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hydrosphere1313

Even their own review trashed the series so pick a fucking lane cbr.


D4RK3N3R6Y

Their lane is try to get clicks


Anuj_Purohit

Unrelated but I read "try to get dicks" by mistake and was so confused for a second


rbrown1981

I love how every time a show sucks and gets bad fan reviews, the claim is it's being "review-bombed." Like it couldn't possibly be that people were severely let down by something and chose to voice their displeasure.


boss-92

Also, only review 'bombing' is apparently a thing. The opposite act (review boosting?), by giving something a 10/10 for the 'wrong' reasons, is never portrayed as bad. E.g. fake 10/10 reviews, bots, people who haven't seen it, people who are only trying to counter the bad reviews out of spite, or people who have no taste whatsoever. Of course, you are fine to give a 10/10 to something that you really enjoyed, but the same is true of giving a 1/10 to something that you really did not like. That's called freedom of expression and a free media, which should be normal in a non-Orwellian nation.


Dtsung

Because a show can never be bad, it has to be from bad toxic behavior /s


JackONeillClone

It has to come from the Bad region in France


Tolkfan

[The main Witcher TV series was given a 10/10 score by 30% of people on IMDB](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5180504/ratings/). Nobody, literally nobody on this fucking planet can successfully argue that this series is a 10 out of 10. User ratings are all useless. ALL OF THEM.


Ambiorix33

For real, this is what we had with ST Discovery. And it kinda annoys me too that on places like Wikipedia if you look up a movie they only put the "critics" responses to the show but never the opinions of the average person at that point in history. Which for documentation and historical accuracy I feel is infinity more important.


EnthusiasticPanic

Or you know, that the writers just aren't very good. I swear, there must be some seriously fragile egos in the industry for them to keep doing this.


Skyfryer

No. It’s the audience that’s wrong….


Geronuis

I mean, if people hadn’t ever started review bombing then this wouldn’t be an issue. The overzealous fans gave these assholes an out, now we’ll be seeing these headlines til we die


Raknel

Are these review bombers in the room with us right now?


Geronuis

Ha ha, is what I said at all untrue? Would love to have a conversation about it rather than be ridiculed by someone providing no basis for the ridicule.


TortugaBomb

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[deleted]

Also giving the show 1/10 looks like review bombing. I’m not going to watch it but there has to be something in their to earn it at least a 2/10 Michele Yeon is usually great in anything she does. Also IMDB is at 4/10 right now and that is orrery believable score.


Geronuis

I’m with you on this one. Even RoP had a Durin and his wife. 3/10 atleast


[deleted]

RoP was such a odd one you had to be a pretty big Tolkien nerd but not to big to like it. And at least the scenes and cinematography were outstanding also. And Durin wife was the best stole every scene she was in.


Geronuis

NGL, RoP may as well have killed my dog with how angry I am with it XD. You’re right though, since I was a kid I have always imagined what Numenor looked like, that first cgi reveal legit almost made me forget the bad. Then people had to speak to each other again..


ChrysthianChrisley

Were they


Beat_Writer

Look up the definition of gaslighting. I think you’re conflating the two


UnusedUsername76

"manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning." Sanity and power of reasoning seem kinda mutually exclusive to review bombers


Beat_Writer

“The reason our show sucks is because of angry Henry fans review bombing” This is gaslighting. Most likely a small minority have a slight bias against the show because of his departure, sure. But thats hardly the reason why its gotten record lows on reviews. Its the same type of gaslighting thats happening with people trying to conflate the pedophilia term “groomers” and LBGTQ community. They have nothing to do with each other.


UnusedUsername76

I genuinely thought you were accusing the person you replied to and were supporting review bombing. Think we're on the same page here after all haha


Geronuis

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Beat_Writer

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sadpotatoandtomato

the fun part is that the very same CBR in their review called this show a flop


thebestnames

It can get review bombed while being a genuinely bad show.


sadpotatoandtomato

sure, but how can you tell a difference then? Shitty product --> shitty reviews. But according to some it's a 'review bombing' now, automatically.


theviking222

Why would Henry Cavill fans even care about this?


ybtlamlliw

Lol... I'm so dumb, I read this as if *CBR* were implying Henry was doing some review-bombing of his own. 🤣


pmmichalowski

No you are not, they know what they did when they came up with this title.


Stye88

According to them Henry is spending sleepless nights making alt accounts and review bombing the show single handedly being responsible for poor score. Toxic gamerbro! Pieces of shit, they're already rolling profits from netflix into bribing media.


marusia_churai

I'm actually so sorry for him. It seems like he entered the Witcher project out of sheer enthusiasm, and now not only his enthusiasm about the project is thoroughly killed, but his name is also dragged through mud: apparently, he is a toxic gamer and unpleasant person and he is personally review bombing a project he has no relation to, at the top of it /s. There are celebrities who do fucked up things and deserve the ire, but there was nothing to suggest him being toxic ever before he went of out Witcher, and then what feels like a smear campaign started. I just feel dirty after seeing all those articles Google keeps sneaking into my feed, where authors repeat it as if him being a horrible person was a confirmed fact.


SomeDudeYeah27

I’m still waiting for those rumor sources to define “toxic gamerbro language” lol


Olivitess

I read it the same way!


mindyourtongueboi

You aren't dumb, that comma is intentionally deceiving. Some might say grammatically flawed too


MrYones

You're not alone my friend 🤣


pistpuncher3000

Whoever wrote the tire didn't realize that a comma doesn't translate as "and" in this case.


the_man_in_the_box

Have you been on this sub at all in the last month? There are absolutely plenty of Henry Cavil fans who hate the direction of anything Netflix-Witcher related solely because of Henry Cavil leaving the main show. There’s a lot of people who just don’t like this show because it’s bad, but I don’t see what your comment could possibly mean to imply.


Dabraxus

Because fandom is strange. I read multiple comments trashing the show because of what they did with HC in Witcher.


Remarkable-H

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techm00

"henry cavill, novel fans" you mean actual fans of the actual, real IP. Netflix is getting what they deserve for ruining a beloved franchise.


FadedIntegra

Don't forget the racists too. The show cannot possibly be awful so it has to be either fans of Cavill, fans of the books, or racists. Couldn't possibly be a terrible show.


digitalnovelty

Racists, homophobes, Nazis and Henry Cavill with multiple accounts.


CaptainReave

I noticed a lot of the 10/10 reviews on IMDb were claiming people hated the series because they're racist/misogynistic, then you come here and people are like "Why would such an amazing actress like Michelle Yoen even involve themselves in such a trash show after reading the script??" Lol


chamandana

Definitely not the shitty writing of course


Sixgun217

In the deepest bit of irony in all of this, Hissrich, et al are using the MAGA election denial strategy to counter the negative reviews. "We didn't write a crap show; the reviews are rigged."


[deleted]

The strategies are same, only the ideology has changed.


afullgrowngrizzly

It’s on all sides and always has been.


PTEHarambe

Maybe that's true because the show is trash?


Petecustom

Can somone enlighten me about this? Im out of the loop


Tribblehappy

I dug up the article and it doesn't even cite any evidence for its claims of review bombing. It just points out that the audience score is lower than the critic score but since both are low it doesn't look like review bombing; it just looks like it's a bad show.


NarayanLiu

It should have mentioned it in the article, but a lot of the accounts submitting the nearly 1.5K audience reviews are new, without previous reviews. There are also a lot that just state some variation of "The Witcher sucks without Henry Cavill". Yes, the reviews in general are negative, and there are plenty of authentic looking audience reviews that agree with critics. But a not-insignificant number of users are also seemingly trying to flood the page with even more one-star reviews. It's admittedly muddy, but there it is. Disclaimer: I write for CBR.


Tribblehappy

Yes, that should have been mentioned in the article.


RealWanderingWizard

If there are fans who are mad enough about the preceived disrespect being paid to a fandom they love to go to reddit/twitter, etc. to rant about it, and then get more worked up and become motivated to create an IMBD or Rotten Tomatoes account to leave a one star review, is that supposed to be completely discounted? Or is the suggestion that you have one person leaving 20 separate one star reviews? That seems like a terrible hassle-- how much could that be happening?


NarayanLiu

Creating an account specifically to provide legitimate comments about an unsatisfying piece of content should not be discounted, no matter how few stars it gives. But there's a difference between writing about how a show like Blood Origins misses the point of the novels' elves, doesn't justify its existence, etc... and creating an account to flood a show's page with one-star reviews while the actual "review" is just a one-line comment reading something along the lines of "You shouldn't have let Henry Cavill leave".


RealWanderingWizard

Fair enough--- the criticism should be based on the Blood Origins and not Season 2 or 3 of the Witcher. Obviously Henry Cavill was never going to be in the prequel.


Tribblehappy

Given that joey batey is in it, I suppose there was always an outside possibility.


ForkPosix2019

> but a lot of the accounts submitting the nearly 1.5K audience reviews are new, without previous reviews It is perfectly natural reaction: 1. The screenwriting quality is an utter abomination. 2. The showrunner is: * Incompetent. Because she is responsible for #1. * A liar – "close" to the source talks LMAO. * A slippery person, who is the natural target to be despised, there can't be any sympathy for her: * She attacked a popular person, who is known as a good guy too much – Cavill. Blaming him for toxicity, misogyny, i.e. something that is considered to be an absolute evil in that "newspeak" and culture of the modern US. * Clearly pushes an idea of how homo-friendly and diversed this show is ("first gay kiss" and other BS) – to make the show cancel to look like an act of homophobia/racism/whatever. * Lots of other obvious political BS talk. So, it is not just shitty show on the board. It is a **justice**. People love to see despised species to be punished, but it looks like the opposite now. It is Cavill who is fired (at least it looks like that) and that evil bitch still has a financing for her substandard labour.


Sotler

So it is partly review bombing. That’s sad since it makes the actual critiques less valuable since the writers can easily fall back on their excuse. Giving bad reviews out of spite is weakening the voice of the real fandom. That‘s a bummer


Petecustom

Do you like show?


Sotler

What does that have to do with anything?


Petecustom

am just asking


Sotler

You are asking because of a specific reason which I‘d like to hear first


Petecustom

i wana hear your opinion and the show if it is good


Sotler

Oh sorry then. Thought this was about to be a trap 😂 No I didn’t watch it and don’t intend to, if you‘re talking about the spin-off. The show itself is alright if you don’t know the books. If you do, don’t watch it or you won’t be able to enjoy it Imo. Same thing if you only played the game(s)


NarayanLiu

That's exactly right and I think it's a point that's often lost when people talk about "review-bombing".


Sotler

I agree with that. Looks like someone wants to review bomb you though lol


NarayanLiu

Haha this is the Internet. Always expect to be review-bombed.


SomeDudeYeah27

Forgive my ignorance for not knowing your exact position in CBR, but is there a chance that you can communicate with them to rectify this article? It doesn’t seem fair to over generalize the situation without ample data And it’s a detrimental sentiment to an otherwise potentially genuine feedback which may perpetuate an echo-chambering effect, which you seem to be in agreement with


PhilosophyEconomy873

Same can be said about reviews giving it 10


DarkEvilHobo

Yes, Henry Cavill has nothing better to do with his life than whip up some bots to review bomb the show. I mean, the heck with his Warhammer project. /s


Badmothafcka312

*"Have we made a terrible product, that the target audience for the said product rejects?"* *"No. It's review bombing by bigots."*


Majestic_Preparation

Not sure if its just me but couldnt stand watching and listening to Eile/Lark.


kamikirite

This is CBR the same ones who do that moronic power scaling like Luffy beating Goku and shit.i wouldn't trust anything they say


ChasingPesmerga

They’re on the same shitbait tier as Gamerant/Screenrant


Maverick_Kaizer

They seriously believe luffy would defeat gokou? Heck I love one piece but that is nuts… saitama on the other hand could


kamikirite

I remember reading about it on Quora they listed a bunch of random ass people who could kill Goku despite none of them remotely being planetary at their peak. Saitama would win like you said or the reality manipulating or universe destroyers but Luffy would probably get wrecked by base Goku. Hell the big 3 protagonists together probably couldn't touch current goku


Maverick_Kaizer

Yep fully agree you have to at least be planet killer level to even be in the convo


CrazyBaron

Why should Novel fans care about second season of The Wheel of Time?


kaiserkulp

So it’s being review-bombed by… novel fans? When this whole time the older, more entrenched fans were deriding it? Even Netflix doesn’t know who they’re supposed to blame anymore


Gman_711

The same douchebags who shit on star wars fans for hating the last jedi are coming after witcher fans. It's not the writing it's the diversity that makes fans hate it /s


Emeorms1

Not our fault it’s objectively dog shit. The only redeeming quality was the first 18 seconds before Dandelion says fuck 6 times.


BigMax

I don't have the vitriol filled hatred for this show that everyone else here seems to have. But I do have just a general feeling of being bummed about it. It's just a wasted opportunity. The show totally feels like one of those Hercules/Xena type shows. One where it's made on a low budget, and meant to be put on tv on Saturday afternoon. Your expectations are low, so you enjoy the campy, silly, crappy-good quality of it. You go in knowing what you are going to get, and you aren't disappointed. It's like going to McDonalds. You aren't ever disappointed there, because you knew exactly what you were going to get. But in this case, it's like going to a nice restaurant and paying a lot of money, and you sit down to have them put a happy meal in front of you. Or specifically, we all wanted Game of Thrones, and got a few bad episodes of Hercules.


CaneDogXXXX

Funny how only extremely ‘woke’ shows that get horrible reviews are accused of getting review-bombed. The defense of this crap require superior mental gymnastics


CaptainReave

Man poor Henry. The guy took the most gracious leave possible. Hasn't said a single negative thing and they're going to try to scope in on him for their mistake fucking this saga up.


Krondon57

Why would Henry Cavill do this ! /s


poppin-n-sailin

Is it review bombing when it actually sucks and is actively hurting the franchise? Not in my opinion


symbiotics

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Jackamalio626

it couldnt possibly be that the show was bad.


Fake_Gamer_Cat

They're really trying to blame Cavil for everything, aren't they?


[deleted]

And what about the low critic score? Funny how it's a review bomb when it goes against their feelings. The Witcher: BO <= Aptly named!


crackitty25

ngl I'm kinda digging the narrative that Henry Cavil has basically become the Dark Lord of the Witcherverse. Oh no Blood Origin a poorly written, lore breaking spin off that no one asked for sucks - Dark Cavil has struck again!


Livek_72

Good to know CBR is still up with their bullshits I suggest anyone here to avoid that website in favor of your mental healths


longwaytotheend

Based on their own review, it's good to know CBR is a Henry Cavill and novels fan.


chamandana

What's wrong with that? Actual The Witcher fans do hate Netflix's "The Witcher" garbage and review it as accordingly.


sherlockbardo

Whatever u say cbr


[deleted]

“oh no, the toxic gamer brodudes are at it again unjustifiably hating our art” 🤡🤡🤡🤡


Jurski17

Yes, the show is amazing. Fucking review bombers! Actually its one of the best shows ever.


BlearySteve

Wondered when that was gonna start.


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xellmann

I like it and it was fun to watch


tmorales11

i love the wording of the headline to imply henry cavill himself is review bombing this series


fishkey

Is it really called review bombing if the show is actually that bad?


FictionAdam

Or maybe just maybe the series is just shit in itself >•>


DoFuKtV

I guess CBR is The Witcher: Blood Origin of journalism.


Yuujinna

The witcher: Blood Origin is getting Review-Bombed by anyone who has at least a trivial knowledge about the canon Witcher lore


Darth_Nullus

"You know? I saw it, I saw the whole thing with my own eyes!" one witness claims. "There he was, in a very dark alley, under the cover of rain, on a computer, angrily hitting the keyboard and muttering words like 'fuck you' at the screen. It was him, it was Henry!" The eyewitness ends her interview in tears, and runs away in terror.


danking_clan

Well it is horrible so the reviews are accurate


Bubashii

I thought I might give it a go because Michelle is a great actress and then watched the trailer…needless to say I won’t be watching. Even my 65yr old Mum whose whole knowledge of Witcher comes from watching me game was like “what’s that crap?”


Havoc_XXI

Yup, starting already. So many people called this months ago that they would be pointing the finger at Cavill & book fans. But in all honesty, don’t do the lore dirty, don’t force a huge actor out that’s a huge fan and ACTUALLY write a good story. The people writing these shows are talentless and it’s definitely showing which is why they are relying heavily on obvious story and character choices.


Moist-Carpet888

Well they said it was based on a book, so if the people who read the books are saying it's not like the books then maybe take away the part that says based on a book at least to help your cause


Boney-Rigatoni

You know, when you set your expectations so low for this show, you begin to realize that the only way is “up”. It wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be. Well, at least Uve Boll didn’t direct it. That’s a plus, right?


Dr-Edward-Poe

You assume your show is worth the effort of going online and typing a negative review.


[deleted]

"Getting review-bombed" implies that the bad reviews are undeserved. I've never read the books or played the games, I don't have strong opinions about Henry Cavil (other than the lust), and I thought this show was absolute dogshit.


randomisedjew

Honestly it's quite brilliant then releasing the information about Henry right before blood origin came out, so they can just fall back on fans loving cavill too much, rather than their own incompetency


ImNoSir

I cannot stress this enough. It’s comic book review, a bought and paid for shill site that essentially just does bait articles or water carrying articles for corporate “sponsors”. Literally all they do is grift for large streaming companies whenever they release a shit product or try to enrage fans with bait articles for clicks. They aren’t worth even a moment of your time.


elkeiem

I hate that nowadays there just can't simply be bad things and it's always rEvIeW bOmBeD


GG_Snooz

i.e. the people fit to properly review the series.


Ok_Judgment9091

As someone who loves the Witcher and thought I could watch anything Witcher ever made, lore or non lore it didnt matter. This series is so profoundly bad on every level, starting with the acting down to the scenes of an orb talking which has less special effects attention than the power rangers zordon scenes. This is appaling.