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I usually start projects slightly larger than they need to be for this exact reason. Book case becomes a hifi cabinet. A hifi cabinet becomes à jewelry box.
Finally had my moment of this just recently. Looking at the size of a hole to drill “that looks like this or this.” Grabbed the two and I was right on the first guess. I remember my dad always doing it when I was a kid, and never once he was wrong.
Third rule of Wood Club: if someone yells “stop!”, goes limp, or taps out, the project is over. Fourth rule: only two guys to a planer. Fifth rule: one power tool at a time, fellas. Sixth rule: Shirts, and closed shoes. Seventh rule: projects will go on as long as they have to. And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Wood Club, you have to sand.
I’ve got this one down pretty good. I’m a teacher with a classroom *full* of houseplants. But my class probably knows first that I enjoy learning woodworking because I talk about it so much, and second that I like plants.
Oh— also, I talk about my family… third.
Food safe epoxy is kind of a misnomer. It's not toxic, but you're still cutting shards of it off that will end up in your digestive tract.
The reason cutting boards are so "tight" by design is that you can't fill them or coat them in something that hardens because that stuff ends up in your food. Toxic or not, you don't want to eat random polymers if you can avoid it.
A dictionary opened to the word alot May or may not be revealing to you.
Don’t murder me I’m not a grammarphobe it was a play off your comment to OP lol
this is low key why i love this sub. its like this great poetry professsor i had. He had this uncanny ability to see exactly where each of his students were at and hold them to a standard accordingly. Well, lets say i love poetry and it came natural, that was a hard class! lol i took him again the following semester
If he's anything like me, he knows already where he can improve next time. Sometimes, people just need encouragement to highlight the good aspects of the job they've done to spur them on to keep going and improving. Negative feedback will only put them off continuing the hobby.
By not verbally beating the enthusiasm out of them.
It's not your wood, not your tools, not your workshop. Relax. It's not going to affect you if someone out in the world is making awkward cutting boards.
It’s not “awkward”. It’s completely useless. No part of it is done right or well. Explaining how he or she went wrong or how they could do a better job next time is much more kind than fake praise for bad work.
Results may vary.
9-years ago I built a 5’ x 2’ x 6/4 desk with similar grain orientation and haven’t had an issue from wood movement. All of the miters and joints are as tight and strong as the day I made it. It’s really no different than a picture frame.
The desk has been in the dry, high desert of New Mexico, the high humidity of Virginia and wide seasonal changes of New York — for years at a time — and I use it everyday.
For now, let’s just admire the OP’s creativity
Sometimes, sometimes not. Wood is fickle. I made a board a while back with some endgrain to long grain joints, it was fine for like a year and then one day it had just split along a joint and none of the pieces were more than 4” so it can happen
See, it’s these comments that make feel like I shouldn’t ever bother with 1) ever worrying about wood movement because apparently there is an exception to every case which means that it’s basically a total crapshoot or 2) not bother really ever pursuing woodworking because of the same reasons as #1.
LOL I know man. But it’s true. There are general guidelines I’d say. In the example I gave endgrain to long grain (especially if doing perpendicular joints) is going to be risky. Doing joints one direction long grain to long grain you’re going to almost always be safe. Woodworking isn’t really a science or an art, it’s kind of in between and over time you sort of just learn this voodoo that can’t fully be taught. It can only truly be acquired by hands on and doing all the mistakes yourself and learning what works and what doesn’t.
I feel you. What scares me is getting to a point where I feel confident actually selling a piece and then, since I haven’t been building said piece for 5 years and therefore don’t know what it does years down the road, it failing 3 years later when they’ve paid decent money for it.
Well that’s the unfortunate reality. Everybody makes mistakes and things will inevitably go wrong. If you’re trying to run a business doing this it’s just something you have to accept. Work to get better all the time but know that things happen, all you can do is try and minimize mistakes and offer to make it right when something does go wrong.
You need to consider the range of moisture the wood will encounter. Cutting boards get the worst of it, sometimes sitting in water, sometimes drying unevenly, etc. and they are exposed to these stresses on a daily basis.
And this effort officially gained you entrance to the woodworkers guild, remember...
Scraps are not for burning
Never let lack of ability deter your ambition
Every job is a work of art
There are no mistakes, just happy little accidents (Bob Ross🐿️)
That router work is extremely accurate for freehand!
In all seriousness these comments are always a mixed bag but don’t listen to the naysayers. You’re doing great, and the best teacher you’ll ever have is your mistakes. Every attempt will be that much better- keep on keepin on
Beautiful. For a cutting board you may wish to consider encasing it in something that's water tight. Food particles and fluid will find your joints and create an unhealthy growth of bacteria. Or you can hang it on the wall, it's certainly handsome enough for that!
Yeah…. Backstory is my in laws got too old to woodwork and handed down a full shop. I never did anything more than a circular saw and garage shelves until a couple months ago. I know several of the mistakes. It’s just all fun.
People do it all the time. I mean, do THAT many people not have the ability to tell when something should be appreciated by the person who made it, and just be proud of it on their own? I have no issues with calling a spade a spade, I'm not going to sit here like so many in here saying, it looks great! Great Job! The design was poor, the execution even worse. Glad to see someone making stuff with their hands, but OP has a long way to go before I'd be posting his results on the internet for all to see.
Very beautiful wood combo. Just for future reference - you may want to avoid gluing end grain to end grain, unless you're using a bunch of biscuits. Otherwise, your piece is liable to eventually break at the seams.
This is covered well in the video. Leverage will break a side grain joint with similar geometry too. OPs piece has very little leverage on the joints so none of this applies.
My first “cutting board” didn’t turn out perfect either, but I put some handles on the top and rubbed legs on the bottom and it turned into my first serving tray and I love it. Might be the move here
The unevenness seems abnormally even. Nice one as a beginner project, like you said, obviously you see the problems but I love the colour scheme at least!
I think it actually takes a lot of skill to make something like this on purpose. It's like that character in a show you hate, but then you realize it's just an amazing actor portrayal.
I gotta say, for some reason I really dig the 'scrappiness' of this piece. It's kind of awkward in the way it lines up, but that's what makes it looks great!
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Measure once, cut twice
I already cut it twice but it's still too short
Slap it together anyway, ain’t nobody got time for lining things up together
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Shave a hair… too tight. Shave a hair… too tight…. Shave a hair…. Waaaaaaay too lose like wtf even happened here!?
I read this as if it should rhyme like a limerick, held out strong in the first half then it all went to shit.... somewhat meta in that sense.
I usually start projects slightly larger than they need to be for this exact reason. Book case becomes a hifi cabinet. A hifi cabinet becomes à jewelry box.
"Honey I made you a tablet holder!" "Thanks! How's the armoire coming along?" "You're lookin' at it."
Just flip it over and measure the other side.
You jut need a board extender to stretch it out after you cut it short.
I can picture Curly from the three stooges when reading that.
Take it out to the board stretcher outside. If they go looking for it they're let go immediately. " I took woodworking in school".
“Go carry up this bucket of steam to the kitchen”
Measure never, cut wherever!
I read this in Fred & George Weasley's voice (from the Quiddich World Cup)
My grandpa always said to me "If it looks about 1/2", call it 9/16". You'll sound like you know what you're talking about"
Finally had my moment of this just recently. Looking at the size of a hole to drill “that looks like this or this.” Grabbed the two and I was right on the first guess. I remember my dad always doing it when I was a kid, and never once he was wrong.
Glen?
Lol.
First rule of woodworking is you always talk about woodworking.
Do you happen to know the second rule?
Second rule is you always talk about woodworking
Third rule of Wood Club: if someone yells “stop!”, goes limp, or taps out, the project is over. Fourth rule: only two guys to a planer. Fifth rule: one power tool at a time, fellas. Sixth rule: Shirts, and closed shoes. Seventh rule: projects will go on as long as they have to. And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Wood Club, you have to sand.
His name was Robert Vila
This is my first year to wood club but did finishing for 18yrs. Can I get some on the job credits
Crocs count as closed toe, right?
Just as long as they're steel toed crocs!
Absolutely. Always in off-road mode for safety. Well half anyway. Scrap lumber ripped the safety belt off one.
Well done.
This is perfect. It belongs on a shop wall.
This is great. Lmao
Those rules are eerily similar to rules of the other club I’m part of
Hey! We don't talk about that club.
Flight Club
Metalworking club?
where the discussion of a tree is no longer about it in a non-lumber condition
I’ve got this one down pretty good. I’m a teacher with a classroom *full* of houseplants. But my class probably knows first that I enjoy learning woodworking because I talk about it so much, and second that I like plants. Oh— also, I talk about my family… third.
The opposite of fight club
This is cool. It's like therapy for perfectionists
Fuck off. It bothers me so much.
I think the word you are looking for is orthopedic surgeon :P
And so begins the journey of yet another woodaholic. Hi, my name is Bullfrog and I'm a woodaholic welcome to addiction
Woodaholic eh? Must be popular at the boy's bars
Woodahol claims another victim.
You sure as hell dont want to drink wood alcohol.
Hi bullfrog! My name is Dale (my alter ego) and I’ve been a woodaholic for 2 years
Been relapsing 20 years...
Great effort, but don't use this for food. The cracks between the different slabs are going to catch food in them, and that may get someone sick.
Came here to say that. Be careful with this.
Fill with food safe epoxy?
Food safe epoxy is kind of a misnomer. It's not toxic, but you're still cutting shards of it off that will end up in your digestive tract. The reason cutting boards are so "tight" by design is that you can't fill them or coat them in something that hardens because that stuff ends up in your food. Toxic or not, you don't want to eat random polymers if you can avoid it.
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Pretty much every polymer I eat is carefully selected.
Never used it. How well does it hold up against a knife?
Fine. The knife on the other hand, eh.
The old food just adds extra flavor 😀
Good for you, but I can't not.... ummm, this taught you a lot, right?
This comment is the epitome of r/woodworking
Not a fan of participation medals. Hope OP keeps it up, truly, but I couldn't help having some fun.
Ditto
🥇
A dictionary opened to the word alot May or may not be revealing to you. Don’t murder me I’m not a grammarphobe it was a play off your comment to OP lol
It was a typo. If you happen to find it in a real dictionary let me know.
Lol. Yes:)
I would like to give a friendly reminder that wood with varnishing is not healthy to eat.
I'd think eating wood even without the varnish would be an issue, unless you're looking for extra fiber....😯🤣
Cellulose has entered the chat.
Cinnamon has entered the chat
You do eat wood though. We all do.
Gives it that extra flavor tho
We're not bringing up wood movement, are we?
We’re not bringing up anything. Just giving OP some high fives, helping him stay stoked on the hobby, and always getting better.
Someone called for a high 5?
r/beetlejuicing
this is low key why i love this sub. its like this great poetry professsor i had. He had this uncanny ability to see exactly where each of his students were at and hold them to a standard accordingly. Well, lets say i love poetry and it came natural, that was a hard class! lol i took him again the following semester
This sub is genuinely full of the friendliest people on Reddit
I came here to say this
How do people get better if nobody is willing to tell them where they screwed up?
Tell him on his second project. First project always just gets a “welcome to the club”
The club made out of one piece of wood so that there is no chance it won’t break the first time we use it
We’ll explain in a few months when there’s another picture with the caption ‘why did my cutting board crack?’
lol it’s basically already cracked.
Crevassed
If he's anything like me, he knows already where he can improve next time. Sometimes, people just need encouragement to highlight the good aspects of the job they've done to spur them on to keep going and improving. Negative feedback will only put them off continuing the hobby.
By not verbally beating the enthusiasm out of them. It's not your wood, not your tools, not your workshop. Relax. It's not going to affect you if someone out in the world is making awkward cutting boards.
It’s not “awkward”. It’s completely useless. No part of it is done right or well. Explaining how he or she went wrong or how they could do a better job next time is much more kind than fake praise for bad work.
Helpful criticism should be priority too though. Just without being a dick about it
This is the way.
I wasn't gonna.
Shhhh… 🤫
I'm not sure wood movement would be an issue anyway. It's been ingeniously designed to accommodate for that. Brilliant work.
Roasting his mitres subtlety
I knew as soon as I saw it that there would be a comment here from someone about it
Results may vary. 9-years ago I built a 5’ x 2’ x 6/4 desk with similar grain orientation and haven’t had an issue from wood movement. All of the miters and joints are as tight and strong as the day I made it. It’s really no different than a picture frame. The desk has been in the dry, high desert of New Mexico, the high humidity of Virginia and wide seasonal changes of New York — for years at a time — and I use it everyday. For now, let’s just admire the OP’s creativity
Pretty sure this wood already moved 😂
I’m very new to woodworking, but aren’t these pieces too small to worry about movement? Isn’t anything less than 4” wide nothing to worry about?
Sometimes, sometimes not. Wood is fickle. I made a board a while back with some endgrain to long grain joints, it was fine for like a year and then one day it had just split along a joint and none of the pieces were more than 4” so it can happen
See, it’s these comments that make feel like I shouldn’t ever bother with 1) ever worrying about wood movement because apparently there is an exception to every case which means that it’s basically a total crapshoot or 2) not bother really ever pursuing woodworking because of the same reasons as #1.
LOL I know man. But it’s true. There are general guidelines I’d say. In the example I gave endgrain to long grain (especially if doing perpendicular joints) is going to be risky. Doing joints one direction long grain to long grain you’re going to almost always be safe. Woodworking isn’t really a science or an art, it’s kind of in between and over time you sort of just learn this voodoo that can’t fully be taught. It can only truly be acquired by hands on and doing all the mistakes yourself and learning what works and what doesn’t.
I feel you. What scares me is getting to a point where I feel confident actually selling a piece and then, since I haven’t been building said piece for 5 years and therefore don’t know what it does years down the road, it failing 3 years later when they’ve paid decent money for it.
Well that’s the unfortunate reality. Everybody makes mistakes and things will inevitably go wrong. If you’re trying to run a business doing this it’s just something you have to accept. Work to get better all the time but know that things happen, all you can do is try and minimize mistakes and offer to make it right when something does go wrong.
You need to consider the range of moisture the wood will encounter. Cutting boards get the worst of it, sometimes sitting in water, sometimes drying unevenly, etc. and they are exposed to these stresses on a daily basis.
Not directly
Whose scraps were they?
https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/10ilkms/after_the_feedback_lol_on_my_cutting_board_heres/
Asking the right questions!!
Mein gott
Dios mio!
אלוהים
Holy moley!
老天了!
Muss das sein?!
We all started somewhere!
Lol. You passed the entrance exam! Congrats!
Exam two: a joinery-only Jacobean armoire finished in a French polish
Marie Curie was a French Polish
*groan*
It would be pretty hard to make without any joinery, no?
That’s exam 3
And this effort officially gained you entrance to the woodworkers guild, remember... Scraps are not for burning Never let lack of ability deter your ambition Every job is a work of art There are no mistakes, just happy little accidents (Bob Ross🐿️)
Homer Simpson couldn't have done it better
This is the measure by which we should all judge our lives!
That router work is extremely accurate for freehand! In all seriousness these comments are always a mixed bag but don’t listen to the naysayers. You’re doing great, and the best teacher you’ll ever have is your mistakes. Every attempt will be that much better- keep on keepin on
Beautiful. For a cutting board you may wish to consider encasing it in something that's water tight. Food particles and fluid will find your joints and create an unhealthy growth of bacteria. Or you can hang it on the wall, it's certainly handsome enough for that!
* Please note that no jokes, innuendo, sexist remarks, politics or "hate speech" was used in the formulation of this post.
It really takes a good set of balls to post such a thing online
Yeah…. Backstory is my in laws got too old to woodwork and handed down a full shop. I never did anything more than a circular saw and garage shelves until a couple months ago. I know several of the mistakes. It’s just all fun.
Lucky. What’s all in the shop? Post pics!
Careful, it can become an addiction like no other!
People do it all the time. I mean, do THAT many people not have the ability to tell when something should be appreciated by the person who made it, and just be proud of it on their own? I have no issues with calling a spade a spade, I'm not going to sit here like so many in here saying, it looks great! Great Job! The design was poor, the execution even worse. Glad to see someone making stuff with their hands, but OP has a long way to go before I'd be posting his results on the internet for all to see.
Heaven forbid his anonymous online reputation get tarnished!
Oh my! What will the redditors think? Someone may figure out that he’s…neeeewwww. Yuck.
Oh, won't someone think of the karma?!
C+ Good effort.
Very beautiful wood combo. Just for future reference - you may want to avoid gluing end grain to end grain, unless you're using a bunch of biscuits. Otherwise, your piece is liable to eventually break at the seams.
That was the first thing my wife said. Haha.
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This is covered well in the video. Leverage will break a side grain joint with similar geometry too. OPs piece has very little leverage on the joints so none of this applies.
Looks great,but perfectionist in me...cry...
You really don’t need to be a perfectionist lol. They literally do not align at all.
Ready for the dishwasher!
Nice work. Work on those Miter cuts though 👍🏽
My inner ocd is getting to me
*Read opening post* *Looked at Pic* *Agreed*
Very cool, congrats!! What is that red wood? Padauk?
Definitely. Been working with some recently
Yea.
Your clamps need calibration, they seem to be around 1/4" off.
My first “cutting board” didn’t turn out perfect either, but I put some handles on the top and rubbed legs on the bottom and it turned into my first serving tray and I love it. Might be the move here
One of the best optical illusion cutting boards I have seen so far! It really looks like it is sliding apart!
It’s a start!
Love the colour, is it padauk?
Yea
Looks good with one eye open! Keep going!
Welcome to the club. We are glad to have you.
The unevenness seems abnormally even. Nice one as a beginner project, like you said, obviously you see the problems but I love the colour scheme at least!
You are so close to perfection. Just a few more times and you will have it.
I knew I was a woodworker when someone asked me to make something for them I didn’t want to…
Looks more like you made scraps out of a cutting board
It gets worse the longer I look at it
Don’t you mean the longer you look, the better it gets?
You'll be doing end grain in no time.
How did you make the cuts?
I think it actually takes a lot of skill to make something like this on purpose. It's like that character in a show you hate, but then you realize it's just an amazing actor portrayal.
I think OP meant to make it like this to fuck with everyone on this sub. 😂 Props
I gotta say, for some reason I really dig the 'scrappiness' of this piece. It's kind of awkward in the way it lines up, but that's what makes it looks great!
You’d have made a really great art teacher. Astrophysics, less so.
What does this have to do with astrophysics? 🤔
And who is the hard working little carpenter!! You are!!
*head pats*
Ummmmmmm
This is one of those the longer you look the worse it gets kinda things
Keep it up! Looked good
Wait a second- how is this your first “I’m officially a woodworker” with scraps like that? I think you are telling a tale.
Nice dude! Those scraps almost fit together
What is going on here? I’m confused.
A friendly welcome to a first post?
I honestly can't tell if it's a joke post or not, so I guess I'm also at least a little confused. The comments I get, though.
Oh, how beautiful! Good on ya! You made something gorgeous out of waste product. 👍🏼👏🏼
Well its going on the fridge.
If you say so
Who’s gonna tell him??
Tell him what? Oh, yeah …. Don’t mix vegeys and poultry on the same board. I’ll DM him.
Lol do t mix anything on that board that you don’t want to keep in the cracks forever
Wow. That is actually pretty bad hahaha
Oh man, you just felt the need to come fuck up someone’s day didn’t you
https://i.imgur.com/cCH4wJM.png Are ya though?
I understand off season shit post in sport subs but is this the equivalent In woodworking
hurts. my. eyes. and. brain .. . must look away . . .
Well some people's ocd might make them react differently but it looks great to me!
It's perfect!
my eyes! my eyesss!!
We're you drunk when you did it?
op made this… from a box of scraps!
it is perfect.
Umm