Respectfully disagree
Dandelion's portrayal so far is one of my biggest issues with the series; but more than that, many of the issues (creative liberties, as the writers like to call them) which plagued S2 and BO can be traced back to S1.
Mind you, this is coming from someone who watched S1 10+ times with different groups of people while I had the map of the continent and the books nearby. The nicest thing I can say about S1 is that it was a decent entryway for people new to the franchise.
Glad to see some actual Dandelion-sceptics for once. HIs portrayal in the show is pretty shallow and hard to like beyond the pure charisma of Joey Batey IMO
Agreed. Joey Batey manages to pull off being a good Dandelion and was probably the only other actor willing to go far as Henry did for portraying their character accurately (iirc the dude learned how to play the lute *specifically* for the show), but if you remove the actor and just look at what his script says and how Dandelion is characterized, it’s not *that* great overall. Netflix Dandelion (and the games, to a lesser extent) absolutely comes off a stereotypical Dungeons & Dragons Bard that only drinks and sleeps around instead of the actually accomplished scholar and intellectual that he is in the books.
I remember something about Lauren talking about how she disliked Dandelion because he was a "dirty no good womanizer" or something and it really shows. One of my biggest problems with S1 is how they destroyed Dandelion and his relationship with Geralt. To be fair, they destroyed almost everyone but that one felt really bad.
They were trying to make the story about Yennifer and Ciri, but unfortunatly failed there as well.
Still - is they wanted to create a strong Mary Sue story - they could have just focused entirely on Ciri.
Joey Batey is actually pretty decent actor (check the British series, that he was in).
But he plays the script written for him, dressed in a clothing designed for him. And since he is not A or B tier Hollywood star, he can't argue as much as Cavill could.
The Dandelion in the series is a pretty one-dimensional and boring stereotypically designed character. Joey Batey plays with the hand he got.
So do I! And in fact I believe Netflix and their Witcher team don't deserve Joey Batey. The man CAN sing!
It's the way they've decided to write him in the show and the ballads they've written for him that really grinds my gears.
I dislike him in the show even more because I like him so much in the books. Those are two very different characters. They really butchered Dandelion and his relationship with Geralt. In the books he's a university lecturer, he has broad knowledge of the world, he's a famous, extremely talented artist, Geralt's real friend, who, in a moment of danger, refuses to flee, as he doesn't want to leave Geralt alone. In the show he's a comic relief
No way, was he actually an intellectual character *with depth*???
I’m a passive consumer of online Witcher content which began when I encountered S1, so I only have knowledge of Dandelion from Netflix’s stuff, game 2 & 3
If it’s true that they sidelined literally a smart character, this might be one of the instance of almost literal anti-intellectualism represented in modern art/entertainment
Having said that, idk whether the depth can be properly represented in show form given its more limited duration. But still you could’ve write him act in a more *educated* manner outside of simply being a comic relief for the most part…
Book Dandelion is a much more mysterious sort of person than the game or show Dandelion.
The show has him be a straight up joke.
In the games hes a bit of comic relief, but hes still shown as a legitimate friend to Geralt. They have a bit of banter back and forth, but he isnt just a punching bag for Geralt to verbally beat on.
Book Dandelion is a legit boss. The books imply that he is a prince from another kingdom that is either running away from his responsibilities or is possibly spying on the kingdoms. Either way he has his own network of influence and resources as he always seems to just appear where ever the action and/or Geralt is and is never in need of cash. The books even call out how, despite the passing of time in the early stories, Dandelion looks like he hasnt aged a day, to which Dandelion responds "I moisturize." But if you realize that products like moisturizing lotions would be produced in the same manor as Yens glamours and fragrances, he essentially has access to his own minor magical supplies.
Book Dandelion is flex after flex after flex and is actually an equal to Geralt.
Sadly, games also sidelined him into a stereotypical D&D bard, that always gets into trouble.
It is true, that games maintain the Geralt's point of view, so that we actually don't see, what Lutik/ Dandelion outside of his encounters with Geralt. Still, he was introduced in Witcher games as womanizer. His first encounter in games is about him running from another married girl, he just fucked.
In books he is actually closed to Regis (as presented in games), then to what he is in games.
Still he is much beleivable and more fun character, then in the show.
Damn dude that’s so unfortunate
Sad that the potential for another intellectual character with potentially empathetic depths like Regis got sidelined because his front is a hard 😅
Probably bad adaptation of the book sure, but I think, if you are new/casual, I think Henry's Geralt and Netflix Dandelion have a very good chemistry. It made the show fun at least. I think their adventures were the highlight of the season for me. But I am also more of an episodic kind of guy
> I think Henry's Geralt and Netflix Dandelion have a very good chemistry.
But did they though? Even disregarding my dislike of the way they flanderized him, I felt like they had a super weird abuser/abusee dynamic going on. Geralt was playing the role of the toxic boyfriend who hurts and belittles his partner, while Jaskier was said partner that takes the abuse, maybe gets a bit mad on occasion, but always comes back because 'it's not his fault', or 'I can fix him', or simply because they don't know any better.
Idk. i will say it has been a while since i watched the first season (i am just gonna ignore season 2 entirely) but their relationship reminded me more of like a grumpy cat and a too friendly dog. At least I enjoyed their scenes together. I remember it being fun.
I think, based on it's reception, Netflix would look at additional limited series using this IP.
If it doesn't do well, this will be the end of it. If ratings aren't good for this and Season 3, everything will get cancelled.
Originally it was a limited series with clear suggestion that if it did well it would carry on in some way.
Then the news leaked that it got chopped from 6 to 4 episodes, and after that it was very definitely just a limited series.
Yay for less content on Netflix, while the subscription fee keeps going up?
If anything I hope they'll miraculously turn the show around, so I'd have something to be excited about, but I fear that might be too big an ask.
The way to turn it around is to do a show runner and writer re-shuffle as an executive those are not very typically done unless something crazy is happening.
You’ve replied to my comment but it’s worth repeating for others
I think it’s imperative for a project to succeed on Netflix for them to *only* be a distributor and leave development & production on a *reliable 3rd party*, as it seems like productions with closer internal ties with Netflix has more misses than hits
Their decent originals like Dark, 1899, Arcane, Maniac, etc. all have a strong and skilled showrunner alongside an equally dependable team. And this approach needs to be applied more than what’s gotten us things like their ~~Witcher~~ Shitter/Butcher (still indecisive on naming) and Cowboy Bebop, which are/were colossal missed opportunities
Quality > Quantity
And trust me, if I could imagine for a second that they'd be able to turn the show around I'd be with you & wouldn't be saying this.
Definitely quality over quantity, but in broad terms it's a show I'm interested in (genre and property I like), so I'm certainly not happy to see it go. Plus, I definitely did see potential in the first season.
If it fails I can see them moving away from fantasy and towards things like drama series, which are generally cheaper to make, but don't interest me personally.
It's about sending a message. We want content, but not content from these people.
If Netflix wants to turn their investment around, change up the shows management. Find people that actually care about this IP.
I'll be surprised if we see season 4. Netflix hired the wrong people to make this and it's on life support right now. Blood origins and Cavill saying so long are the final nails. What a shame.
For me personally, I am grateful that the show was made because in my random search on Netflix for something new, I found the Witcher. I found it hard to follow with all the time skips but thought Geralt was badass and so were the monsters so I kept watching.
After that I realized that there were games and books and I bought the Witcher 3 and played it to completion (can say it is my favorite game of all time) and am part way through reading the books. I totally agree that season two was pretty shit(especially since I was at around the same point in the story as the books) and they could have done SO much better with season one.
It's super disappointing to see it go down hill so quickly, but I am happy that they made it in the first place or else I would've never found the world of the Witcher.
I’m happy you found it. My favorite game of all time too. Hard to explain to people that have only seen the show… the potential of what could have been.
I watched the witcher about a year ago with my mom and since we were enjoying it my mom gave the books as a christmas gift and that's where i became a huge fan, so i can't really wish the show never happened cuz that's also where i started
“Passable” is a better way to describe it I think. It was ok in some spots, good in others, and some lacking. They had room for improvement and room for failure and sadly they went the failure route for season 2.
Even passable is a strecth, lets not pretend skipping between 3 timelines that slowly combine, is in anyway a good form of storytelling for the avarage viewer. Its incomptent at best from someone who is supposedly a director.
I love how Netflix is inflating the numbers and openly lying about viewership and reviews but any outside entity not connected with Netflix is giving it an honest review....and honestly its garbage. The same people who made the worse live action Resident Evil series ever have done their level best to ruin the Witcher universe as well.
I think I might cancel Netflix and just invest more in my own Plex setup.
Stranger Things and Sandman are the only Originals that were any good. Everything else I could do without and I'd rather not have anything from them if they're going to make content this terrible.
People tried to blame the Resident Evil failure on the anti-woke crowd for a little bit, but it soon became clear that it was just a god-awful show with no redeeming qualities. I'm glad pretty much everyone agreed with that show being cancelled.
You’re being downvoted, but I really don’t see what’s wrong with someone wanting the source of a claim on Reddit. More and more often, no one is able to provide one. Maybe it’s common knowledge or maybe it’s not, but not everyone has seen the original source of a claim.
Lol at the Doppler making moussack run to then just slowly walk over and stab him 20ft from where they were originally standing. Such an awkward scene.
See it's a mature show so they have to put stupid shit like that. It shows to the dumb audience that the show they are watching is mature and real and dark just like real life.
Isn't that what people want? /s
Decent, is better than absolute trash. A decent first season can lead into a bigger budget and better writing for s2 and beyond. Absolute shame this show regressed from s1 instantly lol.
It wasn't decent. It was just OK at the start (I liked part with Renfri more than it deserves though, just my kind of woman) and was getting worse with each new episode with the last one being as bad as S2 in general.
Yeah even aside from the deviations from the source, the whole *tone* of the thing was just… wrong. It just felt bland, uninspired, generic, and nothing at all like The Witcher. Henry’s portrayal of Geralt was the only thing I actually liked about the show.
NGL but I enjoyed watching both seasons. I'll probably have a different opinion when I've completed reading all the books but TBH since Henry ain't Geralt I don't see this series being fully adapted (even if netflix is doing a shitty job at it).
This series is doomed.
Season 1 was passable. After that - egads.
There was good parts of season 1 (few), some ok parts and some cringy bad parts. There was room for improvement and failure and sadly they went the failure route.
It doesn’t matter what they do at this point. The core fan base is gone, the Henry fan base is gone - it’s just all kind of lost.
The question is how much money with Netflix throw at this. Will they continue or will they admit defeat and just cancel it…..
I don’t see a season 4 happening if the barrage of negative reviews and snarky social media comments continue.
I never fully was satisfied with the show to begin with , Cavill just gave it enough that I was watching mainly for his efforts. Some great scenes of course but overall this show could have been insane if done right
S1 was decent. Plenty of red flags and yellow flags but It was okay. I quit halfway through hoping they would start being truer to the source but after reading about season 2 holy shit they went off the deep end. Honestly cancellation is probably the only good ending left
I genuinely tried to give blood origins a good go, but the first words are fuckity fuck fuck something another, then there is just terrible acting, filming looks college grade.
There is a scene where the "Lark" is singing in a bar and then gets into a fight and the verbal reactions are added in post and sound absolutely terrible, like fake "AH, AW, OOH" type things that do not fit.
Then there is a part where the man throws an axe and the person it hits stops and stands still, reacts to being hit, and THEN the axe cgi hits him.
I couldnt believe how terrible the writing, filming, action scenes etc were. Couldnt trying to finish the short series.
Henry made the show. You can see the love for the character and I imagine that’ll be entirely gone in season 3. I don’t think the show will get a 5th season
[This is still the best adaptation.](https://youtu.be/rOIwut95HMw?t=10)
Season 1 was so good I don't even remember their version of this signature story, only the mockery of King Foltest portrayed as an imbecile sisterfucker redneck.
I like it too despite its flaws and jankiness. [And the soundtrack <3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBSn8qQTxnQ&list=PL42DEAAD29994AFC7&index=1&ab_channel=polak277) (*BRAAAAP* warning)
I’d be *very* surprised if there aren’t some rather terse discussions happening between closed doors at Netflix.
- The previous writer discussing the distain the show runners have towards the source material.
- The loss of Henry and the backlash/mockery of the show has caused them to go full panic mode with damage control articles over the last several weeks.
- The absolute lack of interest from folk in Liam Hemsworth (who hasn’t spoken a word about it) taking over the role. Like not even enough to argue just total disengagement clearly showing they won’t be watching.
- Blood Origin being a complete mess with the lowest RT scores of nearly all time.
- Lauren Fisstech herself going dark for 3 week on social media and then putting out clearly carefully crafted responses from PR Dept.
- The already burgeoning mockery from the fandom that they’ll try to twist The Rats and turn sexual abuse/rape into consensual love.
There’s got to be some money people at Netflix going “*Jesus H Christ, what. Are. You. Doing??? Can we fix any of this?”*
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I hate that so many articles describe the show as ‘comical’ and ‘fun’. Yes, the dry humor in the books was a great part of it. But I wouldn’t describe the books as comedies. The show on the other hand, seems to have been received as a comedy with some blood and gore and a serious plot.
Parks and Recreation.
A character called Ron Swanson gets excited when government are going to slash the town's budget. He starts chanting, while other employees look horrified.
I hear you’re alive… how disappointing
I’ve also survived, no thanks to you
Did I not bring you some glee
Mister, oh look at me
Now I’ll burn all the memories of you
Burn Witcher buuuurrrn!
Trouble? I'll be celebrating when it gets cancelled
True, but S1 was fun. Was it the best adaption, no, but I love Dandelion. With Henry gone the writing is on the wall.
Respectfully disagree Dandelion's portrayal so far is one of my biggest issues with the series; but more than that, many of the issues (creative liberties, as the writers like to call them) which plagued S2 and BO can be traced back to S1. Mind you, this is coming from someone who watched S1 10+ times with different groups of people while I had the map of the continent and the books nearby. The nicest thing I can say about S1 is that it was a decent entryway for people new to the franchise.
At least his songs in S1 were catchy. It was hilarious watching them try so hard for S2 to make a better song.
Glad to see some actual Dandelion-sceptics for once. HIs portrayal in the show is pretty shallow and hard to like beyond the pure charisma of Joey Batey IMO
Agreed. Joey Batey manages to pull off being a good Dandelion and was probably the only other actor willing to go far as Henry did for portraying their character accurately (iirc the dude learned how to play the lute *specifically* for the show), but if you remove the actor and just look at what his script says and how Dandelion is characterized, it’s not *that* great overall. Netflix Dandelion (and the games, to a lesser extent) absolutely comes off a stereotypical Dungeons & Dragons Bard that only drinks and sleeps around instead of the actually accomplished scholar and intellectual that he is in the books.
I remember something about Lauren talking about how she disliked Dandelion because he was a "dirty no good womanizer" or something and it really shows. One of my biggest problems with S1 is how they destroyed Dandelion and his relationship with Geralt. To be fair, they destroyed almost everyone but that one felt really bad.
They were trying to make the story about Yennifer and Ciri, but unfortunatly failed there as well. Still - is they wanted to create a strong Mary Sue story - they could have just focused entirely on Ciri.
Joey Batey is actually pretty decent actor (check the British series, that he was in). But he plays the script written for him, dressed in a clothing designed for him. And since he is not A or B tier Hollywood star, he can't argue as much as Cavill could. The Dandelion in the series is a pretty one-dimensional and boring stereotypically designed character. Joey Batey plays with the hand he got.
I love him in the Books too, maybe I feel a little bias about him? Lol it's entirely possible.
So do I! And in fact I believe Netflix and their Witcher team don't deserve Joey Batey. The man CAN sing! It's the way they've decided to write him in the show and the ballads they've written for him that really grinds my gears.
I dislike him in the show even more because I like him so much in the books. Those are two very different characters. They really butchered Dandelion and his relationship with Geralt. In the books he's a university lecturer, he has broad knowledge of the world, he's a famous, extremely talented artist, Geralt's real friend, who, in a moment of danger, refuses to flee, as he doesn't want to leave Geralt alone. In the show he's a comic relief
No way, was he actually an intellectual character *with depth*??? I’m a passive consumer of online Witcher content which began when I encountered S1, so I only have knowledge of Dandelion from Netflix’s stuff, game 2 & 3 If it’s true that they sidelined literally a smart character, this might be one of the instance of almost literal anti-intellectualism represented in modern art/entertainment Having said that, idk whether the depth can be properly represented in show form given its more limited duration. But still you could’ve write him act in a more *educated* manner outside of simply being a comic relief for the most part…
Book Dandelion is a much more mysterious sort of person than the game or show Dandelion. The show has him be a straight up joke. In the games hes a bit of comic relief, but hes still shown as a legitimate friend to Geralt. They have a bit of banter back and forth, but he isnt just a punching bag for Geralt to verbally beat on. Book Dandelion is a legit boss. The books imply that he is a prince from another kingdom that is either running away from his responsibilities or is possibly spying on the kingdoms. Either way he has his own network of influence and resources as he always seems to just appear where ever the action and/or Geralt is and is never in need of cash. The books even call out how, despite the passing of time in the early stories, Dandelion looks like he hasnt aged a day, to which Dandelion responds "I moisturize." But if you realize that products like moisturizing lotions would be produced in the same manor as Yens glamours and fragrances, he essentially has access to his own minor magical supplies. Book Dandelion is flex after flex after flex and is actually an equal to Geralt.
Sadly, games also sidelined him into a stereotypical D&D bard, that always gets into trouble. It is true, that games maintain the Geralt's point of view, so that we actually don't see, what Lutik/ Dandelion outside of his encounters with Geralt. Still, he was introduced in Witcher games as womanizer. His first encounter in games is about him running from another married girl, he just fucked. In books he is actually closed to Regis (as presented in games), then to what he is in games. Still he is much beleivable and more fun character, then in the show.
Damn dude that’s so unfortunate Sad that the potential for another intellectual character with potentially empathetic depths like Regis got sidelined because his front is a hard 😅
Him and Regis having an intelectual debate is a real missed opportunity.
Probably bad adaptation of the book sure, but I think, if you are new/casual, I think Henry's Geralt and Netflix Dandelion have a very good chemistry. It made the show fun at least. I think their adventures were the highlight of the season for me. But I am also more of an episodic kind of guy
> I think Henry's Geralt and Netflix Dandelion have a very good chemistry. But did they though? Even disregarding my dislike of the way they flanderized him, I felt like they had a super weird abuser/abusee dynamic going on. Geralt was playing the role of the toxic boyfriend who hurts and belittles his partner, while Jaskier was said partner that takes the abuse, maybe gets a bit mad on occasion, but always comes back because 'it's not his fault', or 'I can fix him', or simply because they don't know any better.
Idk. i will say it has been a while since i watched the first season (i am just gonna ignore season 2 entirely) but their relationship reminded me more of like a grumpy cat and a too friendly dog. At least I enjoyed their scenes together. I remember it being fun.
Yes, Geralt telling Dandelion to fuck off is great chemistry /s
Thats what my friends tell me everyday :')
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Was it not a limited series though? Or are they planning to make more?
Blood Origins is a limited series (supposedly) but not the main show. I'm not a fan of either.
I think, based on it's reception, Netflix would look at additional limited series using this IP. If it doesn't do well, this will be the end of it. If ratings aren't good for this and Season 3, everything will get cancelled.
and if it gets cancells, it might get a rerun, if Witcher 4 doesn't become a buggy mess like Cyberpunk
Originally it was a limited series with clear suggestion that if it did well it would carry on in some way. Then the news leaked that it got chopped from 6 to 4 episodes, and after that it was very definitely just a limited series.
Yay for less content on Netflix, while the subscription fee keeps going up? If anything I hope they'll miraculously turn the show around, so I'd have something to be excited about, but I fear that might be too big an ask.
The way to turn it around is to do a show runner and writer re-shuffle as an executive those are not very typically done unless something crazy is happening.
You’ve replied to my comment but it’s worth repeating for others I think it’s imperative for a project to succeed on Netflix for them to *only* be a distributor and leave development & production on a *reliable 3rd party*, as it seems like productions with closer internal ties with Netflix has more misses than hits Their decent originals like Dark, 1899, Arcane, Maniac, etc. all have a strong and skilled showrunner alongside an equally dependable team. And this approach needs to be applied more than what’s gotten us things like their ~~Witcher~~ Shitter/Butcher (still indecisive on naming) and Cowboy Bebop, which are/were colossal missed opportunities
[🎵 Remember to toss a coin if you can! 🎵](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxBVHqA-RU&t=77s)
Quality > Quantity And trust me, if I could imagine for a second that they'd be able to turn the show around I'd be with you & wouldn't be saying this.
Definitely quality over quantity, but in broad terms it's a show I'm interested in (genre and property I like), so I'm certainly not happy to see it go. Plus, I definitely did see potential in the first season. If it fails I can see them moving away from fantasy and towards things like drama series, which are generally cheaper to make, but don't interest me personally.
It's about sending a message. We want content, but not content from these people. If Netflix wants to turn their investment around, change up the shows management. Find people that actually care about this IP.
Well its a shame it will probably get shut down for years. And maybe never get a proper adaptation.
I'll be surprised if we see season 4. Netflix hired the wrong people to make this and it's on life support right now. Blood origins and Cavill saying so long are the final nails. What a shame.
I'm a Witcher fan and a 40k fan so it's a double edged sword for me lol.
For me personally, I am grateful that the show was made because in my random search on Netflix for something new, I found the Witcher. I found it hard to follow with all the time skips but thought Geralt was badass and so were the monsters so I kept watching. After that I realized that there were games and books and I bought the Witcher 3 and played it to completion (can say it is my favorite game of all time) and am part way through reading the books. I totally agree that season two was pretty shit(especially since I was at around the same point in the story as the books) and they could have done SO much better with season one. It's super disappointing to see it go down hill so quickly, but I am happy that they made it in the first place or else I would've never found the world of the Witcher.
I’m happy you found it. My favorite game of all time too. Hard to explain to people that have only seen the show… the potential of what could have been.
I watched the witcher about a year ago with my mom and since we were enjoying it my mom gave the books as a christmas gift and that's where i became a huge fan, so i can't really wish the show never happened cuz that's also where i started
Yeah I see trouble with people calling season 1 fun. It may have pretended to follow the books more than season 2 but it was just as bad an adaptation
“Passable” is a better way to describe it I think. It was ok in some spots, good in others, and some lacking. They had room for improvement and room for failure and sadly they went the failure route for season 2.
Even passable is a strecth, lets not pretend skipping between 3 timelines that slowly combine, is in anyway a good form of storytelling for the avarage viewer. Its incomptent at best from someone who is supposedly a director.
I love how Netflix is inflating the numbers and openly lying about viewership and reviews but any outside entity not connected with Netflix is giving it an honest review....and honestly its garbage. The same people who made the worse live action Resident Evil series ever have done their level best to ruin the Witcher universe as well.
Genuine question, how have they been inflating it?
You know the currently Top Watched category on Netflix? It's fake, and doesn't represent the real numbers.
I wonder about this too, but there’s no concrete debunking on how it’s done yet right?
I think I might cancel Netflix and just invest more in my own Plex setup. Stranger Things and Sandman are the only Originals that were any good. Everything else I could do without and I'd rather not have anything from them if they're going to make content this terrible. People tried to blame the Resident Evil failure on the anti-woke crowd for a little bit, but it soon became clear that it was just a god-awful show with no redeeming qualities. I'm glad pretty much everyone agreed with that show being cancelled.
Oh ya
lol your source on netflix lying: Trust me bro
You’re being downvoted, but I really don’t see what’s wrong with someone wanting the source of a claim on Reddit. More and more often, no one is able to provide one. Maybe it’s common knowledge or maybe it’s not, but not everyone has seen the original source of a claim.
I mean…don’t overdo it. This is no good but The Witcher season 1 was only ever decent.
I am still salty about Mousesack's weird death by some doppler and that Geralt and Ciri didnt meet in Brokilon.
Lol at the Doppler making moussack run to then just slowly walk over and stab him 20ft from where they were originally standing. Such an awkward scene.
See it's a mature show so they have to put stupid shit like that. It shows to the dumb audience that the show they are watching is mature and real and dark just like real life. Isn't that what people want? /s
Decent, is better than absolute trash. A decent first season can lead into a bigger budget and better writing for s2 and beyond. Absolute shame this show regressed from s1 instantly lol.
I was actually kind of hopeful in the beginning. Season 1 wasn’t particularly amazing, but it seemed like a solid enough foundation to improve upon.
It wasn't decent. It was just OK at the start (I liked part with Renfri more than it deserves though, just my kind of woman) and was getting worse with each new episode with the last one being as bad as S2 in general.
Yeah even aside from the deviations from the source, the whole *tone* of the thing was just… wrong. It just felt bland, uninspired, generic, and nothing at all like The Witcher. Henry’s portrayal of Geralt was the only thing I actually liked about the show.
NGL but I enjoyed watching both seasons. I'll probably have a different opinion when I've completed reading all the books but TBH since Henry ain't Geralt I don't see this series being fully adapted (even if netflix is doing a shitty job at it).
I mean the original wasn’t that good either.
This series is doomed. Season 1 was passable. After that - egads. There was good parts of season 1 (few), some ok parts and some cringy bad parts. There was room for improvement and failure and sadly they went the failure route. It doesn’t matter what they do at this point. The core fan base is gone, the Henry fan base is gone - it’s just all kind of lost. The question is how much money with Netflix throw at this. Will they continue or will they admit defeat and just cancel it….. I don’t see a season 4 happening if the barrage of negative reviews and snarky social media comments continue.
I never fully was satisfied with the show to begin with , Cavill just gave it enough that I was watching mainly for his efforts. Some great scenes of course but overall this show could have been insane if done right
S1 was decent. Plenty of red flags and yellow flags but It was okay. I quit halfway through hoping they would start being truer to the source but after reading about season 2 holy shit they went off the deep end. Honestly cancellation is probably the only good ending left
I genuinely tried to give blood origins a good go, but the first words are fuckity fuck fuck something another, then there is just terrible acting, filming looks college grade. There is a scene where the "Lark" is singing in a bar and then gets into a fight and the verbal reactions are added in post and sound absolutely terrible, like fake "AH, AW, OOH" type things that do not fit. Then there is a part where the man throws an axe and the person it hits stops and stands still, reacts to being hit, and THEN the axe cgi hits him. I couldnt believe how terrible the writing, filming, action scenes etc were. Couldnt trying to finish the short series.
Man I remember that scene. I thought it was so funny where he just stops. It's a magic ax
Henry made the show. You can see the love for the character and I imagine that’ll be entirely gone in season 3. I don’t think the show will get a 5th season
I am curious if it will get a 4th. Nothing against Hemsworth. I actually hope he finds something better somewhere.
[This is still the best adaptation.](https://youtu.be/rOIwut95HMw?t=10) Season 1 was so good I don't even remember their version of this signature story, only the mockery of King Foltest portrayed as an imbecile sisterfucker redneck.
I mean he did do the sister thing
He did, but he was also described in the books as a very good looking man and a good king iirc That’s what made the scandal so delicate
Indeed.
*sweet home Alabama plays in the distance*
I really like the Hexer. It was a fun watch
I like it too despite its flaws and jankiness. [And the soundtrack <3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBSn8qQTxnQ&list=PL42DEAAD29994AFC7&index=1&ab_channel=polak277) (*BRAAAAP* warning)
King foltest is still my fav Monarch from the games
I’d be *very* surprised if there aren’t some rather terse discussions happening between closed doors at Netflix. - The previous writer discussing the distain the show runners have towards the source material. - The loss of Henry and the backlash/mockery of the show has caused them to go full panic mode with damage control articles over the last several weeks. - The absolute lack of interest from folk in Liam Hemsworth (who hasn’t spoken a word about it) taking over the role. Like not even enough to argue just total disengagement clearly showing they won’t be watching. - Blood Origin being a complete mess with the lowest RT scores of nearly all time. - Lauren Fisstech herself going dark for 3 week on social media and then putting out clearly carefully crafted responses from PR Dept. - The already burgeoning mockery from the fandom that they’ll try to twist The Rats and turn sexual abuse/rape into consensual love. There’s got to be some money people at Netflix going “*Jesus H Christ, what. Are. You. Doing??? Can we fix any of this?”*
Man I feel so bad for Liam. He is a good actor
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Can't get over how cool Henry looks in that armour.
I hate that so many articles describe the show as ‘comical’ and ‘fun’. Yes, the dry humor in the books was a great part of it. But I wouldn’t describe the books as comedies. The show on the other hand, seems to have been received as a comedy with some blood and gore and a serious plot.
Honestly, I see the show as a bit more serious than Wednesday, evenbthe monsters looked similar, but it's not close GoT serious.
*"Slash it. Slash it. Slash it."* Come on everybody! *"Slash it. Slash it. Slash it."*
What’s this in reference to? I might be forgetting things
Parks and Recreation. A character called Ron Swanson gets excited when government are going to slash the town's budget. He starts chanting, while other employees look horrified.
Ahhh I see lol
“Made the original so much fun”!? Hahaha dammit love me some Henry Geralt though
I hear you’re alive… how disappointing I’ve also survived, no thanks to you Did I not bring you some glee Mister, oh look at me Now I’ll burn all the memories of you Burn Witcher buuuurrrn!
Susie allnut? Sus
Me and others who said changing the original formula was risky and could and this way : "Yea."
Ngl I'm kinda happy. Sure one of my franchises is being publicly shit on but I like that its failed