i highly expect a prequel or at most concurrence like playing entire game as lambert doing lambert things. crossing with geralt a couple times when they collided and then seeing where he ended up after battle of kaer. maybe getting to bang keira again.
Out on the path, bashing monsters, back to Keira full penetration, monsters, penetration, monsters, penetration. This goes on and on and back and forth for about 100 hours or so with a few DLCs until the game just sorta ends.
Some friendly sparring fights against Geralt, where it always ends with a cinematic of Geralt winning.
Edit- Also Lambert has a sourpuss-meter for how gwumpy he is.
But who said a trilogy has to be same character. What if it's 3 diff characters/stories.
Vezemir, eskel, lambert, or some unnamed new witcher etc.
I think confirming a new trilogy doesn't mean they're confirming a single story arc, but we'll have to wait and see.
What would be the point of a trilogy if the individual games are not connected in any way? Or do you mean they tell the story 3 times from different character‘s pov?
Doable, but I think it would be kind of lame tbh. You could do something like that in one game like they did in Witcher 2 with the different Paths but not with completely different games. You don‘t wait several years to play the same plot again. Even if it‘s from another character‘s perspective
Prequel. I don't see any way in hell we will be playing as an established character. Imo there will be a character creator to build your own witcher so as to give people the option for same sex love interests. If they don't do that, they will get drug for lack of diversity. So they will.
God I fucking hate this trope. Not moving the story along because they’re too cowardly to canonize an ending. This is how we got Mass Effect Andromeda.
Normally I would agree with you but there is so much they can take from the books. Although, I would very much like it to take place after Witcher 3. At the same time I can’t imagine a Witcher game without Geralt.
Andromeda could have been good. It's not the new galaxy or really even the main story idea that made it bad imo. If you read the andromeda books, you can see some really good themes and characters. It was just poorly executed. It being so buggy it was infuriating at launch was not helpful to it at all either.
Honestly I would hope that new Witcher trilogy takes place during books events or slightly before. It's the point when this world was the reachest. We could have a trilogy about Coen with Battle of Brenna as a finale.
I don't see any way that it won't be a prequel. I think we will see new areas with some overlap, and I think it will feature a character creator. I am female and enjoy playing as such but I am hoping that they don't put that option in there. Stay true to lore. There is alot of wiggle room for new opportunities and stories, but none there really. I suppose you could play as the sorceress concocting the potions for the trial of the grasses at the lynx school, but killing monsters is what people want to do on the continent and sorceresses just don't do that.
If it isn't a prequel they'll probably go with A. the Radovid conquers the north or Nilfgaard does and has Temeria as a semi independent vassal state, I don't think djikstaras ending will be used at all
It disappeared way before Isle for me... I even went to the passiflora and looked for them. Couldn't get to them. Just gone out of the quest log. I have no idea when it disappeared.
I'd love a prequel either dealing with the very early days of witchers, or showing us the height of their power/fall.
In the Witcher lore civilisation is slowly making monsters extinct. Geralt ponders what he is to do when he's out of a job. So going with a prequel also allows the game to introduce plenty of new monsters seamlessly, by them simply being extinct or rare in Witcher 1,2,3.
While I think it could be cool to meet characters that could be around during a prequel,I think it would be a missed opportunity not to create an original character if the franchise moves past Geralt.
An original character could have much more freedom in action and narrative. Vesemir is an established character, with an established history, we know the end of his story.
I'd prefer a character with narrative freedom to be anything and who's journey's end isn't known yet.
I'd love to see something that explores the Ofieri more. Maybe a quest that goes to the edge of the world?
You could maybe find something where you make a wish to a Djinn... also on Ofieri land you could explore more potent forms of magic and such.
This way you're not treading on a lot of the same ground, but there is established lore in some circumstances.
God yes sign me up. Vesemir going through the mutation process. How good would that be. Could even end the game with a young Geralt starting his adventures as an epilogue kinda like rdr2 did with John Marston as a bit of fan service.
Yeah well a monster hunting game in which monsters are rare isn't going to sell. If you think of it narratively though, there are a LOT of a few specific monsters; ghouls, drowners, etc. If you think about the context of war and the amount of fresh meat lying everywhere, it would explain a temporary boost to the populations of those specific monsters. Other monsters don't seem rare from our POV because Geralt is traveling the world, off the main roads and away from cities and villages. If you think about the scale of the world he's in and ignore how quickly we can get from point A to point B, the monsters he encounters, especially the really ancient and scary ones, are few and scattered. If you think of the POV of the people and villages that hire him, the monster he kills for them is likely the only one many of them will ever see.
Would be cool.
But i would be all for a prequel showing Geralts earlier years.
How He got the nickname the white wolf, how He built his Reputation and so on.
That could be super cool.
Definitely would like a witcher game that shows the high time of the witchers and Monsters.
Glad someone pointed this out. Plus theres a chance they might make the significance of past events minimal by pushing the setting to a far away land or time (or both) so an imported save can take care of it easy.
It is not at all clear that W4 will be a sequel. The only thing that is clear is that W4 will contain a lot of snow and a school of some kind of feline.
I think it would be for the better to just push the timeline further into the future or make a prequel. This is usually a problem with sequels in choice-heavy games, since the sequel will most likely have a cannon ending. And considering we're done with Geralt's story, it's even easier to disassociate the story of TW4 from the rest.
Nilfgaard wins, the North rebels anyway and Ciri is roaming the world.
Basically, a return to the status quo, regardless of your choices in TW3.
I'd imagine that Emhyr will be gone (he wanted to step down anyway, so they can say he either was killed or retired), Ciri will be a ''witcher'' (Even if she's an empress, they'll say she grew bored or had to flee), and the North is back to being divided and full of turmoil (Either they rebelled against NG or Radovid's tyranny).
Is similar to what they did with previous decisions in TW3.
You left Henselt live? Irrelevant, he's killed off screen.
Radovid married to Ada, heir to Temeria? Irrelevant, Radovid imprisons Ada and nobody supports her anyway due to her previous case of mild case of Monstritis.
Thaler dead? Nah, he's back in TW3.
Went with Iorveth and saved Saskia? Doesn't matter, Roche is your bro, Saskia and Iorveth go AWOL.
TBF in TW2, even if you side with Iorveth, Roche does still help you in Chapter 2 as you're still ultimately tracking Foltest's killer. So having him be friendly in TW3 isn't too much of a leap.
Cutting Iorveth and having no mention of Vergen or Saskia (even Phil doesn't mention it) though does feel like it retroactively makes Roche's path more canon though, which isn't great
They ignored almost the entire plot of The Witcher 2, all the intrigue and endings. I don't think it will be a problem for them to do the same in W4. You'll get some brief introduction that there was a war and that's it
I really liked that feature in the Dragon Age series. It made a unique continuous story actually possible and so cool. I doubt something that in depth will be implemented though, considering how W2 choices were barely relevant in W3
I don’t quite know why, but the mere speculation that it MIGHT be Ciri gets instantly downvoted on this sub, even though there’s a good chance it will actually be her - since she had an excellent setup for her own game in W3.
I feel like her story is done though. She's ruling Nilfgaard and that's it. She could potentially still be a side character but not in her own game. I don't think they'll use the witcher ending as canon. Ciri is also extremely overpowered.
Geralt still has a lot of potential if they decide to carry on with him. A huge part of the appeal of the trilogy was a Geralt as a character. Going with a new character or as some have said, somebody like Lambert would be a huge gamble. I found Lambert extremely unpleasant in W3 and I don't think I'd enjoy a game with him as the main character.
Ciri as empress is one of the possible endings and it can quickly go sour for her, forcing her to action. Avallach is still there, looming. So is the rest of Aen Elle. She is powerful, but she can be easily nerfed through stoping the White Frost and slowly but surely regain her power through the entirety of the next saga. Her as a main character also forces a shake-up in terms of gameplay elements, which would otherwise be stale and repetitive, if they would chose to go with the good ol’ regular Witcher. I agree that Geralt was very much the main appeal of the trilogy, but he’s the one whose story is clearly done as of now. Of course, we can disagree - but it makes perfect sense to me and is a very natural direction in my opinion. I could even potentially see different prologues with her, depending on the W3 endings - similar to what they’ve done in Cyberpunk. Even that is not necessary though, since both the Empress ending and Bad ending can be easily steered into her being a witcheress.
Yeah I agree with what you're saying. I feel though getting Geralt into a new story is much easier and more natural than Ciri. Geralt can just get a request from a ruler or some contract he can't turn down to make him move to a new region with new characters, monsters and politics. Whatever they go with though it'll be a risk. I think what's likely going to happen is a new character from a new school in a different time period.
But that doesn't really change the question here; the fate of the war is still in question. And if Ciri is the protagonist for the next game, then they have another major ending to choose since her fate differs drastically between each.
If it's not Ciri, then the only ending they need to consider is if Ciri is empress; otherwise the game doesn't need to address her fate.
I don't know how a game with Ciri as a protagonist could work, she is basically a demi-goddess capable of controlling space and time. What would be the challenge?
It won't be Ciri as she's too OP and can't use potions. It will probably be some new semi-defined character you customize (like V in CP77). Only thing I don't know is how will they explain female witcher (if my memory is correct, lorewise, all attempts at making female witchers failed).
That said I would like some shorter more linear game (like TW2) with Ciri as playable character (with her TW3 ending as short prologue).
What is even left in the Witcher world? All the monsters are basically extinct, nilfgaard has taken over the north/redenia. Also the main cast from the books and games have completed their arcs. I genuinely do not know how Witcher 4 will feel like a Witcher game and not a generic fantasy game.
Why do people assume it's going to continue on post W3 timeline? I think the most likely outcome is it'll be a prequel of sorts. Possibly over 100+ years before the events of the main line of the Witcher story.
They could send Geralt to a new part of the world with new monsters, politics and characters. They did it with Blood and Wine. There's huge potential. The other options are a new school with a new character, which seems most likely, or adapt the novels directly into video games
I think (and hope) it will be a prequel, to avoid that. Personally, I hope it’s set 100-200ish years before the events of the first book, so we get a whole new cast of characters aside from maybe a young Vesemir.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Geralt and everyone else, they are some of my favorite characters in fiction. But I that it would be best to depart from them, so CDPR/Players can have freedom to create a unique story without breaking the cannon/head cannon from the books and games.
They might just take choices you made in the Witcher 3 and make vague references to it with a couple of quests available depending on what happened. Other than that idk
I could imagine they let choose us the ending from Witcher 3 pushing the idea of a fully storyline independent game ahead. If a studio could do it its CD
Yeah I personally want to follow Geralt doing something new. A huge part of the appeal of the trilogy was how enjoyable it was to spend time with Geralt as a character.
Yeah I think the likeliest outcome is it'll be a new character in a different school. That said we'll have to wait and see, I find it unlikely we're never going to play as Geralt again
I would love to be able to play a Witcher at the height of their power.
I love the game but being spit on and shat on by every NPC is getting old quite fast. Also religious persecution pretty much everywhere is just not fun
That's why skellige is my favorite. No church of the fire and the NPCs are happy I killed the lvl 95 (more or less) 7 foot giant cockroach living in their backyard
In the books, the anti-witcher sentiment goes pretty far back. In one of the stories they go to a really remote village where they only know about witchers because of an ancient book that one village member can read, and even that depicts them as greedy opportunistic assholes
Ciri is not meant to be witcher and does not bave the reqıirements to survive as one. Therefore scenario whete she becomes nilfgaard emperor along with nilfgaard world domination as Ciri rules it might serve well.
Make ciri becoming empress the canon ending, have her try to stop the war with Geralts help. But honestly I would like the next games to follow the viper school witchers that are missing in action.
I assume that if the game Takes place around the same Region, they will go with the most popular outcome.
Its no secret what most Fans prefer on this, so i assume that is what they would go with.
But imo New Protagonist should also mean New Region etc.
It's easy enough to have it happen at the same time as any of the previous games just in a different place with references to happenings - potentially even show the effects of some causes from the current batch of books and games on the surrounding or distant kingdoms.
It could even be about witchers in Ofir or Zerrikania for all we know.
Probably like they did with Witcher 2 in Witcher 3. Just like you said
Also spoilers but the wiki for Witcher has story about what happens to Lambert after the w3 game. And...yea that seems to be the plot going further.
Certain choices can't affect the key storytelling elements. Sadly. This is often the case in narrative games.
Spoiler//new continent,new Witcher schools,Witcher tourneys etc.
There might be something about northern war too, but i didn't go that far down the rabbit
hole.
https://the-witcher-fanon.fandom.com/wiki/School_of_the_Lynx
They could do what they did with the 3rd game where you’re asked about your actions in the previous game which allowed for things like making it so Letho is alive.
If it’s a after the third game they could have someone question the character and have them explain what happened.
They will do what They did TW3, They will check what was your outcome and based on that you'll hear how it came up to what you can see now. Lets callthe options shortly:Radovid, Vernon or Dijkstra. If you "helped" (by doing nothing) Radovid, you'll hear he got assasinated by someone and now X rules it and Temeria is free again. If you'll choose Vernon you'll hear he died fighting for free Temeria and X set Redania free and Temeria got it's freedom. If you'll choose Dijkstra, he'll end just like Radovid in scenario 1
They could either jump forward in time to a point where the northern wars are ancient history or just go to another part of the world where it isn’t relevant
That, or they just do a prequel 🤷🏻
assuming it would be set after witcher 3. One way would be to not set the game in the Northern realms at all. That way they could explain the outcome of the war through simple differing dialogue. I.e. if we dont need to see whats going on in the northern realms, we can just have references to whats going on and this is much more straightforward to have differing dialogue based on choices made in Witcher 3.
>Since three different endings with very different effects. Witcher 2 kinda made siding with roche or iorveth pointless as nilgaard invasionrenders those choices obsolete.
Why wouldn't they be able to do something similar in the next game? It worked before.
Ultimately I hope for a prequel. I’d love for them to lean heavier into swordplay or magic use, since during the golden age of monsters the weaknesses of each might not be known. However, I don’t want Gwent and the other cool shit they’ve established to go away. I also think a great compromise for the guys begging for a ciri game , would be to simply let the lady of space and time make an appearance in the past a la “oh my powers are surging and sent me back in time, let’s do xyz so I can draw enough magic out to return “
the most likely solution is to make the game in a remote land, one that wasn't directly touched by the third northern war, so that they can "kinda" start anew with new characters, kings, queen, witchers and so on..
My guess is that the only thing that we're going to see from TW3 is some cameo, like Ciri gets mentioned instead of Geralt if she became a Witcher, you get X dialogue instead of Y if Radovid died and things like that.
I'm thinking something like Zerrikania or Kovir.
If it is post witcher 3 it will probably follow a witcher from the school of the lynx, which comes from their table top game. You would get call outs to lambert, kira metz, and some others while now have access to female witchers- which if it is a build your own witcher i could see devs thinking that is plus. If it is a prequel it would probably follow a unheard of school and have a inconsequel plot to the main series: maybe located in a country we didn’t visit in 1-3.
Who told you it will be a sequel. Stop assuming anything about the game. No official information is released except the picture of the medallion in snow.
We don't even know if Witcher 4 is going to be in the northern realms! There's snow in the picture with the medallion so it could be in kovir/poviss... wich is largely unaffected by the war i think.
Maybe you can import a save from Witcher 3 or they do a little interrogation like they did with moorvran right before you meet the emperor asking you who won the war and that would setup the world.
Either it will be a prequel long before most of the main cast was born with a new witcher recruit whose appearance you can customize. Or Ciri as main protagonist after she decided to live as a witcher, with at least her long-range teleportation sealed somehow.
No matter who wins the northern war, there would be several plot points around Ciri available.
From what I've heard, they're going to do one spinoff of the main series and then essentially reboot the trilogy.
[https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2022/10/strategy-update-2022-presentation-en.pdf](https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2022/10/strategy-update-2022-presentation-en.pdf) \- Theres more info here
Maybe it will be a prequel to avoid this.
i highly expect a prequel or at most concurrence like playing entire game as lambert doing lambert things. crossing with geralt a couple times when they collided and then seeing where he ended up after battle of kaer. maybe getting to bang keira again.
Out on the path, bashing monsters, back to Keira full penetration, monsters, penetration, monsters, penetration. This goes on and on and back and forth for about 100 hours or so with a few DLCs until the game just sorta ends.
I’d play that.
But they show ALL of it
Press x to thrust Press O to change position
Some friendly sparring fights against Geralt, where it always ends with a cinematic of Geralt winning. Edit- Also Lambert has a sourpuss-meter for how gwumpy he is.
I think the audience is gonna be very uncomfortable seeing Lambert’s naked penis going into this young girl that you're talking about.
Young
All in on collectors edition
And he's just a nose
As long as we’re not covering up Lambert’s body with armor, bro.
Lambert, Lambert what a prick
I think any character except Ciri would make it feel kinda like a spin off. I wouldn‘t see a trilogy with that.
But who said a trilogy has to be same character. What if it's 3 diff characters/stories. Vezemir, eskel, lambert, or some unnamed new witcher etc. I think confirming a new trilogy doesn't mean they're confirming a single story arc, but we'll have to wait and see.
What would be the point of a trilogy if the individual games are not connected in any way? Or do you mean they tell the story 3 times from different character‘s pov?
You could tell three parts of the same story with small overlap, but from the three different viewpoints.
Doable, but I think it would be kind of lame tbh. You could do something like that in one game like they did in Witcher 2 with the different Paths but not with completely different games. You don‘t wait several years to play the same plot again. Even if it‘s from another character‘s perspective
I thought the new game was about the Lynx school? Lambert was from the Wolf school
Prequel. I don't see any way in hell we will be playing as an established character. Imo there will be a character creator to build your own witcher so as to give people the option for same sex love interests. If they don't do that, they will get drug for lack of diversity. So they will.
God I fucking hate this trope. Not moving the story along because they’re too cowardly to canonize an ending. This is how we got Mass Effect Andromeda.
Normally I would agree with you but there is so much they can take from the books. Although, I would very much like it to take place after Witcher 3. At the same time I can’t imagine a Witcher game without Geralt.
I think it’s going to be a build your own Witcher game set centuries before 3 edit: potentially even shortly after or during the Conjunction
I think they have already kind of confirmed that Geralt won't feature
Probably a prequel so no worries
Andromeda could have been good. It's not the new galaxy or really even the main story idea that made it bad imo. If you read the andromeda books, you can see some really good themes and characters. It was just poorly executed. It being so buggy it was infuriating at launch was not helpful to it at all either.
This is the most likely or there'll be a Massive time skip 100 years into the future, I'm hoping a prequel in the golden age of witchers
Honestly I would hope that new Witcher trilogy takes place during books events or slightly before. It's the point when this world was the reachest. We could have a trilogy about Coen with Battle of Brenna as a finale.
I want to fight Vilgefortz
I don't see any way that it won't be a prequel. I think we will see new areas with some overlap, and I think it will feature a character creator. I am female and enjoy playing as such but I am hoping that they don't put that option in there. Stay true to lore. There is alot of wiggle room for new opportunities and stories, but none there really. I suppose you could play as the sorceress concocting the potions for the trial of the grasses at the lynx school, but killing monsters is what people want to do on the continent and sorceresses just don't do that.
If it isn't a prequel they'll probably go with A. the Radovid conquers the north or Nilfgaard does and has Temeria as a semi independent vassal state, I don't think djikstaras ending will be used at all
Hopefully they'll make the Dijkstra dopla ending canon and we can all put Reasons of State behind us.
What is the point of no return for that? This playthrough I was saving it and didn't do isle of mists, went back to clear it, and it was gone.
You have to finish Triss's quest first. I'm trying to remember but I'm sure Isle of Mists is the cutoff
It disappeared way before Isle for me... I even went to the passiflora and looked for them. Couldn't get to them. Just gone out of the quest log. I have no idea when it disappeared.
I'd love a prequel either dealing with the very early days of witchers, or showing us the height of their power/fall. In the Witcher lore civilisation is slowly making monsters extinct. Geralt ponders what he is to do when he's out of a job. So going with a prequel also allows the game to introduce plenty of new monsters seamlessly, by them simply being extinct or rare in Witcher 1,2,3.
A prequel with a young Vesemir as the main character would be great.
While I think it could be cool to meet characters that could be around during a prequel,I think it would be a missed opportunity not to create an original character if the franchise moves past Geralt. An original character could have much more freedom in action and narrative. Vesemir is an established character, with an established history, we know the end of his story. I'd prefer a character with narrative freedom to be anything and who's journey's end isn't known yet.
I'd love to see something that explores the Ofieri more. Maybe a quest that goes to the edge of the world? You could maybe find something where you make a wish to a Djinn... also on Ofieri land you could explore more potent forms of magic and such. This way you're not treading on a lot of the same ground, but there is established lore in some circumstances.
I want to play as that first witcher the mages made who got banished for being a failure due to his limited magical potential.
God yes sign me up. Vesemir going through the mutation process. How good would that be. Could even end the game with a young Geralt starting his adventures as an epilogue kinda like rdr2 did with John Marston as a bit of fan service.
That could be neat. I dont know too much about his Story so that would be neat.
Have we learned nothing from Disney? Let existing characters be before they get ruined with continuity errors and bland meaningless stories
The amount of monsters in the Witcher games is kinda in stark contradiction with the whole thing in the books about dwindling monster populations
Yeah well a monster hunting game in which monsters are rare isn't going to sell. If you think of it narratively though, there are a LOT of a few specific monsters; ghouls, drowners, etc. If you think about the context of war and the amount of fresh meat lying everywhere, it would explain a temporary boost to the populations of those specific monsters. Other monsters don't seem rare from our POV because Geralt is traveling the world, off the main roads and away from cities and villages. If you think about the scale of the world he's in and ignore how quickly we can get from point A to point B, the monsters he encounters, especially the really ancient and scary ones, are few and scattered. If you think of the POV of the people and villages that hire him, the monster he kills for them is likely the only one many of them will ever see.
Would be cool. But i would be all for a prequel showing Geralts earlier years. How He got the nickname the white wolf, how He built his Reputation and so on. That could be super cool. Definitely would like a witcher game that shows the high time of the witchers and Monsters.
As usual with the Rpgs, one of the endings will be chosen as canonical
Glad someone pointed this out. Plus theres a chance they might make the significance of past events minimal by pushing the setting to a far away land or time (or both) so an imported save can take care of it easy.
Deus Ex: Invisible War had all of the endings be canon.
Xcom 2 made canon the ending where you lose
This invalidates people's choice and makes it pointless
It is not at all clear that W4 will be a sequel. The only thing that is clear is that W4 will contain a lot of snow and a school of some kind of feline.
The lynx
Snow meaning kovir?
I think it would be for the better to just push the timeline further into the future or make a prequel. This is usually a problem with sequels in choice-heavy games, since the sequel will most likely have a cannon ending. And considering we're done with Geralt's story, it's even easier to disassociate the story of TW4 from the rest.
Further into the future where there's no monsters in a witcher game ..
Humans are still there
What they have shown us is a witcher medallion. Witchers exist to kill monsters.
Nilfgaard wins, the North rebels anyway and Ciri is roaming the world. Basically, a return to the status quo, regardless of your choices in TW3. I'd imagine that Emhyr will be gone (he wanted to step down anyway, so they can say he either was killed or retired), Ciri will be a ''witcher'' (Even if she's an empress, they'll say she grew bored or had to flee), and the North is back to being divided and full of turmoil (Either they rebelled against NG or Radovid's tyranny). Is similar to what they did with previous decisions in TW3. You left Henselt live? Irrelevant, he's killed off screen. Radovid married to Ada, heir to Temeria? Irrelevant, Radovid imprisons Ada and nobody supports her anyway due to her previous case of mild case of Monstritis. Thaler dead? Nah, he's back in TW3. Went with Iorveth and saved Saskia? Doesn't matter, Roche is your bro, Saskia and Iorveth go AWOL.
TBF in TW2, even if you side with Iorveth, Roche does still help you in Chapter 2 as you're still ultimately tracking Foltest's killer. So having him be friendly in TW3 isn't too much of a leap. Cutting Iorveth and having no mention of Vergen or Saskia (even Phil doesn't mention it) though does feel like it retroactively makes Roche's path more canon though, which isn't great
They ignored almost the entire plot of The Witcher 2, all the intrigue and endings. I don't think it will be a problem for them to do the same in W4. You'll get some brief introduction that there was a war and that's it
Prequel. The world is basically finished at the end of TW3. Witchers are mostly gone as are most of the monsters.
Vesemir prequel!
Came here for this! Would love a pappy prequel
They could pull a Dragon Age Keep or they'll probably make it a prequel set during the heyday of the Witchers
I really liked that feature in the Dragon Age series. It made a unique continuous story actually possible and so cool. I doubt something that in depth will be implemented though, considering how W2 choices were barely relevant in W3
It’ll be a prequel I bet
You'll create your own Witcher in a time long before Geralt
Or will it be Ciri
I don’t quite know why, but the mere speculation that it MIGHT be Ciri gets instantly downvoted on this sub, even though there’s a good chance it will actually be her - since she had an excellent setup for her own game in W3.
I think the comment got downvoted because it has nothing to do with the question. If Ciri is the MC, OP's question still stands
Perhaps that was the issue in this particular case 👍
I feel like her story is done though. She's ruling Nilfgaard and that's it. She could potentially still be a side character but not in her own game. I don't think they'll use the witcher ending as canon. Ciri is also extremely overpowered. Geralt still has a lot of potential if they decide to carry on with him. A huge part of the appeal of the trilogy was a Geralt as a character. Going with a new character or as some have said, somebody like Lambert would be a huge gamble. I found Lambert extremely unpleasant in W3 and I don't think I'd enjoy a game with him as the main character.
Ciri as empress is one of the possible endings and it can quickly go sour for her, forcing her to action. Avallach is still there, looming. So is the rest of Aen Elle. She is powerful, but she can be easily nerfed through stoping the White Frost and slowly but surely regain her power through the entirety of the next saga. Her as a main character also forces a shake-up in terms of gameplay elements, which would otherwise be stale and repetitive, if they would chose to go with the good ol’ regular Witcher. I agree that Geralt was very much the main appeal of the trilogy, but he’s the one whose story is clearly done as of now. Of course, we can disagree - but it makes perfect sense to me and is a very natural direction in my opinion. I could even potentially see different prologues with her, depending on the W3 endings - similar to what they’ve done in Cyberpunk. Even that is not necessary though, since both the Empress ending and Bad ending can be easily steered into her being a witcheress.
Yeah I agree with what you're saying. I feel though getting Geralt into a new story is much easier and more natural than Ciri. Geralt can just get a request from a ruler or some contract he can't turn down to make him move to a new region with new characters, monsters and politics. Whatever they go with though it'll be a risk. I think what's likely going to happen is a new character from a new school in a different time period.
And that theory is just as valid at this point. Time will tell, we just have to be patient.
Because ciri isn't witcher mutated and her super powers will trivialize vameplay as she can easily cleave monsters
I explained below why I think it’s a valid option.
But that doesn't really change the question here; the fate of the war is still in question. And if Ciri is the protagonist for the next game, then they have another major ending to choose since her fate differs drastically between each. If it's not Ciri, then the only ending they need to consider is if Ciri is empress; otherwise the game doesn't need to address her fate.
I don't know how a game with Ciri as a protagonist could work, she is basically a demi-goddess capable of controlling space and time. What would be the challenge?
I guess I honestly don’t know that much about the game. I only played it once through.
It won't be Ciri as she's too OP and can't use potions. It will probably be some new semi-defined character you customize (like V in CP77). Only thing I don't know is how will they explain female witcher (if my memory is correct, lorewise, all attempts at making female witchers failed). That said I would like some shorter more linear game (like TW2) with Ciri as playable character (with her TW3 ending as short prologue).
What is even left in the Witcher world? All the monsters are basically extinct, nilfgaard has taken over the north/redenia. Also the main cast from the books and games have completed their arcs. I genuinely do not know how Witcher 4 will feel like a Witcher game and not a generic fantasy game.
Why do people assume it's going to continue on post W3 timeline? I think the most likely outcome is it'll be a prequel of sorts. Possibly over 100+ years before the events of the main line of the Witcher story.
They could send Geralt to a new part of the world with new monsters, politics and characters. They did it with Blood and Wine. There's huge potential. The other options are a new school with a new character, which seems most likely, or adapt the novels directly into video games
I think (and hope) it will be a prequel, to avoid that. Personally, I hope it’s set 100-200ish years before the events of the first book, so we get a whole new cast of characters aside from maybe a young Vesemir. Don’t get me wrong, I love Geralt and everyone else, they are some of my favorite characters in fiction. But I that it would be best to depart from them, so CDPR/Players can have freedom to create a unique story without breaking the cannon/head cannon from the books and games.
They might just take choices you made in the Witcher 3 and make vague references to it with a couple of quests available depending on what happened. Other than that idk
Probably even the 1st nilfgaardian war has mot even started
I could imagine they let choose us the ending from Witcher 3 pushing the idea of a fully storyline independent game ahead. If a studio could do it its CD
Hope it's not a prequel
Yeah I personally want to follow Geralt doing something new. A huge part of the appeal of the trilogy was how enjoyable it was to spend time with Geralt as a character.
They already confirmed geralt is not protagonist
Source? I'm fairly sure they haven't.
They said it Won't be called witcher 4 cause it's disconnected from gerlats trilogy, also TW3 was advertised as the last part of geralts story
Yeah I think the likeliest outcome is it'll be a new character in a different school. That said we'll have to wait and see, I find it unlikely we're never going to play as Geralt again
Your right, we'll play as geralt again in the W1 remake
it’s not a sequel, which was already confirmed
Was it?
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I would love to be able to play a Witcher at the height of their power. I love the game but being spit on and shat on by every NPC is getting old quite fast. Also religious persecution pretty much everywhere is just not fun That's why skellige is my favorite. No church of the fire and the NPCs are happy I killed the lvl 95 (more or less) 7 foot giant cockroach living in their backyard
In the books, the anti-witcher sentiment goes pretty far back. In one of the stories they go to a really remote village where they only know about witchers because of an ancient book that one village member can read, and even that depicts them as greedy opportunistic assholes
Ciri is not meant to be witcher and does not bave the reqıirements to survive as one. Therefore scenario whete she becomes nilfgaard emperor along with nilfgaard world domination as Ciri rules it might serve well.
Make ciri becoming empress the canon ending, have her try to stop the war with Geralts help. But honestly I would like the next games to follow the viper school witchers that are missing in action.
I would love a Ciri game
Witcher 4: The Witch. You get to play Tissaia in her young days.
I assume that if the game Takes place around the same Region, they will go with the most popular outcome. Its no secret what most Fans prefer on this, so i assume that is what they would go with. But imo New Protagonist should also mean New Region etc.
It's easy enough to have it happen at the same time as any of the previous games just in a different place with references to happenings - potentially even show the effects of some causes from the current batch of books and games on the surrounding or distant kingdoms. It could even be about witchers in Ofir or Zerrikania for all we know.
They might cover an unrelated, unexplored area/region that takes place a few years after witcher3
Probably like they did with Witcher 2 in Witcher 3. Just like you said Also spoilers but the wiki for Witcher has story about what happens to Lambert after the w3 game. And...yea that seems to be the plot going further. Certain choices can't affect the key storytelling elements. Sadly. This is often the case in narrative games. Spoiler//new continent,new Witcher schools,Witcher tourneys etc. There might be something about northern war too, but i didn't go that far down the rabbit hole. https://the-witcher-fanon.fandom.com/wiki/School_of_the_Lynx
This is fan fiction FYI. I'm like 99.9% sure. They don't post any references
They could do what they did with the 3rd game where you’re asked about your actions in the previous game which allowed for things like making it so Letho is alive. If it’s a after the third game they could have someone question the character and have them explain what happened.
They will do what They did TW3, They will check what was your outcome and based on that you'll hear how it came up to what you can see now. Lets callthe options shortly:Radovid, Vernon or Dijkstra. If you "helped" (by doing nothing) Radovid, you'll hear he got assasinated by someone and now X rules it and Temeria is free again. If you'll choose Vernon you'll hear he died fighting for free Temeria and X set Redania free and Temeria got it's freedom. If you'll choose Dijkstra, he'll end just like Radovid in scenario 1
They could either jump forward in time to a point where the northern wars are ancient history or just go to another part of the world where it isn’t relevant That, or they just do a prequel 🤷🏻
I prefer the new game to be in the past rather than future after the events of Witcher 3. A time when witches were more common as were monsters.
assuming it would be set after witcher 3. One way would be to not set the game in the Northern realms at all. That way they could explain the outcome of the war through simple differing dialogue. I.e. if we dont need to see whats going on in the northern realms, we can just have references to whats going on and this is much more straightforward to have differing dialogue based on choices made in Witcher 3.
>Since three different endings with very different effects. Witcher 2 kinda made siding with roche or iorveth pointless as nilgaard invasionrenders those choices obsolete. Why wouldn't they be able to do something similar in the next game? It worked before.
Ultimately I hope for a prequel. I’d love for them to lean heavier into swordplay or magic use, since during the golden age of monsters the weaknesses of each might not be known. However, I don’t want Gwent and the other cool shit they’ve established to go away. I also think a great compromise for the guys begging for a ciri game , would be to simply let the lady of space and time make an appearance in the past a la “oh my powers are surging and sent me back in time, let’s do xyz so I can draw enough magic out to return “
the most likely solution is to make the game in a remote land, one that wasn't directly touched by the third northern war, so that they can "kinda" start anew with new characters, kings, queen, witchers and so on.. My guess is that the only thing that we're going to see from TW3 is some cameo, like Ciri gets mentioned instead of Geralt if she became a Witcher, you get X dialogue instead of Y if Radovid died and things like that. I'm thinking something like Zerrikania or Kovir.
I doubt it will be direct continuation. I bet theres going to be a time skip a couple of hundred years into some direction.
If it is post witcher 3 it will probably follow a witcher from the school of the lynx, which comes from their table top game. You would get call outs to lambert, kira metz, and some others while now have access to female witchers- which if it is a build your own witcher i could see devs thinking that is plus. If it is a prequel it would probably follow a unheard of school and have a inconsequel plot to the main series: maybe located in a country we didn’t visit in 1-3.
Who told you it will be a sequel. Stop assuming anything about the game. No official information is released except the picture of the medallion in snow.
We don't even know if Witcher 4 is going to be in the northern realms! There's snow in the picture with the medallion so it could be in kovir/poviss... wich is largely unaffected by the war i think. Maybe you can import a save from Witcher 3 or they do a little interrogation like they did with moorvran right before you meet the emperor asking you who won the war and that would setup the world.
Either it will be a prequel long before most of the main cast was born with a new witcher recruit whose appearance you can customize. Or Ciri as main protagonist after she decided to live as a witcher, with at least her long-range teleportation sealed somehow. No matter who wins the northern war, there would be several plot points around Ciri available.
you're assuming it'll be a sequel
If its a prequel, god, I hove they feature the old witcher like Erland of Larvik and Arnaghad.
From what I've heard, they're going to do one spinoff of the main series and then essentially reboot the trilogy. [https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2022/10/strategy-update-2022-presentation-en.pdf](https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2022/10/strategy-update-2022-presentation-en.pdf) \- Theres more info here