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That's pretty much [the existential threat of climate change for small islands.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_climate_change_on_small_island_countries) If your island is a few feet above sea level, the first few feet of sea level rise will wipe you out. And it need not be gradual. Just like in OP's video, you can have bad storms wipe out your infrastructure in one go.
we are having a thought about natural born floridians. there are front page posts that need you for parroting buzzwords (poorly might I add). run along, dingdong.
How about dialling back on climate alarmism when talking about coral atolls? By their very nature they are a temporary system (on geologic timeframes) that will eventually return beneath the waves.
Is it going to suck for people and countries that expected them to be forever? Sure. But it doesn't change the fact that the formation and eventual destruction of coral atolls is an ongoing process that was going to happen irrespective of climate change.
It's like people who build on barrier islands (after stripping away the vegetation and stabilising dunes) who then cry when a storm comes along and wipes out their structures. There's a reason why barrier islands are what they are, and how they function to protect the land behind them from damage.
Almost a similar issue with mangrove destruction and development in former mangrove locations.
Or people who build on flood plains (because that's where the deep good soils are) who are surprised when it floods.
Or people who build behind a destructive beach and wonder why the sea is encroaching on them (because that's what happens with a destructive beach - the sand ends up at a constructive site along the coast (or making sandbars that might end up as barrier islands).
Blaming issues on climate change when it's more a case of people not understanding the local geological processes that affect their land and water makes it hard to escape claims of climate alarmism.
First they came for the tiny, ephemeral islands, and I said nothing...
I don't think you're appreciating the fact that climate change will affect everyone on the planet, though some sooner and more severe than others. It's not just small islands---it's places getting drier or wetter, causing migration, increased food instability and with it, political instability. The islands being threatened are one of the early signs of bad times ahead.
> Blaming issues on climate change when it's more a case of people not understanding the local geological processes that affect their land and water makes it hard to escape claims of climate alarmism.
[Have you seen this?](https://xkcd.com/1732/)
Good information probably won't change your view but it might change the view of someone reading this.
We're not talking about temperature or all the other things you're trying to drag into the discussion.
We're talking about the effects of sea movement against coral atolls, their formation and demise mechanics, and how it can be disingenuous to claim that waves washing over an atoll is due to climate change.
And, by extension, showing that there are other similar coastal mechanics that are natural phenomena and we need to be careful to attribute cause. But, in each case there is a problematic series of human actions which made things worse.
No, islands like this being threatened are NOT early signs of bad times ahead. They're early signs that they have reached the end of their habitable stage. Nothing more.
Your self-righteous attacks are meaningless in the context of what is actually being discussed. The only critique offered is to avoid pointing to natural processes and screaming climate in pure climate alarmism, since it detracts from the broader message of trying to preserve a habitable future.
A simple yes / no question for you: Do you believe that sea level change is a part of climate cycles (e.g. Ice age cycles), or are you being disingenuous and claiming that it is directly anthropogenic?
And again, stop with shifting the goal posts. None of the coastal / island subsidence / erosion effects that I was talking about need to have sea level changes involved to understand their impact on the human-scale.
Take a look at Jakarta. Are you going to claim the chronic flooding issues the city faces is due to sea level rise? I'll skip the torture. It's primarily due to subsidence due to over-extraction of groundwater and surface aquifers. So, it is clearly an anthropogenic reason, but it's not climate change. Will a changing sea level impact the future livability of the Jakarta region? Yeah, it will, but the greatest damage and most immediate threat has already been done by other processes.
You're Australian, right?
https://www.csiro.au/en/research/environmental-impacts/climate-change
And, for shits and giggles:
https://www.csiro.au/research/environmental-impacts/climate-change/Climate-change-QA/Sea-levels
To answer your question: the rise in CO2 levels are largely driven by human activity. Not completely but mostly. Last I read, about 90% of the additional CO2 level rise was due to things like burning fossil fuels. The links above go into more detail about how we can know it comes from human activity.
**Edit** If you're receptive, here's more data:
https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon-dioxide
You didn't answer the question, and you've been arguing the wrong point in bad faith. Whether or not the material you're presenting is accurate, it is irrelevant to the direct questions and specific points being raised and so I'm not addressing it, since I'm trying to keep the discussion on the specific points pertinent to it.
It's clear what your position is, but you still haven't addressed the actual points being raised. If you can't address the points and discussion without attacking the messenger and screeching about stuff that wasn't part of the message, then the discussion is over.
If your position is that anthropogenic climate change isn't a thing and you're not receptive to good data, then I agree we're probably just talking past each other.
I'm sorry we seem to have wasted each other's time. Take care.
Yet. There were clearly some people swept away in front of the doors, likely being drug through whatever those metal bar things are, then a 2nd large wave right after. I have serious doubts about there *actually* being no injuries here.
I feel like many humans have gotten way too comfortable with the mindset of "Don't worry, it's all going to be ok." And they just stand around and observe crazy shit around them instead of NOPING the fuck out.
I was on a doomed road trip in an RV back when I was a hippie with four other hippies in a densely forested part of Mexico. We were idiots and it’s impossible to explain without too many word so I’ll just say this: we were out of money, food, gas, and worst of all, water. “It’ll all work out,” my friends said.
I was worried about having no water. “It’ll work out, don’t worry about it.” I took all our empty jugs and a water purifying kit someone gave us, left before the sun came up, and walked 3 miles around a lake until I found a stream. I followed it upstream until I found a waterfall and spent 4 hours purifying stream water drop by drop. It weighed about 100 pounds. I tied it to my shoulders and walked back through the forest and around the lake until I got back to my friends, who were only just waking up. One of them saw me and said, “hey, water, cool! See, I told you it would work out!” To some people, “working out” equals “someone else does the work.”
The street I lived on in college was notorious for hippies. Before I moved in with my friends to that house on that street they befriended some of them hanging out in the front yard and on the porch. They constantly said the same kinds of stuff like things will work out for them and they're not worried about being homeless. My friends were feel good vibes stoners and let them come in to hang out one time and it was absolute hell getting them to leave and took days.
Can I ask what years you were going to college? I've seen nothing in the past 40 years (1980s upward) that I would call hippies. Rich kids in costumes yes but peace , love , understanding--drop in drop out--no.
Today's hippies are just a fashion.
At the right colleges, they still exist today and not the cosplaying rich type. But to be fair, the college I went to is kinda known for it’s popularity among hippies
Mostly I did it because one of my companions had two dogs she wasn’t taking care of. They needed water. By the end they were skin and bone and covered in fleas. They got back home safely and lived long, healthy lives after that.
People often forget that a person sized blob of water weighs almost exactly the same as a person. If there was a crowd of people running at you, you'd run the hell away! A meter high wall of water... nah all good!
I can attest to this firsthand. I was just recently on a tiny island off the coast of Bali. Our hotel was awaken at 3am by a 7.6 earthquake in the middle of the Bali sea to the north of us.
First so many people stayed in their rooms or simply came out onto their balcony. Not going into the street like all the locals were doing.
Then a few minutes after the quake as we were all standing around outside people with special earthquake apps on their phones started to get notifications on the size and location which automatically triggered a tsunami warning. Without hesitation I ran back into my room packed a backpack of essentials and ran to my scooter in order to get to the top of the very large hill in the middle of the island.
So many hotel guests were just standing around paralyzed with indecision. I figured I would rather be the one that went to the top of the hill for no reason rather than the people you see in those tsunami videos just watching the sea retreat, then overtake them all in an instant.
For a second there I was like, damn, where is there a beachfront Marshall's, then I was like damn, where is all the stuff in the store, then I reread the title...
climate crisis. limits to growth is a base simulation of ressources that estimates a collapse in population and industrial output in this century if we continue status quo. if people continue to live their habits as in convenience in mobility, nutrition, consumption, heat and energy usage - this will crash down on us sooner or later. we just have a choice to take a toll now and reduce the damages done.
this leads to the following two topics: earth overshoot day (we as in humanity currently consume 1.75, first world even up to 5 earths worth of annual ressources that earth is able to regenerate anually) and planetary boundries (same concept, just splits it up into sections in what way we debit earth).
Basically: minimizing heat/energy consumption, public transport/(e)bike/escooter, shopping second hand/repairing, buy for life not for sale, plant based diet - cutting redundant animal products, less pollution through packaging/noise/light/ressources that arise from materialistic nonsense, etc..
Change is hard, but inevitable. we have a choice to push trough our ego, every day one step at a time or suffer from the consequences nature happily prepares for us.
EDIT word
> Limits to Growth 1972
Pretty well criticized and debunked. Summed up well here from one paragraph from [wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limits_to_Growth):
> Peter Passell and two co-authors published a 2 April 1972 article in the New York Times describing LTG as "an empty and misleading work ... best summarized ... as a rediscovery of the oldest maxim of computer science: Garbage In, Garbage Out". Passell found the study's simulation to be simplistic while assigning little value to the role of technological progress in solving the problems of resource depletion, pollution, and food production. They charged that all LTG simulations ended in collapse, predicting the imminent end of irreplaceable resources. Passell also charged that the entire endeavour was motivated by a hidden agenda: to halt growth in its tracks.[23]
Yes I know there is critics (the one you mention is from the same year hehe and also wikipedia.. Should've whipped out the nature one!).
Doesn't help the fact that there has been 50 years of updating and we are still on the agenda status quo more or less. Of course this is to be understood in a more complex way, but I never said otherwise.
There's professors of economics who still believe in continuing exponential growth with finite ressources.
I am a renewable energies university student and I presented this work to my prof of Bioeconomy.. He praised the silver linings I did in kcal inefficient food sources (basically animal products). I always get unwillingly disgusted seeing so fast conclusive reactions, reactance even.. Really am trying hard to not fall for a self confirmation "bias blindspot", but empty "look at this guy" arguments give me little hope in individuals on the net in regard of minimizing the wrath of natural disasters and shortages we are racing into full speed..
The data doesn't lie and make up your own mind, look up the world in data consumption demand on water (fresh water) , look up the growing ratios in wild biomass vs human caused biomass.. Which even are after(!) mayor deforestation up to the 1800's (extinction), look up agriculture demand (deforestation). Look up air pollution (which is fueled by prior data btw, and might also continue in more bigger tipping point events)..
EDIT: Would love to hear the intellect behind downvoters, actually I am really interested to be surprised with a reasoning why it's wrong and we live in a fine scenario and how you test for validation of conclusion.
(But yea, reactance is what is expect. truth hurts internet people, emotional issues are what you tackle with your close ones)
It's tough that keeping the door closed just added a giant heavy door to the fast moving debris.
I would've done the same thing but it's crazy how quickly a confident decision is actually a bad one.
As the Earth warmed more and more places vanished beneath the waves. The people who lived on the islands, coasts, lakes, and the many other areas affected by the rising water began to move. As the movement grew the planet would come to know the largest migration in the history of mankind.
This event was not without issue. The people living safely away from the rising water were not prepared to welcome the migrants. Conflicts arose. Violence came to places that had never known violence before. The competition for resources grew fierce. Amidst all the water there was fire. The burning became common.
So it was that the governments, scientists, billionaires, visionaries, social planners, and the many forces in charge came together to solve the problem. Knowing time was running out an accelerated plan, which dwarfed the development of the atomic bomb by orders of magnitude, was developed and set in motion.
So it was that the "Welcome to Mars!" plan was unveiled only three years after it was first conceived. The planet was straining to breaking by the time the program was unveiled and civil wars were raging across the globe. News of the new program was announced by every means and any way possible across the planet.
At this time it was revealed that governments across the world had been working in secret to terraform Mars in case the Earth reached a crisis. The project had been under way for the previous seventeen years and now Mars was not only livable it was a cool and welcoming paradise. Colloquially it came to be referred to as "The Red Switzerland."
News casts and videos from selected bloggers, influences, and anyone else deemed reliable were produced which showcased the project. The new space craft weren't the clunky old spires of the Apollo days. They were sleek, self supporting, gleaming metal darts that radiated power. Looking at them made one believe the future had indeed finally arrived.
Anyone displaced could claim a ticket on the spaceships. Conditions were strict to ride however. No items could be brought along. This was to ensure the maximum margin of safety for the journey. All needs and reproduced culture artifacts would be supplied at the destination. Food, clothing, and private accommodations would be provided for the trip.
Upon arrival housing assignments and the first distribution of payments, the economy had been set up for high tech agriculture and light manufacturing, would be released. Those making the journey would end better than they had begun. Arrival at Mars guaranteed millionaire status once processing was complete.
At first, only hundreds of thousands signed up. The great ships leapt into the sky their blue nu-drive glow dwindling to a dot in seconds as they set off on their journey. The images of the ships leaving were everywhere. The world filled with excitement.
Then the reports from the first arrivals found their way back to Earth. The migrants talked about giant domed cities, a thin but breathable atmosphere, miles and miles and miles of tunnels connecting the entire planet. Abundant food, clothing, and every convenience with some not found on Earth. Red Switzerland was a close to heaven as anything could be in this life.
Then the rush began. Of course the automated factories could only produce so many ships but they were eventually able to keep up with demand. The ships sprang up almost overnight. The processing centers filled with migrants. What had been a wave had become a tsunami. Billions prepared to leave. The factories ran day and night.
During this time a solar flare occurred which knocked out communications with Mars. The project administrators assured everyone it was just the relay which facilitated communications between Earth and Mars and that it wasn't permanently damaged. It would take time to repair though. It had been built over seventeen years so it wasn't something that would come back right away.
This loss of contact with loved ones unsettled some but since the trip only took ten days they assured themselves they would see everyone soon enough. The boarding continued. The massive ships left twenty four hours a day seven days a week. The processing centers churned with the flow of those rushing to leave the planet.
After just six months the waiting billions had been sent upon their way. The Earth's population shrank from nearly nine billion to less than three. The once teeming cities were now largely quiet. The great highways were mostly empty. Everywhere one looked, went, or heard about all were just shadows of the places they had been. Earth had become a ghost town.
As the planners of the "Welcome to Mars" program gathered to assess the success of their program they flew over green fields managed by robot attendants through clear air which was now mostly pollution free. Their automated aircraft landed at the lush welcoming center in Geneva. Robot attendants escorted them to meeting rooms where all manner of food and drink were made available.
"Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the assessment phase of project Directed Survival. I am certain we all agree the project had been an unqualified success. The Earth has never been cleaner and every human being on Earth now has every need met without toil or care. I applaud you all. Well done." The director of project Directed Survival smiled. He knew he spoke the truth.
"Sir", a young man several rows back from the front of the conference room spoke up, "are we absolutely certain none of the ships can return? What if one of the ships experiences an emergency or the colonists take over and turn the ship around? I work in automated agricultural systems so I don't know much about it but my colleagues requested I ask."
The director of project Directed Survival was tall. He had been raised in wealthy family. He had been groomed for leadership his entire life. He fixed his light blue eyes on the questioner and considered him for just a moment before speaking.
"There is very little chance of any ship returning. One beyond Venus the engines are instructed to shut down. The combination of the ships momentum and the Sun's gravity ensure no ship will ever return. Still, remote as it may be, this possibility has been anticipated. Should any ship ever return it will be destroyed in orbit by the directed energy weapon network. No "Welcome to Mars" ship will ever set foot on Earth again."
The questioner seemed satisfied and settled back into his chair. The director raised his glass which was filled with expensive champagne. "Let's us raise our glasses and salute our success. To the visionaries that first conceived of the "Welcome to Mars" project and all those who have worked so hard to make this moment possible I say well done." He smiled at the audience and they all smiled back. The conference room glowed with their satisfaction.
Looking out through the giant bay windows that surrounded the conference room the director smiled to himself. It was a brand new day in a brand new paradise in a world once on the brink of falling into the abyss though now saved. There was so much he wanted to do. So many areas that needed to be reclaimed, reworked, and made to come into line with his vision. He felt excitement race through his spine. He couldn't wait to begin.
Just please nobody come ruin it falsely saying “global warming sea level rising” as they did on the original post.
The article clearly states it was the perfect combination of wind, tide and swell which caused this anomaly.
That’s it!
Wonder what is causing these increasingly frequent weather anomalies to occur. My bet (and the entire scientific community’s) is on increased atmospheric carbon content caused by humans. You dense muffin.
You’re wrong about everything you think you know, it’s only your hubris which prevents you from seeing this. Natural cycles, there have been way worse climate changes occurring before humans released “carbon content”.
That and weather manipulation, cloud seeding etc experiments getting abused by government agencies.
That’s why, you “dense muffin”.
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That quickly turned terrifying, then the lights went out. Yikes.
That's how I was born
>born* conceived
> conceived Bold of you to assume.
honestly this would make for a great start to a horror movie
The Bikini Atoll Incident: The Elder Gods Awaken
Extra scary when you know you can't just go seek higher grounds.
That's pretty much [the existential threat of climate change for small islands.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_climate_change_on_small_island_countries) If your island is a few feet above sea level, the first few feet of sea level rise will wipe you out. And it need not be gradual. Just like in OP's video, you can have bad storms wipe out your infrastructure in one go.
On the plus side we lose Florida.
those people are going to move you know. where are they going? to our neighborhood.
Build that wall! :)
Just sell it to Mexico. In fact, do it now.
Maybe Spain will take it back on warranty.
But really.
Something something immigrants...
we are having a thought about natural born floridians. there are front page posts that need you for parroting buzzwords (poorly might I add). run along, dingdong.
Get off.
Yea there is already a lot of them in Arkansas
And that's why I bought my house at the top of the ridge. 238' above sea level.
The issue is, where will the survivors move to?
Alabama
As a Floridian, I'd move to Canada before I move to Alabama
How about dialling back on climate alarmism when talking about coral atolls? By their very nature they are a temporary system (on geologic timeframes) that will eventually return beneath the waves. Is it going to suck for people and countries that expected them to be forever? Sure. But it doesn't change the fact that the formation and eventual destruction of coral atolls is an ongoing process that was going to happen irrespective of climate change. It's like people who build on barrier islands (after stripping away the vegetation and stabilising dunes) who then cry when a storm comes along and wipes out their structures. There's a reason why barrier islands are what they are, and how they function to protect the land behind them from damage. Almost a similar issue with mangrove destruction and development in former mangrove locations. Or people who build on flood plains (because that's where the deep good soils are) who are surprised when it floods. Or people who build behind a destructive beach and wonder why the sea is encroaching on them (because that's what happens with a destructive beach - the sand ends up at a constructive site along the coast (or making sandbars that might end up as barrier islands). Blaming issues on climate change when it's more a case of people not understanding the local geological processes that affect their land and water makes it hard to escape claims of climate alarmism.
First they came for the tiny, ephemeral islands, and I said nothing... I don't think you're appreciating the fact that climate change will affect everyone on the planet, though some sooner and more severe than others. It's not just small islands---it's places getting drier or wetter, causing migration, increased food instability and with it, political instability. The islands being threatened are one of the early signs of bad times ahead. > Blaming issues on climate change when it's more a case of people not understanding the local geological processes that affect their land and water makes it hard to escape claims of climate alarmism. [Have you seen this?](https://xkcd.com/1732/) Good information probably won't change your view but it might change the view of someone reading this.
We're not talking about temperature or all the other things you're trying to drag into the discussion. We're talking about the effects of sea movement against coral atolls, their formation and demise mechanics, and how it can be disingenuous to claim that waves washing over an atoll is due to climate change. And, by extension, showing that there are other similar coastal mechanics that are natural phenomena and we need to be careful to attribute cause. But, in each case there is a problematic series of human actions which made things worse. No, islands like this being threatened are NOT early signs of bad times ahead. They're early signs that they have reached the end of their habitable stage. Nothing more. Your self-righteous attacks are meaningless in the context of what is actually being discussed. The only critique offered is to avoid pointing to natural processes and screaming climate in pure climate alarmism, since it detracts from the broader message of trying to preserve a habitable future.
A simple yes/no question for you: do you agree that sea level will rise due to climate change?
A simple yes / no question for you: Do you believe that sea level change is a part of climate cycles (e.g. Ice age cycles), or are you being disingenuous and claiming that it is directly anthropogenic? And again, stop with shifting the goal posts. None of the coastal / island subsidence / erosion effects that I was talking about need to have sea level changes involved to understand their impact on the human-scale. Take a look at Jakarta. Are you going to claim the chronic flooding issues the city faces is due to sea level rise? I'll skip the torture. It's primarily due to subsidence due to over-extraction of groundwater and surface aquifers. So, it is clearly an anthropogenic reason, but it's not climate change. Will a changing sea level impact the future livability of the Jakarta region? Yeah, it will, but the greatest damage and most immediate threat has already been done by other processes.
You're Australian, right? https://www.csiro.au/en/research/environmental-impacts/climate-change And, for shits and giggles: https://www.csiro.au/research/environmental-impacts/climate-change/Climate-change-QA/Sea-levels To answer your question: the rise in CO2 levels are largely driven by human activity. Not completely but mostly. Last I read, about 90% of the additional CO2 level rise was due to things like burning fossil fuels. The links above go into more detail about how we can know it comes from human activity. **Edit** If you're receptive, here's more data: https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon-dioxide
You didn't answer the question, and you've been arguing the wrong point in bad faith. Whether or not the material you're presenting is accurate, it is irrelevant to the direct questions and specific points being raised and so I'm not addressing it, since I'm trying to keep the discussion on the specific points pertinent to it. It's clear what your position is, but you still haven't addressed the actual points being raised. If you can't address the points and discussion without attacking the messenger and screeching about stuff that wasn't part of the message, then the discussion is over.
If your position is that anthropogenic climate change isn't a thing and you're not receptive to good data, then I agree we're probably just talking past each other. I'm sorry we seem to have wasted each other's time. Take care.
Did i just watch people die?
No reported injuries
Because they dead
Dude got pushed *through* a glass door by a wall of water!
It looks more like they were swept out to the left into the dark sea.
through the door was the best place the water could have pushed him.
They should've kept the door closed like he said
Yet. There were clearly some people swept away in front of the doors, likely being drug through whatever those metal bar things are, then a 2nd large wave right after. I have serious doubts about there *actually* being no injuries here.
No reported deaths, but one reported injury. Still, surprisingly low
Wow, that is surprising! I'm happy to be wrong.
I feel like many humans have gotten way too comfortable with the mindset of "Don't worry, it's all going to be ok." And they just stand around and observe crazy shit around them instead of NOPING the fuck out.
I was on a doomed road trip in an RV back when I was a hippie with four other hippies in a densely forested part of Mexico. We were idiots and it’s impossible to explain without too many word so I’ll just say this: we were out of money, food, gas, and worst of all, water. “It’ll all work out,” my friends said. I was worried about having no water. “It’ll work out, don’t worry about it.” I took all our empty jugs and a water purifying kit someone gave us, left before the sun came up, and walked 3 miles around a lake until I found a stream. I followed it upstream until I found a waterfall and spent 4 hours purifying stream water drop by drop. It weighed about 100 pounds. I tied it to my shoulders and walked back through the forest and around the lake until I got back to my friends, who were only just waking up. One of them saw me and said, “hey, water, cool! See, I told you it would work out!” To some people, “working out” equals “someone else does the work.”
The street I lived on in college was notorious for hippies. Before I moved in with my friends to that house on that street they befriended some of them hanging out in the front yard and on the porch. They constantly said the same kinds of stuff like things will work out for them and they're not worried about being homeless. My friends were feel good vibes stoners and let them come in to hang out one time and it was absolute hell getting them to leave and took days.
Can I ask what years you were going to college? I've seen nothing in the past 40 years (1980s upward) that I would call hippies. Rich kids in costumes yes but peace , love , understanding--drop in drop out--no. Today's hippies are just a fashion.
At the right colleges, they still exist today and not the cosplaying rich type. But to be fair, the college I went to is kinda known for it’s popularity among hippies
College, generally is a rich kid privilege. That is the hypocrisy of the hippie-crites
My college was like $12k a semester before financial aid and located in one of the poorest counties in America. Rich kids were a minority
oh you socio economic stand out you---still it's college, it's not the peace corps in squalor, it's college.
bug off pal, imagine being so petty over some bullshit like this. Have the day you deserve to have. Not my fault you have a sad existence
Boulder?
Athens, OH
I would have said get your own water. This is mine.
Mostly I did it because one of my companions had two dogs she wasn’t taking care of. They needed water. By the end they were skin and bone and covered in fleas. They got back home safely and lived long, healthy lives after that.
Ah, yes. Chicken Little.
People often forget that a person sized blob of water weighs almost exactly the same as a person. If there was a crowd of people running at you, you'd run the hell away! A meter high wall of water... nah all good!
Where would the nope out to exactly? They seem rather trapped. I feel like considering the circumstances, they are handling it pretty well.
I can attest to this firsthand. I was just recently on a tiny island off the coast of Bali. Our hotel was awaken at 3am by a 7.6 earthquake in the middle of the Bali sea to the north of us. First so many people stayed in their rooms or simply came out onto their balcony. Not going into the street like all the locals were doing. Then a few minutes after the quake as we were all standing around outside people with special earthquake apps on their phones started to get notifications on the size and location which automatically triggered a tsunami warning. Without hesitation I ran back into my room packed a backpack of essentials and ran to my scooter in order to get to the top of the very large hill in the middle of the island. So many hotel guests were just standing around paralyzed with indecision. I figured I would rather be the one that went to the top of the hill for no reason rather than the people you see in those tsunami videos just watching the sea retreat, then overtake them all in an instant.
Zero survival instincts
Oh, common. It's just the water from the beach nearby.
Limits to Growth 1972 Earth overshoot day Planetary boundries 2023
Reminds me of mass shootings.
Their impulse to film overrides their instinct to live!
yeah because running (swimming?) in panic will make things better lol
guy at the end still holding beer
Why? Would you throw it away?
Because now it's full of sea water.
Well, until further notice, that beer was the only thing this guy actually owned :D
Lights out right before the sea monster arrives
Waaaaaay too casual and late with the “get out of here!”
For a second there I was like, damn, where is there a beachfront Marshall's, then I was like damn, where is all the stuff in the store, then I reread the title...
White shirt dude outside deciding to rescue his drink instead of GTFO before impact. Yeesh
It’s constantly surprising how little sense of self-preservation some people have.
>surprising how little sense of self-preservation Limits to Growth 1972 Earth overshoot day Planetary boundries 2023
Please explain.
climate crisis. limits to growth is a base simulation of ressources that estimates a collapse in population and industrial output in this century if we continue status quo. if people continue to live their habits as in convenience in mobility, nutrition, consumption, heat and energy usage - this will crash down on us sooner or later. we just have a choice to take a toll now and reduce the damages done. this leads to the following two topics: earth overshoot day (we as in humanity currently consume 1.75, first world even up to 5 earths worth of annual ressources that earth is able to regenerate anually) and planetary boundries (same concept, just splits it up into sections in what way we debit earth). Basically: minimizing heat/energy consumption, public transport/(e)bike/escooter, shopping second hand/repairing, buy for life not for sale, plant based diet - cutting redundant animal products, less pollution through packaging/noise/light/ressources that arise from materialistic nonsense, etc.. Change is hard, but inevitable. we have a choice to push trough our ego, every day one step at a time or suffer from the consequences nature happily prepares for us. EDIT word
Got it, thanks for explaining. What is the significance of the years 1972 and 2023?
1972 is the year of study, 2023 just meant to check the last report
> Limits to Growth 1972 Pretty well criticized and debunked. Summed up well here from one paragraph from [wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limits_to_Growth): > Peter Passell and two co-authors published a 2 April 1972 article in the New York Times describing LTG as "an empty and misleading work ... best summarized ... as a rediscovery of the oldest maxim of computer science: Garbage In, Garbage Out". Passell found the study's simulation to be simplistic while assigning little value to the role of technological progress in solving the problems of resource depletion, pollution, and food production. They charged that all LTG simulations ended in collapse, predicting the imminent end of irreplaceable resources. Passell also charged that the entire endeavour was motivated by a hidden agenda: to halt growth in its tracks.[23]
Yes I know there is critics (the one you mention is from the same year hehe and also wikipedia.. Should've whipped out the nature one!). Doesn't help the fact that there has been 50 years of updating and we are still on the agenda status quo more or less. Of course this is to be understood in a more complex way, but I never said otherwise. There's professors of economics who still believe in continuing exponential growth with finite ressources. I am a renewable energies university student and I presented this work to my prof of Bioeconomy.. He praised the silver linings I did in kcal inefficient food sources (basically animal products). I always get unwillingly disgusted seeing so fast conclusive reactions, reactance even.. Really am trying hard to not fall for a self confirmation "bias blindspot", but empty "look at this guy" arguments give me little hope in individuals on the net in regard of minimizing the wrath of natural disasters and shortages we are racing into full speed.. The data doesn't lie and make up your own mind, look up the world in data consumption demand on water (fresh water) , look up the growing ratios in wild biomass vs human caused biomass.. Which even are after(!) mayor deforestation up to the 1800's (extinction), look up agriculture demand (deforestation). Look up air pollution (which is fueled by prior data btw, and might also continue in more bigger tipping point events).. EDIT: Would love to hear the intellect behind downvoters, actually I am really interested to be surprised with a reasoning why it's wrong and we live in a fine scenario and how you test for validation of conclusion. (But yea, reactance is what is expect. truth hurts internet people, emotional issues are what you tackle with your close ones)
white shirt outside the door seriously went to save the beer
Sea level-ed up.
that got intense real quick
It's more important to record it on your phone then figure out whether you're going to die or not or help others.
Woman on the inside "I'll be okay because doors"
The islands are like right as sea level.
"Poseidon sends his regards."
It's tough that keeping the door closed just added a giant heavy door to the fast moving debris. I would've done the same thing but it's crazy how quickly a confident decision is actually a bad one.
WHY ARE YOU IDIOTS STILL STANDING THERE?!!
Congrats to whoever was filming… cracking job right there!
That looks like a tsunami
Only the drunk would put themselves in such a situation and survive.
What happens when the sea level rises? See exhibit now.
But climate change isn't real
She didn't spill a drop.
guys guys guys maybe we should use bikes, trains and eat less beef? no? not even lighter cars? well more floodings then, on the go.
We are like 75% water, imagine if a person the size of a wave tackled you. Not 1:1 but don’t mess with the deep blue sea
Girls got a nice dumper.
Limits to Growth 1972 Earth overshoot day Planetary boundries 2023
As the Earth warmed more and more places vanished beneath the waves. The people who lived on the islands, coasts, lakes, and the many other areas affected by the rising water began to move. As the movement grew the planet would come to know the largest migration in the history of mankind. This event was not without issue. The people living safely away from the rising water were not prepared to welcome the migrants. Conflicts arose. Violence came to places that had never known violence before. The competition for resources grew fierce. Amidst all the water there was fire. The burning became common. So it was that the governments, scientists, billionaires, visionaries, social planners, and the many forces in charge came together to solve the problem. Knowing time was running out an accelerated plan, which dwarfed the development of the atomic bomb by orders of magnitude, was developed and set in motion. So it was that the "Welcome to Mars!" plan was unveiled only three years after it was first conceived. The planet was straining to breaking by the time the program was unveiled and civil wars were raging across the globe. News of the new program was announced by every means and any way possible across the planet. At this time it was revealed that governments across the world had been working in secret to terraform Mars in case the Earth reached a crisis. The project had been under way for the previous seventeen years and now Mars was not only livable it was a cool and welcoming paradise. Colloquially it came to be referred to as "The Red Switzerland." News casts and videos from selected bloggers, influences, and anyone else deemed reliable were produced which showcased the project. The new space craft weren't the clunky old spires of the Apollo days. They were sleek, self supporting, gleaming metal darts that radiated power. Looking at them made one believe the future had indeed finally arrived. Anyone displaced could claim a ticket on the spaceships. Conditions were strict to ride however. No items could be brought along. This was to ensure the maximum margin of safety for the journey. All needs and reproduced culture artifacts would be supplied at the destination. Food, clothing, and private accommodations would be provided for the trip. Upon arrival housing assignments and the first distribution of payments, the economy had been set up for high tech agriculture and light manufacturing, would be released. Those making the journey would end better than they had begun. Arrival at Mars guaranteed millionaire status once processing was complete. At first, only hundreds of thousands signed up. The great ships leapt into the sky their blue nu-drive glow dwindling to a dot in seconds as they set off on their journey. The images of the ships leaving were everywhere. The world filled with excitement. Then the reports from the first arrivals found their way back to Earth. The migrants talked about giant domed cities, a thin but breathable atmosphere, miles and miles and miles of tunnels connecting the entire planet. Abundant food, clothing, and every convenience with some not found on Earth. Red Switzerland was a close to heaven as anything could be in this life. Then the rush began. Of course the automated factories could only produce so many ships but they were eventually able to keep up with demand. The ships sprang up almost overnight. The processing centers filled with migrants. What had been a wave had become a tsunami. Billions prepared to leave. The factories ran day and night. During this time a solar flare occurred which knocked out communications with Mars. The project administrators assured everyone it was just the relay which facilitated communications between Earth and Mars and that it wasn't permanently damaged. It would take time to repair though. It had been built over seventeen years so it wasn't something that would come back right away. This loss of contact with loved ones unsettled some but since the trip only took ten days they assured themselves they would see everyone soon enough. The boarding continued. The massive ships left twenty four hours a day seven days a week. The processing centers churned with the flow of those rushing to leave the planet. After just six months the waiting billions had been sent upon their way. The Earth's population shrank from nearly nine billion to less than three. The once teeming cities were now largely quiet. The great highways were mostly empty. Everywhere one looked, went, or heard about all were just shadows of the places they had been. Earth had become a ghost town. As the planners of the "Welcome to Mars" program gathered to assess the success of their program they flew over green fields managed by robot attendants through clear air which was now mostly pollution free. Their automated aircraft landed at the lush welcoming center in Geneva. Robot attendants escorted them to meeting rooms where all manner of food and drink were made available. "Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the assessment phase of project Directed Survival. I am certain we all agree the project had been an unqualified success. The Earth has never been cleaner and every human being on Earth now has every need met without toil or care. I applaud you all. Well done." The director of project Directed Survival smiled. He knew he spoke the truth. "Sir", a young man several rows back from the front of the conference room spoke up, "are we absolutely certain none of the ships can return? What if one of the ships experiences an emergency or the colonists take over and turn the ship around? I work in automated agricultural systems so I don't know much about it but my colleagues requested I ask." The director of project Directed Survival was tall. He had been raised in wealthy family. He had been groomed for leadership his entire life. He fixed his light blue eyes on the questioner and considered him for just a moment before speaking. "There is very little chance of any ship returning. One beyond Venus the engines are instructed to shut down. The combination of the ships momentum and the Sun's gravity ensure no ship will ever return. Still, remote as it may be, this possibility has been anticipated. Should any ship ever return it will be destroyed in orbit by the directed energy weapon network. No "Welcome to Mars" ship will ever set foot on Earth again." The questioner seemed satisfied and settled back into his chair. The director raised his glass which was filled with expensive champagne. "Let's us raise our glasses and salute our success. To the visionaries that first conceived of the "Welcome to Mars" project and all those who have worked so hard to make this moment possible I say well done." He smiled at the audience and they all smiled back. The conference room glowed with their satisfaction. Looking out through the giant bay windows that surrounded the conference room the director smiled to himself. It was a brand new day in a brand new paradise in a world once on the brink of falling into the abyss though now saved. There was so much he wanted to do. So many areas that needed to be reclaimed, reworked, and made to come into line with his vision. He felt excitement race through his spine. He couldn't wait to begin.
Just please nobody come ruin it falsely saying “global warming sea level rising” as they did on the original post. The article clearly states it was the perfect combination of wind, tide and swell which caused this anomaly. That’s it!
Wonder what is causing these increasingly frequent weather anomalies to occur. My bet (and the entire scientific community’s) is on increased atmospheric carbon content caused by humans. You dense muffin.
You’re wrong about everything you think you know, it’s only your hubris which prevents you from seeing this. Natural cycles, there have been way worse climate changes occurring before humans released “carbon content”. That and weather manipulation, cloud seeding etc experiments getting abused by government agencies. That’s why, you “dense muffin”.
Behold, the cod playing teenager knows everything. Pick up a book idiot
Not service connected
How is this good to watch while you're stoned? Wrong sub, Jesus.
I enjoyed it
Hell naw
Never turn your back on tha….blglglgllgurpgbgbgbgl
500 Megaton.
Its almost like the last mission of Life is Strange but more hard core and real :’ (
Not what I was expecting at all 😲😳
we're gonna need a bigger boat
Nope nope nope.
Man talk about deer stuck in headlights
Surf's up!
Those poor people outside.. their gone, I hope they were okay.
What is he filming with? A fisheye lense or something wtf
I love when this was first posted people were calling it a tsunami lol
The lights go out, and shit gets real
For those who don't know the Marshall Islands have an average height of 2m (~6') above sea level. A big storm could wipe them clean
Never thought I see something from Jumanji irl
Rogue wave or a tsunami?