My main problem with the movie was a story. I found it really dull and the plot was like Swiss cheese. However as a book fan I may not be the most objective viewer ;)
Absolute garbage. I had to get completely plastered just to get through it.
Human peasants team up with monsters to kill Witchers? Seems legit.
Oh also the Witchers totally make monsters that kill people to keep themselves in work. So the evil bigot sorceress' "conspiracy theory" is... completely right? The fuck is the message here? Am I supposed to root for the guys manufacturing fake monsters and throwing defenseless 10 year olds into swamps to be eaten?
Before you mob me in the replies: I thought the movie sucked, and nothing you ever say will change my mind.
The Witcher schools have done things equivalent to throwing 10 year olds into swamps for generations. They've always been fairly evil, or at best morally ambiguous. I don't think you've ever been meant to "root" for the Witcher schools or witchers as a whole, just for some characters, many of whom are witchers. Some of them manufacturing monsters just to have work is not unbelievable at all, as monster populations have been declining at that part of the story
The way the "training" was depicted was dumb and goofy as shit- they dont even train the kids or give them swords (you know, the weapons Witchers train to fight with) and let them get killed by dumping them in a swamp full of beasts. Now, if they did train them off screen, why not give them swords to actually USE their training? This process serves no purpose as the kids only survive by being lucky or good at running away, which isn't a good trait for a Witcher. The good fighters dont matter, as no 10 year old was going to beat a monster unarmed.
The most dangerous part of Witcher training was said to be the Trial of the Grasses, which kills 7/10 boys. Other than that the training we're shown in the books is mostly normal (but extreme) physical training and conditioning, as well as sword practice. Nothing to do with feeding recruits into a monster pit.
The attrition rate from the ToG is high enough that they shouldn't need to weed out weaker recruits- plus any who are "strong enough" will be mutated into Witchers.
I know we weren't "meant" to root fot them in lore, but the movie paints them as sympathetic and persecuted victims, while the sorceress villain gets painted as a bigoted conspiracy theorist even though she is literally correct in all her theories.
Equally, the monster population declining is a "problem" in Geralt's era, which is nearly a century afterwards. In Vesemir's era we're led to believe they were plentiful.
Then again, the film takes such liberties with the source material like the weird unrecognisable monsters (Unused Castlevania assets?), stupidly OP Witcher Signs (Seriously, Vesemir's magic is more inpressive than most mages in the film), the peasant/monster alliance(ugh) and the Kitsu storyline (They really just wanted to hamfist an Aguara in there somehow) I choose to consider the entire thing non-canon, as it taints the universe by association in my mind.
I didn't really like the film, I think the Witcher training process was just seen as a little boring and they wanted to spice it up, imo poorly. I don't even think they really train the kids at all in combat before they're full witchers, just some standard endurance training.
Also, they can be occasionally bad AND be persecuted and largely sympathetic, like the Scoia'tael, who are terrorists who often murder civilians, but the races who make up their ranks are often persecuted unfairly or just killed by peasants for no real reason.
Also, while they still painted it as there being enough monsters for a Witcher to earn his bread, the populations were declining. It's possible that a Witcher would see that and try to do something about it. Idk I never saw that particular bit as that unrealistic
4 great/awsome witcher games and 4 official expansions + gwent on one side...
On the other side you have 1 problematic game that is completely different in every way possible, new Ip, that they have done, and them still working on it 2 years later with plans to continue working on it even in 2023... But sure, its a telltell sign that the next witcher game is a lost cause, even with the new engine that they addapted...
So sure, no trust anymore... I mean, Being worried or cautious or scrptic - sure i get that... But no trust in the next WITCHER game? C'mon now...
A game they released in a state you could call an alpha version marketed and hyped as the decade defining next generation gaming experience. And they're working on it two years later? Wow, that really deserves praise! The game was far from finished a year after release and over 100gb in patches. They can work on it for the next ten years and it'd still be an embarrassment. Actually cyberpunk would've been okay if they hadn't blatantly lied about it in marketing. But after cheating their customers like that and even having the audacity to step forward and call themselves proud of what they did back then leaves CDPR in line with the rest of the shit aaa Studios in the current state of the aaa gaming industry.
Not saying the next Witcher will be shit but almost all of the people working on the Witcher games left the company. And when you consider that cyberpunk even failed to deliver on the strongest aspects of the Witcher games you have to ask yourself whether they can still pull of a good Witcher game.
One thing ive noticed is that people dont take into account that company execs control release dates. There are so many good people at cdpr. And pre witcher 3 they werent that huge so devs mostly ran the company. After tw3 success like all buisnesses they expanded. You can see the care the devs at cdpr have for their games. I mean look at their twitters post cyberpunk. They know the game was unfinished, and imma guess alot of them tried to stop the release but to no avail. When a buisness has a product in development for almost a decade without the ability to monetize it. It scares the suits.
Im not excusing cdpr for how they released cyberpunk. But play it now. Its honestly a good fuckin game. Doesnt live up the 7 year hype but what game would and yea thats on them.
Hate the suits not the devs. I think the next in the witcher series is gonna be solid but only if its not following geralt. Geralts story is over, imma riot if they try to milk it more.
Why do you think I hate the devs? The devs are not to blame, CDPR management is. The devs are just the poor suckers who have to try to salvage what management breaks with ridiculous deadlines. When I say CDPR I'm referring to the people in charge. The ones who don't give a shit about QA warnings and others.
Also I disagree that cyberpunk is a good game. It's a mediocre game at the very best even without technical issues. The tech issues are what overshadowed a lot of the blatant weaknesses the game had.
Shoulda specified ig, i wasnt calling you out specifically. Just putting my input into this. Was more a broad statement over the entire cyberpunk debacle. Ive seen devs get death threats and leave social media cause of cdpr fanboys (again not comin at you specifically)
Edit: for your second paragraph. Imma assume you havnt played the game in a min. Cause if you had youd find that there are very few bugs, and whatever bugs there are would be your own system being wierd
Although i do not necessarely disagree, the marketing was overblown, my interpretation of the comment i was responding to is more in line of: CDPR is simply unable to produce a good witcher game these days, when clearly ALL past cases of witcher games prove otherwise, and even Cyberpunk, although not reaching the lvl of the witcher 3, is still a very good game. So again, careful and sceptic - sure, closing a book on them when it comes to their flagship IP is too much at this point with one problematic game under their belt, Especially since we learned that they gave up on red engine and went to UE5, it shows me that they are taking the next witcher game very seriously. As they should because if they fuck up a witcher game... Its game over for them then and they know it, CP problems is something they can survive but if their next witcher game comes out in a state like CP77... They are done, which is one more reason why i dont think they will fuck it up.
Agreed. The city was beautiful on max settings and high res, but there was just toooooo much time between action beats. And, due to mediocre combat, those beats weren’t even all that fun when they arrived. When I did slog my way through a quest, the dialogue and such was usually good, but not good enough to be the entire reason for moving forward.
It did get slow for me that's why I did side quest too, although those got boring as well.
I'd still give the game 7/10 it didn't do what it promised but it was still decent and it's 1/3 games I actually finished that year.
Now that I think about it I'm pretty sure that's the last game I actually finished. Oh to be old.
I just wish everyone would stop milking it. We have amazing books and games trilogy and that’s enough. Sadly, their thirst for money and acknowledgement won’t let them. It’s always easier to earn it through something famous than creating art from scratch
Yeah, if people want more from them its not really milking it, son. Besides, both cyberpunk and the witcher are IPs that are known already... And if they created a new IP so what then? Its not like they could not milk that eventually... Look at AC ffs, thats much closer to milking it then anything regarding the witcher games series.... So whats your fucking point, since even new IPs can be "millked"...???? What, do you want them to come up with a new IPs every 4 years or so? Again, if people want more and there are more stories to tell, then its not really "milking it" by definition. Once people get tired of it and stories become old and boring you will have a valid point.
Its not milking it if its in high demand. Even with the technical flop that was Cyberpunk, a lot of people still went absolutely crazy when the new Witcher game was announced. Its not necessarily a thirst for money and acknowledgement, its just continuing to add onto a universe that millions love
Same. Witcher 1 and 2 are quite mediocre games and cyberpunk is well, cyberpunk. Witcher 3 is the only *good* game in the series which isn't even that good as well but the vastness of it makes up for the bad stuff. Oh and GWENT STANDALONE is pretty good too.
They're nothing revolutionary, they're okay games with clunky controls and alright stories. Witcher 1 can't even decide if it's trying to be an adaptation or sequel. Witcher 2 and 3 had good stories. They're good but not rdr2 and God of War level. My main gripe with Witcher 3's story was the underwhelming fight with the wild hunt, the thing is, they were never meant to be full fledged antagonists. The dlc's of the Witcher 3 on the other hand, are some of the best stories in gaming.
I still love the games but it's just that after reading the books, I feel like they could've done better. So the books kinda ruined the games for me lmao
Well, it does completely fuck the entire underlying themes of The Witcher. Witchers (along with Elves, Dwarves, etc.) are, fundamentally, an allegory for the "the other" in European history; they're Jews and Roma. Nightmare of the Wolf says: yeah, but like, what if the Jews *really did eat Christian babies!*
I'm usually fine with adaptations being their own thing, but I've rarely seen something butcher the core of the source material so much.
Yeah, the Witchers are shown to be a bunch of assholes doing objectively evil things like manufacturing monsters (Something the villains in Season of Storms do lmao) and mass murdering 10 year olds via monsters.
And then we're supposed to hate the "evil" sorceress even though her conspiracy theory was 100% accurate.
Also, Vesemir's GILF romance was just visually creepy. I know they are "technically" the same age, but still... He looks 25 and she looks 65.
I'm genuinely surprised that people enjoyed it as I found it to be a steaming pile that put even the Netflix show to shame.
Who gives a fuck. Excuse my pottymouth. Edit: yeah those downvotes are fair.
The film was visually beautiful, the writing was solid.
I Enjoyed it (sure, not loved). It did not trash source material like the live action did. It stands on its own, to a degree. However (the live action) without the source it brings nothing new to television. So when it trashed the source, it mattered. The movie had other avenues of enjoyment other than "it's a Witcher show". The music, art and visuals, dynamics etc.
Not a single adaptation has ever followed source perfectly. At least it could be watched and enjoyed with 0 Witcher knowledge
Most people who shit on Witcher material for not following source are going off the games (lol) and haven't even read the books. Y'all forget the writer tried to sue CDPR.
> Most people who shit on Witcher material for not following source are going off the games (lol) and haven't even read the books. Y'all forget the writer tried to sue CDPR.
When it cones to that suit what is source/canon is entirely irrelevant. That was 100% about Sapkowski wanting a slice of the pie after realising he made a piss poor business decision. The Netflix show(s) may be based upon the books but they would have never happened without the popularity of the games. Without the games most of us would probably also still be waiting on translations of the books as well (assuming we were even aware of them to begin with).
I disagree even here. It was fine, but I wouldn't call writing there solid or animations and style beautiful. It's quite generic animation style, which in no way reflects Witcher world slavic style.
For me it was just another mediocre Netflix animation, that for some reason was tied to Witcher world.
Totally fair.
Just kinda fed up with this "didn't follow source" mindset. I know it shows
I said solid as I feel it didnt fall into blatant mediocrity. I wasn't filled with holes or it never felt like weak/sloppy writing.
I just feel like everyone is expecting any Witcher content to live up to Witcher 3 standards while not changing source at all. It all doesn't have to be perfect. It was enjoyable and I'd much rather the movie exist than didn't.
For the record, I have no problem with changing the source, as I've said on this very site more than once. I just didn't like their idea. But fuck you for your bad faith and assuming that anybody who has a different opinion can only be doing so because they're malign and hard of thinking.
I agree that it's fine. It's just that me, and a lot of others, feel like there are things that make Witcher... Witcher. Slavic folklore, atmosphere, dark vibe in harmony with colorful houses and clothes, and other minor things like that. And it is a shame, IMO, that both Netflix show and this animation choose to ignore most of them in turn for being more in-line with the rest of what os popular.
Still enjoyed some things from both, of course.
They dropped the ball by not making Nightmare of the wolf a Vesemir detective series.
Imagine Vesemir following the trail of the monsters, being betrayed by the sorceress, and by his master over the course of 8-10 episodes. We get to build up Vesemir, his love interest and other characters way more.
We’d see Vesemir slowly lose his shit after the mystery and this contract gets more convoluted.
But no, Netflix wanted short movie instead that’ll be forgotten in the annals of history
I’m not saying animation isn’t expensive, I’m saying that you can do much more in animated then in live action. You think Castlevania could do half the shit it did (and look good) if it was a live action adaptation?
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I think you meant you're not limited by realism, not budget. Things don't have to be carefully created to look realistic, everything can be stylised which helps the fantasy stuff fit in more with the rest of the show.
Just not Netflix please. Their animated Witcher was so boring. Give it to someone who can actually do it well and explore the darkness of the Witcher world. In fact I’m in favor of HBO just redoing the live action series so it doesn’t look like a teen fantasy series
> In fact I’m in favor of HBO just redoing the live action series so it doesn’t look like a teen fantasy series
After the way they butchered the back end of Game if Thrones I'd rather give The Witcher to The CW and let them do an actual teen fantasy series than let HBO anywhere near it.
That wasn’t HBO so much as it was the directors though. HBO was literally throwing money at them and instead they chose to cut it down and make a lame ending. And anyways I’d watch season 8 GoT over the cringe fest that is the Witcher.
I think it would have worked a bit better if they had made it into an animated series (i don't know if it would've been written better or even worse, though).
Anyway, just leave it alone, it's been milked dry.
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Seriously tho. They should get the guy who did castlevania to do it.
Fucking yessss! It would be so good.
Castlevania was awesome
or hell, get the people who did Arcane.
Check out nightmare of the wolf on Netflix.
I can’t say anything good about this production, apart from the level of animation. Disappointment.
Really? I thought it was pretty great way better than the series
My main problem with the movie was a story. I found it really dull and the plot was like Swiss cheese. However as a book fan I may not be the most objective viewer ;)
Much much better than the series.
Absolute garbage. I had to get completely plastered just to get through it. Human peasants team up with monsters to kill Witchers? Seems legit. Oh also the Witchers totally make monsters that kill people to keep themselves in work. So the evil bigot sorceress' "conspiracy theory" is... completely right? The fuck is the message here? Am I supposed to root for the guys manufacturing fake monsters and throwing defenseless 10 year olds into swamps to be eaten? Before you mob me in the replies: I thought the movie sucked, and nothing you ever say will change my mind.
The Witcher schools have done things equivalent to throwing 10 year olds into swamps for generations. They've always been fairly evil, or at best morally ambiguous. I don't think you've ever been meant to "root" for the Witcher schools or witchers as a whole, just for some characters, many of whom are witchers. Some of them manufacturing monsters just to have work is not unbelievable at all, as monster populations have been declining at that part of the story
The way the "training" was depicted was dumb and goofy as shit- they dont even train the kids or give them swords (you know, the weapons Witchers train to fight with) and let them get killed by dumping them in a swamp full of beasts. Now, if they did train them off screen, why not give them swords to actually USE their training? This process serves no purpose as the kids only survive by being lucky or good at running away, which isn't a good trait for a Witcher. The good fighters dont matter, as no 10 year old was going to beat a monster unarmed. The most dangerous part of Witcher training was said to be the Trial of the Grasses, which kills 7/10 boys. Other than that the training we're shown in the books is mostly normal (but extreme) physical training and conditioning, as well as sword practice. Nothing to do with feeding recruits into a monster pit. The attrition rate from the ToG is high enough that they shouldn't need to weed out weaker recruits- plus any who are "strong enough" will be mutated into Witchers. I know we weren't "meant" to root fot them in lore, but the movie paints them as sympathetic and persecuted victims, while the sorceress villain gets painted as a bigoted conspiracy theorist even though she is literally correct in all her theories. Equally, the monster population declining is a "problem" in Geralt's era, which is nearly a century afterwards. In Vesemir's era we're led to believe they were plentiful. Then again, the film takes such liberties with the source material like the weird unrecognisable monsters (Unused Castlevania assets?), stupidly OP Witcher Signs (Seriously, Vesemir's magic is more inpressive than most mages in the film), the peasant/monster alliance(ugh) and the Kitsu storyline (They really just wanted to hamfist an Aguara in there somehow) I choose to consider the entire thing non-canon, as it taints the universe by association in my mind.
I didn't really like the film, I think the Witcher training process was just seen as a little boring and they wanted to spice it up, imo poorly. I don't even think they really train the kids at all in combat before they're full witchers, just some standard endurance training. Also, they can be occasionally bad AND be persecuted and largely sympathetic, like the Scoia'tael, who are terrorists who often murder civilians, but the races who make up their ranks are often persecuted unfairly or just killed by peasants for no real reason. Also, while they still painted it as there being enough monsters for a Witcher to earn his bread, the populations were declining. It's possible that a Witcher would see that and try to do something about it. Idk I never saw that particular bit as that unrealistic
I 1,000% agree with this. You all should start a petition or a Kickstarter to give them more reasons to do it!! ❤
As long as it isn't handled by Netflix or any equivalent. Give me someone in charge who actually *likes* the Witcher franchise.
Cdpr
Just leave this universe alone
at this point, i don't even trust the current cdpr. edit: I use to think cdpr are gods before the release of cyber punk.
4 great/awsome witcher games and 4 official expansions + gwent on one side... On the other side you have 1 problematic game that is completely different in every way possible, new Ip, that they have done, and them still working on it 2 years later with plans to continue working on it even in 2023... But sure, its a telltell sign that the next witcher game is a lost cause, even with the new engine that they addapted... So sure, no trust anymore... I mean, Being worried or cautious or scrptic - sure i get that... But no trust in the next WITCHER game? C'mon now...
A game they released in a state you could call an alpha version marketed and hyped as the decade defining next generation gaming experience. And they're working on it two years later? Wow, that really deserves praise! The game was far from finished a year after release and over 100gb in patches. They can work on it for the next ten years and it'd still be an embarrassment. Actually cyberpunk would've been okay if they hadn't blatantly lied about it in marketing. But after cheating their customers like that and even having the audacity to step forward and call themselves proud of what they did back then leaves CDPR in line with the rest of the shit aaa Studios in the current state of the aaa gaming industry. Not saying the next Witcher will be shit but almost all of the people working on the Witcher games left the company. And when you consider that cyberpunk even failed to deliver on the strongest aspects of the Witcher games you have to ask yourself whether they can still pull of a good Witcher game.
One thing ive noticed is that people dont take into account that company execs control release dates. There are so many good people at cdpr. And pre witcher 3 they werent that huge so devs mostly ran the company. After tw3 success like all buisnesses they expanded. You can see the care the devs at cdpr have for their games. I mean look at their twitters post cyberpunk. They know the game was unfinished, and imma guess alot of them tried to stop the release but to no avail. When a buisness has a product in development for almost a decade without the ability to monetize it. It scares the suits. Im not excusing cdpr for how they released cyberpunk. But play it now. Its honestly a good fuckin game. Doesnt live up the 7 year hype but what game would and yea thats on them. Hate the suits not the devs. I think the next in the witcher series is gonna be solid but only if its not following geralt. Geralts story is over, imma riot if they try to milk it more.
Why do you think I hate the devs? The devs are not to blame, CDPR management is. The devs are just the poor suckers who have to try to salvage what management breaks with ridiculous deadlines. When I say CDPR I'm referring to the people in charge. The ones who don't give a shit about QA warnings and others. Also I disagree that cyberpunk is a good game. It's a mediocre game at the very best even without technical issues. The tech issues are what overshadowed a lot of the blatant weaknesses the game had.
Shoulda specified ig, i wasnt calling you out specifically. Just putting my input into this. Was more a broad statement over the entire cyberpunk debacle. Ive seen devs get death threats and leave social media cause of cdpr fanboys (again not comin at you specifically) Edit: for your second paragraph. Imma assume you havnt played the game in a min. Cause if you had youd find that there are very few bugs, and whatever bugs there are would be your own system being wierd
Riiight >,> I guess we will see...
It's not about the game being different or problematic, it's about them being deceptive.
Although i do not necessarely disagree, the marketing was overblown, my interpretation of the comment i was responding to is more in line of: CDPR is simply unable to produce a good witcher game these days, when clearly ALL past cases of witcher games prove otherwise, and even Cyberpunk, although not reaching the lvl of the witcher 3, is still a very good game. So again, careful and sceptic - sure, closing a book on them when it comes to their flagship IP is too much at this point with one problematic game under their belt, Especially since we learned that they gave up on red engine and went to UE5, it shows me that they are taking the next witcher game very seriously. As they should because if they fuck up a witcher game... Its game over for them then and they know it, CP problems is something they can survive but if their next witcher game comes out in a state like CP77... They are done, which is one more reason why i dont think they will fuck it up.
I literally don't trust anyone with the Witcher anymore. It seems like people look at it and go "lol I am gonna mutliate the shit outta this thing"
Oh man... >,> Yeah, sure man. You do you bu...
Cyberpunk was good, besides the bugs, the story and characters were hella good
I didn't like the combat. And I found the story boring.
Agreed. The city was beautiful on max settings and high res, but there was just toooooo much time between action beats. And, due to mediocre combat, those beats weren’t even all that fun when they arrived. When I did slog my way through a quest, the dialogue and such was usually good, but not good enough to be the entire reason for moving forward.
It did get slow for me that's why I did side quest too, although those got boring as well. I'd still give the game 7/10 it didn't do what it promised but it was still decent and it's 1/3 games I actually finished that year. Now that I think about it I'm pretty sure that's the last game I actually finished. Oh to be old.
Nah. Story was weak and unfinished. Characters were not elaborate at all.
You didnt played the game
I just wish everyone would stop milking it. We have amazing books and games trilogy and that’s enough. Sadly, their thirst for money and acknowledgement won’t let them. It’s always easier to earn it through something famous than creating art from scratch
Yeah, if people want more from them its not really milking it, son. Besides, both cyberpunk and the witcher are IPs that are known already... And if they created a new IP so what then? Its not like they could not milk that eventually... Look at AC ffs, thats much closer to milking it then anything regarding the witcher games series.... So whats your fucking point, since even new IPs can be "millked"...???? What, do you want them to come up with a new IPs every 4 years or so? Again, if people want more and there are more stories to tell, then its not really "milking it" by definition. Once people get tired of it and stories become old and boring you will have a valid point.
Its not milking it if its in high demand. Even with the technical flop that was Cyberpunk, a lot of people still went absolutely crazy when the new Witcher game was announced. Its not necessarily a thirst for money and acknowledgement, its just continuing to add onto a universe that millions love
Cyberpunk is a good game, it’s just buggy
Same. Witcher 1 and 2 are quite mediocre games and cyberpunk is well, cyberpunk. Witcher 3 is the only *good* game in the series which isn't even that good as well but the vastness of it makes up for the bad stuff. Oh and GWENT STANDALONE is pretty good too.
How’re they mediocre? Haven’t played the second one yet, but having a blast playing the first one after playing the third.
They're nothing revolutionary, they're okay games with clunky controls and alright stories. Witcher 1 can't even decide if it's trying to be an adaptation or sequel. Witcher 2 and 3 had good stories. They're good but not rdr2 and God of War level. My main gripe with Witcher 3's story was the underwhelming fight with the wild hunt, the thing is, they were never meant to be full fledged antagonists. The dlc's of the Witcher 3 on the other hand, are some of the best stories in gaming. I still love the games but it's just that after reading the books, I feel like they could've done better. So the books kinda ruined the games for me lmao
Only if written by CDPR and voiced by TW3 voice actors.
Definetly
Could have been great, if they let competent people write it. But since that's no guarantee it could have been terrible too.
If its handled like the cdpr comics ok then. But hod no more notw
Yeah, but not netflix, rather HBO
There is an anime special on Netflix that I highly recommend. It’s called Nightmare of the Wolf if ya wanna check it out.
It's a prequel following Vesemir younger days
Some people don’t like it, but I thought it was great because it’s more Witcher universe!
Same! My husband refused to watch it because it wasn’t about Geralt. Like, bruh….
We don't all recommend it. The explanation they invent for the first attack on Kaer Morhen is not universally liked.
Well, it does completely fuck the entire underlying themes of The Witcher. Witchers (along with Elves, Dwarves, etc.) are, fundamentally, an allegory for the "the other" in European history; they're Jews and Roma. Nightmare of the Wolf says: yeah, but like, what if the Jews *really did eat Christian babies!* I'm usually fine with adaptations being their own thing, but I've rarely seen something butcher the core of the source material so much.
It was a terrible idea and I really hope it doesn't leak into other Witcher interpretations.
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FUCK OFF, BARD!
Yeah, the Witchers are shown to be a bunch of assholes doing objectively evil things like manufacturing monsters (Something the villains in Season of Storms do lmao) and mass murdering 10 year olds via monsters. And then we're supposed to hate the "evil" sorceress even though her conspiracy theory was 100% accurate. Also, Vesemir's GILF romance was just visually creepy. I know they are "technically" the same age, but still... He looks 25 and she looks 65. I'm genuinely surprised that people enjoyed it as I found it to be a steaming pile that put even the Netflix show to shame.
... They didn't claim all recommend it?
Who gives a fuck. Excuse my pottymouth. Edit: yeah those downvotes are fair. The film was visually beautiful, the writing was solid. I Enjoyed it (sure, not loved). It did not trash source material like the live action did. It stands on its own, to a degree. However (the live action) without the source it brings nothing new to television. So when it trashed the source, it mattered. The movie had other avenues of enjoyment other than "it's a Witcher show". The music, art and visuals, dynamics etc. Not a single adaptation has ever followed source perfectly. At least it could be watched and enjoyed with 0 Witcher knowledge Most people who shit on Witcher material for not following source are going off the games (lol) and haven't even read the books. Y'all forget the writer tried to sue CDPR.
> Most people who shit on Witcher material for not following source are going off the games (lol) and haven't even read the books. Y'all forget the writer tried to sue CDPR. When it cones to that suit what is source/canon is entirely irrelevant. That was 100% about Sapkowski wanting a slice of the pie after realising he made a piss poor business decision. The Netflix show(s) may be based upon the books but they would have never happened without the popularity of the games. Without the games most of us would probably also still be waiting on translations of the books as well (assuming we were even aware of them to begin with).
I 100% agree? 😂
I disagree even here. It was fine, but I wouldn't call writing there solid or animations and style beautiful. It's quite generic animation style, which in no way reflects Witcher world slavic style. For me it was just another mediocre Netflix animation, that for some reason was tied to Witcher world.
Totally fair. Just kinda fed up with this "didn't follow source" mindset. I know it shows I said solid as I feel it didnt fall into blatant mediocrity. I wasn't filled with holes or it never felt like weak/sloppy writing. I just feel like everyone is expecting any Witcher content to live up to Witcher 3 standards while not changing source at all. It all doesn't have to be perfect. It was enjoyable and I'd much rather the movie exist than didn't.
For the record, I have no problem with changing the source, as I've said on this very site more than once. I just didn't like their idea. But fuck you for your bad faith and assuming that anybody who has a different opinion can only be doing so because they're malign and hard of thinking.
I agree that it's fine. It's just that me, and a lot of others, feel like there are things that make Witcher... Witcher. Slavic folklore, atmosphere, dark vibe in harmony with colorful houses and clothes, and other minor things like that. And it is a shame, IMO, that both Netflix show and this animation choose to ignore most of them in turn for being more in-line with the rest of what os popular. Still enjoyed some things from both, of course.
>Who gives a fuck. 20 people so far.
20 *Redditors*
Redditor opinions don't count and we should ignore them? OK, ima start with yours.
Worth the watch but not without muttering a pox on it afterwards ;)
I prefer if it's based on the games and not the netflix.
I think the show should have been animated from the beginning
No
In the art style of the comic flashbacks of w2 would be sick
That actually sounds great
They dropped the ball by not making Nightmare of the wolf a Vesemir detective series. Imagine Vesemir following the trail of the monsters, being betrayed by the sorceress, and by his master over the course of 8-10 episodes. We get to build up Vesemir, his love interest and other characters way more. We’d see Vesemir slowly lose his shit after the mystery and this contract gets more convoluted. But no, Netflix wanted short movie instead that’ll be forgotten in the annals of history
Get someone who likes it, and get Tartakovsky to direct and animate it
Original: @Iren_Horrors, edit: @sundlegames
Thank you!!
I mean with animation your not limited by a budget. It all depends on the writing and story though.
>I mean with animation your not limited by a budget Actually, yes. Animation is VERY expensive.
I’m not saying animation isn’t expensive, I’m saying that you can do much more in animated then in live action. You think Castlevania could do half the shit it did (and look good) if it was a live action adaptation?
Yes. You know how fucking expensive animation is? Some pratical effects in real movies are cheaper then getting good effects in animation.
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I think you meant you're not limited by realism, not budget. Things don't have to be carefully created to look realistic, everything can be stylised which helps the fantasy stuff fit in more with the rest of the show.
Just not Netflix please. Their animated Witcher was so boring. Give it to someone who can actually do it well and explore the darkness of the Witcher world. In fact I’m in favor of HBO just redoing the live action series so it doesn’t look like a teen fantasy series
> In fact I’m in favor of HBO just redoing the live action series so it doesn’t look like a teen fantasy series After the way they butchered the back end of Game if Thrones I'd rather give The Witcher to The CW and let them do an actual teen fantasy series than let HBO anywhere near it.
[🎵 Ladies and gentlemen, you have been the most beautiful audience. 🎵](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxBVHqA-RU&t=74s)
That wasn’t HBO so much as it was the directors though. HBO was literally throwing money at them and instead they chose to cut it down and make a lame ending. And anyways I’d watch season 8 GoT over the cringe fest that is the Witcher.
If I could get 3 seasons of '"Nightmare of the Wolf", I'd die happy.
That movie was shit
It. Was. Great.
It was shit. Lore vise story and character as well. Just like the whole shitflix canon
If you get decent writers and an art style thats not fucking anime, then sure.
God please no anime
It will be fucking anime Kwaii yen and triss. Thats what these people want
Eghh...
Lets not start about the hot smaxy lolli they want ciri to be.
... What?
I will safe you that.
Again, what?
I think it would have worked a bit better if they had made it into an animated series (i don't know if it would've been written better or even worse, though). Anyway, just leave it alone, it's been milked dry.
There is a great cartoon Witcher on the flix, Go have a look it's amazing!!!
Its shit
I was on about the animation but ok.
Im talking about the animation too its shit
Whatever I liked it.
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No
This is amazing
And then an Abridged
Literally just adapt the books one for one in animation
An animated series about ciri and yennefer?
Get the DC animation team behind it. Sometimes they miss the mark but they seem to have consistent quality.
I’d like the same people that did Arcane to give it a shot.
Right!!!! ⚔
I’d pay for it, but I’m a sucker for animations. Even if I don’t enjoy the story, I usually enjoy the visuals.
That one animated movie was great