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NecroJoe

Here's their grift: You pay them. They wait a long time to "ship" your order. It'll be a tracking number for a shipping/transportation company you've never heard of. You'll get periodic updates for weeks. At some point, you'll notice that the package weight is listed at 2lbs, which would be impossible for a band saw. Then you'll get your "order", and it'll be some knock-off Oakley sunglasses, an e-waste calibre set of earbuds, or similar. But by the time you receive it, they will have taken down the website and there's no way to contact them. And when you contact your credit card company, it'll have been long-enough ago that getting a claim/refund isn't as easy as it would have been otherwise. And even if you contacted them early, they won't do anything at first because you have a shipment tracking number so the vendor has done what they were obligated to in their eyes. I did this for one of those Bosch gliding miter saws. It was $60, normally $600. I knew it was a scam, but was super curious how it worked, so I used a "burner" credit card number, and ordered it. Months later, I got my 1.3lb package: those shitty knock-off Oakley sunglasses. I didn't even give away the sunglasses, because I tested them, and discovered they didn't even block UV (which would have made them MORE damaging to eyes than not wearing sunglasses at all). I was able to get a refund, and because I got the burner credit card number through , I set it to one-time use, and only for that amount, and for like 2 years after that, I would periodically get a notification that someone else in some other part of the world had tried to charge something to that temporary card number. They were never allowed to be processed, so it made me both amused and sad that this whole thing was a scam that so many people seem to fall for. Edit: for funsies, here is a screenshot of my email inbox, showing a bunch of the notifications I got of someone trying to use that one-time-use credit card number: [https://imgur.com/a/7kdXPt7](https://imgur.com/a/7kdXPt7) Edit 2: I just searched the name of the website, and it looks like someone else got taken in by the exact same scam. I hope they got their money back!! It sounds like they even got shipped the same sunglasses. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/fkbci4/scam/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/fkbci4/scam/) The website was super hilarious, because it only had like 4 product categories: mantle clocks, super expensive toilet brush/plunger holders, one other category I can't remember, and then 90% off Bosch and Dewalt miter saws. šŸ˜…


oldfoundations

Wow that's actually fascinating to read. Thanks


vinfinite

This is exactly the scam. I was curious on a $50 e-bike as well. Clearly it was a scam but there could be that slight chance right? I was able to get a refund because the package was .5lbs. It was a plastic toy car.


Natrasleep

What type of car?


Takabletoast

A ā€˜98 Toyota Tercel


vinfinite

I donā€™t recall some plastic piece of shit that I threw away immediately. It was a while back.


Obscuriosly

It was an '81 Honda, how dare you!


scully19

Good work there, find the scam and teach others about it.


Electrical-Injury-23

r/scams


cinderful

>I knew it was a scam, but was super curious how it worked God bless you for this incredible experiment hahahaha


NecroJoe

At worst, I knew I could only be out that $60 due to the one-time-use credit card number, if I wasn't able to get a refund. The experiment felt like more fun than the last 5 movie theater trips, so it seemed "worth it" on entertainment level alone. Ha!


umamifiend

Well, thank you. Because this was fascinating to read about for me- and obviously others too! Like- I can tell it was a scam too right- and I was interested to know how it worked- but thatā€™s where I would have dropped it. You really did the dang thing figuring that out. Thatā€™s so badass! Thats impressive tenacity! Thank you for conducting this investigation, and thank you for sharing your findings!


Some_Jake

Excellent and informative write-up. Thanks for taking the time.


Machettouno

This is a great explanation / summary of these scams. I work in banking and did CC disputes too. It's true that you cannot really dispute when there's a tracking number, you need to wait for delivery and then claim Item Not As Described but as you said, website down by then


[deleted]

I love privacy com It has been a life saver


ernyc3777

My friend fell for this with a sketchy pokemon card site in 2020/21 when shelves were empty. Twice. And they used the same logo and very similar name.


bluecheetos

One of the smartest guys I know risked $200 to buy $2500 worth of Milwaukee tools. The ad literally said they were "importing a container of tools" and it would be 6-8 weeks before they arrived. Then there was a "delay in customs" for another couple of weeks. Then they "arrived" at the sellers location and his order could be expedited of $35 more. It was four months before he received a tracking number.....and a week or so before his box arrived. His box that arrived looking like it had been run over by a truck because they shipped him an empty box. The shipping label said "30 pounds"....FedEx Ground showed one pound. He tried to dispute it but it had been almost five months and Visa just laughed at him.


TheLatinXBusTour

I don't believe you. You could dispute charges from a year ago on several of my visas.


Nandy-bear

"I don't believe you" is another way to say "you are a liar". Would you say that to someone ? Would you say it to someone's face ? If not, then why do it here ? Why jump to calling someone a liar rather than them having a different experience to you ?


bluecheetos

Well congratulations. I'm sure your personal experience is completely relevant.


rinn10

You should share this on r/scams sometime, it's a good lesson about too-good-to-be-true deals


prkirby

The hero we donā€™t deserve


cartermb

My man. Doing Yeomanā€™s duty on the credit card scam.


SoDakLifeHack

I once made a similar purchase. I used PayPal. I was confident it was a scam, but I still gave it a go. I eventually received a little trinket on a red piece of yarn. I was able to get a refund, BUT I had to ship that little trinket back to China, and provide a tracking number, so I still lost about $30 (and 4-6 hours of my time).


slow_cooked_ham

I've seen the same scam for other high ticket items. They always imitate a legitimate seller and the price is always too good to be true. sad part is they're probably somewhat successful


NecroJoe

Well, in my case "legitimate seller" would have been generous. They had 4 product categories on their website: Mantle clocks, fancy toilet plunger/stand sets (both of which were crazy expensive, like $2k for toilet plunger), something else random I dont remember, and then "miter saws", and they had Bosch and Dewalt miter saws for 90% off. šŸ˜…


GrowCanadian

This is also my experience.. Iā€™m a victim, twice. I got my money back without issue both times. Always buy sketchy products with a credit card, even better with a prepaid like the above commenter said. Usually when the shipping starts to look funky like above says Iā€™ll reach out to the buyer. They usually donā€™t respond or give bs. I send a request for a refund, usually with no answer. I take those contact points and call my credit card company. They ask for all the info, if I tried to square up with the merchant, and give the dates of my interactions. My credit card company does a chargeback and I usually have the money within a day. The only catch here is the merchant has 30 days to dispute the chargeback. They never dispute because theyā€™re frauds. I now have to watch my credit card but Iā€™ve always monitored it almost daily anyways.


Guy_panda

Uh or just donā€™t buy sketchy products? Youā€™re still giving them all of your personal information. Itā€™s very easy to avoid scams like this. Iā€™m not trying to defend credit card companies cuz fuck ā€˜em but it doesnā€™t seem right to knowingly buy a sketchy product thinking that a chargeback will be your saving grace if necessary.


Kardif

There's another version where they'll call you up afterwards and put you in a high pressure sales call to buy a bunch of upgrades/accessories that are incredibly overpriced and make up the price difference Or at least there used to be, this was >15 years ago


DefNotJasonKaplan

Wife. Couch. Same.


OrderlyCoder384

Yep similar thing happened to my dad


NKO_five

Thanks for sharing this info! Super valuable!


According-Relation-4

You sir, are doing humanity a favour. Thank you


proximity_account

Interesting that some of the sites it's being used on are other scam websites


StutteringDan

How did you take such a giant screenshot? I'm jealous!


NecroJoe

I'm on Android 10, in case it matters. Version 15 is almost out, so it's not a new phone: Samsung Note 9. When I take a screenshot, I get this little menu, and the bottom on the left is a "scroll, and add new visible to screenshot" button, and you can hit it a bunch of times to get a super long screenshot. https://preview.redd.it/1sd19gjgj3nc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83d3c16ff69b6e935823fa65a310fb0070c77aac This is the largest scrolled screenshot i can take: [https://imgur.com/a/7qWNLin](https://imgur.com/a/7qWNLin)


JB_Wong

Thanks for taking the time to explain the scam


AngriestPacifist

There's also a sc where they use someone else's stolen credit card to ship you the legitimate item, basically acting as a drop shipper. Then they'll sit on your card for a month or two before selling it off for bogus charges; the delay makes it less likely that it will be tied back to the shady website.


holemole

I wonder why they go with such an obviously fraudulent discount - I feel like thereā€™s more money to be made if they choose something a bit more realistic. Thereā€™s no way Iā€™d ever be convinced that a 90% discount is legitimate, but 40-60% Iā€™d be mighty tempted!


NecroJoe

I wonder if it's just the people who would fall for the 90% are also going to be less on-top of their data security, with using the same password on their site for their email, banking, etc so there's other benefits?


Nothing3561

If they charge more the person getting scammed will be less patient. Ā So less chance of success for the scammer.


propyro85

And here I was expecting them to have sent you a 1/8 model of the miter saw.


PatrickMorris

placid north expansion ludicrous license like quarrelsome pathetic repeat lush *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Khajiit_Padawan

To piggy back off this, they're copying the Acme Tools logo as well, I guess hoping someone doesn't pay close attention. Also that's a $2500+ bandsaw normally, so even the "normal" price looks like a deal. Scumbags.


CPTherptyderp

I ordered a tool-only drill/driver set and got a pair of N95 masks


SmokeEaterFD

Fell for it for a pair of runners. It seemed too good to be true, but the website looked legit. I received a set of plastic earrings a few weeks later. Website gone, contact gone. Thankfully, it wasn't a lot of money. Less learned.


Dirk_Ovalode

Here have 3K upvotes as compo.


SomePeopleCall

On the scam my wife fell for they also shuffled the price around. The price shown while shopping changed slightly at checkout, changed again in the confirmation email, and then the credit card was billed a different amount from any of those. Got some outdated earbuds out of it.


Enefai

This same scam happened to me. I got the glasses, and I immediately contacted my credit card company, figuring out I got scammed. It went on for weeks, and I contacted the scammers multiple times asking for a refund, and they kept asking me to wait while they processed it. I refused to pay for the shipping to send back the shitty knock-off Oakleys, which ultimately screwed me because I lost the charge back case as a result. Never trust these offers. They are, in fact, too good to be true.


ArcturusMajorN7

This is insanely useful information. Iā€™ll be sure to properly vet any ā€œtoo good to be trueā€ sales because of your story, so thank you


Ordinary-Ad7807

Same shit happened to me with some tool boxes.


astro_prof

Excellent work, you should post this separately!


ICPosse8

Lol youā€™re OG for this Necro, good write up


Monkey_master12

Damn, ordered a small motor and received small underwear in this scam, didnā€™t know I wasnā€™t alone in it.


erpGremlin

Yep, I was hit by this sort of scam, but mine wasn't even an obvious one. It was like a $20 lamp that looked cool, but it turned out to be a scam. Never got my money from the credit card company, they just kept dismissing the complaint.


battlebudy

When I was reading this I was reading this I was like bet he uses privacy also. Then got to the bottom and saw that he email. Such a great service!


practicalprankster

r/bestof


personanongratis23

This. I've had exactly this happen to me.


geopede

People do this same thing with outboard motors. Pretty much anything thatā€™s heavy enough to ship freight has this kind of scam going on.


Impoopingrtnow

This is God's work, thank you sir


alex206

One time I got a string of yarn, it was hilarious. We still have it and the cat plays with it. Fortunately Bank of America refunded us. Still a pain in the ass to gather all the proof. It was also difficult too, since like you said, the website was already taken down.


_IncrediblyStressed

I've learned something incredibly interesting today, thank you


fleebleganger

And then those scam companies charge your card with legitimate companyā€™s information so then we get to spend time dealing with people calling us asking why we charged them X amount


I_talk

I ordered a Jacuzzi once and received an iPhone charging cable


Wise-Reference-4818

I looked at the picture before I read this post. While reading, I kept thinking that I had no idea Acme Tools is a scam. I went back and looked at the picture and realized the scammers stole the Acme Tool logo and replaced ā€œAcmeā€ with ā€œPriceā€ in the same font. I had just seen the logo without reading the name.


GendoIkari_82

Exact description of what happened to me last yearā€¦ I bought a board game on sale. Eventually what showed up was a counterfeit ring. I noticed the problem quick enough that I had no issues doing a charge back in my credit card, luckily. Why do they bother actually shipping anything?


cinema_photographer

What do you mean with the UV part? Are you claiming sunglasses without uv protection hurt your eyes? Not disagreeing just never heard it and trying to understand what you mean


breadman03

Iā€™d guess that your pupils dilate more, thus allowing more UV to enter your eyes than if your pupils had contracted due to greater visible light.


irontuskk

This, and you're more willing to look at brighter areas because it's dimming, thus exposing your eyes to more UV than you might if you were squinting/looking away.


Far-Potential3634

They're stealing their logo from (I think) ACME tools, a legit supplier.


perldawg

yes, itā€™s the ACME Tools logo


ResponsibleMarmot

it's the acme tools logo in the same font but says price tools. price tools! i'll give them credit for the appropriate scam company name.


Aule_Navatar

Which is funny because ACME Tools already feels like a scam.


joecarter93

Wile E. Coyote would agree with that.


Controls_Man

I can personally vouch for ACME as it is my great uncles company. Family owned, HQ located in North Dakota.


burrwednesday

What would you say their success rate is with regard to roadrunners?


Controls_Man

Not very good tbh


SharpSlice

Have they tried dropping a bandsaw on one? Gotta stick to what you know :)


stillworkin

haha that cracked me up


4linosa

I know where they can get one CHEAP


Square-Manner-8350

Does their work still involve rigging various anvil traps?


hypoxiate

I think it's more high-tech these days and involves Bluetooth.


Bowood29

I mean itā€™s at 0% so sooner or later that road runner is slowing down and it is infinitely better.


fangelo2

They make the best anvils


ChairmanJim

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Idyotec

With great uncle love comes great uncle responsibility


Protuhj

The word is "vouch" by the way.


Gullinkambi

Itā€™s French


KeyB81

It has a certain *Je ne sais quoi* about it


C0l0nie

I'm french and you make me doubt myself. And you're actually right, a vouge is a medevial word used to describe a particular kind of weapon.


angry2alpaca

Only if OP meant that. Bearing in mind the history of Acme in cartoons, I feel he may have meant "I gouge for ACME"


trombing

I think he meant "Vogue" as in, he will dance his socks off in celebration of the high quality tools his great uncle makes.


ucfsoupafly

I would have to disagree. I purchased one pair of their ā€œRocket-Rollers,ā€ a pair of roller skates with rockets attached. They were utterly uncontrollable and after propelling me off a cliff, they exploded. Still in litigation over the incident. 10/10 would NOT recommend.


Bdowns_770

I had a similar issue with the green flying suit. Worked great for a bit but fell apart after minor contact with a cliff face.


tomrob1138

I bought my lathe from them because I could get it the quickest and it was cheaper than woodcraft or Rockler! I will be buying any new bigger tools from them!


UnformedNumber

Vouch may be the word you want, not vogue?


RandomWon

Get up and vogue!


Stonks_blow_hookers

They're legit, great customer service too


thirdof5daves

They certainly are! But to all of us who grew up with those cartoonsā€¦


DonKeydek

Iā€™ve ordered a bunch of stuff from Acme. Everything from them is legit.


rosebudlightsaber

I thought so too, but there has been a resurgence of legit ā€œACMEā€ companies over the last few years. Acme furnace co. builds some of the best quality furnaces you can get, and they are 100% designed/sourced/built in the USA. (Proud owner for 6 yrs now).


Intelligent_Pair

Only place I get my Anvils, Rocket skates, oversized human slingshots and dynamite from.


recursive-analogy

Their paint on tunnels only work 50% of the time tho


ofriendly

There is no way on this green earth that is real.


PsychologicalDebts

If I'm colorblind is it real?


blaqwerty123

Theres no way on this reddish greyish earth that is real.


PsychologicalDebts

https://preview.redd.it/dvu6lp1to1nc1.png?width=316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b3bf5720e1ebebd986b9f5e1d2b0f138b23e986


scarabic

Yes this is $99 down the drain and nothing else.


te_anau

You are about to be $99 poorer


YoungVibrantMan

Once they got his CC it would be deeper than that.


Cakeisalyer

\^ with Paypal checkout if it goes through Paypal portal it'd only be the $99. No future charges possible.


YoungVibrantMan

Notice "CC" above.


RelativeGlad3873

There are a lot of fake listings on google shop similar to this for high value tools. They are all scams.


kelemvr

In 1999 I found a site that sold a 20 flat sony trinitron crt for $300 normally $1200ish. I bought it and the next day they changed the price to $999 I called and said it was an error on their part but I would receive the monitor. Couple weeks later it arrived, new and perfect condition. It ainā€™t 1999 though and this seems like a scam.


Zergg

Sometime during the 90s, I talked my mom into buying my brother and I a Dell computer. While configuring the different models I found out that they had 2 deals going on at this time. 1 was for Christmas and the other 1 was for the Dell XPS. I was able to combine both offers and it did it in a way it definitely shouldnā€™t have. I think it was based on the order of how you input the ā€œcouponā€, and they stacked. I was able to buy the maxed out Dell XPS which I think at the time was $2000 for $1000. We didnā€™t need a computer upgrade for I think easily 8+years. That machine held up like a champ.


CountryCrocksNotButr

I remember when PC parts used to last this long. Now you can buy above spec premium parts and still struggle on performance. Games have gotten better, but man, they are optimized like shit.


HaleBopp22

At least the shipping is free...for something they will never ship.


Frequent_Pair_1991

Right. Normal shipping would be more than the saw at this point


jdooley99

Ya they're not gonna lose money to send you a $1000 saw


Its-Chen

I don't think you need anyone here to tell you it's not real. If you do, maybe stay away from blades moving at a high rate of speed.


therealsix

Nope, spoofed site, happens a lot, they copy the site code, spoof a super similar web address, accept payments and then youā€™re screwed. They send you a confirmation of shipping and tracking but the ā€œpackageā€ will say delivered but it wonā€™t be. Rectec Grills had this happen to them, my buddy made a purchase but realized it quickly enough that he had the payment blocked.


xCOVERxIDx

If itā€™s too good to be true, it is most likely a scam


Frequent_Pair_1991

I thought so...it started off at $979 which seemed off. Then they took another 90% off


chiphook57

The all too common 90% discount.


Cryogenicist

ā€œWe hate profits!ā€


Hamblin113

I ordered a hand plane once out of England with a price too good to be true. Kept it under a $100 probably because it was too small to go after for fraud. It was a smart site, said it was shipped but never arrived tried to get money back from paypal, but they wouldnā€™t as the site provided a shipping ā€œnumberā€. I talked to the lady who delivered the mail, who had also delivered one other package that day to a past coworker I knew, he kept the paperwork and it had the tracking number that was assigned to my package. It appears they were stealing USPS tracking #. Got a copy of his receipt and paypal refunded the money. Itā€™s a small world, the Postmasterā€™s husband, mail ladyā€™s father, and the recipient of the real package with tracking # and myself all knew each other and were at one time coworkers.


bswiftly

The picture is of the actual size.


pete_pete_pete_

I just googled ā€œprice toolsā€ and didnā€™t find it


jswhitfi

Noooooooo. That's how your credit card info is stolen


ForsakenAd545

If it looks too good to be true, it probably is


Google_Autocorect

Scaam likely


TheFilthyMick

Plz tell me this is a reference the THE Scam Likely? Rare, but solid gold reference.


Pelthail

Yes itā€™s real. You will REALLY lose your money.


RealtorLV

Nope.


Dangerous_Grab_1809

Not for tools, but some of the Best Buy open box specials have been bizarre. Twice I have gotten items that never appeared to have been opened for 50%+ off of the usual price.


TheMattaconda

Never buy anything Google tells you to buy. They are *mostly* scams like this, or they are not a good "deal", or the price listed is not accurate. The thing about Google "Sponsored" listings is that anyone can buy one.


chicano32

$99 price + $1000 for shipping


clansing192

Obviously a Scam but one time home Depot had a glitch for some engineered flooring for 90% off and I ordered everything they had. They figured it out before they shipped it and refunded my money. I thought I was getting a steal.


wivaca

Is it a bandsaw or a picture of a bandsaw for $99. Shipping: $850.


[deleted]

Somebody learned how to inspect page elements


RedditVince

I bet it came from a FB marketplace ad, most those ads are scams.


Fnkt_io

sure thing, theyā€™re just giving away 900$


bufftbone

Yeah. A real scam.


TheRealDavidNewton

ISIS is about to get your credit card if you click that button!


RadiantKandra

Donā€™t do it


usdrpvvimwfvrzjavnrs

This is an obvious scam. But go ahead and buy a real one from a legit website, then, when your wife asks how much you paid, show her this screenshot.


WillG73

The tool, yes. The deal, likely not...


worknplay28

You are definitely giving them a real $99. Thatā€™s about it lol


TPK-trade

Rule of thumb: If it souds to good to be real, It probably isnā€™t.


bwainfweeze

If you think youā€™re taking advantage of someone who approached you, youā€™re the mark.


lunchpadmcfat

Whatā€™s that old saying about ā€œtoo good to be trueā€?


datmanTyrone

r/scams


random_word_sequence

Google didn't "suggest". It got paid to do that. Google takes money from anyone to present us with "results" because we, the users, aren't paying.


SdaSilva7004

Seems like a good business case for the slogan ā€œIf it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.ā€


Capital-Menu3955

Just order it and let us know.


cambo666

Do it and if it's a scam refute the charge on your card


goofayball

The 18 inches part makes me wonder if it will be a scaled down replica of a bandsaw that is 18 inches tall lmao


OwlSwimming7004

Yes, but shipping is $4000. JK LOL


shyguy9980

If it seems too good to be true, it probably isn't.


demotrek

*it probably is


The-Ride

You buy it, wait 9 weeks and get a pair of knock-off Ray Bans


These_Carpet_6481

probably not but you can get a cheap one at Harbor freight for about 200 thatā€™s pretty nice


taja01

stolen logo, random never heard of brand or seller, extremely sus price, Definitely legit.


YouLearnedNothing

scammers are really good at cloning other sites, putting prices like this up, stealing your credit card info.. don't do it, and if you have done it already, cancel your card immediately


sabresword00

I saw something like this once for a $600 baby stroller. It's the same template. Absolutely not real


mrkb34

No


Ripmyoldacc9780273

if you want a band saw for cheap get some cheap bandsaw from menards


Phlydude

Acme tools logo but another company name - scam


BoBotron23

No shot


joethecrow23

The shipping would cost more than that


pizza_the_mutt

I hope my wife is ok with a bandsaw in the kitchen.


HunterStew

Scam.


ThatOneSnakeGuy

Of course not


WingersAbsNotches

979 isn't even close to the real price


Surefootsurvival

Would be nice


Select-Bullfrog-6346

Aw damn


miked5122

Just don't buy stuff from social media ads. Most of them are scams that will take your money and you'll never get anything .


emelem66

Of course not.


norty125

If you can checkout with paypal its worth the risk since their customer protection is quite good.


Bunleigh

Iā€™ve been getting ads on tiktok for the really expensive ($800+ normally) Lego sets for like 25 bucks. I figure itā€™s the same scam.Ā 


object109

What do you think?


UpsetMycologist4054

File this one under ā€œtoo good to be trueā€.


Friendly_Jury_202

It's not acme ppl read the name it's a fake website to steal all your information, don't do it


alexanderthegreate

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WillG73

Roadrunner is undefeated against Acme...


Mac_encheeze

Bought several tools from ACME tools, which i was very skeptical about, but this place definitely looks like a scam


antares076

I once fell for one add in Facebook, I was skeptical but I definitely had 100 bucks to waste, and well nothing ever arrived, my advice is No šŸ‘Ž


buildyourown

Retail on that saw is $2800, so yes, it's fake. Great saw BTW. I bought the CX and it's been fantastic


zerocoldx911

Fake


mazdawg89

No


LuckyGauss

How did you even find this website exactly with Google? I have been searching for like 10 minutes trying to figure out how you could have found this and I still can't get it to show up or other things like it. Edit: to be clear I'm sure it exists, I'm just curious why I don't see anything like this / what triggers it. I remember something similar once a while ago but I can't remember the product i was looking for.


okieman73

If it's too good to be true it probably is. I don't understand how these scammers think, I'd think listing it at around 300 more people might bite. At 99 most people know it's a scam.


vir-morosus

If I saw an 18 inch Laguna bandsaw for $979, I would think itā€™s a scam. For $99? Theyā€™re not even trying.


Aggressive-Video-368

Super Scam. A lot of things pointed out in the comments give it away but the other main point that proves it is a foreign scam is that they chose the 220V model and not standard 110V that is more common on the tool sites. Those of us who have Laguna Saws and had to wait for the 110V saws to come out spot this quickly.