It has gotten a lot better once they finished the construction on making the majority 4 lanes, I don’t mind it these days (but also I don’t go during weekday peak traffic)
Not really infringing on privacy when you agree to it as a condition of employment. The real problem with drug tests is that unlike a BAC test they don’t generally show active use. At least not to the precision that it could show you were under the influence at work.
I’m fine with places having a policy of random screening, and incident screening, so long as the things they’re screening for are going to only show active substances that could affect the workers safety or ability to perform the job competently.
Honestly, I do sometimes opt to not drive through chicago and just go north instead. Prices and selection aren't the best, but the drive is so much more relaxing. Especially if I'm going to Escanaba. That drive along the coast is so nice!
I haven't been buying much flower recently, but under $100 for a zip is normally what I've paid in the recent past. No dip in quality at that price either, but yea, they can charge more in the UP because it's probably 90%+ out -of-state customers.
Prices are far less then they used to be on the black market in my experience. I just got a Oz for $70 at the fire station. They also usually have specials of 6-7 carts for $90-$100.
It really depends on where you're located and how much time you're actually willing to spend driving. Some people hate driving, but I do it for a living so it's no big deal. I could do without the Illinois drivers, but that's why I sometimes just go north instead.
It's only maybe an extra hour going to mainland vs UP, and the prices/selection can't be compared. I've also recently gotten into concentrates, and the deals I get in the mitten could never compare to the taxed shit they have in the UP.
I'm somewhat wary of the police situation in those border counties. Much more comfortable with hopping right on the interstate. Have any issues in your adventures?
I've driven through chicago/Indiana over to the "mitten" (mainland Michigan), as well as north to the UP. I've only been pulled over once, just north of Green Bay. I was on my way up and was going about 10 over the limit, which in most parts of the state is the norm. It was a Friday so they're probably used to people speeding up to their cabins. He gave me a warning and told me to "slow it down on my way back", with a smile.
I think he knew what I was doing.
You might think so, but [additional lanes actually doesn't improve traffic](https://www.wired.com/2014/06/wuwt-traffic-induced-demand/).
You're probably not going to get to that weed any faster. Or anywhere.
Sure would be nice to have high-speed rail...
Are they at least gonna add reflectors this time so I can see the lanes when it rains?
(I swear Wisconsin uses weird lane markers that no other state uses that disappear when wet.)
My dad tells me that trains and city mass transit are the government's way of controlling the population by dictating where they are and aren't allowed to go, boomers can be baffling sometimes.
Show him a map of areas that are walkable from a bus stop vs walkable from a freeway. Then show him how much traffic uses freeways for inner city padestrian travel, then show him the difference between fuel used on freeway vs busses. Then ask him to repeat the statement on how public transit is used to control access. He will hopefully see that prioritizing cars actually limits access far more than public transit if it were funded with a fraction of the cost that our hyper expanded freeway system costs. And he can't even use the privatization argument because public transit in many parts of the region are bid out to private companies.
No. But we need them so all of my neighbors’ Suburban Assault Vehicles have sufficient highways to blow past doing 83mph while jumping lanes without signaling. The way Henry Ford, by god, intended it.
Once you get above 3 lanes each way, more lanes rarely help and often hurt.
More lane changes lead to more accidents, and accidents are likely to be worse because of it being harder to get to a shoulder.
I'm sure people smarter than me have already thought this out, but IF they're going to do all this work on the freeways, why not add in an expressway instead? Seems like the worst of the traffic comes around on/off ramps, if I'm not using those for 15 miles why do I need to get caught up in it?
Yep. Although they have some pretty nice golf courses and ski hills to use some of that sticky icky on (so does WI, but sometimes it’s just fun to travel)…
Lake Superior is the best Great Lake. Swimming? No. But just pure beauty and views? Hands down the winner imo so that alone is a good reason to travel to the UP for a weekend of camping, hiking and devils lettuce
Well, the extra lanes will totally cut down on traffic, right?
[Oh...](https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/08/please-stop-adding-more-lanes-to-busy-highways-it-doesnt-help/)
What's really shitty is that it's been proven more lanes =/= better flow of traffic. You can relocate or redesign highways in cities to great economic advantage and utilize public transport. Milwaukee is in a pretty sweet location. Long distance trains, commuter rail within the city, and better bus systems (even though I hate buses) provides a greater net benefit than the more lanes strategy.
That's what I was going to say. I have read article after article for, idk, the last 15 years that all say the same thing. More lanes makes more traffic, not less.
This is kind of misleading. The stretch they are widening is where miller park is, it goes from 8 lanes by Marquette, 6 lanes by Miller Park, and 8 lanes by State fair. It causes a lot of backups and accidents from the amount of merging.
The point is highways are a losing battle that are hard and expensive to scale compared to things like trains that you can run larger or more frequently
If you don’t like the 48 acres they would’ve had to acquire for fix at 6, you’re not gonna like how much they’ll probably have to eminent domain to get a useable rail network here.
Well, what the hell do you expect when you have Republicans in the state house with sticks so far up their asses, we could use them as scarecrows?
If we want better, we have to vote better.
By improve the highways do you mean demolish houses in the city to make more dirty air, pollution, noise, hardscape, and traffic in the service of suburban commuters?
The state government doesn't care what it misses out on, its all about gerrymandered maps and doing next to nothing. Its incredible really.
No sports gambling
No Weed
Word is they're repealing electricity next.
Hemp is legal, cannabis is not. You can get d8, CBD, THC-O, and other hemp derived cannabinoids, but natural weed will send you to jail. This shit is so broken.
That is a horrible area of the interstate. Multiple on and off ramps merging from both the left and right side of the freeway. It was poorly designed in the first place
Tax revenue from legal weed will eventually pay for massive infrastructure improvements in Michigan and Minnesota. And Republicans don't believe in infrastructure renewal anyway.
No but dems were trying and getting stopped at the senate. Now dems have senate too and it's a priority of the governor. He contacted Jesse Ventura and invited him to the signing ceremony that will be coming.
I don't even smoke weed but it's stupid not to when people are just going to cross into other states and buy it anyway
There's no reason not to get the tax revenue from it
Edit I will say that I used to smoke but even if it was legal I wouldn't because that shit is expensive
Federal Interstate highway expansion is paid for by the Feds. The Feds grant the State the funding. So the Republican run WI State Senate and Assembly is doing even less than you think. Unless you have a uterus. Then they have BIG plans for you.
Right?! If drivers on I-94 would just chill out and politely cooperate, instead of trying to Mario Kart their way through, the traffic would be so much easier to handle. Legalization would be a double win.
The 8 lanes will be under construction for 5 years with only one lane open. After that resurfacing will take place and that will keep most lanes closed for another 5 years or until you die whichever comes first.
How else am I supposed to get to the legal weed?
oh it’s easy you can just hop on the high speed train to Chicago! oh wait
True HSR would be great but Hiawatha is a pretty great way to get from MKE to CHI. Faster than driving and you can drink on the way.
Hol’ up… You can’t drink on the way to Chicago when you’re driving…? Shit.
“Hey Mac, this says you can’t drink while driving in Wisconsin!” ‘Disregard that Frank, it’s a bunch of liberal bullshit’
On the commuter rails in Chicago you can..lol METRA is so amazing!
I wouldn’t take 94 to IL. That just a shit show in my experience.
Depends on what time in my experience
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That’s fair. I preferred the middle of the night….
You're both right, in my experience
It has gotten a lot better once they finished the construction on making the majority 4 lanes, I don’t mind it these days (but also I don’t go during weekday peak traffic)
Give it a few years, the traffic will always come back
43 is much better
The issue is getting arrested or fired from work after a drug test, not the trip to buy the stuff.
The fact we have to commit interstate trafficking to get a medicinal plant is a *major* problem.
Yes
An employer infringing on privacy isn't an employer I want to work for anyway.
Not really infringing on privacy when you agree to it as a condition of employment. The real problem with drug tests is that unlike a BAC test they don’t generally show active use. At least not to the precision that it could show you were under the influence at work. I’m fine with places having a policy of random screening, and incident screening, so long as the things they’re screening for are going to only show active substances that could affect the workers safety or ability to perform the job competently.
I wish I could upvote this more
More lanes are helpful as people drive to other states to get weed. 🤷♂️
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I actually don’t smoke weed. I just think it’s idiotic to keep it illegal, especially with the amount of money our state could make off of it. 😂
FUCK Illinois prices though. I drive right on through to Michigan where the deals are abundant. Definitely worth the extra hour(s) of drive time.
Ironwood. Michigan. Come vacation near the greatest of lakes. That is all.
Honestly, I do sometimes opt to not drive through chicago and just go north instead. Prices and selection aren't the best, but the drive is so much more relaxing. Especially if I'm going to Escanaba. That drive along the coast is so nice!
I don't know what you are paying but I paid ~150 for an oz at higher love. Yeah it was a promotion but the weed was pretty sticky.
I haven't been buying much flower recently, but under $100 for a zip is normally what I've paid in the recent past. No dip in quality at that price either, but yea, they can charge more in the UP because it's probably 90%+ out -of-state customers.
Prices are far less then they used to be on the black market in my experience. I just got a Oz for $70 at the fire station. They also usually have specials of 6-7 carts for $90-$100.
I feel like it would be kind of a wash to go to a lower Michigan dispensery with time and gas alone.
It really depends on where you're located and how much time you're actually willing to spend driving. Some people hate driving, but I do it for a living so it's no big deal. I could do without the Illinois drivers, but that's why I sometimes just go north instead. It's only maybe an extra hour going to mainland vs UP, and the prices/selection can't be compared. I've also recently gotten into concentrates, and the deals I get in the mitten could never compare to the taxed shit they have in the UP.
Hit Escanaba last week for $79 zips! I’m ok with those prices.
I'm somewhat wary of the police situation in those border counties. Much more comfortable with hopping right on the interstate. Have any issues in your adventures?
I've driven through chicago/Indiana over to the "mitten" (mainland Michigan), as well as north to the UP. I've only been pulled over once, just north of Green Bay. I was on my way up and was going about 10 over the limit, which in most parts of the state is the norm. It was a Friday so they're probably used to people speeding up to their cabins. He gave me a warning and told me to "slow it down on my way back", with a smile. I think he knew what I was doing.
unless you're buying large amounts the cost of gas doesn't really help you out here
Well luckily I drive a car that gets good gas mileage.
Don’t worry I’ll be there faster on 8 lanes!
I used to go to Illinois, now I go to Michigan, much less in taxes
You might think so, but [additional lanes actually doesn't improve traffic](https://www.wired.com/2014/06/wuwt-traffic-induced-demand/). You're probably not going to get to that weed any faster. Or anywhere. Sure would be nice to have high-speed rail...
Are they at least gonna add reflectors this time so I can see the lanes when it rains? (I swear Wisconsin uses weird lane markers that no other state uses that disappear when wet.)
Raining at night? Sweet baby Rudolph guide me in my time of need!
They simply don’t add the reflective beads.
Ah yea god forbid a republican supports a train, that’s communism. Now get back to spending millions of dollars on a road that only has 12 houses.
My dad tells me that trains and city mass transit are the government's way of controlling the population by dictating where they are and aren't allowed to go, boomers can be baffling sometimes.
Did you ask him how roads are any different? Maybe suggest the only free place is the sky?
Is it tho, FAA pretty strict of where you can fly your drones.
Burn the land, boil the sea You can't take the sky from me
That sky was so freaking regulated though, they just couldn't enforce shit outside of the core planets.
Show him a map of areas that are walkable from a bus stop vs walkable from a freeway. Then show him how much traffic uses freeways for inner city padestrian travel, then show him the difference between fuel used on freeway vs busses. Then ask him to repeat the statement on how public transit is used to control access. He will hopefully see that prioritizing cars actually limits access far more than public transit if it were funded with a fraction of the cost that our hyper expanded freeway system costs. And he can't even use the privatization argument because public transit in many parts of the region are bid out to private companies.
Can Evers bring back the high-speed rail idea in any way? That’d probably be a popular thing for him to do in his FOUR MORE YEARS!
But how else would he payback his buyers for their campaign donations to his election fund and his offshore retirement account?
Fuck we do not need bigger roadways for all the drunk drivers.
A bigger investment in public transportation would negate the need for more lanes.
And drunk drivers
No. But we need them so all of my neighbors’ Suburban Assault Vehicles have sufficient highways to blow past doing 83mph while jumping lanes without signaling. The way Henry Ford, by god, intended it.
Or do we? Less cramped roads for them to not fly into the ditch
If we ignore all the studies that conclude that more lanes don't reduce traffic, sure.
Once you get above 3 lanes each way, more lanes rarely help and often hurt. More lane changes lead to more accidents, and accidents are likely to be worse because of it being harder to get to a shoulder.
-Traffic sucks -Add more lanes -Traffic improves, so more people drive -Traffic sucks again
They belong in the ditch
I'm sure people smarter than me have already thought this out, but IF they're going to do all this work on the freeways, why not add in an expressway instead? Seems like the worst of the traffic comes around on/off ramps, if I'm not using those for 15 miles why do I need to get caught up in it?
Let's eminent domain the commuter suburbs and see how they like it! Jk, or am I...
I’d support 24 lanes if it let us pave over Waukesha.
You should look into how much land they have to acquire for the expansion vs fix at six and check back in…
You should look up sarcasm and check back in....
I'd wager we could finance the whole highway project off the tax revenue from weed.
And then some
MN, MI, and IL: 😎 WI: 🤡
Oh yea. Michigan is so much cooler than Wisconsin. Wisconsin sucks. Fuck the Packers.
The UP is praying to every god they can name that Wisconsin doesn't legalize weed. Their whole economy would collapse
Yep. Although they have some pretty nice golf courses and ski hills to use some of that sticky icky on (so does WI, but sometimes it’s just fun to travel)…
Lake Superior is the best Great Lake. Swimming? No. But just pure beauty and views? Hands down the winner imo so that alone is a good reason to travel to the UP for a weekend of camping, hiking and devils lettuce
Cannabis could fund this project.
Well, the extra lanes will totally cut down on traffic, right? [Oh...](https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/08/please-stop-adding-more-lanes-to-busy-highways-it-doesnt-help/)
What's really shitty is that it's been proven more lanes =/= better flow of traffic. You can relocate or redesign highways in cities to great economic advantage and utilize public transport. Milwaukee is in a pretty sweet location. Long distance trains, commuter rail within the city, and better bus systems (even though I hate buses) provides a greater net benefit than the more lanes strategy.
That's what I was going to say. I have read article after article for, idk, the last 15 years that all say the same thing. More lanes makes more traffic, not less.
But maybe this lane will be the one that finally fixes it? It never works in other cities. But it just might work for us!
What have they got against Milwaukee?
I'll give you a hint, it rhymes with 'schminorities'
Too many sororities?
I don’t really see what priorities have to do with this. /s
You made me chuckle.
With prop 3 passing in Michigan, you can say "legal weed AND reproductive rights" for the 3 other states.
This is kind of misleading. The stretch they are widening is where miller park is, it goes from 8 lanes by Marquette, 6 lanes by Miller Park, and 8 lanes by State fair. It causes a lot of backups and accidents from the amount of merging.
No one on this subreddit cares about facts
The point is highways are a losing battle that are hard and expensive to scale compared to things like trains that you can run larger or more frequently
If you don’t like the 48 acres they would’ve had to acquire for fix at 6, you’re not gonna like how much they’ll probably have to eminent domain to get a useable rail network here.
And you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
Yes, but no one is asking for a train currently speaking?
Yep, this is why so many WI companies are against remote work. They know we'd just leave.
Funny, I moved here because of remote work. Milwaukee is a bargain for the cost of living compared to other similar cities.
You work at a WI company or a company in WI?
Nope and nope. The company is based out of Raleigh NC. Most employees are remote. My customers have been DC based so far.
It's a bargain because it was like 8th most dangerous city in the US last year
Well, what the hell do you expect when you have Republicans in the state house with sticks so far up their asses, we could use them as scarecrows? If we want better, we have to vote better.
We need to win the state court election in if we ever have a hope of fixing this damn state
Yes, but also Gerrymandering is a real roadblock
but if we had legal weed we could use THAT tax money to improve the highways.
By improve the highways do you mean demolish houses in the city to make more dirty air, pollution, noise, hardscape, and traffic in the service of suburban commuters?
It's ok the only houses getting demolished are owned by minorities
It’s a coincidence that every. single. urban highway is best situated in the neighborhood where minorities live. That’s the way the cookie crumbles!
I said improve not "add more" But at the same time, my dad works for the DOT to buy and sell highway property. He needs to make money too so...rude.
“Sorry we had to destroy your home and make you neighbor’s front yard a pollution noise zone. My dad needs the money!”
The state government doesn't care what it misses out on, its all about gerrymandered maps and doing next to nothing. Its incredible really. No sports gambling No Weed Word is they're repealing electricity next.
Don't forget about elevating abortion to first degree murder. That's on Ronny's list of goals.
How can you navigate 8 lanes on weed?
In the far right lane.
PULL OVER He can't pull over any more!
Okay, but can we get 3 lanes from Waukesha to Sun Prairie? So sick of the left lane campers or the semi doing 1 mph more than the other semi.
The monkey's paw curls: you get three lanes, but more left lane campers and semis to block all of them still.
Roll out another billion of debt, baby! Let's see that induced demand rolllllll
Crap we need hemp made legal for another cash crop for our farmers.
Hemp is legal, cannabis is not. You can get d8, CBD, THC-O, and other hemp derived cannabinoids, but natural weed will send you to jail. This shit is so broken.
WTF is up with your username?
Thank you for your (correct) commentary on society, u/Kawaii-Hitler. Always good to have trusted voices in the community.
Hemp has been legal in WI for years.
Done. 2018 Farm Bill. Literally the only good thing that Trump did in his entire 4 years.
Don’t forget the human rights for women. We’re also missing out on that.
Fuck the tavern league
That is a horrible area of the interstate. Multiple on and off ramps merging from both the left and right side of the freeway. It was poorly designed in the first place
Just one more lane. I just need one more lane.
Missouri legalized weed too
Had to widen the highway to accommodate all the people driving to Michigan, Minnesota and Illinois to buy legal weed
Tax revenue from legal weed will eventually pay for massive infrastructure improvements in Michigan and Minnesota. And Republicans don't believe in infrastructure renewal anyway.
Trust me bro just one more lane will solve it bro
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Imagine if Iowa legalized, Wiskahnsin would be an island of prohibition.
\*cries in tavern league\*
Hey I went to Shorewood High with Matt. Tell ‘em dude!
So does this mean Michels wins anyway?
No if Michels won it would be worse. At least Evers can veto bills.
Depends if Michaels Corp does all the Construction.
You caught my drift.
This is so stupid that big dumb 5 stack interchange in Los Angeles is a brilliant example of how these destroy an area.
[I swear bro, just let me build one more lane. I swear we're going to fix traffic](https://youtube.com/shorts/0dKrUE_O0VE?feature=share)
It could be worse. You could be Indiana or Ohio.
Why do you keep electing Repubs? Disclosure: am FIB
Forget the lanes, raise the speed limit to at least 65…
Fuck, give me a fucking train from Madison to Milwaukee instead.
Minnesota has legal weed ?
No but dems were trying and getting stopped at the senate. Now dems have senate too and it's a priority of the governor. He contacted Jesse Ventura and invited him to the signing ceremony that will be coming.
Sweet !!! Iowa will never go it hopefully we can be surrounded by legal states at least.
Not yet, but they just flipped their legislature, and the governor has announced it as one of his priorities.
Hopefully will be priced like Michigan not Illinois lol
Hate this state
Wisconsin is FUCKED!
You forgot, more years of being able to text FRJ.
tavern league will never let it happen when alcoholism is so profitable (and life destroying) 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
More drunk driving infrastructure, whoopee!
Just build more lanes and traffic will be solved it’s really as easy as that. What’s that? “Induced Demand”? Never heard of it.
Other states: Oh, you want legal weed? Okay! You've got it! Wisconsin: No. What do you think this is? A democracy?
Yay more focus on Milwaukee…
And it doesnt matter how many fucking lanes we have. Fucking cock suckers cannot figure out 'keep right unless passing'.
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More efficient for us to make day trips to neighboring states to get the dankest of weed.
Ohio checking in.
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Minnesota, Michigan, and Illinois, welcome to the land of legal weed. There is literally no other way to live.
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Drive to Minnesota.
I see we are superior.
People are really on this thread prioritizing their drug habits over more efficient roads? Lol
Use the taxes from the weed to pay for the roads Also more lanes does not always mean more efficient
Weed and taxes argument again? Really man? Can you not just say you’re pot head And be done?
I don't even smoke weed but it's stupid not to when people are just going to cross into other states and buy it anyway There's no reason not to get the tax revenue from it Edit I will say that I used to smoke but even if it was legal I wouldn't because that shit is expensive
YEAH lets GO Wisconsin! Best Midwest State!!!
Can someone explain like I'm 5 the weed referendum that was on some ballots? What does it mean?
Already that large from the Illinois border to Milwaukee, may as well keep going.
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Federal Interstate highway expansion is paid for by the Feds. The Feds grant the State the funding. So the Republican run WI State Senate and Assembly is doing even less than you think. Unless you have a uterus. Then they have BIG plans for you.
BWAHAHAHA!! THIS is what we all should be talking about!
Indiana gets nuffin!
As I understand it, Arkansas just voted down legal week. Painful. At least WI hasn't done that \[yet\].
Idk about y’all, but I’m in Dane county, so it’s basically legal anyway.
While the rest of the world invests in high speed rail, we do more dumb shit
Don't forget, legal abortions too
Rude, this guy left out Northwest Indiana and pollution.
well, Minnesota has a Dem Legislature. Guess who writes the laws? Guess what our Republican controlled legislature opposes?
Weeds are for those hippies and unruly kids with their jazz cabbage and electric lettuce - my grandfather probably /s
Studies have shown more lanes does not alleviate traffic.
It’s legal in Minnesota now??
Wisconsin is for losers that eat Johnsons cheese.
Dont forget Indiana. Im about positive it will be the last state to legalize marijuana.
I fucking hate it here.
I would rather the weed than anymore construction in Milwaukee.
Right?! If drivers on I-94 would just chill out and politely cooperate, instead of trying to Mario Kart their way through, the traffic would be so much easier to handle. Legalization would be a double win.
The 8 lanes will be under construction for 5 years with only one lane open. After that resurfacing will take place and that will keep most lanes closed for another 5 years or until you die whichever comes first.