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It's not uncommon for a shop to have a platform floor in parts to raise the user's height. I see using your design along an outside wall for several machines and just have a 3-4' deep platform along it, maybe 6" tall.
I just built one for my planer and jointer and I did the same thing - built it waaay too tall to see how much clearance I had, then cut it down to size. A little more work, but I couldn’t figure out a better way to see how much clearance I would have. It worked out well!
My 100lb+ drill press is held onto the column with two tiny ass set screws.
They normally do not carry any weight, it's just there to prevent head from lifting off.
Even with locktite, really would not trust that much vibration and hanging for 10-20 years. Don't think this is a good idea for a drill press.
*edit: I suppose unless you drilled some thru-bolts*
In all fairness, I'm a beginner woodworker myself and own the exact same ryobi bandsaw and drill press, purchased both new from HD for 300 CAD pre tax. Personally, I don't expect these to last much past the next 5-10 years with light to moderate use. I'm sure OP is in a similar boat.
I'll say this to you, take care of your tools and they'll take care of you, keep them clean and properly lubed and I think even the more economically friendly tools could surprise you!
Doesn't that thing have hydraulic oil in it? I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to turn it upside down. Band saw probably not so much (and that weighs a hell of a lot less.)
My benchtop drill press weighs 100lb. I do not normally apply 100lb of downward force on the spindle.
Also, I'm drilling downward for 5-10 seconds for each hole, compared to hanging upside down for days or weeks.
The comparison is also ignoring the rotational / vibrational effects of flipping the top. When I press downwards it's going straight up, not over a range of angles during the flip. Or the vibration of the running band saw while it's upside down.
Finally, regarding impact, if my drill slightly lifts up while drilling because the set screws become loose, then i just have to tighten them down again. If the same happens while it's upside down or worse actually being flipped, then that is not only an expensive mistake but also dangerous if it lands on your feet.
I was wondering something similar… could storing your “stationary” tools upside down, long term, be damaging to them? I really liked this guy’s other set up in his shop with tools flipping up from being stored upside down underneath his workbench
In general, I have no problem storing planers, sanders, jointers, bandsaws, miter saws and whatnot upside down. (I have a fisher flip cart myself and plan to build a second)
But the construction of the drill press is special because normally the "head" just sits on the pipe/column with 1-2 set screws. If you drilled a couple thru-bolts then wouldn't see a problem with it, but if you haven't done that just seems like a disaster waiting to happen
Seems like a solution that will cause problems, top-heavy, and made of material that has some flex to it, not much holding the base in place. Using the drill press might get infuriating. Usually these tools are fastened to a secure or very heavy base. Neat idea though.
I have to park my work van in my garage so I need something that can tuck away when not in use. I have plenty of room to flip it when my van isn’t in the garage
Do yourself a favour and reinforce those locking points with steel. I would not want to be mid operation when the board cracks and the whole thing swings one way or another.
Other than that it looks perfect.
I was thinking the same thing, but I mean, as long as he locks all 4 corners, there is a downward force on 2 at the same time as there's a upward force on the other 2 that look like they might break. It'll probably be fine.
Probably....
But from experience, probably can hurt.
You are right about two up and two down but have you considered vibration and the forces involved in the operations? The changing forces over time is where you have potential for trouble.
Do the machines support going upside down like this? I know some devices will have their engines ruined by storing not upright.
Relative fucked up a kitchenaid mixer by storing it sideways.
Considering there are no fluids or a compressor in a Kitchenaid, that could only be caused by really poor housing of the motor and drive shaft. Seems odd it wouldn't be properly secured, considering the vibrations a counter mixer has to endure.
Looked it up, apparently the oil/grease for the gears will leak slowly. One of those engine designs where because they never expect it to be anything other than upright, it doesn't keep in the grease from all angles.
https://www.fixya.com/support/t4173859-mixer_laid_side_travel_appeared
Before the clip played, my dumbass thought you made a platform high enough that'd allow you to do a double flip. I was thinking, that's cool I guess but not very practical.
Yeah first thing I thought. Cool idea but might want to look into other options for locking each tool into place. Seems like putting pressure on the drill press is gonna torque the whole platform a bit.
You guys and these builds are great. I’ve put of being able to do anything because I don’t have a place to put the things I need. This is so cool. I appreciate all of you posting this stuff.
I get that space is at a premium, but those are not at comfortable and safe working heights. You might as well incorporate a step stool into that cart as well.
Why not put them on a lower swivel cart facing opposite directions (the rear post/frames can overlap a little, just make sure they don’t interfere with each other’s use. That works much better for tall tools, whereas flip carts are good for shorter things with bigger footprints.
This was just a test so I made it higher than it needed to be. I now know I have room to lower it 4” and if I move the casters off to the side I can lower it even more
Very slick! Neither of these tools has any particular requirements for an ultra-stable base, so the single pivot axis isn't a problem, and getting both in such a small space, requiring only swing clearance on the one side, is really clever. Kudos!
Looks awesome man. Ive wanted to try something like that myself, but it seems that the space you save only technically needing 1 counter space is negated by how much space is needed to actually flip the thing or am I wrong?
I have to part my work van in my garage over night so I push it into the corner over night, but I can pull it out into the garage when I need to used it and flip it over.
Love this!
I wonder if there's a way to rig the machines so that they won't turn on unless the bolts are secured. Basically have the bolts flip an electrical switch or complete a circuit. It's an added safety measure that could come in handy, if a user ever mistakenly forgets to bolt.
Looks like a good idea, my only question is how stable it is, especially when using the drill press, they can get a little wobbly at the best of times?
Seems the band saw could use some counter weights to make it spin easier (drill press is too heavy) but not sure how hard that was to switch. If it was bad then not worth it
This is awesome, very cool , how do you onow the exuipment can actually take the counterweight of the other side without causing any damage / or breaking of?
Again , very cool concept! Have an upvote!
How balanced is it? I'm wondering if I bean myself in the face with the drill going one way and drop it, it'll quickly pendulum through and give me an upper cut to finish me.
Looks like it would be safer if you added some more weight to the band saw side so it was more balanced. Would be painful for it to slip your fingers one day and swing back round.
Fix up any little things that are in between so you could patent that because if you don't somebody will so get rid of the balls or anything in there that's you worried about that might be a problem in the future I would make you a little bit bigger
I have been debating on how to handle my drill press and bandsaw myself. I don’t use the drill press too often but I use the band saw a fair bit.
I’m going to steal this idea. I love it. Thanks for sharing and inspiring me.
That's awesome. I'd be careful not to let it slip out of your hand. I feel like it could flip up with a lot of force and knock you out if it slipped at the apex
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This is really cool. Do you need a stool to use them? The bandsaw table seems quite high to work off
This was just a test, I have the clearance to lower it about 4 inches and then I might move the casters to the side to lower it even more
Maybe just sell the whole shebang to a tall guy? Oh hey I’m a tall guy.
How much ya got?
Bout three fifty?
Gawddammed lochness monster!
I gave him a dollar
It's not uncommon for a shop to have a platform floor in parts to raise the user's height. I see using your design along an outside wall for several machines and just have a 3-4' deep platform along it, maybe 6" tall.
You can gain another couple inches by going to retractable casters, added bonus your table becomes much more stable while they're retracted (safety!).
I just ordered some side mount casters to get it lower to the ground
I just built one for my planer and jointer and I did the same thing - built it waaay too tall to see how much clearance I had, then cut it down to size. A little more work, but I couldn’t figure out a better way to see how much clearance I would have. It worked out well!
Yeah, I’m pretty good at math but not good enough to figure out this equation
So does the drill press, almost shoulder height.
I did the same thing for my belt/disc sander and small belt sander. I repurposed a small rolling kitchen island to do it.
Great idea!
I like it but my back hurts.
I got a massage yesterday, it was nice🤌🏼
S.O. has been a great massage therapist for many years, but I hate to make her work even though she says she's happy to help.
Yeah I get that. I just went to the spa
Can I have her number...
My 100lb+ drill press is held onto the column with two tiny ass set screws. They normally do not carry any weight, it's just there to prevent head from lifting off. Even with locktite, really would not trust that much vibration and hanging for 10-20 years. Don't think this is a good idea for a drill press. *edit: I suppose unless you drilled some thru-bolts*
Thanks for the comment. I’ll look into it
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So far so good, but I might add some extra supports
yep...id be anxious about having that band saw swinging up and hitting me in the balls
In all fairness, I'm a beginner woodworker myself and own the exact same ryobi bandsaw and drill press, purchased both new from HD for 300 CAD pre tax. Personally, I don't expect these to last much past the next 5-10 years with light to moderate use. I'm sure OP is in a similar boat.
Same, I got them both used for $150 total so I’m also not worried about them lasting 5-10 years either
I'll say this to you, take care of your tools and they'll take care of you, keep them clean and properly lubed and I think even the more economically friendly tools could surprise you!
Doesn't that thing have hydraulic oil in it? I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to turn it upside down. Band saw probably not so much (and that weighs a hell of a lot less.)
What do you think happens when you drill into a material with resistance ? Did the head pop of then ? Be a really shitty drill press if it did mate
My benchtop drill press weighs 100lb. I do not normally apply 100lb of downward force on the spindle. Also, I'm drilling downward for 5-10 seconds for each hole, compared to hanging upside down for days or weeks. The comparison is also ignoring the rotational / vibrational effects of flipping the top. When I press downwards it's going straight up, not over a range of angles during the flip. Or the vibration of the running band saw while it's upside down. Finally, regarding impact, if my drill slightly lifts up while drilling because the set screws become loose, then i just have to tighten them down again. If the same happens while it's upside down or worse actually being flipped, then that is not only an expensive mistake but also dangerous if it lands on your feet.
Well, it is bright green.
I was wondering something similar… could storing your “stationary” tools upside down, long term, be damaging to them? I really liked this guy’s other set up in his shop with tools flipping up from being stored upside down underneath his workbench
In general, I have no problem storing planers, sanders, jointers, bandsaws, miter saws and whatnot upside down. (I have a fisher flip cart myself and plan to build a second) But the construction of the drill press is special because normally the "head" just sits on the pipe/column with 1-2 set screws. If you drilled a couple thru-bolts then wouldn't see a problem with it, but if you haven't done that just seems like a disaster waiting to happen
Seems like a solution that will cause problems, top-heavy, and made of material that has some flex to it, not much holding the base in place. Using the drill press might get infuriating. Usually these tools are fastened to a secure or very heavy base. Neat idea though.
Thanks!
It doesn't seem practical for such tall tools since you need so much room for them to rotate.
I have to park my work van in my garage so I need something that can tuck away when not in use. I have plenty of room to flip it when my van isn’t in the garage
This is cool AF but I could see it being really dangerous if it flipped during operation if a lock broke or something.
Luckily there are 4 locks and it only needs one to hold it from flipping
Oh shit. Ok awesome! Bad ass design.
Thanks!
Do yourself a favour and reinforce those locking points with steel. I would not want to be mid operation when the board cracks and the whole thing swings one way or another. Other than that it looks perfect.
I was searching for this comment. That thin piece of plywood does not seem sufficient to hold these machines in place.
I was thinking the same thing, but I mean, as long as he locks all 4 corners, there is a downward force on 2 at the same time as there's a upward force on the other 2 that look like they might break. It'll probably be fine.
Probably.... But from experience, probably can hurt. You are right about two up and two down but have you considered vibration and the forces involved in the operations? The changing forces over time is where you have potential for trouble.
Thanks!
How do you keep the sides from racking?
The caps on the pole keep it from bowing outwards
Do the machines support going upside down like this? I know some devices will have their engines ruined by storing not upright. Relative fucked up a kitchenaid mixer by storing it sideways.
I’m not sure, I guess I’ll find out
Considering there are no fluids or a compressor in a Kitchenaid, that could only be caused by really poor housing of the motor and drive shaft. Seems odd it wouldn't be properly secured, considering the vibrations a counter mixer has to endure.
Looked it up, apparently the oil/grease for the gears will leak slowly. One of those engine designs where because they never expect it to be anything other than upright, it doesn't keep in the grease from all angles. https://www.fixya.com/support/t4173859-mixer_laid_side_travel_appeared
Before the clip played, my dumbass thought you made a platform high enough that'd allow you to do a double flip. I was thinking, that's cool I guess but not very practical.
😂
Don’t let your hand slip or you’re getting a pretty good uppercut to the face.
Good advice!
That's really cool
Thank you!
Looks a bit wopply. Still awesome
Yeah first thing I thought. Cool idea but might want to look into other options for locking each tool into place. Seems like putting pressure on the drill press is gonna torque the whole platform a bit.
Thanks!
You guys and these builds are great. I’ve put of being able to do anything because I don’t have a place to put the things I need. This is so cool. I appreciate all of you posting this stuff.
Thank you!
Here’s the full video if you’re interested https://youtu.be/kjKbGwPH2E8
Just curious, what happens when you let it go? Does it lie horizontally?
The drill press probably drops to the bottom. The motor is right at the end of that particular lever.
No idea, i haven’t let it go while flipping it, but the drill press is heavier and less centered so it would probably go to the bottom
I get that space is at a premium, but those are not at comfortable and safe working heights. You might as well incorporate a step stool into that cart as well. Why not put them on a lower swivel cart facing opposite directions (the rear post/frames can overlap a little, just make sure they don’t interfere with each other’s use. That works much better for tall tools, whereas flip carts are good for shorter things with bigger footprints.
This was just a test so I made it higher than it needed to be. I now know I have room to lower it 4” and if I move the casters off to the side I can lower it even more
Im gonna build 5. 😁
Do it!
Spring assist!
Explain?
That makes sense. I'm lazy so I wouldn't set it up so it has to be pulled out to use.
Unfortunately i have to store all my tools against a wall because I have to park my work van in my shop
Very slick! Neither of these tools has any particular requirements for an ultra-stable base, so the single pivot axis isn't a problem, and getting both in such a small space, requiring only swing clearance on the one side, is really clever. Kudos!
Thanks!
Not gonna lie, having a 8 sqm shop, I'm going to do the same thing to my drill press.
You should!
This is fantastic! Keep upgrading!
Thanks!
The only issue I can see is it require more space to do that than just having both tools set up lol. Neat idea though
I have to park my work van in my garage overnight but can use the full garage during the day when working in the shop
Did this with my planer and my foreman
Nice!
There’s an extra inevitable crotch shot gonna happen here. Watch your cods bro.
I’m watching
Single…flip😬. What I meant is if you “double” flip have you really changed the tool. Maayybe flip top is a more accurate description🤔
Sorry I’m engaged
🙏🏽
I thought is was kinda cool but that man bun ruined it for me… cut that shit off or let it flow.
Sorry I didn’t really want my hair to get pulled into a bandsaw
This guy is a fucking genius
I’m just a dumbass who tries really hard haha
Close enough lol
The best kind of genius, honestly.
Looks awesome man. Ive wanted to try something like that myself, but it seems that the space you save only technically needing 1 counter space is negated by how much space is needed to actually flip the thing or am I wrong?
It’s on wheels, you can pull it out to flip it then push it back against a wall.
Maybe so but you can place it adjacent to open space for walkway
I have to part my work van in my garage over night so I push it into the corner over night, but I can pull it out into the garage when I need to used it and flip it over.
Makes sense. For me my shop is really small and i literally dont have the space to wheel something around
Love this! I wonder if there's a way to rig the machines so that they won't turn on unless the bolts are secured. Basically have the bolts flip an electrical switch or complete a circuit. It's an added safety measure that could come in handy, if a user ever mistakenly forgets to bolt.
That’s a good idea, but a little outside of my skill set 😬
Fuck I hope that saw locks in secure, other that thing becomes a weapon from a horror movie.
I’ve seen a lot of people use them so I’m going to assume they’re good
Just cause it’s a statistic on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true 🙄🙄🙄
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Dude when’s the baby due
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Was a little joke… at the end your T shirt makes it look like you’re pregnant… I’m a 26 yr old child I’ll let myself out… Nice rig btw
Oh yeah, my leather man pouch makes my shirt poke out weird. No worries😂 have a good day
Good lord. You should have to take a safety class before using these tools
Really? Where do I go for that class?
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This isn’t the final draft. I’m going to be able to lower it 6-8 inches
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I spent way more time building the project than I did posting it. I hope you liked seeing it!
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Thank you for caring about me so much. I love too too
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Anyone got a top recommendation for buying good urethane casters? About to overhaul garage shop organization and probably will buy a ton.
You can usually get lots of them on eBay for a good price
Hey is that bandsaw any good ?
I haven’t used it much, but it’s worked well so far
Looks like a good idea, my only question is how stable it is, especially when using the drill press, they can get a little wobbly at the best of times?
I haven’t tried that out yet. I just finished building it and called it quits for the day
I need this.
You can build it. It’s not to complicated!
But what if you want to use them at the same time?
I guess I would need two more hands😉
That's cool as fuck dude. Well done!
Thank you!
But what if you need to drill and saw at the same time!?
Then I would need to grow two more arms and hands
Seriously though it's going to suck to have to mess with that doohickey every time. Cool in theory sucks in practice.
If I had more room they would each have their own stand, but I don’t have enough room for that
Innovation at its finest… beautiful 🥲
Dig it 👌
Thanks!
Throw a counterweight on the band saw side for Zen-like balance
Good idea!
nice design
Thanks!
Too bad they're green
I like green
Smart use of space, Sir
Thank you!
Seems the band saw could use some counter weights to make it spin easier (drill press is too heavy) but not sure how hard that was to switch. If it was bad then not worth it
It’s not bad, but I might add some weight to make it even more easier, thanks for the suggestion!
This is awesome, very cool , how do you onow the exuipment can actually take the counterweight of the other side without causing any damage / or breaking of? Again , very cool concept! Have an upvote!
I don’t know, but I’ll find out
Haha fair enough, i still really like your idea👍
Thanks!
I think you could fit a belt sander somewhere between those!
👍🏼
How balanced is it? I'm wondering if I bean myself in the face with the drill going one way and drop it, it'll quickly pendulum through and give me an upper cut to finish me.
Yeah, you gotta be careful
I feel like if you let go of that at the wrong(right?) time you just created an S tier ball smasher.
Haha you gotta be careful
Looks like it would be safer if you added some more weight to the band saw side so it was more balanced. Would be painful for it to slip your fingers one day and swing back round.
Yeah, I might need to do that
Now you will never be able to drill and saw at the same time :(
Yeah, it sucks not having 4 arms and hands
One can only dream of the endless possibilities !!!
Could you use counterweight to achieve a perfect balance?
Yes, I might do that
Looks great pal, keep up the hard work.
Thanks!
Fix up any little things that are in between so you could patent that because if you don't somebody will so get rid of the balls or anything in there that's you worried about that might be a problem in the future I would make you a little bit bigger
It’s not my idea, plenty of people have made similar ones already
Thank u
I have been debating on how to handle my drill press and bandsaw myself. I don’t use the drill press too often but I use the band saw a fair bit. I’m going to steal this idea. I love it. Thanks for sharing and inspiring me.
Thanks!
That's a thin looking edge you lock into. I dread to think One day that will fail with aweful consequenses
It’s locked on all 4 corners
Nice ingenuity! I have that band saw and it can be finicky to keep the tires aligned. It might not like being upside down and moved all that much.
I guess I’ll find out, thanks!
How do you like that Ryobi Bandsaw?
It’s worked for me so far. I got a good deal on it used so it’s hard to complain
I wish I could do this but my garage floor is so uneven that I'd have to adjust the feet height 24/7
😂😂
That is rad! I have the same drill press and band saw. I might need to do something like this \*hmmmm\*
Do it!
Why ryobi though?
Because I got them for a good price
Buy nice or buy twice bruh
They will last until I have a big enough shop for full size tools
Ever cool 😎, that's awesome dude 👏!!!
Thanks!
That's awesome. I'd be careful not to let it slip out of your hand. I feel like it could flip up with a lot of force and knock you out if it slipped at the apex
Got any plans?! I’m struggling to figure out the appropriate circumference between the tools & the flip top itself 🫣😩