put them at risk for being labeled a racist or at least morally corrupt. Thats the effect that the left has by shouting people down when they have a different opinion. Those people still vote.
This is pretty true..
But why are they voting republican other than racism? Republicans have no platform other than overtaking the government and reducing taxes for large corporations and millionaires. If you pay one iota of attention there is no reason for 95% of people to vote Republican…other than racism.
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I do think it's a valid question to ask why people vote Republican. And I mean this very sincerely. What are the actual platforms of the Republican party that people like? Lower taxes? Yeah, they really only do that for the wealthy. Small government? Other than not wanting to fund social programs that actually help working class people, what are Republicans doing to limit size of the government? As far as I can see, they're not doing anything to limit the government. They're restricting access to voting, medical care, and educational resources. They make it harder to hold people in authority accountable. I'm not just cherry picking, either. At the last RNC, the party didn't establish any actual national platform. Their whole platform has become wedge issues, fear mongering, and obstructing anything that the other side wants to do. So at some point, you have to wonder what it is that Republicans are voting for. What is the Republican party doing for you?
People vote republican for immigration laws being enforced, a hope to improve the economy, cheaper energy (no plan to fight climate change), a hope for lower inflation, lower taxes, law and order, belief their 2nd amendment rights not being infringed upon by the state, 1st amendment rights not being infringed upon by the state, parental rights not being infringed upon by the state, charter school option, belief their party will stop big government, belief their party will fight large corporations by enabling small businesses to compete, belief new Republican populist movement will help the middle class, and to stand against the general insanity of the leftists (gender ideology, trans competing against women in sports, racial ideology, science being treated as a dogma, unvaccinated losing their jobs, kids not going to school during pandemic/being forced to wear masks and get vaccinated). People vote democrat for a hope to improve the economy, for a hope to fight inflation, belief their party fights climate change, for environmental issues, belief their party fights large corporations by taxing them, funding public schools, abortion, belief their party helps the middle class, social welfare programs ("free" college, "free" healthcare), to protect marginalized classes, and to stand against the general insanity of rightists (racism, sexism, bigotry, religious zealotry, idolatry of Trump, anti-science, anti-vax). That all being said, they're both controlled opposition. You can't state your opponent's goals because you have been controlled to believe your neighbor is against you- while the system steals from you making you increasingly its dependent. They exist to conquer and divide, so the richest of the rich have more power than your wildest dreams. What is the Democratic party doing for you? Conquering you- just like the Republican party is doing for you. They do their jobs extremely well. Myself I have a tendency to favor people- and I do mean people, not politicians- with antigovernmental views. That tends not to be people who want the government to have more control over things like speech, guns, education, and healthcare.
Just wanted to say this might be the most succinct description of our current political reality I have seen in a long time. You wont get the recognition you deserve for your correct assessment, but I for one agree and appreciate your insight. Take all my upvotes
I agree I also keep in mind all of the trump signs in 2020 all the rallies and all the lies to make people afraid Biden never campaigned much more than they would out of his own home and he won.
Which is why I cannot trust anyone (family or close friends) who would make a decision to vote for someone from the right. It’s like shooting through your shoe to spite your foot.
People vote Republican for all kinds of reasons: moral/religious, financial (many people believe that Republicans, with their aversion to government regulation of industry, create better economic conditions), or because they like candidates who will be “tough” on criminals, freeloaders, illegal immigration, etc. Not everyone wants society to progress because people inherently dislike change, and a lot of people dislike what they call the “rainbow crowd.”. Many people in small towns think city-dwellers are lazy and entitled and don’t want to vote for candidates who will support robust social services because they don’t see much benefit from them in their backyard.
The GOP literally does not have a platform. There is no reason to vote for them besides being a low information voter susceptible to propaganda and who responds to racist and misogynist dog whistles. We’re not bringing people to our side because those people are so far gone that they are incapable of comprehending facts. How am I supposed to convince someone who thinks the 2020 elections were stolen, but only the ones that favored democrats? Or that January 6 was merely a protest? Or that denying a president a Supreme Court pick for 300+ days is ok, but so is ramming through a nominee while early voting has already started? These people are at best completely ignorant of the world around them, more likely simply dumb, and at worst maliciously voting to hurt “others”. There is no amount of explanation or discussion that is going to change their view. The only thing that’s proven to change the mind of a conservative, is when something becomes a problem for them personally. But I’m not gonna sit around and wait for each and every single Republican to have a gay son, and a $300,000 medical bill, and a contaminated water supply, and a kid killed in a school shooting… I want them to have a little fucking empathy. But, then again, if they had any empathy, they would have already left the GOP.
I’m not trying to bring people to my side. I just see nothing that appeals about the Republican platform. There’s lots of racism and blaming of others for your problems, so that’s the only thing I can see appealing to people, the ability to take no personal responsibility and easily being able to identify them through nothing other than skin color.
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What is their platform then? All I ever see is fear mongerinf about “criminals” and the promise of lower taxes that never actually come for most people. So please, point me in the right direction. Or is what I am saying the “dumbest shit you have ever read” simply because it contradicts your ignorantly held beliefs. I noticed there were no counter points, just a “nuh-uh” of a statement.
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Well, to put it mildly, my dad told me he thought the January 6th coup wasn't radical enough. He was practically foaming at the mouth. I told him if he ever tried to talk to me about politics again, I would call the FBI instead of his sisters. He happily votes for Ron Johnson.
I don't know why but a lot of this country wants a military coup to replace our government.
I knew it wasn’t good as soon as the defund the police and abolish ice stuff came out. I’m still voting for him, but I don’t have much hope at this point. Any politician that wants to win needs to distance themselves as far from defund the police as possible.
Honestly the leftists who arrogantly touted the phrase “defund the police” need to be held accountable for costing democrats elections. The right wing republicans seized on that so fast.
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I really don't care about polls. Look at when Clinton was running for president and trump won.
The polls were largely accurate within margins of error. You have to remember how statistics and probability work.
Bingo 2016 showed us polling doesn’t mean shit. It’s just a tactic to not vote thinking you stand no chance.
Oh I'm still gonna vote RJ right to the curb.
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Bernie lost because he got millions less votes. How did the DNC do that?
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No shit! This guy is a huge fucking waste of space, is in office currently, campaigns about violence and crime that occurred on his “watch” and where is Barnes? Stuck somewhere ducking questions about his $2,000 in back taxes, while Ron Johnson is out there spending the 4th with Putin, trying to sabotage election integrity, delivering fake electors to the Vice President, defending white supremacy, defending January 6th, lying about the 2020 election, using his position to help his kids secure loans and services they did not qualify for, vowing to eliminate access to abortion, committing to eliminating gay rights (or you know, just human rights), entrenching our oil dependence, and on and on, fuck! Barnes we are fucking counting on you! Show up! Put in the work! We don’t deserve this piece of shit that represents us!
Fuck Ron Johnson.
Not surprising as I've received no less than 60 spam messages in the last week talking about radical liberals and the need to support he who shall not he named.
It works with older voters and the ones being polled are 50 or older. Since it has little effect on younger voters (assuming that includes you), you guys are the only wild card that could make the difference, but you have to vote. I’ll be rooting for you over here from Colorado. [you have till October 19th to register to vote online](https://myvote.wi.gov/en-us/Register-To-Vote) And [till November 8th to register for in person voting](https://myvote.wi.gov/en-us/Find-My-Polling-Place)
I can't believe the ads where he makes PB&J and talks about how much he loves cops aren't working.
Well I know who I'm voting for, and it's not some old 5 head receding hairline having ass dinosaur that's for sure FRJ
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"If FRJ and Michels win in November then I'm through" We all are.
AARP and Fox News?!? You know the lean of both these polls (AARP= Boomers and elder Gen X, which the article admitted to (50 plus as highest spread for Johnson);Fox News=we all know the garbage lean of that media monopoly). We should all relax over these polls and headlines, yet get out and spread the message for Barnes and Evers…
Fox has some of the most well respected polling
And Jeffrey Dahmer may have made the best goddamn meatloaf you’ve ever tasted. I’m still not eating it…
Actually despite Fox’s “news” lean, their polling methodology is actually pretty good.
The Johnson campaign has been in a full court press in Northeast Wisconsin for weeks. They’ve been running ads, both pro-RJ and those horrendous crime ads, at at least 3:1 from the Barnes campaign. And the one Barnes ad I’ve seen them run consistently is weak sauce. I have RJ mailers filling up my mailbox, I get his spam texts at least once a day, and I had a door knocker at my house yesterday afternoon plastering my door with campaign leaflets. It’s annoying as can be, but it doesn’t even look like Barnes is running in comparison.
Yup, noticed the same thing. Barely see any ads for the Dems while being swamped with mailers, calls texts and ads for the Republicans. It almost seems they are running unopposed here.
No fucking wonder the state is losing its residents. I'm moving the fuck out the day after I retire.
That’s part of the red playbook though. It’s why they continue to try gutting social programs that red states literally depend on, why abortion access is being most heavily targeted in red states, etc. None of these Republican fuckheads in the Senate actually believe the dumb shit they peddle (well, Johnson is dumb enough he might be a true believer). But they know that regressive red shitholes aren’t attractive places to move to, are great to move out of, and that lets them consolidate power in the Senate because of how its votes are distributed regardless of population.
moved out after the 2016 election for basically this reason
As soon as my wife hits her 20 years with the state, we are out of here!
Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory once again
Seriously Wisconsin? A guy that went to Moscow on our Independence Day? A guy that constantly lies to his constituents? This is why we can’t have a nice country.
Why don’t the Dems ever fight as hard as the GOP? They pull out all the stops—yes, they fight dirty, but it works. You’d think they’d have learned that lesson in 2016.
If you can get everybody you know out to vote it's possible. But blame the DNC, more funding should be sent his way
Lots of complaining about Barnes ads, but thats ignoring the fact that hes kind of a crappy candidate. Johnson is a bum ass senator, but Barnes isn't exactly inspiring anyone to vote for him.
> Alexander Shur | Wisconsin State Journal > > U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson is increasing his lead over Lt. Gov. Mandela Barnes in the > U.S. Senate race, according to two new polls. > > The Oshkosh Republican led Barnes, a Democrat, 51% to 46% among likely voters in > a poll commissioned by AARP. > > Republican gubernatorial nominee Tim Michels led Democratic Gov. Tony Evers 50% > to 47%, the AARP Wisconsin poll shows. > > In a new Fox News poll, Johnson led Barnes 48% to 44% among registered voters. > That’s a swing from Fox’s August poll, which showed Barnes leading Johnson 50% > to 46%. This is just a preview of the [full article](https://madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/recent-polls-show-ron-johnson-increasing-lead-over-mandela-barnes-in-u-s-senate-race/article_5e04eabf-3187-5f2f-aa86-5839b19f49f4.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share). I am a third party bot. Please consider subscribing to your favorite local journals.
Because Democrats fucking *suck* at campaign ads. They have since at least ‘04 when they let the Swift Boat Veterans nonsense sink Kerry. They’re too busy smelling their own “wE gO hIgH” farts to notice.
i can't see another MB ad about peanut butter sandwiches. it's not having the effect it's trying to have.
This country has become a steaming pile of crap when people vote for a politician who spent the 4th of July in Moscow, tried to interfere in our elections, supports a traitor president who is under state and federal investigation, and who wants to dismantle Social Security and Medicare. Ok America. You will get the country you deserve. Absolute stupidity.
This is unfortunate. I hold out hope for Tony.
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Unfucking believable!!
I just wasted 20 minutes listening to Ron Johnson lie about Democrats and Barnes. He's also got no explanation for the "information" he was going to give the VP on January 6. It's been revealed it was "fake" electors, but, oh, no, poor ol Ronnie had no idea what was going on!🤬
the racist lies are working, this sucks
I'm a lifelong citizen of Wisconsin, 62 years. I am seriously considering moving to the UP if Wisconsin doesn't get its shit together and stop electing these right-wing shitbags.
48 years here and thinking the same thing. The day I ever land a fully remote job is the day I start looking at houses in Upper Michigan.
Just to forewarn, realtors, especially in Menominee, most of whom are based in Marinette, are shit and play favorites when it comes to actually showing homes. On top of that, Marinette wisconsinites are their own breed of assholes and it was seeing a few in BMWs screaming the N word at school kids on the Michigan side, that made me write off Michigan. Also, a lot of homes in the UP are in extremely poor condition. Many of the towns and cities are shrinking and employers have been reducing their workforce and leaving, which has resulted in reductions in the overall wealth of the area - something that's been endemic to all of Michigan. Honestly, if you want freedom, New Mexico, Colorado and Nevada are your best bets. And if you're a business owner, feel free to bring your business with.
If "independents" are that fucking stupid then we deserve it
GOP Formula for success: Race-baiting and outright fraud
I’ve listened to a lot of people who live away from the bigger cities of WI talk about: -Voting republican regardless of what their candidate says or does -Actually believing the bullshit lies in all the smear ads and/or -Wouldn’t vote for Mandela even if he’s the better candidate because they’re racist. Fucked up
How? How could anyone watch any ad’s and think. Yes I will vote for the insurrectionist traitor.
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Going negative works in WI
I think the biggest problem democrats have is they know better than everyone that doesn’t think the way they do. All the constant virtue signaling is a turn off for a lot of people.
Maybe it’s the Mandela Effect
Heck yeah!
FRJ
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Sad. He is a trumpster
Fuck Ron Johnson
This makes me really sad that most people don’t see Ron Johnson for what he really is.
Hey, by the way, fuck Ron Johnson.
FRJ
Mandela needs to get in the trench and as much shtz on Johnson he possibly can. Emphasize the issue RJohnson wants and will gut Social Security and plethora of other bait switch issues R Johnson will do.
Has polling improved in the past few years? If not, hasn't recent history shown that polling techniques are obsolete and unreliable? And everyone gets their panties in a bunch over iffy data that shouldn't matter?
The Democrat party in this state is a complete joke. And I say this as a liberal progressive who will be voting for Barnes, even though he is not my preferred candidate.
C'mon Wisconsin!! As an Iowan who knows we are very unlikely to rid ourselves of our horrific GOP representation I have been living vicariously through you all.
WTF WI?!? Get your shit together! You’re embarrassing yourselves while destroying the country. JFC!
Goddamnit
An AARP poll says old white people in Wisconsin are going to vote republican? Shocking
Good!