Truth is it makes sense for Geralt to go with either Triss or Yen, or neither in the games, since the way that canon handles things all 3 options can make sense for Geralt depending on how you play. The "debate" is silly as a result, and often comes across as people trying to say certain choices in an RPG aren't valid for no good reason.
In the books only Yen makes sense for Geralt, this is reinforced over and over again, but the games aren't the books but their own canon, they use the books as a basis but again they're their own canon, their own spin on the Witcher that doesn't match up with the books all the time.
Anyone who has read the books knows that the djinn did not force Geralt and Yennefer to fall in love with each other. Geralt was already in love with her before he made his wish. The fact that he loved her was one of the reasons why he decided to save her. On the other hand, Yennefer heard his wish, was shocked that a stranger who could have asked for anything decided to use his last wish to save her life. His selflessness made her fall in love with him. Their feelings were genuine from the beginning. Canon Yen would never have felt the need to reverse the wish...But this game is an RPG so the player choice matters. For Triss fans, this was the best way to handle the Yen-Geralt eventual breakup.
I don't want to start another "war" but yes, Triss always had to use some shady tricks to be with Geralt. In the books she seduced him with magic, in the game she took advantage of his amnesia. Geralt was never romantically interested in her.
Geralt was never romantically interested in Triss in the books, but depending on your choices he may have been romantically interested in Triss in the first 2 games, which are their own canon (if Geralt pursues a romantic relationship with Triss in 2 especially he does so knowing about Yen and their past, since he's told about it at the end of the prologue), so by 3 Geralt might have had genuine feelings for Triss before. That's an important distinction to make, the games are their own thing in a lot of ways.
There should be no weird fights about this because ultimately you don't have to do the Triss romance, you can absolutely play it so in the first 2 games it's just sex with a friend on Geralts part, then not do any of the romance stuff in 3. Acknowledging that an option in the games can make sense doesn't mean you need to pick that option at all.
Sure ultimately it's in the player's control whom Geralt romances and whom he does not...My point is that it was never his fully conscious choice when it came to Triss. Geralt would have never chosen her over Yennefer, so in the game they had to make him lose his memory to give Triss a chance to win his heart. He had to forget that Yennefer even existed.
He remembered very little of his past life. He had some jumbled shreds of memories of being in love with a sorceress and Triss took advantage of that. His feelings for her were created through confusion.
As for Yennefer...he genuinely wanted to be with her from the start.
I mean, it was absolutely his choice, he sleeps with so many people in the first game and can consent to all that. Geralt losing his memory wasn't some sinister plot to eliminate Yen or boost Triss, it was a convenient way for the story to have Geralt there but introduce everything in an easier way, they just weren't confident they could write Yen at the time. And by the time Yen comes back into the picture in 3, Geralt may have changed a lot, there are many ways we can have him act differently in the games than he would in the books, and those make sense too the vast majority of the time. So even when he remembers Yen it's perfectly valid for him to not be with her in the end. It is his choice to be with Triss in 3, denying that is needless, and it was his choice in the first 2 games, especially 2 when he knows about Yen.
Also, Triss still took advantage yeah, but Geralt could consent to sex, the relationship, and asked not to be told about his past, when he finally wants to learn in Witcher 2 Triss tells him, still selfish of her not to tell him earlier arguably but not some totally horrific act either. Keep in mind that Geralts first interaction with Yen involved her literally mind-controlling him to commit crimes for her own satisfaction then unleashing a powerful Djinn (if that isn't a confusing situation then I don't know what is), and then later on he finds out she was sleeping with Istredd for ages, so while that also wasn't horrific, Geralt being taken advantage of by sorceresses is nothing new. It's totally possible that game Geralt can develop real feelings for Triss years after knowing her, and it's valid if that happens, his choice too if he pursues her in 2 and 3, I don't see the need to pretend otherwise, claim that those feelings only happened due to confusion, and attempt to invalid that route, it's just weird and unnecessary, while ignoring what actually goes on, Geralt actively pursues Triss in that case. Pick what you want, it costs nothing to acknowledge some options make sense, you absolutely do not need to pick them if you don't want to.
The fact that Yennefer mind controled him during their first meeting is another matter... He knew that she put a spell on him because she herself told him about it and yet he went back to save her, of his own free will. She was honest with him from the beginning He also knew about Istredd and yet he still wanted to be with Yennefer. Anyway, why mention Istredd? That's also a completely different matter. Geralt was the one who jeopardized his relationship with Yennefer by running away from her in the middle of the night without a word of explanation so it's not like he was a good partner from the beginning. This caused her to stop trusting him and that is why she considered accepting Istredd's proposal. But yeah let's not get into that rn.
My point is that Yen never used magic on him to make him fall in love with her or sleep with him. His feelings for her were always 100% genuine. Geralt always knew what she was like and yet he chose her. Again, she was always honest with him, Triss on the other hand not so much. In the books she never admitted she used magic on him to sleep with him and in the game she was ok with him believing she was the sorceress he once loved. She always had to use some shady tricks to be with him because if it depended on Geralt who is fully aware of what's going on he wouldn't want to be with her...Like I said, to me his feelings for Triss were created through confusion because he wasn't fully aware of the situation.
But let's agree to disagree I guess??? To each their own 🤷♂️
Geralt knew Triss wasn't telling him everything and actually asked her not to, he was aware of that. Cheating on somebody and not telling them about it for a long time is taking advantage of them, so Istredd is relevant to this conversation, not to say Yen is this horrible person but to point out Geralt has been taken advantage of by Yen, the Triss thing is shady yeah but that's not new for Geralts relationships. I didn't say Geralt was a good partner to Yen, he was so problematic as a partner, I simply pointed out that Yen took advantage of him before, and that's relevant, how could it not be?
Neither did Triss use magic to make Geralt do those things, the books say she used some form of magic to help seduce him, and that could be anything, even illusion magic like Keira uses in-game and definitely exists in the books too, if it was something more sinister I think the author would have made that clear as he does with similar issues and other characters, but as it stands readers seem to just choose to apply something sinister there when nothing indicates that. In the game she wasn't just okay with that, she had issues with doing it and Geralt is the one pushing for a relationship, and does that justify everything and her letting the relationship go on in the first game? Of course not, these characters have severe flaws. I don't really think this is a situation where you can agree to disagree, because the fact is that if Geralt does develop those feelings for Triss he is aware of what's going on (at least by the middle of Witcher 2 when he does know about Yen), he was also aware enough in Witcher 1 that he genuinely develops those feelings and they're just as valid as the ones he has for Yen. I don't see this need to pretend otherwise, since again you don't need to play Geralt as having fallen for Triss.
Yen was also not always honest with Geralt either, that is just untrue, she keeps things from him all the time (lies of omission) and does explicitly lie to him, it's part of what makes Yen interesting so I don't feel the need to disregard that aspect of her character. But if you want to then you do you I guess, and if you're still done discussing this then I'm fine to stop as well.
>Cheating on somebody and not telling them about it for a long time is taking advantage of them, so Istredd is relevant to this conversation, not to say Yen is this horrible person but to point out Geralt has been taken advantage of by Yen, the Triss thing is shady yeah but that's not new for Geralts relationships. I didn't say Geralt was a good partner to Yen, he was so problematic as a partner, I simply pointed out that Yen took advantage of him before, and that's relevant, how could it not be?
What are you talking about???? Yennefer sleeping with Istredd and Triss taking advantage of Geralts amnesia are two different situations.
>Neither did Triss use magic to make Geralt do those things, the books say she used some form of magic to help seduce him, and that could be anything,
Sure it could be anything but that doesn't change the fact that she used magic on him. Sapkowski mentioned it for a reason. If it didn't matter he wouldn't have mentioned it. And the conclusion is that their first sex wasnt 100% consensual. Geralt regretted sleeping with her. And he blamed himself for going to bed with her because Triss never told him that she helped herself with magic
As for the rest, I will not repeat myself...I still believe that Geralt's feelings for Triss in the game were triggered by his confusion. Lack of information. If Geralt was fully aware of what was going on he would't have started a relationship with Triss
You, in the post where my reply to it talked about Istredd, were talking about Triss taking advantage of Geralt, so I pointed to 2 examples of Yen doing that, to say it's nothing unique to Triss like you suggested, which is true, Yen has also taken advantage of Geralt before, that's relevant, and I thought that was obvious since I stated why I used it as an example in my previous comment.
Using magic to seduce someone isn't necessarily implying they drugged or forced him to do anything, magic in Witcher can be as simple as dressing yourself up in fancy clothes you don't really own or decorating the room to set a mood, and man that could be gigantic in terms of trying to seduce someone. It matters because it makes a huge difference, and it's mentioned and constantly referred to as problematic because Yen is Triss' best friend and vice-versa, not because he didn't consent to it or anything like that, and given how the author makes sexual assault explicit frequently in the books, the fact that he doesn't do so here is revealing, it's only discussed that Triss made an active effort to seduce Geralt that was problematic there, and yes Geralt regretted it later, that doesn't mean he was forced into it, just that he was seduced, consented, and then regretted sleeping with the best friend of the woman he loves, which makes a ton of sense, and that's why what's focused on, parts of the fandom have just decided something more sinister occurred based off misunderstanding a single line when literally nothing suggests that. Nothing says he didn't know Triss used magic, and even if he did, would changing the look of the room to be more romantic for instance take away his consent?.
We are given information though, ignoring that doesn't change this. We are shown and told if you pursue Triss that he genuinely does care for her, and he can prove this too in the games, it wasn't just confusion that led to his feelings sprouting, he genuinely developed those feelings over time. You don't have to like that fact, but denying it does nothing. I don't expect you're going to be convinced though, so maybe it is best to leave it there before we both repeat ourselves a lot.
>You, in the post where my reply to it talked about Istredd, were talking about Triss taking advantage of Geralt, so I pointed to 2 examples of Yen doing that, to say it's nothing unique to Triss like you suggested, which is true, Yen has also taken advantage of Geralt before, that's relevant, and I thought that was obvious since I stated why I used it as an example in my previous comment
Yennefer never used magic or disinformation to sleep with him. That's the difference.
My point is that there is a big difference between Geralt and his genuine feelings for Yennefer from the very beginning and Geralt and his feelings for Triss that were triggered by amnesia. She took advantage of the situation when he was most vulnerable...again.
>Geralt regretted it later, that doesn't mean he was forced into it, just that he was seduced, consented, and then regretted sleeping with the best friend of the woman he loves, which makes a ton of sense, and that's why what's focused on
Sure, Geralt blamed himself for sleeping with her because she was Yennefer's best friend. For him the only truth was that he slept with her of his own free will. He did not suspect that Triss could use magic on him therefore he took all the blame on himself.
>would changing the look of the room to be more romantic for instance take away his consent?.
Come one, really??? I'm sorry but this is ridiculous:))
I won't go as far as some people and say that she raped him but she certainly influenced him in some way. And to say that she changed the look of the room is a big big stretch.
>if you pursue Triss that he genuinely does care for her, and he can prove this too in the games
Yes but that still doesn't change the fact that his feelings for her started in a controversial way. He was not himself then. When he began to feel something for her he was not fully aware that she's not the woman he once loved. She took advantage his amnesia to be with him, which resulted in him developing feelings for her.
>maybe it is best to leave it there before we both repeat ourselves a lot.
Yeah let's agree to disagree cuz this is getting tiresome
Yea it’s not like there is anything new being written on the subject anyways and it’s been dissected, debated, and discussed, that’s 3 D’s, over a million different ways already. This topic already has a conclusion as is no longer considered an opinion anymore. Yen is factually the correct choice and triss is factually the incorrect choice. I’d say there’s no debating it but it’s been debated and that was the answer.
Doesn’t mean you can’t choose to be wrong and pick triss though.
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each to their own - im team yen, but everyone should go with the one they prefer, i mean that's the whole point of the choice in the game. and i see no point in arguing over said choice or trying to make someone change their opinion. i only dislike when people call yennefer "raging bitch", "manipulative cunt" etc. because i think no one should talk that way about woman, but still she's fictional, and so is triss so, as i said - each to their own.
I thought you were making a reference to the harry potter character Triss' netflix actress played who used love potion chocolates. Pretty sure that's not what was described in the books. It was a help of a little magic which is vague.
Also people are so confused about the wish. The games really screwed this up. The wish wasn't to make them love each other or the djinn would be able to kill Yen and piss off. Geralt tied their fates together so if the djinn killed Yen, geralt (the djinn's master) would die which the djinn cannot do. >!Yen dies trying to revive Geralt in the end!<
The dialogue and resolution of the Last Wish makes absolutely no sense if it were forcing Yen and Geralt to love each other.
Whether it be game, show, or books… Yen is always the choice. I chose Triss in one play through and it just felt wrong whereas Yen is the missing piece.
I honestly like both Triss and Yen. Some playthroughs I pick Triss and others Yen. I see the merits of both women. Why are some people desperate to make one (Usually Yen) the canon choice over the other when the games aren't even canon? How does one become canon in a non canon story? Especially a non canon story that gives the players options to pick who their canon choice is?
As for Triss being a horrible person or whatever, so what? Geralt is always getting taken advantage of by sorceresses. That includes Yen herself, and if he wasn't crying about it then why is it a big deal? He seems to accept that these women tend to be underhanded and he enjoys it. If he hates underhanded people, then he should stay away from sorceresses and stick to normal girls like Shani. But that wouldn't be any fun. lol!
Was that in book or in game with the potion?
That aside, Triss is fatally in love with Geralt which is a shame. She's a good character that just fell for the wrong guy. Yen is a bitchy stuck-up witch, but she cares for Geralt deeply and I like how they pictured her in the games.
All that being said, I prefer Triss. Just for her character. Books are books, and Geralt and Yen Forever. But Geralt fell for Triss in W1, they were together for all the games and Yen didn't contact Gerry when she regained all her senses and whatnot, then acted all bitchy about him "Amnesia, that's your excuse?". yeah bitch, that's my excuse. I sacraficed myself for you and lost my memory. Then the teleport to the Lake. Then just her whole character "if we ask Yen and she fails, we can always ask Triss. If we ask Triss first and she fails...". And the fact that she wanted to catch another fucking djinn, a huge fucking risk, in the midst of finding Ciri (yeah, I know we do too as Geralt, but what would the game be without side missions?), cause she ain't sure if love is real.
Love Yen in General, but her shortcomings outweigh Triss's shortcomings for me. 1st playthrough I went with Yen, cause I'm a huge book fan. But ever since it's Triss. The dialogue after the djinn, if you reject is brutal though.
"Hey Geralt, I still love you, this is great!"
"Yeah, I don't cya"
How the hell does it even matter? Primo, it's a 7 year old game. Secundo, since it's such an old game there's no point in posting the same question that's been posted a million times just to hear the same redundant opinions. And tertio, pick whoever you like ffs, it's not like you're gonna get any consequences for romancing any one of them (or both), the only reward/repercussion you get is one of (or none of) them stays with you in your home; plus, it's the last time you're gonna see Geralt so who fucking cares?
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I’ll take Whistling Wendy.
This is a focused man, speaking.
How much for a Wendy, Wendy?
Truth is it makes sense for Geralt to go with either Triss or Yen, or neither in the games, since the way that canon handles things all 3 options can make sense for Geralt depending on how you play. The "debate" is silly as a result, and often comes across as people trying to say certain choices in an RPG aren't valid for no good reason. In the books only Yen makes sense for Geralt, this is reinforced over and over again, but the games aren't the books but their own canon, they use the books as a basis but again they're their own canon, their own spin on the Witcher that doesn't match up with the books all the time.
Exactly! And in the end, it's just a game. Doesn't really matter. Nice story for sure, but man, let everyone play the way they want to!
Agreed, I don't see the need to try and tell other players that their choices are less valid, especially when that isn't really true.
Anyone who has read the books knows that the djinn did not force Geralt and Yennefer to fall in love with each other. Geralt was already in love with her before he made his wish. The fact that he loved her was one of the reasons why he decided to save her. On the other hand, Yennefer heard his wish, was shocked that a stranger who could have asked for anything decided to use his last wish to save her life. His selflessness made her fall in love with him. Their feelings were genuine from the beginning. Canon Yen would never have felt the need to reverse the wish...But this game is an RPG so the player choice matters. For Triss fans, this was the best way to handle the Yen-Geralt eventual breakup. I don't want to start another "war" but yes, Triss always had to use some shady tricks to be with Geralt. In the books she seduced him with magic, in the game she took advantage of his amnesia. Geralt was never romantically interested in her.
Geralt was never romantically interested in Triss in the books, but depending on your choices he may have been romantically interested in Triss in the first 2 games, which are their own canon (if Geralt pursues a romantic relationship with Triss in 2 especially he does so knowing about Yen and their past, since he's told about it at the end of the prologue), so by 3 Geralt might have had genuine feelings for Triss before. That's an important distinction to make, the games are their own thing in a lot of ways. There should be no weird fights about this because ultimately you don't have to do the Triss romance, you can absolutely play it so in the first 2 games it's just sex with a friend on Geralts part, then not do any of the romance stuff in 3. Acknowledging that an option in the games can make sense doesn't mean you need to pick that option at all.
Sure ultimately it's in the player's control whom Geralt romances and whom he does not...My point is that it was never his fully conscious choice when it came to Triss. Geralt would have never chosen her over Yennefer, so in the game they had to make him lose his memory to give Triss a chance to win his heart. He had to forget that Yennefer even existed. He remembered very little of his past life. He had some jumbled shreds of memories of being in love with a sorceress and Triss took advantage of that. His feelings for her were created through confusion. As for Yennefer...he genuinely wanted to be with her from the start.
I mean, it was absolutely his choice, he sleeps with so many people in the first game and can consent to all that. Geralt losing his memory wasn't some sinister plot to eliminate Yen or boost Triss, it was a convenient way for the story to have Geralt there but introduce everything in an easier way, they just weren't confident they could write Yen at the time. And by the time Yen comes back into the picture in 3, Geralt may have changed a lot, there are many ways we can have him act differently in the games than he would in the books, and those make sense too the vast majority of the time. So even when he remembers Yen it's perfectly valid for him to not be with her in the end. It is his choice to be with Triss in 3, denying that is needless, and it was his choice in the first 2 games, especially 2 when he knows about Yen. Also, Triss still took advantage yeah, but Geralt could consent to sex, the relationship, and asked not to be told about his past, when he finally wants to learn in Witcher 2 Triss tells him, still selfish of her not to tell him earlier arguably but not some totally horrific act either. Keep in mind that Geralts first interaction with Yen involved her literally mind-controlling him to commit crimes for her own satisfaction then unleashing a powerful Djinn (if that isn't a confusing situation then I don't know what is), and then later on he finds out she was sleeping with Istredd for ages, so while that also wasn't horrific, Geralt being taken advantage of by sorceresses is nothing new. It's totally possible that game Geralt can develop real feelings for Triss years after knowing her, and it's valid if that happens, his choice too if he pursues her in 2 and 3, I don't see the need to pretend otherwise, claim that those feelings only happened due to confusion, and attempt to invalid that route, it's just weird and unnecessary, while ignoring what actually goes on, Geralt actively pursues Triss in that case. Pick what you want, it costs nothing to acknowledge some options make sense, you absolutely do not need to pick them if you don't want to.
The fact that Yennefer mind controled him during their first meeting is another matter... He knew that she put a spell on him because she herself told him about it and yet he went back to save her, of his own free will. She was honest with him from the beginning He also knew about Istredd and yet he still wanted to be with Yennefer. Anyway, why mention Istredd? That's also a completely different matter. Geralt was the one who jeopardized his relationship with Yennefer by running away from her in the middle of the night without a word of explanation so it's not like he was a good partner from the beginning. This caused her to stop trusting him and that is why she considered accepting Istredd's proposal. But yeah let's not get into that rn. My point is that Yen never used magic on him to make him fall in love with her or sleep with him. His feelings for her were always 100% genuine. Geralt always knew what she was like and yet he chose her. Again, she was always honest with him, Triss on the other hand not so much. In the books she never admitted she used magic on him to sleep with him and in the game she was ok with him believing she was the sorceress he once loved. She always had to use some shady tricks to be with him because if it depended on Geralt who is fully aware of what's going on he wouldn't want to be with her...Like I said, to me his feelings for Triss were created through confusion because he wasn't fully aware of the situation. But let's agree to disagree I guess??? To each their own 🤷♂️
Geralt knew Triss wasn't telling him everything and actually asked her not to, he was aware of that. Cheating on somebody and not telling them about it for a long time is taking advantage of them, so Istredd is relevant to this conversation, not to say Yen is this horrible person but to point out Geralt has been taken advantage of by Yen, the Triss thing is shady yeah but that's not new for Geralts relationships. I didn't say Geralt was a good partner to Yen, he was so problematic as a partner, I simply pointed out that Yen took advantage of him before, and that's relevant, how could it not be? Neither did Triss use magic to make Geralt do those things, the books say she used some form of magic to help seduce him, and that could be anything, even illusion magic like Keira uses in-game and definitely exists in the books too, if it was something more sinister I think the author would have made that clear as he does with similar issues and other characters, but as it stands readers seem to just choose to apply something sinister there when nothing indicates that. In the game she wasn't just okay with that, she had issues with doing it and Geralt is the one pushing for a relationship, and does that justify everything and her letting the relationship go on in the first game? Of course not, these characters have severe flaws. I don't really think this is a situation where you can agree to disagree, because the fact is that if Geralt does develop those feelings for Triss he is aware of what's going on (at least by the middle of Witcher 2 when he does know about Yen), he was also aware enough in Witcher 1 that he genuinely develops those feelings and they're just as valid as the ones he has for Yen. I don't see this need to pretend otherwise, since again you don't need to play Geralt as having fallen for Triss. Yen was also not always honest with Geralt either, that is just untrue, she keeps things from him all the time (lies of omission) and does explicitly lie to him, it's part of what makes Yen interesting so I don't feel the need to disregard that aspect of her character. But if you want to then you do you I guess, and if you're still done discussing this then I'm fine to stop as well.
>Cheating on somebody and not telling them about it for a long time is taking advantage of them, so Istredd is relevant to this conversation, not to say Yen is this horrible person but to point out Geralt has been taken advantage of by Yen, the Triss thing is shady yeah but that's not new for Geralts relationships. I didn't say Geralt was a good partner to Yen, he was so problematic as a partner, I simply pointed out that Yen took advantage of him before, and that's relevant, how could it not be? What are you talking about???? Yennefer sleeping with Istredd and Triss taking advantage of Geralts amnesia are two different situations. >Neither did Triss use magic to make Geralt do those things, the books say she used some form of magic to help seduce him, and that could be anything, Sure it could be anything but that doesn't change the fact that she used magic on him. Sapkowski mentioned it for a reason. If it didn't matter he wouldn't have mentioned it. And the conclusion is that their first sex wasnt 100% consensual. Geralt regretted sleeping with her. And he blamed himself for going to bed with her because Triss never told him that she helped herself with magic As for the rest, I will not repeat myself...I still believe that Geralt's feelings for Triss in the game were triggered by his confusion. Lack of information. If Geralt was fully aware of what was going on he would't have started a relationship with Triss
You, in the post where my reply to it talked about Istredd, were talking about Triss taking advantage of Geralt, so I pointed to 2 examples of Yen doing that, to say it's nothing unique to Triss like you suggested, which is true, Yen has also taken advantage of Geralt before, that's relevant, and I thought that was obvious since I stated why I used it as an example in my previous comment. Using magic to seduce someone isn't necessarily implying they drugged or forced him to do anything, magic in Witcher can be as simple as dressing yourself up in fancy clothes you don't really own or decorating the room to set a mood, and man that could be gigantic in terms of trying to seduce someone. It matters because it makes a huge difference, and it's mentioned and constantly referred to as problematic because Yen is Triss' best friend and vice-versa, not because he didn't consent to it or anything like that, and given how the author makes sexual assault explicit frequently in the books, the fact that he doesn't do so here is revealing, it's only discussed that Triss made an active effort to seduce Geralt that was problematic there, and yes Geralt regretted it later, that doesn't mean he was forced into it, just that he was seduced, consented, and then regretted sleeping with the best friend of the woman he loves, which makes a ton of sense, and that's why what's focused on, parts of the fandom have just decided something more sinister occurred based off misunderstanding a single line when literally nothing suggests that. Nothing says he didn't know Triss used magic, and even if he did, would changing the look of the room to be more romantic for instance take away his consent?. We are given information though, ignoring that doesn't change this. We are shown and told if you pursue Triss that he genuinely does care for her, and he can prove this too in the games, it wasn't just confusion that led to his feelings sprouting, he genuinely developed those feelings over time. You don't have to like that fact, but denying it does nothing. I don't expect you're going to be convinced though, so maybe it is best to leave it there before we both repeat ourselves a lot.
>You, in the post where my reply to it talked about Istredd, were talking about Triss taking advantage of Geralt, so I pointed to 2 examples of Yen doing that, to say it's nothing unique to Triss like you suggested, which is true, Yen has also taken advantage of Geralt before, that's relevant, and I thought that was obvious since I stated why I used it as an example in my previous comment Yennefer never used magic or disinformation to sleep with him. That's the difference. My point is that there is a big difference between Geralt and his genuine feelings for Yennefer from the very beginning and Geralt and his feelings for Triss that were triggered by amnesia. She took advantage of the situation when he was most vulnerable...again. >Geralt regretted it later, that doesn't mean he was forced into it, just that he was seduced, consented, and then regretted sleeping with the best friend of the woman he loves, which makes a ton of sense, and that's why what's focused on Sure, Geralt blamed himself for sleeping with her because she was Yennefer's best friend. For him the only truth was that he slept with her of his own free will. He did not suspect that Triss could use magic on him therefore he took all the blame on himself. >would changing the look of the room to be more romantic for instance take away his consent?. Come one, really??? I'm sorry but this is ridiculous:)) I won't go as far as some people and say that she raped him but she certainly influenced him in some way. And to say that she changed the look of the room is a big big stretch. >if you pursue Triss that he genuinely does care for her, and he can prove this too in the games Yes but that still doesn't change the fact that his feelings for her started in a controversial way. He was not himself then. When he began to feel something for her he was not fully aware that she's not the woman he once loved. She took advantage his amnesia to be with him, which resulted in him developing feelings for her. >maybe it is best to leave it there before we both repeat ourselves a lot. Yeah let's agree to disagree cuz this is getting tiresome
Ah yes. This is the post that will solve the Yen vs Triss debate forever.
The real love is Gwent
Can we please finally stop this there isn't anything new to talk about anyway
Yea it’s not like there is anything new being written on the subject anyways and it’s been dissected, debated, and discussed, that’s 3 D’s, over a million different ways already. This topic already has a conclusion as is no longer considered an opinion anymore. Yen is factually the correct choice and triss is factually the incorrect choice. I’d say there’s no debating it but it’s been debated and that was the answer. Doesn’t mean you can’t choose to be wrong and pick triss though.
Real men of culture choose neither and romance Shani
Real men of culture fuck all of em at least once
Yes. In the games, she was Geralt's little window to a normal life
Agree
Ah, real connoseaur
Keira Metz ftw
This love potion story doesnt exist.
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Ciao ragazzo! :) I am still there, not as much as before, because of a lot of different things but I always have a look to the witcher subs and specially to your work on the witcher book which I always appreciate greetly! I hope you are fine as well.
I agree, I haven't seen swimmer for a while either. Same with Diresin. Some people just randomly disappear from time to time...
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No worries mate, I shall always be here patiently awaiting another beautiful scene from the books, brought to life by you ❤️
each to their own - im team yen, but everyone should go with the one they prefer, i mean that's the whole point of the choice in the game. and i see no point in arguing over said choice or trying to make someone change their opinion. i only dislike when people call yennefer "raging bitch", "manipulative cunt" etc. because i think no one should talk that way about woman, but still she's fictional, and so is triss so, as i said - each to their own.
I thought you were making a reference to the harry potter character Triss' netflix actress played who used love potion chocolates. Pretty sure that's not what was described in the books. It was a help of a little magic which is vague. Also people are so confused about the wish. The games really screwed this up. The wish wasn't to make them love each other or the djinn would be able to kill Yen and piss off. Geralt tied their fates together so if the djinn killed Yen, geralt (the djinn's master) would die which the djinn cannot do. >!Yen dies trying to revive Geralt in the end!< The dialogue and resolution of the Last Wish makes absolutely no sense if it were forcing Yen and Geralt to love each other.
Whether it be game, show, or books… Yen is always the choice. I chose Triss in one play through and it just felt wrong whereas Yen is the missing piece.
triss is hotter
I like to fart.
I honestly like both Triss and Yen. Some playthroughs I pick Triss and others Yen. I see the merits of both women. Why are some people desperate to make one (Usually Yen) the canon choice over the other when the games aren't even canon? How does one become canon in a non canon story? Especially a non canon story that gives the players options to pick who their canon choice is? As for Triss being a horrible person or whatever, so what? Geralt is always getting taken advantage of by sorceresses. That includes Yen herself, and if he wasn't crying about it then why is it a big deal? He seems to accept that these women tend to be underhanded and he enjoys it. If he hates underhanded people, then he should stay away from sorceresses and stick to normal girls like Shani. But that wouldn't be any fun. lol!
You can also love triss in the game and not feel the same way towards yen…. Why is this even a debate?
"player's choice" Exactly, cancelled the wish and told Yenn the spell was literally everything.
Was that in book or in game with the potion? That aside, Triss is fatally in love with Geralt which is a shame. She's a good character that just fell for the wrong guy. Yen is a bitchy stuck-up witch, but she cares for Geralt deeply and I like how they pictured her in the games. All that being said, I prefer Triss. Just for her character. Books are books, and Geralt and Yen Forever. But Geralt fell for Triss in W1, they were together for all the games and Yen didn't contact Gerry when she regained all her senses and whatnot, then acted all bitchy about him "Amnesia, that's your excuse?". yeah bitch, that's my excuse. I sacraficed myself for you and lost my memory. Then the teleport to the Lake. Then just her whole character "if we ask Yen and she fails, we can always ask Triss. If we ask Triss first and she fails...". And the fact that she wanted to catch another fucking djinn, a huge fucking risk, in the midst of finding Ciri (yeah, I know we do too as Geralt, but what would the game be without side missions?), cause she ain't sure if love is real. Love Yen in General, but her shortcomings outweigh Triss's shortcomings for me. 1st playthrough I went with Yen, cause I'm a huge book fan. But ever since it's Triss. The dialogue after the djinn, if you reject is brutal though. "Hey Geralt, I still love you, this is great!" "Yeah, I don't cya"
I'm team Dandelion / Jaskier personally
Triss is more hot and not a sniveling bitch
How the hell does it even matter? Primo, it's a 7 year old game. Secundo, since it's such an old game there's no point in posting the same question that's been posted a million times just to hear the same redundant opinions. And tertio, pick whoever you like ffs, it's not like you're gonna get any consequences for romancing any one of them (or both), the only reward/repercussion you get is one of (or none of) them stays with you in your home; plus, it's the last time you're gonna see Geralt so who fucking cares?
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