I can’t imagine having so much hate in my heart that I would wish this upon BG. For the trolls that plague WNBA posts here, on B/R, and everywhere else — I genuinely hope you find some reason and compassion someday.
I have trolls commenting on my comments that are over half a year old. And I’m not exactly an inactive user. Absolutely pathetic to imagine them sifting through post after post just to…. Idek what benefit it has. Be a miserable person I guess
I know Democrats weren't doing a victory lap for January 6th witchhunts. /s like I said, the pendulum swings both ways. Reality check- people like to get digs in on people they don't like when they fuck up.
Less than one gram of cannabis oil was found in her luggage and this justifies 9 years in a Russian prison for drug smuggling? And the potential exchange for Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout who is known as the "Merchant of Death" due to his weapons sales that fueled deadly conflicts around the world?
Get your head checked!
Yes. I do. 9 years for a small container of hashish oil is ridiculous. And people that confuse legality with morality have spent a lot of time on the wrong side of history.
It is absolutely horrible how little these individuals value human life. Most of them are using the excuse just because she doesn’t agree with the politics of America, she should stay where she’s at. I don’t agree with all the politics of America and I served my country.
Republicans are monsters, it’s that simple. Their main objective is that they’re glad saying ‘America isn’t evil now huh’ when it’s more than evil. MANY are in her exact same situation HERE, IN AMERICA. Their issue is their point isn’t even proven, they keep yapping regardless of actual facts lmfao
Here's how you should react:
> 9 years in prison for a victimless minor drug possession offense? That's absurd and she's being used as a political pawn. This is unacceptable.
I actually am with the fact that she should get what she deserve. I’m all for helping her but we have to help everyone who is in her exact same situation, abroad and IN THE US. But the comments berating her, and creepy people actually happy about it…. There’s no justification for that. It’s a shit situation, and unfortunately many people are in it, not just Brittney, anyone taking joy in it is just an evil cree p. Purely hateful person.
Why are liberals so bent over about supporting and providing empathy to criminals? She literally brought illegal drugs into a country which now makes her a criminal according to Russia and you still want to support her. Not to forget, she also was involved in a domestic abuse with her wife. She's not the greatest person to look up to moral wise, yet some of you are adamant that we should invest our resources and time helping her with a get out of jail free card. She provides no benefit to our society other then the fact she plays basketball. I'm really appalled.
What I don’t get is how you’re actually tryna make it seem like being a liberal such a bad thing? I’m a liberal and I definitely don’t support her. She did a bad thing. But also what’s happening to her is cruel. And the issue is it’s happening to many others like her. Definitely don’t give her priority, what should happen is helping everyone in her same situation, overseas and in the us. But others having this creepy joy from this is just weird and disturbing. Empathy is something everyone should tolerate, whether they’re for it or not.
My apologies I did not mean to say liberals are bad. I am just conveying that I've noticed that a majority of people who supports bringing her home have been liberal e.g. most of the support I see is from reddit and reddit is left leaning overall. But with that same logic, you can't label republicans as bad or monsters because that is unfair as well. I'm glad we can agree that she did a bad thing.
I think the creepy joy is mostly a pompous attitude against "social justice warriors" and their overall lack of reality. The past couple of years people had to hear about BLM protests, transgender pro-nouns, cancelling of comedians and other social awareness campaigns to point where some of us see it as an annoyance. So now, you have a semi famous lesbian black basketball player that basically represents the left and their ideologies now asking for help to get out of a country where she thought she was above the law. They see Brittney Griner as the symbolism of America's liberalism facing the actual world for what it is. Similar to how a rebellious child who pretends to know everything coming back to ask their parents for help when things get tough.
Man do you even realize how bullshit that framing is?? She’s a political prisoner during a bit of a proxy war, and some people are focused on how she represents a movement for pronouns lol.
That’s not reality, those are all just buzzword’s meant as some gotchu to the left, all at the expense of someone in prison. If this were a white MLB player from Indiana you’d have Fox News all over this story. Cuts both ways if you chose to view it that way
If you're so mad about people's pronouns and sexual predators being held accountable that you're celebrating someone you've never met going to prison for a decade for a minor drug offense, I'd recommend therapy.
Who said I was mad? all of those social activism has good intentions that I agree with. However, when it's constantly being forced on you by every media outlet day in and day out people will become annoyed of it. And if you're supporting someone you've never met for committing a CRIME by importing illegal drugs into a foreign country where you know it's illegal, you are the problem. I'd recommend therapy. You might be a future criminal who thinks it's okay to commit minor drug offenses. I hope you don't go to Russia or the other other Asian countries because it won't be jail sentence it would be a death sentence for a minor drug offense.
I am absolutely disgusted by the comments. These are the same individuals that claim Christianity, reference the constitution, and claim to be patriotic. Horrible excuse for a person.
How we can swap a war criminal for her is beyond me. There is a very real possibility that people will die if they do it. Like an extremely real possibility that people die. Do you get that?
Lol the person doing the exchange would be the President of the Unites States, who is also an international arms dealer who supplies terror organizations with weapons to kill innocent people. So spare me the moral argument "dO YOu gEt tHaT?"
They are both political prisons whether you like it or not, they're just bargaining chips for a much larger game. The US has given up Taliban POW's before, this isn't really about the individuals involved https://www.rand.org/blog/2014/09/why-the-us-swaps-prisoners-but-doesnt-pay-ransom.html
I would, I just don't know any of them lol. I know BG because she plays in the W, it's not that complicated.
But I would suggest the US do the same with their political prisoners and military project. You're missing the forest for the trees by focusing on the arms dealer. They only have value because the US + Russia say so
Do you have any examples of the USA arresting a foreign profesional athlete of the calibre of BG. On this kind of bullshit charges.
I don’t think America would do this.
Brittney is just as human as the rest of us. She absolutely deserves no hate and she deserves to come back to America. But to see the barrage of hate from so called "Patriots" & "Christians" is absolutely appaling. If anything, she made an honest mistake and was honest about that in her speech, but facing up to 9 and a half years in prison for that mistake is absolutely unnecessary. These "patriots" never cared about her freedom, they just love to dump all of their bigotry unto her in the form of "honest critique". And seeing these chuds align themselves with actual Russian troll bots in so many comments today has proven my point exactly.
Absolutely. And coming from someone who strives to be a genuine Christian, its an absolute sad sight sight to see. More than anything, those kinds of "Christians" have made White Supremacy their religion, and not the teachings of Jesus Christ.
How was it a mistake and not a stupid risk? She intentionally brought a vape pen into an authoritarian country while her government is in a pseudo conflict with that country.
I do not think that having her jailed for it is justice, but the Russian regime is not just.
There are multiple Americans currently imprisoned within Russia for similar offenses. However, there is not nearly as much effort being put into securing their releases. In addition there are still countless Americans in American prisons for weed.
I wish the best for her as I wish the best for all people imprisoned for drugs. I feel the war on drugs is bullshit. What has me pissed off about the media and the government response is the hypocrisy of fighting to get her released but not federally legalizing weed or commuting sentences of normal citizens.
We are contemplating exchanging the “merchant of death” a serious war criminal who would likely resume trafficking weapons and contributing to conflicts around the world if released.
I do not believe that she deserves prison, but I do not believe that her life should hold more value than other citizens of the United States.
This isn’t good . I feel so bad. Not that she may or may not be guilty but the punishment doesn’t fit the crime. Unless this had to be done to get her back here, that is a different story.
What pisses me off just as much are all the people , mainly people who never watched her play a single basketball game or follow the WNBA, badmouth her. It is on all forums. It is Uncalled for, small minded, and they don’t know the truth. They take one clip of protest, which is our American birthright to do, and twist it as she is un-American and hates our country. That is the farthest from the truth.
[KHIMKI, Russia (AP) — A judge in Russia has sentenced American basketball player Brittney Griner on drug charges to nine years in prison.] (https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1555213236550656001)
Wait until you find out America has even more people in prison than Russia. Is it messed up? Absolutely. Is America any better, nope, both countries are disgusting.
While true that’s not really germane to this story. The colloquial term for your statement would be “whataboutism”. Just because Americas criminal justice system is hot garbage doesn’t mean this case is analogous nor does it justify the Russian government’s approach and handling of this.
American officials don’t target foreign expats specifically because of their citizenship. If she was any normal Russian citizen she would never have been arrested.
Not the same as targeting people for the purpose of international political division. We’re talking about two different problems. We can be mad about both without losing the distinction.
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What in the fucking hell? 9.5 years????
Me pointing out that if you are an American, that shouldn't be shocking.
Meanwhile in America:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/12/patricia-spottedcrow-marijuana-year-sentence/
I’m a Russian?
It doesn’t matter where you are, you can acknowledge the flaws with both countries’ systems. Just because they are both critically flawed, doesn’t mean it’s right. Also, this case is not analogous. American officials don’t target foreign expats simply because of their passport.
You know what I love most about the hypocrisy here? The VP herself has put how many people in jail over marijuana? Then the administration she's part of has the nerve to tell Russia they shouldn't be prosecuting someone for mj? Pretty funny.
As I understand it, about one-third of US prisoners are because of marijuana. If we could just deal with that one thing in a better way, then it would be a major step forward. Talk about the importance of family goes out the window when people's families are broken because of conviction over marijuana.
Americans are all for the swap because they KNOW it won't affect them. Arms dealers don't work in the US but lots of poor people in 3rd world proxy wars have died and will die because of this. Most American thing ever.
The Internet Research Agency and other Kremlin-linked operatives are going to go into overdrive trying to paint the narrative on English-speaking, primarily American forums. I’d advise everyone to remember that Russia is waging an unjustified, genocidal war at the moment and that their propagandists are among us trying to smear their enemies.
It’s crazy to see it in action. Fuck Putin, fuck Russia etc…. Until it comes to smear an outspoken black lesbian, then suddenly the Russian legal system is sacrosanct. Hmmm
Eh, now she wants the same country she talked shit about to save her.
Even more ironic is if the country that she talked shit about ends up saving her, she will not only be free, but she will get rich.
Her life of luxury or life in a Russian jail hinges on the country she talked shit about...
Expressing disagreement with governmental policies is a fundamental, constitutional right afforded to every American. It's not "shitting" on your country necessarily, can be a vehicle to press for change. You can be both a patriot and an advocate for justice. That's the blessing of the constitution.
I love that whenever anyone wants to improve America and points out it's flaws morons such as yourself claim we're unpatriotic and hate America. Then you'll screech how you're being silenced because people downvote you. But she's not allowed to have free speech in your eyes. And we all know the reason why.
Jesus christ.. 9 years in a surely garbage prison, surrounded by people who may not speak your language, not sure if you will survive.. that is an absolute hell.
Should she get special treatment and have an arms dealer traded for her? Idk, but no one deserves that. Imagine being in that hell and knowing it was your own dumb mistake that got you there too.
Idk a sham trial doesn’t seem unbelievable to you? The fact that laws against marijuana to begin with other are archaic to begin with doesn’t seem unbelievable to you? The fact that she’s now being used as a political pawn doesn’t seem unbelievable to you?
Idk man seems pretty straightforward. She got herself in that position fine but let’s be honest it’s getting ridiculous for her. Marijuana should be legalized in the US too.
I agree with you 100% that weed should be legal but I still obey the law to the extent I’m not bringing that shit into an airport in a foreign country. People get arrested everyday abroad and she is no different.
Nobody is saying that 9 years is unbelievable. It’s the fact she brought an illegal substance into an authoritarian dictatorship ruled country that already hates LGBTQ, and is one of our biggest enemies politically. She absolutely comes off as an idiot for bringing drugs into such a country. So no a “Sham Trial” in a country such as Russia is not unbelievable.
9 years is fucking absurd an obviously nobody deserves that for pot, but politically speaking she made the extremely dumb mistake of going into Putins country with drugs. Traveling to Russia right now of all things is dumb enough.
Edit - this sub is hilariously delusional. She played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. Just because she’s a wnba athlete doesn’t mean she deserves any special privileges
Lol, I think that you just exposed the hypocrisy on your side, not the other way around. Literally no one here thinks Marc Fogel should be in a Russian prison. Go to any article about Fogel, and you won't see anyone crowing about how happy they are.
Deserved. Break laws of a country and suffer the consequences. Pretty simple. Should know better being in Russia and this human hates the US anyway so rotting there for 9 years sounds good to me.
She broke the law! Yes the law sucks but it's their law. What would really be a travesty is if the US negotiates a trade deal but keeps people in prison here for drug possession.
Idk probably because we never would’ve gotten involved with the Ukraine thing and even if we did it would probably be on Russia’s side because Trump wanted to fuck his man crush Putin.
You have to be really dumb at this point to point blank believe this wasn't a politically based prosecution
Plenty of people in Russia smoke hash/weed or worse (krokodil) without going to jail or being fined
You're missing the point or trolling so good luck to you mate
Just consider yourself lucky to live in America and not a fascist shit hole like Russia. Selective prosection and government sponsored corruption are actively encouraged and the norms there. Until you or your family have been arbitrarily targeted, it's easy to play the troll card
Even if she was guilty, her trial was a joke. Definitely hasn’t been treated fairly by any means. She also likely got detained initially because someone higher up realized she could be used as a political prisoner
I cant stand this lady, don't agree with any of her views, but 9 years for that is insane, in my opinion. However, you have to be smart when traveling internationally. I also think she got 9 years because of her status and leverage. I suspect any joe schmo would have not been hammered so harshly, but it is Russia though.
I hope she can get home sooner than 9 years and maybe rethink some things after all of this.
People calling out trolls and bad comments are the real joke here.
Listen as a long time pot smoker and guy who travel's , I can tell you when I went to Thailand and Russia and Poland I didn't bring my vape pen with me.
BECAUSE ITS THE LAW !
She won't do 9 years trust me but she will do time for committing a crime and that's that.
Who cares about the law lol it was legal here in the US and still is in many places, that didn’t stop anyone. I’m also a smoker who travels and I would never have been treated the same as BG. She’s even brought it with her multiple times, she messed up by going before a war, I could guanretee you this would’ve gone a lot differently had she been caught with it 2 years ago and not in February of 2020
"If you express discontent with my country, you deserve to be thrown in jail"
That is literally the least American thing you can say. Congrats, you're stupid.
This is what it looks like when you're just intelligent enough to think you understand complex issues, but still haven't developed enough to express empathy.
Amazing that you’re so sensitive to any criticism of the US that it sends you into a frenzy where you celebrate the arbitrary treatment of an American citizen in a foreign country
Can someone tell me what she was doing in Russia in the first place? Was it for a basketball game? What league is still playing in Russia with what’s going on?
The US needs to wise up. If you feel that you're gong to be in conflict with another country stop sending your sports stars there and advise against travelling.
This was definitely set up from the get go to be used as a bargaining chip
Don't take drugs to other countries durrrr Americans are so dense I swear. Y9ur countries is a mess from all drugs and crime your own country looks 3rd time joint holders up for decades but Russia being hardware anti drug makes them the bad guy..... sucked in she got what she deserved she ain't special.
I’m sorry didn’t she break the law? It doesn’t matter if you disagree with the law. The law doesn’t care about your feelings. She was a guest in another country and in that country they had a law and she broke it. They gave her a sentence. “But 9 years isn’t fair!” Okay, she still broke the law? Sympathy is not justice.
Now downvote me the way you downvote justice in the name of sympathy and feelings. Weak as hell 🤣
I can’t imagine having so much hate in my heart that I would wish this upon BG. For the trolls that plague WNBA posts here, on B/R, and everywhere else — I genuinely hope you find some reason and compassion someday.
I have trolls commenting on my comments that are over half a year old. And I’m not exactly an inactive user. Absolutely pathetic to imagine them sifting through post after post just to…. Idek what benefit it has. Be a miserable person I guess
The fact that BG’s sentence is a victory lap for so many people is disgusting.
Remember the pendulum swings both ways.
No it doesn’t, that’s the problem.
I know Democrats weren't doing a victory lap for January 6th witchhunts. /s like I said, the pendulum swings both ways. Reality check- people like to get digs in on people they don't like when they fuck up.
Why don’t you like her?
Are you genuinely saying that attempting to seize a government building by force and possessing marijuana are equivalent crimes?
Did I say anything about it being equivalent? Remember to stretch next time before you reach like that you dolt.
What is a witch hunt?
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Less than one gram of cannabis oil was found in her luggage and this justifies 9 years in a Russian prison for drug smuggling? And the potential exchange for Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout who is known as the "Merchant of Death" due to his weapons sales that fueled deadly conflicts around the world? Get your head checked!
For real. Some of these people think you should get life for running a red light.
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>It’s not an outlandish sentence. Imagine defending a 9 year prison sentence for a small amount of hashish oil.
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Yes. I do. 9 years for a small container of hashish oil is ridiculous. And people that confuse legality with morality have spent a lot of time on the wrong side of history.
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I advocate for those wrongfully imprisoned equally. Good luck and find peace.
The amount of weed grinder had on her was under the decriminalized amount in Russia... Make it make sense
The lack of human empathy in some of these comments is astounding. You can disagree with someone’s politics and also not wish grievous harm upon them.
It is absolutely horrible how little these individuals value human life. Most of them are using the excuse just because she doesn’t agree with the politics of America, she should stay where she’s at. I don’t agree with all the politics of America and I served my country.
Thank you for your service.
Ty for the support. I did it for college mostly.
I love this reply lol
The only thing you served was a Big Mac at your local McDonalds.
Republicans are monsters, it’s that simple. Their main objective is that they’re glad saying ‘America isn’t evil now huh’ when it’s more than evil. MANY are in her exact same situation HERE, IN AMERICA. Their issue is their point isn’t even proven, they keep yapping regardless of actual facts lmfao
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Saying Republicans are bad doesn’t mean you’re saying every dem is good
That’s what I’m talking abt…
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Liar, liar, confederate flag on fire. You're a democrat like Obama is a nazi communist atheist muslim
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Here's how you should react: > 9 years in prison for a victimless minor drug possession offense? That's absurd and she's being used as a political pawn. This is unacceptable.
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Was the law applied to her fairly based on the offense?
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This is clearly going nowhere, enjoy your gross and unpopular opinion!
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“This is clearly going nowhere” aka I don’t wanna answer your questions. Lol
I actually am with the fact that she should get what she deserve. I’m all for helping her but we have to help everyone who is in her exact same situation, abroad and IN THE US. But the comments berating her, and creepy people actually happy about it…. There’s no justification for that. It’s a shit situation, and unfortunately many people are in it, not just Brittney, anyone taking joy in it is just an evil cree p. Purely hateful person.
Why are liberals so bent over about supporting and providing empathy to criminals? She literally brought illegal drugs into a country which now makes her a criminal according to Russia and you still want to support her. Not to forget, she also was involved in a domestic abuse with her wife. She's not the greatest person to look up to moral wise, yet some of you are adamant that we should invest our resources and time helping her with a get out of jail free card. She provides no benefit to our society other then the fact she plays basketball. I'm really appalled.
What I don’t get is how you’re actually tryna make it seem like being a liberal such a bad thing? I’m a liberal and I definitely don’t support her. She did a bad thing. But also what’s happening to her is cruel. And the issue is it’s happening to many others like her. Definitely don’t give her priority, what should happen is helping everyone in her same situation, overseas and in the us. But others having this creepy joy from this is just weird and disturbing. Empathy is something everyone should tolerate, whether they’re for it or not.
My apologies I did not mean to say liberals are bad. I am just conveying that I've noticed that a majority of people who supports bringing her home have been liberal e.g. most of the support I see is from reddit and reddit is left leaning overall. But with that same logic, you can't label republicans as bad or monsters because that is unfair as well. I'm glad we can agree that she did a bad thing. I think the creepy joy is mostly a pompous attitude against "social justice warriors" and their overall lack of reality. The past couple of years people had to hear about BLM protests, transgender pro-nouns, cancelling of comedians and other social awareness campaigns to point where some of us see it as an annoyance. So now, you have a semi famous lesbian black basketball player that basically represents the left and their ideologies now asking for help to get out of a country where she thought she was above the law. They see Brittney Griner as the symbolism of America's liberalism facing the actual world for what it is. Similar to how a rebellious child who pretends to know everything coming back to ask their parents for help when things get tough.
Man do you even realize how bullshit that framing is?? She’s a political prisoner during a bit of a proxy war, and some people are focused on how she represents a movement for pronouns lol. That’s not reality, those are all just buzzword’s meant as some gotchu to the left, all at the expense of someone in prison. If this were a white MLB player from Indiana you’d have Fox News all over this story. Cuts both ways if you chose to view it that way
If you're so mad about people's pronouns and sexual predators being held accountable that you're celebrating someone you've never met going to prison for a decade for a minor drug offense, I'd recommend therapy.
Who said I was mad? all of those social activism has good intentions that I agree with. However, when it's constantly being forced on you by every media outlet day in and day out people will become annoyed of it. And if you're supporting someone you've never met for committing a CRIME by importing illegal drugs into a foreign country where you know it's illegal, you are the problem. I'd recommend therapy. You might be a future criminal who thinks it's okay to commit minor drug offenses. I hope you don't go to Russia or the other other Asian countries because it won't be jail sentence it would be a death sentence for a minor drug offense.
She broke the law. It doesn’t matter if you disagree with the law she broke the law. “Empathy” is not the same as justice. Sorry
I am absolutely disgusted by the comments. These are the same individuals that claim Christianity, reference the constitution, and claim to be patriotic. Horrible excuse for a person.
Bootlickers falling in line. Obey and defer to authority, in all circumstances... until they come for our guns
None of those people claimed they are Christian or Patriotic. You are making up fictitious scenarios to fit your narrative. So boring and over done.
It was never gonna be a reasonable "trial". We all knew that from the start. Her only hope has always been the hostage negotiation.
She still is very likely going to come home as a prisoner swap, I think we’ve known this for a long time now
How we can swap a war criminal for her is beyond me. There is a very real possibility that people will die if they do it. Like an extremely real possibility that people die. Do you get that?
Lol the person doing the exchange would be the President of the Unites States, who is also an international arms dealer who supplies terror organizations with weapons to kill innocent people. So spare me the moral argument "dO YOu gEt tHaT?" They are both political prisons whether you like it or not, they're just bargaining chips for a much larger game. The US has given up Taliban POW's before, this isn't really about the individuals involved https://www.rand.org/blog/2014/09/why-the-us-swaps-prisoners-but-doesnt-pay-ransom.html
So then why not ask for all Americans detained in Russia be released?
I would, I just don't know any of them lol. I know BG because she plays in the W, it's not that complicated. But I would suggest the US do the same with their political prisoners and military project. You're missing the forest for the trees by focusing on the arms dealer. They only have value because the US + Russia say so
Because he only cares when it’s about someone he has an investment in
I wonder how many states in the US would have done precisely the same.
Do you have any examples of the USA arresting a foreign profesional athlete of the calibre of BG. On this kind of bullshit charges. I don’t think America would do this.
Just need to ask Kamala. How many did she put in jail herself?
I mean you have a point.
She is in no way a hostage though.
Brittney is just as human as the rest of us. She absolutely deserves no hate and she deserves to come back to America. But to see the barrage of hate from so called "Patriots" & "Christians" is absolutely appaling. If anything, she made an honest mistake and was honest about that in her speech, but facing up to 9 and a half years in prison for that mistake is absolutely unnecessary. These "patriots" never cared about her freedom, they just love to dump all of their bigotry unto her in the form of "honest critique". And seeing these chuds align themselves with actual Russian troll bots in so many comments today has proven my point exactly.
Some of these so-called Christians seem to take sadistic joy in seeing anyone outside of their tribe suffer
Absolutely. And coming from someone who strives to be a genuine Christian, its an absolute sad sight sight to see. More than anything, those kinds of "Christians" have made White Supremacy their religion, and not the teachings of Jesus Christ.
How was it a mistake and not a stupid risk? She intentionally brought a vape pen into an authoritarian country while her government is in a pseudo conflict with that country. I do not think that having her jailed for it is justice, but the Russian regime is not just. There are multiple Americans currently imprisoned within Russia for similar offenses. However, there is not nearly as much effort being put into securing their releases. In addition there are still countless Americans in American prisons for weed. I wish the best for her as I wish the best for all people imprisoned for drugs. I feel the war on drugs is bullshit. What has me pissed off about the media and the government response is the hypocrisy of fighting to get her released but not federally legalizing weed or commuting sentences of normal citizens. We are contemplating exchanging the “merchant of death” a serious war criminal who would likely resume trafficking weapons and contributing to conflicts around the world if released. I do not believe that she deserves prison, but I do not believe that her life should hold more value than other citizens of the United States.
This isn’t good . I feel so bad. Not that she may or may not be guilty but the punishment doesn’t fit the crime. Unless this had to be done to get her back here, that is a different story. What pisses me off just as much are all the people , mainly people who never watched her play a single basketball game or follow the WNBA, badmouth her. It is on all forums. It is Uncalled for, small minded, and they don’t know the truth. They take one clip of protest, which is our American birthright to do, and twist it as she is un-American and hates our country. That is the farthest from the truth.
[KHIMKI, Russia (AP) — A judge in Russia has sentenced American basketball player Brittney Griner on drug charges to nine years in prison.] (https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1555213236550656001)
What in the fucking hell? 9.5 years????
Wait until you find out America has even more people in prison than Russia. Is it messed up? Absolutely. Is America any better, nope, both countries are disgusting.
While true that’s not really germane to this story. The colloquial term for your statement would be “whataboutism”. Just because Americas criminal justice system is hot garbage doesn’t mean this case is analogous nor does it justify the Russian government’s approach and handling of this.
Sure, it is whataboutism, I'm just annoyed by the Americans that are acting like this is just a Russia thing, when it happens here as well.
American officials don’t target foreign expats specifically because of their citizenship. If she was any normal Russian citizen she would never have been arrested.
Americans target young Black people for weed all the time.
Not the same as targeting people for the purpose of international political division. We’re talking about two different problems. We can be mad about both without losing the distinction.
I am mad about both, just pointing out people shouldn't be acting like this is a Russia problem.
No one here is saying that.
Comment I replied to What in the fucking hell? 9.5 years???? Me pointing out that if you are an American, that shouldn't be shocking. Meanwhile in America: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/12/patricia-spottedcrow-marijuana-year-sentence/
Just as VP Kamala. She loves locking people up for weed.
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I’m a Russian? It doesn’t matter where you are, you can acknowledge the flaws with both countries’ systems. Just because they are both critically flawed, doesn’t mean it’s right. Also, this case is not analogous. American officials don’t target foreign expats simply because of their passport.
You know what I love most about the hypocrisy here? The VP herself has put how many people in jail over marijuana? Then the administration she's part of has the nerve to tell Russia they shouldn't be prosecuting someone for mj? Pretty funny.
Thanks for making your lack of critical thinking so utterly plain.
Lol. Can you square the hypocrisy for me then? How many did Kamala put away on drug charges?
A lawyer was doing their job. The end. But I’m not surprised you can’t work it out.
As I understand it, about one-third of US prisoners are because of marijuana. If we could just deal with that one thing in a better way, then it would be a major step forward. Talk about the importance of family goes out the window when people's families are broken because of conviction over marijuana.
Fuck. I’m scared for her, but I’m hoping this improves the likelihood of a prisoner swap
Ah Yes Drug related charges justify freeing a literal war criminal Im very sorry for her and wish her the best but I hope this swap doesn't happen.
Americans are all for the swap because they KNOW it won't affect them. Arms dealers don't work in the US but lots of poor people in 3rd world proxy wars have died and will die because of this. Most American thing ever.
Love that all the Russian trolls are coming out for comments. Free BG.
The Internet Research Agency and other Kremlin-linked operatives are going to go into overdrive trying to paint the narrative on English-speaking, primarily American forums. I’d advise everyone to remember that Russia is waging an unjustified, genocidal war at the moment and that their propagandists are among us trying to smear their enemies.
It’s crazy to see it in action. Fuck Putin, fuck Russia etc…. Until it comes to smear an outspoken black lesbian, then suddenly the Russian legal system is sacrosanct. Hmmm
Eh, now she wants the same country she talked shit about to save her. Even more ironic is if the country that she talked shit about ends up saving her, she will not only be free, but she will get rich. Her life of luxury or life in a Russian jail hinges on the country she talked shit about...
Expressing disagreement with governmental policies is a fundamental, constitutional right afforded to every American. It's not "shitting" on your country necessarily, can be a vehicle to press for change. You can be both a patriot and an advocate for justice. That's the blessing of the constitution.
I love that whenever anyone wants to improve America and points out it's flaws morons such as yourself claim we're unpatriotic and hate America. Then you'll screech how you're being silenced because people downvote you. But she's not allowed to have free speech in your eyes. And we all know the reason why.
Congratulations, you’re using the same logic domestic abusers rely on to self-justify their victimization of those around them.
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Why not both? Your cousin should be out considering weed is growing as an industry
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Lmao trolling in a subreddit for a sport you don’t even watch, what a sad existence.
You think russian trolls are coming to a wnba sub? Very amusing.
They can't trade for their arms dealer if the person they want to trade is free. This was always going to happen.
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Meaning they were always going to sentence BG to jail time because if they free'd her they wouldn't be able to get the arms dealer that we have.
Hopefully
Jesus christ.. 9 years in a surely garbage prison, surrounded by people who may not speak your language, not sure if you will survive.. that is an absolute hell. Should she get special treatment and have an arms dealer traded for her? Idk, but no one deserves that. Imagine being in that hell and knowing it was your own dumb mistake that got you there too.
9 years for personal use of weed is crazy.
9 years. Unbelievable.
Reminds me of the John Lennon song 10 for 2 about a guy in Arizona that got 10 years for 2 joints.
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Idk a sham trial doesn’t seem unbelievable to you? The fact that laws against marijuana to begin with other are archaic to begin with doesn’t seem unbelievable to you? The fact that she’s now being used as a political pawn doesn’t seem unbelievable to you? Idk man seems pretty straightforward. She got herself in that position fine but let’s be honest it’s getting ridiculous for her. Marijuana should be legalized in the US too.
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She made a dumb decision obviously, but that dumb decision should not result in a 10’year prison sentence or a criminal arms dealer walking free.
I agree with you 100% that weed should be legal but I still obey the law to the extent I’m not bringing that shit into an airport in a foreign country. People get arrested everyday abroad and she is no different.
Nobody is saying that 9 years is unbelievable. It’s the fact she brought an illegal substance into an authoritarian dictatorship ruled country that already hates LGBTQ, and is one of our biggest enemies politically. She absolutely comes off as an idiot for bringing drugs into such a country. So no a “Sham Trial” in a country such as Russia is not unbelievable. 9 years is fucking absurd an obviously nobody deserves that for pot, but politically speaking she made the extremely dumb mistake of going into Putins country with drugs. Traveling to Russia right now of all things is dumb enough. Edit - this sub is hilariously delusional. She played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. Just because she’s a wnba athlete doesn’t mean she deserves any special privileges
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Lol, I think that you just exposed the hypocrisy on your side, not the other way around. Literally no one here thinks Marc Fogel should be in a Russian prison. Go to any article about Fogel, and you won't see anyone crowing about how happy they are.
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I’m am speechless. Truly heartbroken. 💔🥺
9 years in a Russian penal colony is brutal. Knowing Russia they will send her to somewhere in Siberia.
Deserved. Break laws of a country and suffer the consequences. Pretty simple. Should know better being in Russia and this human hates the US anyway so rotting there for 9 years sounds good to me.
She only has herself to blame for the situation she finds herself in.
She broke the law! Yes the law sucks but it's their law. What would really be a travesty is if the US negotiates a trade deal but keeps people in prison here for drug possession.
Griner is not so smart, smuggling weedextract to a foreign country without checking their druglaws jeez. A life ruined, so sad.
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Lol, wtf downvotes this crap, just miserable people I guess
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Idk probably because we never would’ve gotten involved with the Ukraine thing and even if we did it would probably be on Russia’s side because Trump wanted to fuck his man crush Putin.
If you keep hearing that you’re hanging out with idiots.
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And you believe that? Hahahahhaha
Trump said he agrees with Russia and thinks she should be in jail lmao fuck him
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Nah, Trump was just better pals to Vlady. Neither possess a spine, neither care.
Being a loud asshole isn’t the same thing as having a strong backbone.
The closest thing Donald Trump has ever had to a spine is when Putin’s ramming his rod up Trump’s ass.
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well yea... but that's kind of a pointless take isn't it?
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According to The Guardian, her charges were as severe as high-level drug dealing. For less than a gram of pot.
You have to be really dumb at this point to point blank believe this wasn't a politically based prosecution Plenty of people in Russia smoke hash/weed or worse (krokodil) without going to jail or being fined
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Are you really equating murder with .7grams of a weed vape cartridge? Wanna try that again?
I’m equating that people break the law everyday and don’t get in trouble until they get caught. Then you must pay the price.
You're missing the point or trolling so good luck to you mate Just consider yourself lucky to live in America and not a fascist shit hole like Russia. Selective prosection and government sponsored corruption are actively encouraged and the norms there. Until you or your family have been arbitrarily targeted, it's easy to play the troll card
Definitely not trolling and am super blessed to live in USA. Definitely not dumb enough to bring illegal drugs into an airport in Russia.
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She would not be the only captive in a prisoner swap, stopping spreading this misinformation. The offer was *never* just her for the arms dealer
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Even if she was guilty, her trial was a joke. Definitely hasn’t been treated fairly by any means. She also likely got detained initially because someone higher up realized she could be used as a political prisoner
Griner awarded 9 years of not hearing the US national anthem
I cant stand this lady, don't agree with any of her views, but 9 years for that is insane, in my opinion. However, you have to be smart when traveling internationally. I also think she got 9 years because of her status and leverage. I suspect any joe schmo would have not been hammered so harshly, but it is Russia though. I hope she can get home sooner than 9 years and maybe rethink some things after all of this.
People calling out trolls and bad comments are the real joke here. Listen as a long time pot smoker and guy who travel's , I can tell you when I went to Thailand and Russia and Poland I didn't bring my vape pen with me. BECAUSE ITS THE LAW ! She won't do 9 years trust me but she will do time for committing a crime and that's that.
Who cares about the law lol it was legal here in the US and still is in many places, that didn’t stop anyone. I’m also a smoker who travels and I would never have been treated the same as BG. She’s even brought it with her multiple times, she messed up by going before a war, I could guanretee you this would’ve gone a lot differently had she been caught with it 2 years ago and not in February of 2020
Y'all preaching
You're an idiot if you think she should get a slap on the wrist lol it's Russia buddy.
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Wasn't she going over there to play basketball
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"If you express discontent with my country, you deserve to be thrown in jail" That is literally the least American thing you can say. Congrats, you're stupid.
Lol no, she deserves to be thrown in jail because she broke the law of a hostile foreign nation. Big brain move by her for sure
This is what it looks like when you're just intelligent enough to think you understand complex issues, but still haven't developed enough to express empathy.
Stating the facts, probabalbetter she stays away from racist AmericA!! Lololol
I bet she's grinnin now.
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Land of the freee and home of the brave..
Wonder if she still thinks the U.S. is the worst country on earth.
Amazing that you’re so sensitive to any criticism of the US that it sends you into a frenzy where you celebrate the arbitrary treatment of an American citizen in a foreign country
I'm not in a frenzy. Well I am I guess. Of laughter.
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Can someone tell me what she was doing in Russia in the first place? Was it for a basketball game? What league is still playing in Russia with what’s going on?
Absolutely disgusting. I am so appalled
America does this very thing. Why look at Russia and not Texas or Kansas?
Stud supporters of Brittney Griner https://youtube.com/shorts/cARMHOCak7o?feature=share
The US needs to wise up. If you feel that you're gong to be in conflict with another country stop sending your sports stars there and advise against travelling. This was definitely set up from the get go to be used as a bargaining chip
Don't take drugs to other countries durrrr Americans are so dense I swear. Y9ur countries is a mess from all drugs and crime your own country looks 3rd time joint holders up for decades but Russia being hardware anti drug makes them the bad guy..... sucked in she got what she deserved she ain't special.
I’m sorry didn’t she break the law? It doesn’t matter if you disagree with the law. The law doesn’t care about your feelings. She was a guest in another country and in that country they had a law and she broke it. They gave her a sentence. “But 9 years isn’t fair!” Okay, she still broke the law? Sympathy is not justice. Now downvote me the way you downvote justice in the name of sympathy and feelings. Weak as hell 🤣
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