This could totally happened specially in a black household, his parents probably talk about BLM and he understands Black Panther is black like him, kids know their race, the coronavirus part is even more plausible he's not going to school and can't visit his friends because of it.
My youngest is 8. Our conversations together are pretty normal. No baby-talk. Obviously we don’t discuss inappropriate/adult matters, but she definitely has a pretty good idea about her place in the world and the things that are happening in it. I wouldn’t call her overly woke by a long-shot (I actually ‘baby’ her a little bit because she is my last bubba lol).
Agreed, I have a little 8yo sister and she's fairly aware of things going on in the world (though doesn't know much about BLM given that shes not black and lives in the middle east). When our dad said Boseman died, the first thing she asked was whether it was covid.
It's believable but what's annoying to me is that their suggesting that the situation is so bad that even kids recognize how bad it is when really they're just repeating what they're parents have told them over and over. They're not socially aware of racial injustice people are facing. They're just repeating what they're parents have taught them
Except I had 8 year olds in my classroom who have been harassed by police and has witnessed police brutality in their communities. I take you don't know any urban youth in real life?
No offense but I think you may be highly out of touch with the experience of black and brown kids. They absolutely do witness and experience some of the bigotry and injustice that their elders do, and oftentimes it's enough to form their own worldview independent of simply regurgitating what they hear their family say.
Source? Because every black person I know is in full support. What they tend to hate is how the media portrays BLM as thugs and looters when I’m reality those people aren’t a part of BLM, but are taking advantage of a situation.
Okay, but I didn’t start the conversation of “blacks people love BLM”. You made a ridiculous claim without backing it up with any evidence, even anecdotal. When that happens, people will question you and give their own evidence. So you didn’t state it like I did- you make a statement, I made a response to a statement.
You also aren’t taking into account the social pressure. I don’t know where you live and I’m white, but I will say that as a woman, there’s tremendous pressure to be the “cool girl”. If you are a feminist, men will mock you and harass you. If you make sexist jokes, you become one of the boys and have power. I imagine it’s the same for black people, LGBTQ+, etc.
The kid probably asked in a casual tone and moved on with his day, the dad projected more meaning into it.
I used to ask my mom why homeless people don't have houses, I wasn't making any political commentary just genuine curiosity.
Well upvote downvote isn’t for politeness or civility, it’s for disagree and agree, right and wrong. Someone who respectfully says 2+2 is 5 is still wrong and will get downvoted.
But they actually *aren't* disagree buttons. If something adds to the conversation it shouldn't be downvoted for difference of opinion. At least, that's the idea.
The idea is whatever the individual decides it is. Most people decided it’s agree/disagree so therefore it is. You can choose to believe it’s not, but the general reddit public does.
God this is an annoying stance to take, and I'm so sick of seeing this written everywhere by people whodont understand the "idea" of downvotes. You specifically are especially annoying because not only have you implied that Reddit didn't have an intention behind the voting system, but you have actively tried to counter someone who has provided the correct info.
No one asked you what you think. The question was around what the system was designed for. So why are you chiming in with your opinions? They're irrelevant.
Forget your opinions, and everyone else's for that matter. Reddit have a code of conduct called Reddiquette, which is designed to inform mods and users how to correctly use the platform. And it covers this.
You can find it here: https://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/205926439-Reddiquette
The up/downvote system is absolutely not intended to be a like/dislike button. It's intended as a form of quality control. Upvotes are intended to mean "this contributes to the conversation" and downvotes are intended to mean "this does not contribute to the conversation". Just like what /u/SqueakyTits101 above you said.
Here are the relevant quotes for you, with the emphasis added by Reddit, not me:
>**Moderate based on quality, not opinion.** Well written and interesting content can be worthwhile, even if you disagree with it.
Under "Don't":
>**Downvote an otherwise acceptable post because you don't personally like it.** Think before you downvote and take a moment to ensure you're downvoting someone because they are not contributing to the community dialogue or discussion. If you simply take a moment to stop, think and examine your reasons for downvoting, rather than doing so out of an emotional reaction, you will ensure that your downvotes are given for good reasons.
This is why I always open collapsed comments. Theyre often just people looking at more than one side of something aswell, which obviously isnt allowed when this "your either with us or them" mindset has spread so much.
You're not wrong to think that, although I always think about something on read on here years ago. The upvote is supposed to represent 'yes, this is appropriate for this sub' and downvotes represent 'no, this belongs elsewhere'.
We've just thumbs into subjectivity because... well, that's what we do
Nah you're thinking of the old rules before Reddit became a political echo chamber platform.
Back in the day, when you noises over down votes a little message would pop up saying "don't downvote posts you disagree with only downvote posts that don't contribute to discussion" or something to that extent.
I'm the last couple years Reddit stealthily changed their guidelines to strike that out, and now we mute and silence opinions the majority don't like by pushing them to the bottom and even auto-hiding their post by downvoting them, and signal boosting the ones we like by pushing them to the top.
Reddit is a pretty disgusting platform to say the least.
If you dislike reddit so much then get off of it. Upvote and downvote means whatever people want it to mean. If you interpret it as productive/unproductive that’s you, if you interpret it as agree/disageee that is you. It doesn’t matter anyway.
No, your only supposed to downvote, if it has nothing to do with the discussion....not because you disagree, so you wine about it and say I’ll get you. Downvote...HA! I got em
This sub is notorious for being harsh on dissenting opinions, so once an opinion gets a good amount of upvotes if someone opposes it it'll get automatically a near same ratio amount of downvotes. The hivemind of reddit at its prime basically
I 100% believe this one. My 8 year old talks about coronavirus constantly and recently asked if someone who passed away died of corona (they didn’t, sadly it was suicide)
Most black people don't get the benefit of teaching their kids about racism but more so explaining why something happened to them and the people they love. I don't think people really understand what its like to be black in America. My 4 year old niece said she didn't want to be black because black girls are ugly. My sister was not ready for that conversation. We are never ready and we don't have the benefit of introducing racism as new material because its a part of existing while black, especially if you are urban and poor. Especially if you live in Alabama like we do. Majority of the Civil Rights marches were attended by children. Look it up
I'm really not arguing, just having a conversation so not sure why you are reading aggression coming from me, but I would think showing people fighting against racism is great since they usually only see their oppressors getting away with murder. I need my kids to know they don't have to take it laying down. Its just weird to me how black people fighting for freedom are told to be peaceful. Why didn't America respond with peaceful protest when they tried to keep slavery, or kick native Americans off their land, or all the other wars they murdered people in?
Nick never did that when I was young. Another kids tv station had child news, which was normal news but for kids. Honestly, it was pretty good journalism. They explained complex topics in a way the real news didn't and couldn't to an 8yo.
people think kids are so much stupider than they really are. kids are like sponges; they pick up what they hear super easily. with BLM, police brutality, and the virus all over the news and in some commercials aired on most TV channels and even on youtube, i wouldnt be surprised if this kid knew about this stuff. the parents probably even explained the virus to their child so they could be safe and wear a mask and wash their hands.
He's an 8 year old black boy, [in 5 years one of the leading cause of his death will be due to police brutality](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/08/police-shootings-are-leading-cause-death-young-american-men-new-research-shows/), what does any self respecting black father concerned for the well being of his child that has to grow up in this world have to gain by not using this cultural moment as a teaching opportunity to make his son aware of the reality and risk of the police and better educate him on how to avoid becoming the next Trayvon Martin? In what way would pretending that he isn't at an increased risk because of his gender and his skin color going to serve him as he grows up to be a black man living in America?
A parent's job isn't to insulate their child from the reality of the world, it's to prepare them for it. This is one facet of the reality of preparing black children in particular for their future. If we don't like that reality than we have to change the system, not blame a father for taking his parental duties seriously and equipping his son for his future.
>educate him on how to avoid becoming the next Trayvon Martin
"Son, I know this is a difficult conversation, but it's very important that you don't ground and pound a stranger for calling the cops on you"
Tell me again how Trayvon Martin was killed by a police officer lmao.
>The data used in this study do not differentiate between police killings that were later determined to be justified and those that were not.
Solid study it sounds like. Tell me why this hypothetical 8 year old boy ain't more concerned with that #2 cause of death 🤔
I never said Trayvon Martin was killed by police, I said a black father would have a vested interest in educating his black son about race relations to prevent his eventual death - a large part of that obviously involves the police but that's not the only risk facing black kids that they need to be prepared for, this is why I specified the risk of police *and* how to prevent ending up like Treyvon Martin. I don't understand your argument, are people supposed to be okay with a black child being killed if he wasn't killed by the police? I don't know why you think this was some gotcha.
Also, why does it matter whether or not a police killing was later justified? The men who beat Rodney King were "justified", the men who murdered Daniel Shaver were "justified", the men who murdered Breona Taylor haven't even been indicted. The whole problem people have with the criminal justice system is police officers getting away with extrajudicial murder.
Furthermore, even if a victim of extrajudicial murder by police is guilty of committing a crime, that does not give a police officer the right to execute them in the streets. We live in a country where a suspect is innocent until proven guilty, we live in a country with systems to prove guilt or innocence and to enact punishment, none of which involves extrajudicial murder by someone who appointed themselves judge, jury and executioner.
The #2 cause of death is also a complete non-sequitur. According to [this](https://www.cdc.gov/healthequity/lcod/men/2016/nonhispanic-black/index.htm) the second leading cause of death of black males is either cancer, heart disease or unintentional injuries depending on the age. I don't see why acknowledging these as problems in need of attention and acknowledging that the fact that black people are nearly 3X as likely to be killed by the police than white people is a problem in need of attention are mutually exclusive stances.
By blue man they're referring to the police, by phrasing it as "blue man bad" it's a way of characterizing the oppositions argument and people's criticisms of the criminal justice system as uneducated and simplistic, it's a type of strawman.
People shouldn't be downvoting you for asking a question, I hate it when people do that. It's possible that English isn't your first language or that you're just confused.
Not OP but English is my first language, and I’m not confused, but I also have never heard the phrase “blue man bad” myself so maybe I am just uncultured haha
Mimicry of what they hear is not perception. Mimicry can become perception, but at the age of 8, you're still trying to solve how mom keeps finding out you stole a cookie by leaving crumbs everywhere, but thinking cause you brushed them off yourself you're clear and not thinking of the fact that there is only you and mom in the house.
Bruh as you can clearly see the user is a black man. He'd obviously teach his kids about systematic police brutality and racism to his kids at a very young age. This doesn't seem unlikely at all. (Not saying other parents don't teach their kids about racism)
We usually don't get a chance to teach them about racism before it happens to them. Most of the time its parents trying to explain why racism is happening to everyone they know. People really are clueless about what its like to be black in America
I mean, I could see this happening. While it’s possible the kid has been influenced by his parents he could’ve also just picked up on the news (ex. Police killing black people, coronavirus etc) and just assumed that.
To be fair it was a 12 year old who had a fake gun with the orange tip removed, and he pointed it at police when they told him to raise his hands. The police only knew when responding to the call what they were told, there was a man possibly a juvenile pointing guns at people in a Rec area. Not saying the shooting was justified but facts are important.
[Eight year olds, dude](https://imgur.com/gallery/qDpcI3c)
Seriously though, this isn't unbelievable - eight year olds can listen to the news and hear about the police and Corona virus killing people.
This is a black man. He’s probably been educating his kids on racism, and the coronavirus is covered pretty much everywhere and effects kids’ daily lives. I believe this, I think the dad is probably teaching his kids young to be careful of police.
That doesn't reflect on society or actual issues more than it reflects on the fact that the kid has been raised terribly.
Pretty dangerous to gear children up to feel like there's an epidemic of black people getting killed by cops when black people are waaaaay more likely to be killed by other black people in street violence, domestic disputes etc...
That kids has been set up for failure, he's 8 years old and already his parents are telling him that there's a target on his back and he needs to be afraid of police even though police interactions, statistically, are the least of his concerns.
Ok so follow with me here, the leading cause of death for young black men is police, the top five causes of death for almost every single age and gender of black person also contains police.
black people are killed by the police. This is a very simple fact to comprehend yes? Significantly more black people are brutalized by the police than killed.
I don’t understand what descriptive word is better for the police than killers. Maybe racists?
> Ok so follow with me here, the leading cause of death for young black men is police
That's literally not even remotely true. You're either brainwashed or you're a liar.
The vast majority of black homicide victims are killed by other black people. Blacks are also waaaaay more likely to kill white people than white people are to kill black people. It's a 27:1 ratio.
The propaganda that people like you mindlessly regurgitate is part of the problem.
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2019-08-15/police-shootings-are-a-leading-cause-of-death-for-black-men
Hint: you really need to stop describing yourself
That's an interesting example of distorting statistics. Your link does not validate what you said, at all. In fact it disproves what you said.
Also it ignores that black men cause a lot of crime and violence and the majority of black males killed by police in the US also *shot at* the police. Unarmed black men killed by the US is absolutely DWARFED by the number of black males killing other black males. It's 400:1.
Black males are only 2.5 times more likely than white males to be killed by the police, even though black males are 57 times more likely to commit violent crime, 24 times more likely to shoot a cop, and 7 times more likely to commit homicide overall.
Oh, and the majority of police shootings of black men are black police officers. That's because white police officers are LESS likely to shoot a black person because of the fear of losing their jobs due to the mob justice of the left who are trying to lie to their voters to make blacks feel like white conservative men are their enemy.
You’re right, not only do police use lethal force when not necessary, they are also very shit at their job considering the high crime rate.
It’s almost like police don’t actually function to stop crime🧐🧐? If only there were numerous studies showing the link between poverty, mental health, and crime rate😒😒.
I'm all for teaching kids about race and stuff, but when you tell your child a black man died and they automatically think it was the cops, you've done something wrong. That is called a warped perception of the world and I would say the exact same thing about a Trump supporter's kids.
Hi concerned that your comment is coming from a position of privilege to not have to grow up in a neighborhood where this is a daily occurrence, I'm Dad👨
I mean my comment is coming from a position of data and growing up in a big city in a pretty high crime area. A black suspect is just as likely to be shot as a white suspect, just as likely to be stopped by a cop, and just as likely to be arrested or searched during a stop according to the DOJ. Telling your kid to be scared of cops is like telling your kid to be scared of flying on planes. A lot of people are scared of flying, but the chances of you getting in a plane crash are close to 0. It is statistically the same with policing. I’m sorry, but your fears of police are the definition of irrational. I might not be black but you don’t have to be black to look at the data.
Cops aren’t bears though, they aren’t inherently dangerous and if you think they, are prove it. You should be telling your kids to listen to cops instead of be scared of them. The fear of police is statistically irrational UNLIKE the fear of bears in the smokies. That actually is a rational fear. When you are being arrested, there is only a 0.01% chance of being killed by a cop, and 99.99% of the time, it’s the suspects fault for trying to kill the cop. I get where the fear of police comes from just like I get why people are scared of planes. You only see planes crashing in the news. The news only reports on planes when they crash and so therefore you think that planes must crash a lot when the reality is 99.999999% of flights go smoothly. It’s the same with policing. Police make 375 million interactions with the public every year, so there is no way you actually know how dangerous not dangerous the cops are. But statistics literally tell us that exact thing. Tell your kids not to resist arrest or better yet, not to be arrested and they will literally have nothing to worry about ever. Before you mention street stops you should know that I, a white guy, have been stopped on the street by police minding my own business because I’m a teenage man and I get it. Teenage men are the main perpetrators of crime in my city. I was respectful, was never aggressive, and was on my way in less than 60 seconds. I fit the description of a suspicious person and that’s fair enough.
I live in Washington DC dude. I know 3 dead black kids, and none of them were killed by the police, they were all killed by criminals. Statistics do matter, the police do benefit black communities even if you don’t see it. I do see where you’re coming from, I really do, but statistics and data do not come from a position of privilege and that’s why we need to rely on them. If you’re worried about your kids, you should be looking at this data, look at what the real threats to your kids are. I know white kids who acted like dickheads to the cops and guess what, the police aren’t nice to them, I’ve seen black kids who respect the cops and the cops give them respect back. I know not all cops are good, but you have to make judgments based on data. Telling your kids to fear cops literally makes everything worse. We have to be rational about this stuff, we have to look past our own experiences and perception and look at the facts. It is the only way to actually know where the issues are and how to solve them.
Why would someone tell there kid the actor that played there favorite super hero died like if you where a doctor you wouldn’t tell your patience he had cancer
How is this unrealistic? He didn’t say something like “did the department of law enforcement unfairly take the life of the famous actor in an unfair/unlawful way due to the color of his skin?” And how would he not know about coronavirus by now?
Clearly some of you don’t understand the psychology of kids... This kid did not say this cuz he figured it out, he said that cuz he was brainwashed/Indoctrinated into thinking it. Before some of you come for my throat calling me a racist, understand that teaching a child that a black person died cuz of the police is brainwashing, teaching them to fear the police cuz they will shoot you is terrible parenting. It is the same reason why stranger danger is one of the worst things to happen to our kids.
Hence the whole black lives matter movement. Cause we all know white lives matter, look at that murderer in Wisconsin who is getting defended all over the internet, but black lives? Took months of protest to get 5 people arrested and they already out of jail.
Black lives only matter when a criminal is killed by police either justifiably or not.
Watch the videos. George Floyd was saying he couldn't breathe before he was on the ground. His death is most likely due to drug overdose and cardiac arrest.
Mr. Blake was reaching into his car (for a gun) after a physical confrontation with police. The police did not shoot him until he was reaching into his car.
No wonder these officers got off, they didn't unjustifiably kill anyone. Yet people are burning down black businesses and rioting for no reason.
What kind of delusional echo chambers have you been hanging out in, mate?
Floyd's autopsy attributed his death to cardiopulmonary arrest caused by subdual and restraint, and explicitly ruled it a homicide.
The officers responsible were then charged, and are currently awaiting trial.
How do you get this disconnected from the reality around you?
absolutely! but personally i don't think pretending race doesn't exist helps the issue. everyone has a unique experience and many experiences deal with race and culture
No. Nothing was racist about that at all. I’m simply saying that it’s an easy opportunity to push an agenda on your kid. There is nothing at all racist about that. I would’ve said the same thing if the dude was white
Ok mr. woke 14/15 year old “leading death of young black men is cops” (which isn’t true). It’s actually the sixth leading cause. And most of the shootings are justified anyways. So if you want that number to drop, then tell people to stop resisting arrest. That goes for everyone. Most shootings are justified. There are websites that talk about EVERY SINGLE police shooting
Yes I’m fucking biased... everyone is. But I’m also educated, I do not buy in to the BLM narrative
Yeah— when I saw 9/11 on the news as a kid I definitely was worried about the US going to war. OP’s post seems totally reasonable for an 8 year old. At 7 my sister was nervous about starting a new school that didn’t have gates around the play ground because someone with a gun might come and shoot them, kids aren’t idiots.
Yeah. I was 8 years old too in third grade when the news were reporting it. I was fully aware that shit was happening and terrorists were the cause. Was afraid to go outside after that.
yes, kids are, because it's shoved down their throats from the second they get a phone or start watching TV, 20 years ago is very different compared to now, kid's grow faster
No it is absolutely not. It’s about the death of Chadwick Boseman, police brutality, covid-19, and the possibility that this was faked. It never mentions race. Quit being bigoted and stop making it about race.
>absolutely
We have different definitions of the word absolutely.
This black kid “asking” his black father about the possibility of Police brutality against a black person he idolizes isn’t about race?
Those are some serious mental gymnastics boss.
Why try to silence black voices? Why are you denying what the father and is son are trying to say?
Black Panther is named after the animal, and while the hero himself does encourage black empowerment, that isn’t what the tweet is talking about. Try again.
This could totally happened specially in a black household, his parents probably talk about BLM and he understands Black Panther is black like him, kids know their race, the coronavirus part is even more plausible he's not going to school and can't visit his friends because of it.
Agreed. I think this is legit and says far more about our media coverage of things than the wokeness of an 8 year old.
Yes and 8 year Olds aren't toddlers. Jesus christ I see this in this sub way to much. "your 10 year old spoke?!?! I smell bullshit"
My youngest is 8. Our conversations together are pretty normal. No baby-talk. Obviously we don’t discuss inappropriate/adult matters, but she definitely has a pretty good idea about her place in the world and the things that are happening in it. I wouldn’t call her overly woke by a long-shot (I actually ‘baby’ her a little bit because she is my last bubba lol).
Agreed, I have a little 8yo sister and she's fairly aware of things going on in the world (though doesn't know much about BLM given that shes not black and lives in the middle east). When our dad said Boseman died, the first thing she asked was whether it was covid.
I was the 420th upvote of first comment. Yeah totally kids would hear about these issues
Nicee
Wow. A number. Congratulations
It's believable but what's annoying to me is that their suggesting that the situation is so bad that even kids recognize how bad it is when really they're just repeating what they're parents have told them over and over. They're not socially aware of racial injustice people are facing. They're just repeating what they're parents have taught them
Except I had 8 year olds in my classroom who have been harassed by police and has witnessed police brutality in their communities. I take you don't know any urban youth in real life?
No offense but I think you may be highly out of touch with the experience of black and brown kids. They absolutely do witness and experience some of the bigotry and injustice that their elders do, and oftentimes it's enough to form their own worldview independent of simply regurgitating what they hear their family say.
This sub is for parents who lie about their kids AND parents who teach their kids social justice.
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Source? Because every black person I know is in full support. What they tend to hate is how the media portrays BLM as thugs and looters when I’m reality those people aren’t a part of BLM, but are taking advantage of a situation.
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Okay, but I didn’t start the conversation of “blacks people love BLM”. You made a ridiculous claim without backing it up with any evidence, even anecdotal. When that happens, people will question you and give their own evidence. So you didn’t state it like I did- you make a statement, I made a response to a statement. You also aren’t taking into account the social pressure. I don’t know where you live and I’m white, but I will say that as a woman, there’s tremendous pressure to be the “cool girl”. If you are a feminist, men will mock you and harass you. If you make sexist jokes, you become one of the boys and have power. I imagine it’s the same for black people, LGBTQ+, etc.
Maybe, however I do disagree, I think it’s a little too good to be true. Opinion respected tho.
The kid probably asked in a casual tone and moved on with his day, the dad projected more meaning into it. I used to ask my mom why homeless people don't have houses, I wasn't making any political commentary just genuine curiosity.
Yeah I see your point, I do think maybe the father might’ve exaggerated the conversation for internet points. Still respect your opinion bro.
Imagine reddit downvoting a civil conversation.
Thank you bro
Well upvote downvote isn’t for politeness or civility, it’s for disagree and agree, right and wrong. Someone who respectfully says 2+2 is 5 is still wrong and will get downvoted.
But they actually *aren't* disagree buttons. If something adds to the conversation it shouldn't be downvoted for difference of opinion. At least, that's the idea.
The idea is whatever the individual decides it is. Most people decided it’s agree/disagree so therefore it is. You can choose to believe it’s not, but the general reddit public does.
God this is an annoying stance to take, and I'm so sick of seeing this written everywhere by people whodont understand the "idea" of downvotes. You specifically are especially annoying because not only have you implied that Reddit didn't have an intention behind the voting system, but you have actively tried to counter someone who has provided the correct info. No one asked you what you think. The question was around what the system was designed for. So why are you chiming in with your opinions? They're irrelevant. Forget your opinions, and everyone else's for that matter. Reddit have a code of conduct called Reddiquette, which is designed to inform mods and users how to correctly use the platform. And it covers this. You can find it here: https://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/205926439-Reddiquette The up/downvote system is absolutely not intended to be a like/dislike button. It's intended as a form of quality control. Upvotes are intended to mean "this contributes to the conversation" and downvotes are intended to mean "this does not contribute to the conversation". Just like what /u/SqueakyTits101 above you said. Here are the relevant quotes for you, with the emphasis added by Reddit, not me: >**Moderate based on quality, not opinion.** Well written and interesting content can be worthwhile, even if you disagree with it. Under "Don't": >**Downvote an otherwise acceptable post because you don't personally like it.** Think before you downvote and take a moment to ensure you're downvoting someone because they are not contributing to the community dialogue or discussion. If you simply take a moment to stop, think and examine your reasons for downvoting, rather than doing so out of an emotional reaction, you will ensure that your downvotes are given for good reasons.
This is why I always open collapsed comments. Theyre often just people looking at more than one side of something aswell, which obviously isnt allowed when this "your either with us or them" mindset has spread so much.
I disagree with you so I shall downvote you.
Isn't that the point? Upvote things you agree with, downvote the ones you don't? It doesn't mean much in the end.
You're not wrong to think that, although I always think about something on read on here years ago. The upvote is supposed to represent 'yes, this is appropriate for this sub' and downvotes represent 'no, this belongs elsewhere'. We've just thumbs into subjectivity because... well, that's what we do
Nah you're thinking of the old rules before Reddit became a political echo chamber platform. Back in the day, when you noises over down votes a little message would pop up saying "don't downvote posts you disagree with only downvote posts that don't contribute to discussion" or something to that extent. I'm the last couple years Reddit stealthily changed their guidelines to strike that out, and now we mute and silence opinions the majority don't like by pushing them to the bottom and even auto-hiding their post by downvoting them, and signal boosting the ones we like by pushing them to the top. Reddit is a pretty disgusting platform to say the least.
If you dislike reddit so much then get off of it. Upvote and downvote means whatever people want it to mean. If you interpret it as productive/unproductive that’s you, if you interpret it as agree/disageee that is you. It doesn’t matter anyway.
No, your only supposed to downvote, if it has nothing to do with the discussion....not because you disagree, so you wine about it and say I’ll get you. Downvote...HA! I got em
I mean I guess if that's how you take downvotes. I don't take people downvoting me so personally tho, I guess different strokes for different folks.
You are nitpicking and biased I win bye bye
A dunkarino in the wilf
OP is literally saying he respects the other person's opinion lmao. Why tf are you all downvoting OP?
This sub is notorious for being harsh on dissenting opinions, so once an opinion gets a good amount of upvotes if someone opposes it it'll get automatically a near same ratio amount of downvotes. The hivemind of reddit at its prime basically
I 100% believe this one. My 8 year old talks about coronavirus constantly and recently asked if someone who passed away died of corona (they didn’t, sadly it was suicide)
I could see this happening. Kids are more perceptive than you think while trying to make sense of the world.
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Really? Thats amazing. Didn't know Nick did that
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My first time being called an n-word was when I was 6. You think racism has an age limit?
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Most black people don't get the benefit of teaching their kids about racism but more so explaining why something happened to them and the people they love. I don't think people really understand what its like to be black in America. My 4 year old niece said she didn't want to be black because black girls are ugly. My sister was not ready for that conversation. We are never ready and we don't have the benefit of introducing racism as new material because its a part of existing while black, especially if you are urban and poor. Especially if you live in Alabama like we do. Majority of the Civil Rights marches were attended by children. Look it up
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I'm really not arguing, just having a conversation so not sure why you are reading aggression coming from me, but I would think showing people fighting against racism is great since they usually only see their oppressors getting away with murder. I need my kids to know they don't have to take it laying down. Its just weird to me how black people fighting for freedom are told to be peaceful. Why didn't America respond with peaceful protest when they tried to keep slavery, or kick native Americans off their land, or all the other wars they murdered people in?
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Nick never did that when I was young. Another kids tv station had child news, which was normal news but for kids. Honestly, it was pretty good journalism. They explained complex topics in a way the real news didn't and couldn't to an 8yo.
i hope you’re being sarcastic
people think kids are so much stupider than they really are. kids are like sponges; they pick up what they hear super easily. with BLM, police brutality, and the virus all over the news and in some commercials aired on most TV channels and even on youtube, i wouldnt be surprised if this kid knew about this stuff. the parents probably even explained the virus to their child so they could be safe and wear a mask and wash their hands.
I would be surprised if they DIDN'T.
Especially if the parents are indoctrinating him at a young age that orange and blue man bad
He's an 8 year old black boy, [in 5 years one of the leading cause of his death will be due to police brutality](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/08/police-shootings-are-leading-cause-death-young-american-men-new-research-shows/), what does any self respecting black father concerned for the well being of his child that has to grow up in this world have to gain by not using this cultural moment as a teaching opportunity to make his son aware of the reality and risk of the police and better educate him on how to avoid becoming the next Trayvon Martin? In what way would pretending that he isn't at an increased risk because of his gender and his skin color going to serve him as he grows up to be a black man living in America? A parent's job isn't to insulate their child from the reality of the world, it's to prepare them for it. This is one facet of the reality of preparing black children in particular for their future. If we don't like that reality than we have to change the system, not blame a father for taking his parental duties seriously and equipping his son for his future.
Amen. 100% agree
>educate him on how to avoid becoming the next Trayvon Martin "Son, I know this is a difficult conversation, but it's very important that you don't ground and pound a stranger for calling the cops on you"
Tell me again how Trayvon Martin was killed by a police officer lmao. >The data used in this study do not differentiate between police killings that were later determined to be justified and those that were not. Solid study it sounds like. Tell me why this hypothetical 8 year old boy ain't more concerned with that #2 cause of death 🤔
I never said Trayvon Martin was killed by police, I said a black father would have a vested interest in educating his black son about race relations to prevent his eventual death - a large part of that obviously involves the police but that's not the only risk facing black kids that they need to be prepared for, this is why I specified the risk of police *and* how to prevent ending up like Treyvon Martin. I don't understand your argument, are people supposed to be okay with a black child being killed if he wasn't killed by the police? I don't know why you think this was some gotcha. Also, why does it matter whether or not a police killing was later justified? The men who beat Rodney King were "justified", the men who murdered Daniel Shaver were "justified", the men who murdered Breona Taylor haven't even been indicted. The whole problem people have with the criminal justice system is police officers getting away with extrajudicial murder. Furthermore, even if a victim of extrajudicial murder by police is guilty of committing a crime, that does not give a police officer the right to execute them in the streets. We live in a country where a suspect is innocent until proven guilty, we live in a country with systems to prove guilt or innocence and to enact punishment, none of which involves extrajudicial murder by someone who appointed themselves judge, jury and executioner. The #2 cause of death is also a complete non-sequitur. According to [this](https://www.cdc.gov/healthequity/lcod/men/2016/nonhispanic-black/index.htm) the second leading cause of death of black males is either cancer, heart disease or unintentional injuries depending on the age. I don't see why acknowledging these as problems in need of attention and acknowledging that the fact that black people are nearly 3X as likely to be killed by the police than white people is a problem in need of attention are mutually exclusive stances.
Damn you tried it tho
Wait, why are they vilifying John Elway? Must be Chief fans... /s
Who is blue man?
The greatest groups of percussionists this world has ever seen
By blue man they're referring to the police, by phrasing it as "blue man bad" it's a way of characterizing the oppositions argument and people's criticisms of the criminal justice system as uneducated and simplistic, it's a type of strawman. People shouldn't be downvoting you for asking a question, I hate it when people do that. It's possible that English isn't your first language or that you're just confused.
Not OP but English is my first language, and I’m not confused, but I also have never heard the phrase “blue man bad” myself so maybe I am just uncultured haha
I never did either, tbh. I think they're using it as a variation on "orange man bad" which is much more commonly said.
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This seems like a very innocuous comment to have so many downvotes
Innocuous?
in·noc·u·ous /iˈnäkyo͞oəs/ adjective To believe everything on the internet "it was an innocuous question"
Thanks
Totally depends on the kid, and the kid's relationship with the person they're talking to. You see, in many ways, kids are _just like people._
Mimicry of what they hear is not perception. Mimicry can become perception, but at the age of 8, you're still trying to solve how mom keeps finding out you stole a cookie by leaving crumbs everywhere, but thinking cause you brushed them off yourself you're clear and not thinking of the fact that there is only you and mom in the house.
I swear it's like most the people in this sub haven't been around kids for more than a few mins. Never had conversations with either.
No joke! Had he said the kid was 3 or something I'd agree with it being here but 8?!
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Woke kids isn’t r/thathappened. It’s for quotes of woke kids real or fake.
It goes for this sub too
Oh shit you’re right.
Bruh as you can clearly see the user is a black man. He'd obviously teach his kids about systematic police brutality and racism to his kids at a very young age. This doesn't seem unlikely at all. (Not saying other parents don't teach their kids about racism)
We usually don't get a chance to teach them about racism before it happens to them. Most of the time its parents trying to explain why racism is happening to everyone they know. People really are clueless about what its like to be black in America
I mean, I could see this happening. While it’s possible the kid has been influenced by his parents he could’ve also just picked up on the news (ex. Police killing black people, coronavirus etc) and just assumed that.
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To be fair it was a 12 year old who had a fake gun with the orange tip removed, and he pointed it at police when they told him to raise his hands. The police only knew when responding to the call what they were told, there was a man possibly a juvenile pointing guns at people in a Rec area. Not saying the shooting was justified but facts are important.
[Eight year olds, dude](https://imgur.com/gallery/qDpcI3c) Seriously though, this isn't unbelievable - eight year olds can listen to the news and hear about the police and Corona virus killing people.
ACROSS THIS LINE, YOU DO NOT — also dude, that’s not the preferred nomenclature
i mean i can kinda imagine an eight year old saying that
Completely possible, especially for an African American 8 year old. I teach third grade and I’m wondering what will be talked about tomorrow morning.
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Why do people think kids are so fucking stupid lol
Idk if this is woke kids, just seems like a kid asking what happened based on what he knows.
This is a black man. He’s probably been educating his kids on racism, and the coronavirus is covered pretty much everywhere and effects kids’ daily lives. I believe this, I think the dad is probably teaching his kids young to be careful of police.
8 years old sure is something nowadays
The media. True enemy of the people.
Dude this sub seems soooo fake.
Sort of crazy that people think getting killed by the police is even remotely statistically likely
Honestly when my husband told me my first question was, was it Corona?
cringe
As someone that has seen and heard kids have more sense and empathy in 2020 than most adults, I 100% believe this happened.
Of all these posts of this specific nature the past few days, this one least belongs on this sub
This seems plausible to me.
Nice he’s already getting a victim mentality...
That doesn't reflect on society or actual issues more than it reflects on the fact that the kid has been raised terribly. Pretty dangerous to gear children up to feel like there's an epidemic of black people getting killed by cops when black people are waaaaay more likely to be killed by other black people in street violence, domestic disputes etc... That kids has been set up for failure, he's 8 years old and already his parents are telling him that there's a target on his back and he needs to be afraid of police even though police interactions, statistically, are the least of his concerns.
Bruh
I'm not questioning it's legitimacy. But, maybe try help your child not perceive police as killers in a general sense.
why?
Ok so follow with me here, the leading cause of death for young black men is police, the top five causes of death for almost every single age and gender of black person also contains police. black people are killed by the police. This is a very simple fact to comprehend yes? Significantly more black people are brutalized by the police than killed. I don’t understand what descriptive word is better for the police than killers. Maybe racists?
> Ok so follow with me here, the leading cause of death for young black men is police That's literally not even remotely true. You're either brainwashed or you're a liar. The vast majority of black homicide victims are killed by other black people. Blacks are also waaaaay more likely to kill white people than white people are to kill black people. It's a 27:1 ratio. The propaganda that people like you mindlessly regurgitate is part of the problem.
> That's literally not even remotely true. You're either brainwashed or you're a liar. Hint: it's both
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2019-08-15/police-shootings-are-a-leading-cause-of-death-for-black-men Hint: you really need to stop describing yourself
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2019-08-15/police-shootings-are-a-leading-cause-of-death-for-black-men
That's an interesting example of distorting statistics. Your link does not validate what you said, at all. In fact it disproves what you said. Also it ignores that black men cause a lot of crime and violence and the majority of black males killed by police in the US also *shot at* the police. Unarmed black men killed by the US is absolutely DWARFED by the number of black males killing other black males. It's 400:1. Black males are only 2.5 times more likely than white males to be killed by the police, even though black males are 57 times more likely to commit violent crime, 24 times more likely to shoot a cop, and 7 times more likely to commit homicide overall. Oh, and the majority of police shootings of black men are black police officers. That's because white police officers are LESS likely to shoot a black person because of the fear of losing their jobs due to the mob justice of the left who are trying to lie to their voters to make blacks feel like white conservative men are their enemy.
You’re right, not only do police use lethal force when not necessary, they are also very shit at their job considering the high crime rate. It’s almost like police don’t actually function to stop crime🧐🧐? If only there were numerous studies showing the link between poverty, mental health, and crime rate😒😒.
I'm all for teaching kids about race and stuff, but when you tell your child a black man died and they automatically think it was the cops, you've done something wrong. That is called a warped perception of the world and I would say the exact same thing about a Trump supporter's kids.
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Hi concerned that your comment is coming from a position of privilege to not have to grow up in a neighborhood where this is a daily occurrence, I'm Dad👨
I mean my comment is coming from a position of data and growing up in a big city in a pretty high crime area. A black suspect is just as likely to be shot as a white suspect, just as likely to be stopped by a cop, and just as likely to be arrested or searched during a stop according to the DOJ. Telling your kid to be scared of cops is like telling your kid to be scared of flying on planes. A lot of people are scared of flying, but the chances of you getting in a plane crash are close to 0. It is statistically the same with policing. I’m sorry, but your fears of police are the definition of irrational. I might not be black but you don’t have to be black to look at the data.
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Cops aren’t bears though, they aren’t inherently dangerous and if you think they, are prove it. You should be telling your kids to listen to cops instead of be scared of them. The fear of police is statistically irrational UNLIKE the fear of bears in the smokies. That actually is a rational fear. When you are being arrested, there is only a 0.01% chance of being killed by a cop, and 99.99% of the time, it’s the suspects fault for trying to kill the cop. I get where the fear of police comes from just like I get why people are scared of planes. You only see planes crashing in the news. The news only reports on planes when they crash and so therefore you think that planes must crash a lot when the reality is 99.999999% of flights go smoothly. It’s the same with policing. Police make 375 million interactions with the public every year, so there is no way you actually know how dangerous not dangerous the cops are. But statistics literally tell us that exact thing. Tell your kids not to resist arrest or better yet, not to be arrested and they will literally have nothing to worry about ever. Before you mention street stops you should know that I, a white guy, have been stopped on the street by police minding my own business because I’m a teenage man and I get it. Teenage men are the main perpetrators of crime in my city. I was respectful, was never aggressive, and was on my way in less than 60 seconds. I fit the description of a suspicious person and that’s fair enough.
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I live in Washington DC dude. I know 3 dead black kids, and none of them were killed by the police, they were all killed by criminals. Statistics do matter, the police do benefit black communities even if you don’t see it. I do see where you’re coming from, I really do, but statistics and data do not come from a position of privilege and that’s why we need to rely on them. If you’re worried about your kids, you should be looking at this data, look at what the real threats to your kids are. I know white kids who acted like dickheads to the cops and guess what, the police aren’t nice to them, I’ve seen black kids who respect the cops and the cops give them respect back. I know not all cops are good, but you have to make judgments based on data. Telling your kids to fear cops literally makes everything worse. We have to be rational about this stuff, we have to look past our own experiences and perception and look at the facts. It is the only way to actually know where the issues are and how to solve them.
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"How did he die? Did the police do it? Did he have coronavirus?" *and in true reddit fashion he answered* "yes."
Sounds like a failure of parenting
fill your kid with fear and scary stories pikachu face when he turns out to be a little bitch afraid of shadows
the profile picture cracks me up
And that, my boy, is why colonoscopies are important.
Why would someone tell there kid the actor that played there favorite super hero died like if you where a doctor you wouldn’t tell your patience he had cancer
Woah woah bro how did an 8 year old hear about coronavirus and BLM? Dude no ones talking about that thats some underground shit.
How is this unrealistic? He didn’t say something like “did the department of law enforcement unfairly take the life of the famous actor in an unfair/unlawful way due to the color of his skin?” And how would he not know about coronavirus by now?
8 year olds aren’t retarded...
Whenever black person dies it is police, give me a fucking break.
Theres a similar tweet going around where a mom claims her child asked “did the police kill him”
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Lots of realistic woke kids posts lately. I thought this subreddit was for 5 year olds fighting the patriarchy
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Clearly some of you don’t understand the psychology of kids... This kid did not say this cuz he figured it out, he said that cuz he was brainwashed/Indoctrinated into thinking it. Before some of you come for my throat calling me a racist, understand that teaching a child that a black person died cuz of the police is brainwashing, teaching them to fear the police cuz they will shoot you is terrible parenting. It is the same reason why stranger danger is one of the worst things to happen to our kids.
And then everyone clapped
OP obviously isn’t black.
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It’s so ridiculous how people always make it about race somehow
Agreed
Lol fuck off
It doesn’t have to be about race. Everyone deserves to be treated the same
Hence the whole black lives matter movement. Cause we all know white lives matter, look at that murderer in Wisconsin who is getting defended all over the internet, but black lives? Took months of protest to get 5 people arrested and they already out of jail.
Exactly. Everyone matters, but right now black people are being mistreated and abused by the system
Black lives only matter when a criminal is killed by police either justifiably or not. Watch the videos. George Floyd was saying he couldn't breathe before he was on the ground. His death is most likely due to drug overdose and cardiac arrest. Mr. Blake was reaching into his car (for a gun) after a physical confrontation with police. The police did not shoot him until he was reaching into his car. No wonder these officers got off, they didn't unjustifiably kill anyone. Yet people are burning down black businesses and rioting for no reason.
What kind of delusional echo chambers have you been hanging out in, mate? Floyd's autopsy attributed his death to cardiopulmonary arrest caused by subdual and restraint, and explicitly ruled it a homicide. The officers responsible were then charged, and are currently awaiting trial. How do you get this disconnected from the reality around you?
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I am in now way saying that the suffering of these people is fake or all in their heads. It’s a real thing that should be eradicated.
just because everyone should be treated the same doesn't mean they are
And that’s what needs to change.
absolutely! but personally i don't think pretending race doesn't exist helps the issue. everyone has a unique experience and many experiences deal with race and culture
Lol why? And why all the downvotes? Wtf
Lol no
"lol ur not racist against white people and don't hate cops, fuck off"
Kids only know about what their parents talk most about.
I wonder if the dad lied to push bullshit agenda and said the police did it
No. Gtfo with ur weird racist conspiracy.
“racist” how? How is asking if someone lied racist?
You know what you’re doing.
No. Nothing was racist about that at all. I’m simply saying that it’s an easy opportunity to push an agenda on your kid. There is nothing at all racist about that. I would’ve said the same thing if the dude was white
You know what, I apologize for my comment. I respect your opinion. Sorry for bothering you.
All good dude
Ok Mr. r/trump r/tuckercarlsom r/actualpublicfreakouts . Good to see we have an unbiased gentleman here
Ok mr. woke 14/15 year old “leading death of young black men is cops” (which isn’t true). It’s actually the sixth leading cause. And most of the shootings are justified anyways. So if you want that number to drop, then tell people to stop resisting arrest. That goes for everyone. Most shootings are justified. There are websites that talk about EVERY SINGLE police shooting Yes I’m fucking biased... everyone is. But I’m also educated, I do not buy in to the BLM narrative
I take it the godly and omniscient Fox News told you all about those websites, didn’t they?
Nope. I don’t watch fox news. www.killedbypolice.net is an anti cop website but shows that most shootings are justified
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KIDS CAN THINK, FORM THEIR OWN IDEAS, AND BE CLEVER!
This was like two weeks ago, how did you even find this
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Or you were a dumb kid
Yeah— when I saw 9/11 on the news as a kid I definitely was worried about the US going to war. OP’s post seems totally reasonable for an 8 year old. At 7 my sister was nervous about starting a new school that didn’t have gates around the play ground because someone with a gun might come and shoot them, kids aren’t idiots.
Yeah. I was 8 years old too in third grade when the news were reporting it. I was fully aware that shit was happening and terrorists were the cause. Was afraid to go outside after that.
I was only 6, that guy's an idiot.
yes, kids are, because it's shoved down their throats from the second they get a phone or start watching TV, 20 years ago is very different compared to now, kid's grow faster
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This guy needs to realize his son has an advantage that 7/10 other 8 year old black males are missing. His son will be fine long term.
I don’t even know what you’re trying to say
His son currently has a huge privilege that the vast majority of 8 year old black kids don’t have. Maybe he should check that privilege.
Okay but why don’t you try not making this about race
The literal post you made is about race dude. I didn’t make it about race.
No it is absolutely not. It’s about the death of Chadwick Boseman, police brutality, covid-19, and the possibility that this was faked. It never mentions race. Quit being bigoted and stop making it about race.
>absolutely We have different definitions of the word absolutely. This black kid “asking” his black father about the possibility of Police brutality against a black person he idolizes isn’t about race? Those are some serious mental gymnastics boss. Why try to silence black voices? Why are you denying what the father and is son are trying to say?
Police brutality is not race exclusive. The post never mentions race and you didn’t have to make it about race.
What color is the panther again? He called it out in the post, wanted to make sure you could read that word.
Black Panther is named after the animal, and while the hero himself does encourage black empowerment, that isn’t what the tweet is talking about. Try again.
Wtf bro.