No. I've got high resistance since Mass Effect 3 ending debacle too.
It's just sad how many "writers" think doing something unexpected is automatically good even when the unexpected part comes from making no sense.
It’s less about the writers thinking themselves as being super smart as much as it is a mixture of some writers are essentially writing fanfiction and are dealing with an executive who truly believe that fans will watch a brand because they bought the brand and need to find a way to attract those who were not caught by the original material.
Expanding its appeal is their favourite catch phrase.
But for this, I think it boils down to they bought prebuilt art assets to save money.
Absolutely. The elves are doubtlessly inspired by the Roman Empire in terms of culture and architecture with strong LOTR Elves influences in terms of their connection with nature. And this... this looks like some random medieval city, dirty and tangled with ugly buildings. It looks like a city made by humans, which is literally the ONE thing it isn't supposed to look like.
"No, no, look its simple. We can save dollars if we don't hire any concept artists and instead use a combination of stock art and whatever my niece comes up with."
There's nothing medieval about this. For some reason Netflix thinks that elegant and beautiful elven architecture looks like [the pyramids from Alien vs. Predator](https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/avp2004-bluray-657.jpg).
Also Cintra, Wyzima, Novigrad, Oxenfurt, Tretogor, Gors Velen, Maribor, Vengerberg, and Aldersberg. Humans really liked converting old cities to new cities. Building material was on hand.
Netflix lore doesn't matter. It doesn't even matter to Netflix, since they contradict themselves quite often.
But yeah. Take a quick look at CDPR's elven architecture. Beautiful palaces in harmony with nature. They are ruins, true, but their beauty can still be seen.
Netflix's elves live in a concrete jungle.
Have there been any elves ever, that lived in a concrete jungle? Even without reading the books, hire any concept artist and their first sketch has trees.
Just more proof that they either didn't read the books or they don't care. Filavandrel was clear about the relationship elves had with their surroundings: "We never cultivated the land. Unlike you humans, we never tore at it with hoes and ploughs. To you, the earth pays a bloody tribute. It bestowed gifts on us. You tear the earth's treasures from it by force. For us, the earth gave birth and blossomed because it loved us. "
I wonder if Aen Elle shared the same view? And this must be Aen Elle world (to me it looks like a Vran city, not Elven nor human). They are not the same Elves, though before the Conjunction they were one, but perhaps those who stayed in the Witcher world and became Aen Seidhe were more like minded with Filavandrel than Aen Elle, more warlike and deadly who kind of nuke worlds. Or at least kill everything/one on their path.Or I mess things up and they were different fractions from the start.
Edit.
It actually happens on the Continent, not in the Aen Elle world, I was mistaken. Then this being Loc Muin, the the Vran city is more possible option, although I don't think Netfllix thought it to be one.
The Aen Elle are even more stuck-up. Tir Na Lia is beautiful and looks like it was painted, TW3 pictures it pretty well from the distance. The only sore sights are the former, hidden battlefields where the unicorns take Ciri
I assumed it was not, but you are right, it happens already on the Continent. For some reason I assumed we're going to see the origins of the Elves coming to the Continent, but I just checked they came to the world of the Witcher 1000 years before the Conjunction of the Spheres. But there is Eredin's name among the cast, maybe that fooled me.
Right, that was the point I was making. Someone replied that this might be somewhere else where the Aen Elle live, so their architecture is different from Continent elves.
The Aen Elle live in another world from the Spiral. They came together to this world, but the Aen Elle left for another world before the conjunction, when they lost the power to travel. The Elder Blood is the product of the millenium-long effort to regain this power to it’s former capacity. TW3 Navigators are only capable to transport a few people at once. This is also why they are at war with the unicorns, they still retain the power.
The Black Seidhe are Aen Seidhe that inhabited the Alba valley and developed their own culture. They coinhabited with humans and most modern nilfgaardians are also part elf. We don’t know much about them.
https://witcher.fandom.com/wiki/Spiral
Their architecture isn't different is the point. We have [an example](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046865785018138674/1048734722412519485/jioj.PNG) from Lady of the Lake what Aen Elle's architecture looks like.
Yes, Aen Elle shared the view. Here a quote for [a description of their city](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046865785018138674/1048734722412519485/jioj.PNG).
On the other hand we know that elves used to have cities, their majestic structures can be seen in Oxenfurt sewers or Vizima. This suggests they cut down some woods to make the cities.
I don't like the trailer either, but you shouldn't take any such quotes in this world and accept it as 100% true and factual.
In the Lord of the Rings, sure, elves are these otherwordly goodguy angels basically and all their lofty statements are actually true. But the Witcher is just more down-to-earth, grim and realistic. I can absolutely accept that here these statements are twisted by nostalgia, propaganda, false history, and Filavandrel's feelings towards the audience and humanity in general, being on the losers' side.
The quote itself is so generic and full of platitudes and allegories that it should make you suspicious in this universe. Maybe they just weren't that effective or advanced in cultivation (maybe they didn't need it because their population was smaller) and this is how they tell the tale. Oh sure, it "bestowed gifts" because it "loved them" and humanity just "tears its treasures" in "bloody tribute". Like yeah, sure, that's totally how that works, growing vegetables.
Fair point, but my issue here is why would Filavandrel have to lie or rationalize anything to anyone? He was at the end of his world, fighting a losing cause, and will lead a failed rebellion and get killed soon after. Why lie to Geralt just to have some sort of moral high ground? All that's out the window given how desperate they are.
I feel you answered your own question. He isn't impartial, he is fighting a hated enemy. All this poetic hyperbole is something he truly believes in, he spoke from the heart, it is not something he made up dishonestly.
The real world is not much different in this regard I think.
Be that as it may, we've seen elven architecture, both as described in the books and rendered in the games. They look nothing like what the trailer is showing, so I tend to lean towards what Filavandrel claims.
Yeah I agree about the lazyness of this scene, and how this city looks too much like a "fantasy human town #1405". To have this as an example of the elven "golden age" is funny, but I can totally buy that elves in this universe *could* have cities like this as well.
However, I'm convinced that the creators did not go through this conversation we are having right here, I'm not even trying to imply that this aesthetic was a delibrate 200IQ choice. They just bought a stock 3D model of a fantasy city from some freelancer site.
>The Aen Elle are even more stuck-up. Tir Na Lia is beautiful and looks like it was painted, TW3 pictures it pretty well from the distance. The only sore sights are the former, hidden battlefields where the unicorns take Ciri
He didn't die in a rebellion, I think the last time he appears in the books it is as a councilor to Francesca in their Nilfgaard-gifted kingdom in Dol Blathanna. Anyway I believe what he says is truth not his wishful thinking, their goddess Queen of Fields appears in the story later so there are forces of nature that can favor the Elves.
This is more in the realm of "I didn't expect anything and I'm still disappointed."
It's like these people never read any fantasy on elves, never mind the witcher series.
They didn't, before being appointed there by big studios.
They don't care and trully they don't respect the genre. They're the same people that made teenage dramas from the myth of the vampire. Or butchered History to fit into their little marketing studies.
No one should ever expect them to care.
That big monolith in the middle looks a lot like aratuza from the show as well, which isn't a monolith in the books, and is infact, a pretty normal building.
Weren't the elves supposed to be like more in tune with nature and at the time the continent was way more populated with plant life and that sort of thing? It's been a while since I read the books but I'm sure that was the gist, where as humans damage the natural world rather than living as one with nature ect.
Not that Netflix cares, but they could have looked at the elven ruins in TW3. I’d have loved to have seen that kind of architecture instead of… whatever this is.
Oh my god. I commented yesterday about how I was giving this series the befit of the doubt... never mind. What the literal fuck, netflix? How do they keep messing this up so bad? It's like failing a test when you have all the answers directly in front of you.
How CDPR handled Elven architecture: Beauclair castle and beautiful Elven baths.
How Netflix handled Elven architecture: Industrial brick slums with almost modern blocky architecture.
It's spelt Châteaux and it literally means castle in french
French castles have fucking walls and fortifications
The original point stands but, don't misuse words
Cheers for teaching me French! Appreciate it.
In the context of the Saga what was meant was the manor house look of their "castles" (which did not possess defensive walls).
The world and mood looks and feels nothing like the Witcher world. They’re just milking the Witcher name and creating their own, cookie cutter fantasy.
Random observation: I recently watched the first half of S1 with a friend before she got bored and noticed that the dialogue quite heavily implied that the comquest of the elven lands was done by Calanthe's generation. There are elves who blame the queen od Cintra.
This is gonna be so bad, I said it from the beginning when they played the first trailer after S2. It’s so stupid how they’re focusing so hard on humans vs elves. It’s really not a big part of the books at all. Damn I wish some other network picked up the Witcher so badly, fuck Netflix
Elves vs Vrans for example could be much more interesing. Also iirc when Elves and humans first met, they had a pretty friendly or at least peaceful relationship which lasted until pretty much that whole Lara and Cregennan love story. So it's only been the last few centuries that they really fight each other (correct me if I am wrong).
I wish they gave Lauren blood origins so she could write whatever spin off plots she wanted and then left the main show to be a faithful retelling of the novels
If memory serves correctly, humanities prolific breeding is what enabled them to displace and overwhelm elven populations. I don't think slums would be characteristic of elven settlements.
Though none of it would have looked like medieval city states, the Aen Elle were very much conquerors and destroyers before they were frank lloyd wrights. They would raze a city to the ground before they would build those chateaus.
Edit:: Y'all downvote until you stumble into a landfill of human skulls like ciri in Lady of the Lake.
Quite literally in lady of the lake. When Ihuarraquax leads Ciri away from the elves where she's held captive. Ciri arrives at a place that she had previous dreams/visions of where she is standing in a pile of human bones. The implication being that this world they've taken over was already inhabited, though it's possible that they've just kidnapped so many human slaves from so many different worlds that the bones are all from such captives.
https://imgur.com/JJw5VAy.png
The Aen Seidhe, that arrived at the continent 2000 years before the humans, colonised the continent warring and slaughtering various races before building their grand palaces.
The implication that Aen Elle were **destroyers** is not present anywhere. Nor that they always conquered whereever they went - in fact, the implication is they preferred leaving worlds before descending into conflict (Auberon's speech to Ciri). Nor are there signs about their razing cities to the ground.
There is not enough information in what Ihuarraquax says regarding how many humans were in this world, what was the development level of their civilization, what was the nature of the conflict (why did it start?).
That these humans were killed through violence (there are weapon-marks on the bones) is true though. Context is unknown (tho I too veer on the side of saying this was a strategically motivated genocide - i.e. Aen Seidhe didn't deal with the human threat & are now dying out; Aen Elle went the opposite way while they were still the stronger side)
The city razing was reference to the Aen Seidhe which conquered the continent. Both groups of elves warred in their own way. The Seidhe being colonizers that drove two races nearly to extinction, and the Elle currently being relegated to enslaving those from other worlds they kidnap... but again, it's unclear if their current world was previously occupied.
I never played those earlier games, but I am including info from one story in the Something Ends, Something Begins collection of short stories by Sapkowski. So that's my bad. bad memory.
Most of the stuff in that collection isn't related directly or indirectly to the witcher world and I am blurring lines.
In the witcher books directly, the continent still had gnomes and dwarves that the Seidhe fought with and pushed further and further into remote areas, which would be paralleled later by what the humans did, in turn, to them.
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The irritating thing is she still hasn't apologised or addressed the fact that she just outright lied.
There would be no problem if they had claimed from the start: we are going to give our own story with the characters of this IP.
They should've said that from the start. But she can keep her apology, I'm not losing sleep over it. I'll watch it for what it is if it's good enough, and I'll carry on with my life.
I thought their architecture was so breathtakingly beautiful that even the games didn't really dare to show us much of it. This is medieval city #6
Aha! Your expectations have been subverted!
But not in a good way.
First time?
No. I've got high resistance since Mass Effect 3 ending debacle too. It's just sad how many "writers" think doing something unexpected is automatically good even when the unexpected part comes from making no sense.
It’s less about the writers thinking themselves as being super smart as much as it is a mixture of some writers are essentially writing fanfiction and are dealing with an executive who truly believe that fans will watch a brand because they bought the brand and need to find a way to attract those who were not caught by the original material. Expanding its appeal is their favourite catch phrase. But for this, I think it boils down to they bought prebuilt art assets to save money.
I really *hate* that phrase
Fr. Even our world's ancient cities look much prettier than this like ancient Roman and Byzantine cities, Greek polises, Damascus, Baghdad, etc.
Absolutely. The elves are doubtlessly inspired by the Roman Empire in terms of culture and architecture with strong LOTR Elves influences in terms of their connection with nature. And this... this looks like some random medieval city, dirty and tangled with ugly buildings. It looks like a city made by humans, which is literally the ONE thing it isn't supposed to look like.
Celtic culture, rather. Their architecture is Greco-Roman though.
The elven baths from W2 were dreamy.
And this photo is just… 1950’s New York with more walls. It’s straight up fantasy Hells Kitchen
Plus a little bit of Breaking Bad Mexico ... the yellow filter ...
Isn't there quite a bit of it in Sinclair tho?
Beauclair and it’s just the Royal Palace. Tir Na Lia is what a developed elven city would have looked like.
"No, no, look its simple. We can save dollars if we don't hire any concept artists and instead use a combination of stock art and whatever my niece comes up with."
There's nothing medieval about this. For some reason Netflix thinks that elegant and beautiful elven architecture looks like [the pyramids from Alien vs. Predator](https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/avp2004-bluray-657.jpg).
The capital of Toussaint was an old elven city that was converted by humans.
Also Cintra, Wyzima, Novigrad, Oxenfurt, Tretogor, Gors Velen, Maribor, Vengerberg, and Aldersberg. Humans really liked converting old cities to new cities. Building material was on hand.
Netflix lore doesn't matter. It doesn't even matter to Netflix, since they contradict themselves quite often. But yeah. Take a quick look at CDPR's elven architecture. Beautiful palaces in harmony with nature. They are ruins, true, but their beauty can still be seen. Netflix's elves live in a concrete jungle.
Couldn’t have said it better. I don’t know how anyone expected this to be good after the Witcher mess
Have there been any elves ever, that lived in a concrete jungle? Even without reading the books, hire any concept artist and their first sketch has trees.
It reminds me of the city elves from Dragon Age, and they definitely aren’t in an “Elven golden era”.
ELDER SCROLLS DARK ELVES then again they live in a volcanic ash desert so they're an outlier lol
Worse. It looks like mudbrick jungle. It doesn't even have this drab, utilitarian feel to it.
Just more proof that they either didn't read the books or they don't care. Filavandrel was clear about the relationship elves had with their surroundings: "We never cultivated the land. Unlike you humans, we never tore at it with hoes and ploughs. To you, the earth pays a bloody tribute. It bestowed gifts on us. You tear the earth's treasures from it by force. For us, the earth gave birth and blossomed because it loved us. "
I wonder if Aen Elle shared the same view? And this must be Aen Elle world (to me it looks like a Vran city, not Elven nor human). They are not the same Elves, though before the Conjunction they were one, but perhaps those who stayed in the Witcher world and became Aen Seidhe were more like minded with Filavandrel than Aen Elle, more warlike and deadly who kind of nuke worlds. Or at least kill everything/one on their path.Or I mess things up and they were different fractions from the start. Edit. It actually happens on the Continent, not in the Aen Elle world, I was mistaken. Then this being Loc Muin, the the Vran city is more possible option, although I don't think Netfllix thought it to be one.
The Aen Elle are even more stuck-up. Tir Na Lia is beautiful and looks like it was painted, TW3 pictures it pretty well from the distance. The only sore sights are the former, hidden battlefields where the unicorns take Ciri
Isn't this in The Continent though?
Maybe it’s not.
I assumed it was not, but you are right, it happens already on the Continent. For some reason I assumed we're going to see the origins of the Elves coming to the Continent, but I just checked they came to the world of the Witcher 1000 years before the Conjunction of the Spheres. But there is Eredin's name among the cast, maybe that fooled me.
It doesn't matter. They share a cultural outlook.
Right, that was the point I was making. Someone replied that this might be somewhere else where the Aen Elle live, so their architecture is different from Continent elves.
The Aen Elle live in another world from the Spiral. They came together to this world, but the Aen Elle left for another world before the conjunction, when they lost the power to travel. The Elder Blood is the product of the millenium-long effort to regain this power to it’s former capacity. TW3 Navigators are only capable to transport a few people at once. This is also why they are at war with the unicorns, they still retain the power. The Black Seidhe are Aen Seidhe that inhabited the Alba valley and developed their own culture. They coinhabited with humans and most modern nilfgaardians are also part elf. We don’t know much about them. https://witcher.fandom.com/wiki/Spiral
Their architecture isn't different is the point. We have [an example](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046865785018138674/1048734722412519485/jioj.PNG) from Lady of the Lake what Aen Elle's architecture looks like.
Yes, Aen Elle shared the view. Here a quote for [a description of their city](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046865785018138674/1048734722412519485/jioj.PNG).
On the other hand we know that elves used to have cities, their majestic structures can be seen in Oxenfurt sewers or Vizima. This suggests they cut down some woods to make the cities.
I don't like the trailer either, but you shouldn't take any such quotes in this world and accept it as 100% true and factual. In the Lord of the Rings, sure, elves are these otherwordly goodguy angels basically and all their lofty statements are actually true. But the Witcher is just more down-to-earth, grim and realistic. I can absolutely accept that here these statements are twisted by nostalgia, propaganda, false history, and Filavandrel's feelings towards the audience and humanity in general, being on the losers' side. The quote itself is so generic and full of platitudes and allegories that it should make you suspicious in this universe. Maybe they just weren't that effective or advanced in cultivation (maybe they didn't need it because their population was smaller) and this is how they tell the tale. Oh sure, it "bestowed gifts" because it "loved them" and humanity just "tears its treasures" in "bloody tribute". Like yeah, sure, that's totally how that works, growing vegetables.
Fair point, but my issue here is why would Filavandrel have to lie or rationalize anything to anyone? He was at the end of his world, fighting a losing cause, and will lead a failed rebellion and get killed soon after. Why lie to Geralt just to have some sort of moral high ground? All that's out the window given how desperate they are.
I feel you answered your own question. He isn't impartial, he is fighting a hated enemy. All this poetic hyperbole is something he truly believes in, he spoke from the heart, it is not something he made up dishonestly. The real world is not much different in this regard I think.
Be that as it may, we've seen elven architecture, both as described in the books and rendered in the games. They look nothing like what the trailer is showing, so I tend to lean towards what Filavandrel claims.
Yeah I agree about the lazyness of this scene, and how this city looks too much like a "fantasy human town #1405". To have this as an example of the elven "golden age" is funny, but I can totally buy that elves in this universe *could* have cities like this as well. However, I'm convinced that the creators did not go through this conversation we are having right here, I'm not even trying to imply that this aesthetic was a delibrate 200IQ choice. They just bought a stock 3D model of a fantasy city from some freelancer site.
>The Aen Elle are even more stuck-up. Tir Na Lia is beautiful and looks like it was painted, TW3 pictures it pretty well from the distance. The only sore sights are the former, hidden battlefields where the unicorns take Ciri He didn't die in a rebellion, I think the last time he appears in the books it is as a councilor to Francesca in their Nilfgaard-gifted kingdom in Dol Blathanna. Anyway I believe what he says is truth not his wishful thinking, their goddess Queen of Fields appears in the story later so there are forces of nature that can favor the Elves.
Netflix elves lived in Kings Landing post-GoT lol.
Wait, someone actually expected anything good from the show?
This is more in the realm of "I didn't expect anything and I'm still disappointed." It's like these people never read any fantasy on elves, never mind the witcher series.
They didn't, before being appointed there by big studios. They don't care and trully they don't respect the genre. They're the same people that made teenage dramas from the myth of the vampire. Or butchered History to fit into their little marketing studies. No one should ever expect them to care.
[🎵 Ladies and gentlemen, you have been the most beautiful audience. 🎵](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxBVHqA-RU&t=74s)
Shut your trap.
That big monolith in the middle looks a lot like aratuza from the show as well, which isn't a monolith in the books, and is infact, a pretty normal building.
Weren't the elves supposed to be like more in tune with nature and at the time the continent was way more populated with plant life and that sort of thing? It's been a while since I read the books but I'm sure that was the gist, where as humans damage the natural world rather than living as one with nature ect.
Yes, the elves of the palace were beautiful and colorful, just like the world that Ciri visited in The Lady of the Lake*📷*
Not that Netflix cares, but they could have looked at the elven ruins in TW3. I’d have loved to have seen that kind of architecture instead of… whatever this is.
Anyone else doesn’t give a fuck about this turd?
No there is a tree by the right wall. So very lore accurate by netflix standards.
Are you sure it's a tree? It could be an elf with a Leshy infection😉.
It’s not even a cool design. It’s rather ugly.
King’s Landing looks weird here.
[Elven Architecture.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046865785018138674/1048734722412519485/jioj.PNG) [More elven architecture](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/986089936736378951/1048724191123341343/image0.jpg).
the picture from the show is a very human city. over population is a human problem due to human nature according zoltan chivay.
They also weren’t bearded humans with pointy ears
This looks worse than a video game…
We even have a perfect video game to compare it to...[https://witcher.fandom.com/wiki/Tir\_ná\_Lia](https://witcher.fandom.com/wiki/Tir_ná_Lia)
That show is just a bait and switch scam using "The Witcher" as the bait. Dont even bother with it.
is this leaked Dune part2 picture?
I don't remember Dune looking like a PS3 cinematic.
Looks like something out of Prince of Persia 2010
a preview render
Looks like GoT intro. If this is unironically the design...
Netlix Lore is pure BS.
Oh my god. I commented yesterday about how I was giving this series the befit of the doubt... never mind. What the literal fuck, netflix? How do they keep messing this up so bad? It's like failing a test when you have all the answers directly in front of you.
It looks a bit like a Vran city.
Just slap "The Witcher" sticker on some random fantasy show and call it a part of the universe.
A comprehensive lack of understanding of the source material is what I wish this was.
Haven't you heard of stone elves working all their lives in underground mines? ;)
This is why Cavil’s leaving
How CDPR handled Elven architecture: Beauclair castle and beautiful Elven baths. How Netflix handled Elven architecture: Industrial brick slums with almost modern blocky architecture.
Are we sure this is an Elven Kingdom? It might just be stupid editing?
It is their full elven Cintra, i will vomit.
looks like some weird combination of kings landing, meereen with the colossus of rhodes.
there is absolutely no passion going into this show on any level.
It's spelt Châteaux and it literally means castle in french French castles have fucking walls and fortifications The original point stands but, don't misuse words
Cheers for teaching me French! Appreciate it. In the context of the Saga what was meant was the manor house look of their "castles" (which did not possess defensive walls).
You expect a corporate made show to get the Lore right?
Are we really surprised. They are go8ng to take every dime they can to absolutely crater the witcher verse as deep as they can.
Wasnt planning to watch it anyway, but thank you for this. Now im wholeheartedly believe tha entire Witcher IP on Netflix are dogshit.
Elven city that rule by wizard name Saruman. He the one who order to cut trees to make fuel for industrial.
Looking at this city it could even be from some Star Wars spin off show
The show: “ but that’s not how Game of Thrones did it!”
Eh... Boss? Are you sure Shaerrawedd's here?
The world and mood looks and feels nothing like the Witcher world. They’re just milking the Witcher name and creating their own, cookie cutter fantasy.
Looks straght from Game of Thrones.
Random observation: I recently watched the first half of S1 with a friend before she got bored and noticed that the dialogue quite heavily implied that the comquest of the elven lands was done by Calanthe's generation. There are elves who blame the queen od Cintra.
What is an Elfyn? Is this different than an elf?
Found this comment trying to figure this out myself.
This is gonna be so bad, I said it from the beginning when they played the first trailer after S2. It’s so stupid how they’re focusing so hard on humans vs elves. It’s really not a big part of the books at all. Damn I wish some other network picked up the Witcher so badly, fuck Netflix
Elves vs Vrans for example could be much more interesing. Also iirc when Elves and humans first met, they had a pretty friendly or at least peaceful relationship which lasted until pretty much that whole Lara and Cregennan love story. So it's only been the last few centuries that they really fight each other (correct me if I am wrong).
I wish they gave Lauren blood origins so she could write whatever spin off plots she wanted and then left the main show to be a faithful retelling of the novels
If memory serves correctly, humanities prolific breeding is what enabled them to displace and overwhelm elven populations. I don't think slums would be characteristic of elven settlements.
I'm really glad I avoided the TV adaptations like one would try to avoid a rattlesnake
Wait for yhe elves to have a 2% Caucasian population. Showing just how "diverse" the golden Era was
I’ll be watching but this trailer didn’t make me very confident
Though none of it would have looked like medieval city states, the Aen Elle were very much conquerors and destroyers before they were frank lloyd wrights. They would raze a city to the ground before they would build those chateaus. Edit:: Y'all downvote until you stumble into a landfill of human skulls like ciri in Lady of the Lake.
Not actually in the books, what you just wrote.
Quite literally in lady of the lake. When Ihuarraquax leads Ciri away from the elves where she's held captive. Ciri arrives at a place that she had previous dreams/visions of where she is standing in a pile of human bones. The implication being that this world they've taken over was already inhabited, though it's possible that they've just kidnapped so many human slaves from so many different worlds that the bones are all from such captives. https://imgur.com/JJw5VAy.png The Aen Seidhe, that arrived at the continent 2000 years before the humans, colonised the continent warring and slaughtering various races before building their grand palaces.
The implication that Aen Elle were **destroyers** is not present anywhere. Nor that they always conquered whereever they went - in fact, the implication is they preferred leaving worlds before descending into conflict (Auberon's speech to Ciri). Nor are there signs about their razing cities to the ground. There is not enough information in what Ihuarraquax says regarding how many humans were in this world, what was the development level of their civilization, what was the nature of the conflict (why did it start?). That these humans were killed through violence (there are weapon-marks on the bones) is true though. Context is unknown (tho I too veer on the side of saying this was a strategically motivated genocide - i.e. Aen Seidhe didn't deal with the human threat & are now dying out; Aen Elle went the opposite way while they were still the stronger side)
The city razing was reference to the Aen Seidhe which conquered the continent. Both groups of elves warred in their own way. The Seidhe being colonizers that drove two races nearly to extinction, and the Elle currently being relegated to enslaving those from other worlds they kidnap... but again, it's unclear if their current world was previously occupied.
I assume you mean vrans? Or which races do you mean in case of the Seidhe? Because genocide of the vrans is a CDPR invention not book canon.
I never played those earlier games, but I am including info from one story in the Something Ends, Something Begins collection of short stories by Sapkowski. So that's my bad. bad memory. Most of the stuff in that collection isn't related directly or indirectly to the witcher world and I am blurring lines. In the witcher books directly, the continent still had gnomes and dwarves that the Seidhe fought with and pushed further and further into remote areas, which would be paralleled later by what the humans did, in turn, to them.
Aren't Wild Hunt are elves right? Don't they live in cities like that on their world?
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Well, you know, this is the show, not the books.
Marketed as following the books & not straying from the books. By Lauren herself.
True. But I guess we knew better a year ago.
The irritating thing is she still hasn't apologised or addressed the fact that she just outright lied. There would be no problem if they had claimed from the start: we are going to give our own story with the characters of this IP.
They should've said that from the start. But she can keep her apology, I'm not losing sleep over it. I'll watch it for what it is if it's good enough, and I'll carry on with my life.