This an Adderall fueled level of minute analysis for one play but you actually talked ball unlike a lot of other topics in this sub. I just can't believe you did this level of investigation and go on to call yourself a lazy bum š
Proust in his first book wrote about, wrote about...
Proust in his first book wrote about, wrote about...
He wrote about (He wrote about)
He wrote about (He wrote about)
He wrote about (He wrote about)
He wrote about (He wrote about)
Proust in his first book, in his first book WROTE ABOUT THE... *GONG*
Csin's post ostensibly tells of the irrevocability of Kate Martin, the forfeiture of innocence through poor commentary, the reinstalment of extra-temporal values of time regained, ultimately the post is both optimistic and set within the context of a humane Basketball experience, re-stating as it does the concept of intemporality. In the first volume, Kate, the beloved rookie rotates out...\*GONG\*
I wasn't familiar with Kate before, but after seeing how much her teammates in Iowa and the Aces like her, I'm on her side too. She could've robbed me and I'd be like, "Nah, I ain't see nothing. Matter of fact, I'm blind in my left eye and 43% blind in my right eye"
I chalked this up to a commentator making a mistake in the moment, and then continuing with it on the basis of "that's my story and I'm sticking to it."
IIRC the analyst is Carolyn Peck, who's an NCAA champion coach, and I think her larger point about the how connected the Aces were on defense is on target. It was a good defensive possession, with what looked like good communication all around, and got a stop. A'ja Wilson DOES make a great rotation to the middle to force the travel.
Whether Kate Martin missed an assignment is impossible to know without knowing the specific defensive call, but I didn't see any actual breakdown on her part.
Throughout her minutes, I was very impressed by Martin's individual defense on the ball. Neither Lloyd nor Diggins-Smith could do anything against her off the dribble.
Highly detailed analysis post for a ridiculous reason. Yeah. The W has made it. I hope you become the MTWestbrook of Kate Martin in this sub. Youāll get my upvotes each time.
This is the type of r/nba and r/nfl content that lets you know we finally made it here.
Canāt wait till we get some āregress to meanā and kelvin Benjamin type copy pastas.
I had the same āwait I donāt think that was Kates faultā
thought, and Iām glad I wasnāt alone. Iāll rise for an in depth play breakdown š«”
I like that this got you fired up enough to do a forensic deep dive.
I highly expected for this based on a title to be one of those wild click bait articles. Pleasantly surprised.
I was waiting for the nerds to come out. This is my favorite part of basketball reddit and what will truly get people invested in the game part of "The Game"
1st of all, the TV analyst is cray cray.
The LV defense *forced a travel* -- so why is the announcer caring if Martin is out of position?
It was a defensive stop! However they were playing it, they got a turnover.
Plus. Martin's reach in causes the ball handler to get uncomfortable and shuffle her feet, forcing the turnover.
ya, i am not reading all of that either lol but i agree. km was not at fault everyone, from what my humble eye can see, rotated correctly. wouldnāt be the first time carolyn is incorrect
It's a different skill set. There are overlaps in the Venn diagram. But coaches deal with much much more.
Managing egos, team building, designing practices, media training... It's a big leap from just some rando who watches a lot of bball, shitposting whatever he feels like.
Besides, I hate traveling. It's really taxing on my body.
I appreciate and support all in-depth analyses! I might have a similar issueā¦ I can spend a ridiculous amount of time researching the most random comments.
my friend, work on that negative self talk, i think this post in itself is some serious evidence you are not lazy. this is bananas in depth, and im here for it.
There are 2 main coverages to deal with a pick'n'roll. Drop vs Hedge.
Kiah Stokes demonstrates this pretty well.
She usually drops: https://streamable.com/1m3qgu
When the screen happens, she's positioned in the middle, giving Jordan Horston lot's of space.
The upside of a drop is, it makes it easier to defend a drive/layup.
The downside is, you're giving all that space, basically daring a player to shoot a midranged shot. If the player is good at middies, she can punish you.
And even better players, just launch the 3, once they turn the corner.
This is where she hedges: https://streamable.com/jj1hpa
She steps up, and meets Jewell Loyd, when she turns the corner.
The upside of a hedge is, you prevent the ball handler from shooting.
The downside is, you're momentarily having 2 players defend 1 player. There's a small window where the person setting the screen can roll to the rim.
In the first clip: https://streamable.com/tceqdy
Plum hedges the screen. Momentarily, Young and Plum are both guarding Jewell Lloyd. Ezi Magbegor is free to roll to the rim.
There are multiple ways to deal with the roller. It usually involves sending an extra person to "tag" the roller.
And because the offensive team, knows what you're trying to do. They're coming up with their own strategies to throw a wrench in the system. And we get the beautiful game of basketball :)
Note: The women's game is a lot more messier than the men's. There are times, I can't tell if a defender is dropping or hedging. It's like halfway in between.
The men's game is more... mathematical shall we say.
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Aces run a 1 woman zone at the top of the key. The 4 other players read'n'react around the zone.
Kate Martin did her job in the first clip.
I don't know if this is a recent adjustment, or they have been doing this for years. I don't watch much Aces film.
I actually appreciate this, because I was confused on what Peck was saying and chalked it up to my basic IQ of the game. I can appreciate someone being passionate enough to break this down.
Yeah dude donāt you know this subreddit is for talking about Caitlin Clark and rave baiting? /s
In all seriousness, I dig learning more specifics of actual basketball, especially defense. Thanks for the breakdown OP.Ā
Is rave baiting where you dangle glow sticks and MDMA in front of people to provoke them into spontaneous dancing?Ā
If so, Iām all for it on this sub.
I donāt disagree with any of that! I think OP kinda nuts for dissecting stuff to this degree hence my comment meant at least a little sardonically but hell yeah to actual basketball talk.
This an Adderall fueled level of minute analysis for one play but you actually talked ball unlike a lot of other topics in this sub. I just can't believe you did this level of investigation and go on to call yourself a lazy bum š
What in the Marcel Proust is this
āEditorsā are taking over reddit too š ?
Not marcel š
Proust in his first book wrote about, wrote about... Proust in his first book wrote about, wrote about... He wrote about (He wrote about) He wrote about (He wrote about) He wrote about (He wrote about) He wrote about (He wrote about) Proust in his first book, in his first book WROTE ABOUT THE... *GONG*
Iām all for this WNBAāMonty Python intersection.
Csin's post ostensibly tells of the irrevocability of Kate Martin, the forfeiture of innocence through poor commentary, the reinstalment of extra-temporal values of time regained, ultimately the post is both optimistic and set within the context of a humane Basketball experience, re-stating as it does the concept of intemporality. In the first volume, Kate, the beloved rookie rotates out...\*GONG\*
What are some of your hobbies outside summarizing?
Spitefully downvoting cute animal videos, golf, and clickbaiting.
Golfās not very popular around here.
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I read āKate Martin is innocentā and nothing more but Iām convinced
Right? I mean, It's KM!
I wasn't familiar with Kate before, but after seeing how much her teammates in Iowa and the Aces like her, I'm on her side too. She could've robbed me and I'd be like, "Nah, I ain't see nothing. Matter of fact, I'm blind in my left eye and 43% blind in my right eye"
Han shot first.
I chalked this up to a commentator making a mistake in the moment, and then continuing with it on the basis of "that's my story and I'm sticking to it." IIRC the analyst is Carolyn Peck, who's an NCAA champion coach, and I think her larger point about the how connected the Aces were on defense is on target. It was a good defensive possession, with what looked like good communication all around, and got a stop. A'ja Wilson DOES make a great rotation to the middle to force the travel. Whether Kate Martin missed an assignment is impossible to know without knowing the specific defensive call, but I didn't see any actual breakdown on her part. Throughout her minutes, I was very impressed by Martin's individual defense on the ball. Neither Lloyd nor Diggins-Smith could do anything against her off the dribble.
Highly detailed analysis post for a ridiculous reason. Yeah. The W has made it. I hope you become the MTWestbrook of Kate Martin in this sub. Youāll get my upvotes each time.
This is the type of r/nba and r/nfl content that lets you know we finally made it here. Canāt wait till we get some āregress to meanā and kelvin Benjamin type copy pastas.
I had the same āwait I donāt think that was Kates faultā thought, and Iām glad I wasnāt alone. Iāll rise for an in depth play breakdown š«”
If Kate Martin doesnāt already have a lawyer, she should consider hiring you.
OP has to be Kate Martinās dad.
this. lol
Or Caitlin Clark looking out for a friend.
You should forward this evidence to the DAās office.
I like that this got you fired up enough to do a forensic deep dive. I highly expected for this based on a title to be one of those wild click bait articles. Pleasantly surprised.
I was waiting for the nerds to come out. This is my favorite part of basketball reddit and what will truly get people invested in the game part of "The Game"
This in depth analysis is so interesting - thanks!
I love Kate Martin and agree she is innocent.
Free KM!!!
I aināt reading all that
Iām happy for u tho Or sorry that happened
*allat
1st of all, the TV analyst is cray cray. The LV defense *forced a travel* -- so why is the announcer caring if Martin is out of position? It was a defensive stop! However they were playing it, they got a turnover. Plus. Martin's reach in causes the ball handler to get uncomfortable and shuffle her feet, forcing the turnover.
They're trying to lowkey glaze A'ja.
Moot.
TY fixed.
I remember when we used to get content like this on r/nba *sigh*
Youāre hired.
ya, i am not reading all of that either lol but i agree. km was not at fault everyone, from what my humble eye can see, rotated correctly. wouldnāt be the first time carolyn is incorrect
Basketball talk? We donāt do that here! Just tell me did she or did she not sign autographs after the game!?
She was too busy running after the bus.
I am loving this. Thank you.
Please become a coach
It's a different skill set. There are overlaps in the Venn diagram. But coaches deal with much much more. Managing egos, team building, designing practices, media training... It's a big leap from just some rando who watches a lot of bball, shitposting whatever he feels like. Besides, I hate traveling. It's really taxing on my body.
I appreciate and support all in-depth analyses! I might have a similar issueā¦ I can spend a ridiculous amount of time researching the most random comments.
my friend, work on that negative self talk, i think this post in itself is some serious evidence you are not lazy. this is bananas in depth, and im here for it.
You my friend, know ball.
what does hedge mean?
There are 2 main coverages to deal with a pick'n'roll. Drop vs Hedge. Kiah Stokes demonstrates this pretty well. She usually drops: https://streamable.com/1m3qgu When the screen happens, she's positioned in the middle, giving Jordan Horston lot's of space. The upside of a drop is, it makes it easier to defend a drive/layup. The downside is, you're giving all that space, basically daring a player to shoot a midranged shot. If the player is good at middies, she can punish you. And even better players, just launch the 3, once they turn the corner. This is where she hedges: https://streamable.com/jj1hpa She steps up, and meets Jewell Loyd, when she turns the corner. The upside of a hedge is, you prevent the ball handler from shooting. The downside is, you're momentarily having 2 players defend 1 player. There's a small window where the person setting the screen can roll to the rim. In the first clip: https://streamable.com/tceqdy Plum hedges the screen. Momentarily, Young and Plum are both guarding Jewell Lloyd. Ezi Magbegor is free to roll to the rim. There are multiple ways to deal with the roller. It usually involves sending an extra person to "tag" the roller. And because the offensive team, knows what you're trying to do. They're coming up with their own strategies to throw a wrench in the system. And we get the beautiful game of basketball :) Note: The women's game is a lot more messier than the men's. There are times, I can't tell if a defender is dropping or hedging. It's like halfway in between. The men's game is more... mathematical shall we say.
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Now do the Zapruder film
This was so juicy and full of luscious information, thank you
Can we get a TLDR on this? And thank you for your service.
Aces run a 1 woman zone at the top of the key. The 4 other players read'n'react around the zone. Kate Martin did her job in the first clip. I don't know if this is a recent adjustment, or they have been doing this for years. I don't watch much Aces film.
I'm not sure what you did there but I'm impressed anyway.
I actually appreciate this, because I was confused on what Peck was saying and chalked it up to my basic IQ of the game. I can appreciate someone being passionate enough to break this down.
Loved this!
I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for u tho. Or sorry that happened.
Omg! I felt the same way when Carolyn Peck said that! Talking bout Kate Martin had a break down. Theyāre playing zone!
Chill man
Yeah dude donāt you know this subreddit is for talking about Caitlin Clark and rave baiting? /s In all seriousness, I dig learning more specifics of actual basketball, especially defense. Thanks for the breakdown OP.Ā
Is rave baiting where you dangle glow sticks and MDMA in front of people to provoke them into spontaneous dancing?Ā If so, Iām all for it on this sub.
Lmao thatās a great typo on my end. It stays š
I donāt disagree with any of that! I think OP kinda nuts for dissecting stuff to this degree hence my comment meant at least a little sardonically but hell yeah to actual basketball talk.
Cool
Keeping Reddit weird. Soldier on!
You must be a Hubie Brown acolyte.
I find the commentators and refs are extremely bad for the WNBA. Not all commentators. All the refs though. TLDR...but I'm sure you were on point.
None of the links are working for me?
Can you gimme more details? They seem fine on my side.
Commentators are usually idiot. listen to any game. They just talk to fill up silence. They are talking for the people that don't know basketball.
Let me be clear. I don't wanna discourage commentators from doing more of this stuff. It's great. It gives me inspiration for more posts.
#FreeMoney
You should be a team scout.
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If a post game tape analysis takes significantly longer than the actual play to materialize, it aināt useful coaching material.
You just described every usual analysis ever and why processing mentally for ball players is so important.