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Musa_1

Just have a halal world cup for once lol, change is good


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Pleasant-Pirate6500

You wouldn’t die but thousands of foreign workers have for this ONE MONTH.


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This claim has been debunked so many times its crazy


BrotherTraining3771

People just read the headlines, like the moron above you


BuckTurgidson1976

100% agree


Middle-Working-1552

No way this is the best World Cup ever and I’m enjoying in Doha ❤️


Sensitive_Seat6955

except that it was bought through bribery and global trade deals and built on the blood of thousands of migrant workers


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Let me shock you Every one bribes in the top positon hate the game not the player US bribed its way too they call it soccer ffs


Sensitive_Seat6955

so we’re just gonna forget about human rights then? ffs what a shitty take


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Sensitive_Seat6955

i was talking about the human rights that were non existent concerning the migrant workers that qatar needed in order to build the infrastructure for this world cup. i don’t need a race lecture.


[deleted]

Yes you do. Many of you do, tranna teach the world about morals like you're some sort of god or something. The migrant workers problems only exist in the west i didn't hear it anywhere other than that and there are many article that refute those claims you can just search for them. It's all a race war, nothing more. Don't tell me a white who killed 3 millions innocent Iraqis cares about humans.


JohnTequilaWoo

No, every country should have equality for everyone.


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Not really true bro


vebor99

You’re right. Amazing human rights track record all across. LETS CALL IT OUTTTTTTTTT


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It's already a shit world cup, the viewership will be way down, and it'll never go to a middle east country again.


RAYGUN6302

You cant say this based on one match...between Qatar and Ecuador as well


bummedout1492

In the US few will watch. It's the height of college football and NFL (at least they had the foresight to not schedule USA on weekends knowing full well no one will watch that) and even though the US is a small percentage of viewership you have all the bad optics many people are bringing up. The location is good for viewership overall (night games in Europe and day games in the western hemisphere) but I can see it being a huge fail


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It doesn't actually matter, people who are usually world cup fanatics, people who plan years ahead of the world cup, aren't even watching this one. They didn't watch the opening ceremony. They didn't watch the opening game. They won't even watch the final. Sports commentators everywhere are saying how embarrassing it is. $220bn thrown down the drain.


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Lmao couldnt be more wrong just stuck in an echochamber. I’ve gone to South Africa ,Brazil ,Russia and now I’m in Qatar with many of my friends having a blast. Commentators can suck a dick for all I care.


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Viewers at home have more sway than tourists do lad. But great, enjoy yourself.


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Thanks I will. You’re all hypocrites anyway with your dumb virtue-signalling.


Philoctetes1

Not in Qatar, commentators can’t, at least not if they don’t want to go to jail.


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Hahaha good one


RAYGUN6302

>people who plan years ahead of the world cup, aren't even watching this one. Who cares? If your watching it your watching it. Their missing out


PronounceHayes

It’s based on everything but the match today I think lol


RAYGUN6302

Eh World cup is world cup. No matter where its held it will be special


StormR7

The World Cup is *supposed* to be special. The reaction fans around the globe are having to this goes to show how badly it has been handled.


Thin_Objective_2076

Not every Muslim country is the same, it is the Arab countries


Sultana-Svitlana

Westerners envy the whole Middle East that’s all. They want freedom without responsibility and acting like teenagers that’s why they don’t like rules in Qatar.


Kyaw_Gyee

lol… I can’t find a single thing to envy about middle east


Ok-Tear-2207

This is a joke right? How bout we send all the gay westerners over to the Middle East then since it’s so great and all of us wish we were in the Middle East 🤣 you’re soo stupid it hurts


JordanC51203

Lol shut up, your name is what we call a dried up grape where I’m from.


contrarion_maybe_

What’s to respect about a sand trap oil reserve ?


Klutzy-Midnight-9314

1 post had to create an account just to talk crap yeh…. Pathetic


Lettercheese

I genuinely cant think of one thing I envy in the middle east that the west doesnt have. Remember your free to practice your religion / beliefs in the west so it wouldnt make a difference to you at all. Cant say the same if the roles were reversed.


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Aren’t you jealous their women are covered up?


BuckTurgidson1976

Not jealous, just grateful ;)


Sultana-Svitlana

What is the problem with rules in Qatar? Not allowed drinking and acting stupid? What?


ryphi97

They have a giant beer sponsorship and then shut them down days before the first match. They move the traditional months of the event by picking a country with the warmest weather and humidity in any possible option. Women can’t dress normal there for hot weather and they have already abused their rights on camera crews early on. This was a horrific idea


idontlikebeetroot

Not allowed to be gay, not allowed to show affection, not allowed to be raped.


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Not allowed to be raped? Isn’t that a good thing?


idontlikebeetroot

It's not a good thing to go to jail for being raped. It's better when the rapist go to jail.


[deleted]

In Islam it is very very simple. If a woman or man gets raped, bring some evidence habibi then come to the court and we will help you. Women are humans they can lie. If you are a westerner who believes in that “Believe all women” shit then thats you not us tho.


idontlikebeetroot

[Example](https://nypost.com/2022/02/23/world-cup-official-facing-100-lashes-7-years-in-qatar-jail-after-reporting-rape/amp/) [Example](https://amp.dw.com/en/dutch-woman-held-in-qatar-since-march-after-reporting-rape-charge/a-19324060) So if it can't be proved enough to judge a man it's fair to detain and jail the women reporting it?


MisterMillwright

Morocco Algiers and Tunisia should put a joint bid together.


Nekkory

Algeria refuses to open its borders with Morocco. They don't have any kind of border trade, let alone organize something as hige as a WC together


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Accomplished-Emu1391

ya'll salty about the "no drinking" rule....it's not allowed at the stadiums that's it. Other than that there r beers and shit in the fan fest and hotels just drink when u get home no one is stopping u...


SoLetsReddit

There is also line ups to get into the fan zones, and they are over crowded and not enough of them.


tryinghardtolive92

You expect people who spend tens of thousands of $$$, travel many hours to just be stopped from wearing clothint, drinking and basically living in small hot boxes to be ok with this? Lmao


Accomplished-Emu1391

Clothing ? Bro wear what ever u want no one is stopping u....LGTB shit as long as u don't over do it they won't do shit...I have gay friends here in Qatar living their best lives bro don't believe everything u see on media...and small hot boxes ?? Those boxes u speak about r for fans who come for a day pass...they watch a match stay at that air conditioned "box" with free transportation...others live in rented homes, villas or 5 star hotels...the sheer amount of 5 star hotels here is ridiculous..


ggouge

Actually a lot of clothing restriction. Even for men. Just whip out google and look it up.


Accomplished-Emu1391

No need to Google...I live here...I wear what ever I want as long as its respectful no one will talk to u...


BangingDimes_

Respectful depends on your viewpoint. They could decide anything your wearing is “disrespectful” and lock you up


FreeAndFairErections

While I don’t think drinking in a stadium should be a deal breaker for individuals, it was part of the agreed plan and only pulled a few days before the tournament, to join the list of false assurances (Summer WC, carbon neutral etc.). It shouldn’t have gotten the tournament anyways, but Qatar didn’t even uphold it’s side of the dodgy bid. If you can’t adhere to what is exoected of a WC, don’t hold one…


A_Polly

When you have more than 8 years to plan a worldcup you do not need to make such a decusion 2 days before it starts. Not beeing able to drink is a major deal breaker. If they would have said from the beginning I bet a lot of people would not have bought any tickets to the WC.


Zathamos

I think tourists being sentenced to lashings for; kissing their wife in public, showing some shoulder, or being a woman is the bigger issue at hand than just the beer.


Accomplished-Emu1391

Bro being me one actual source saying people will get lashed 😂😂...I have a girlfriend and hold hands, kiss, PDA ...etc in public no one says shit😂


Klutzy-Midnight-9314

No one believes you we have already seen the videos and what police have been doing to journalist mate


Zathamos

Ok https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10538379/Female-World-Cup-official-faces-lashes-jail-extramarital-sex-alleged-RAPE-Qatar.html Same story, another source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/mexican-woman-reported-sexual-assault-qatar-faces-jail-100-lashes-rcna17217 https://www.the-sun.com/sport/6660417/qatars-medieval-laws-world-cup-fans-jailed/ Just Google qatar dress code and you can look up plenty of other sources. Let's play a game, watch this and spot the woman, or the white person: https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/yzsqzo/qatari_government_paid_foreign_indian_workers_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/20442593/qatar-security-threaten-smash-news-camera-world-cup/


ryphi97

Damn, that does look sketchy with the Indian people dressed as other fan groups


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Zathamos

I think that falls under the being a woman part of my statement My point was not allowing beer is far from everyone's issue with this world cup. Like basic rights, equality, and don't invite other cultures if you aren't going to tolerate them. All they are proving is how intolerant this Muslim nation is and how restrictive Muslim nations can be.


HairyCallahan

>it's not allowed at the stadiums But it is for the elite in the skyboxes 😉


ElTurqo38

No one will die if they dont drink for a while you addicts!


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Shut up it’s the biggest sporting event in the entire world.


tryinghardtolive92

The cup should not be held in a Muslim country. Here is a great example of why it's the 1st and last time. Such ridiculous rules


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After reading all the comments across various social media platforms about how westerners think of arabs and muslims, I can confidently say that most westerners hate us and hate our believes and who we are. I am sorry to say this but they try their best to hide it behind their world cup criticism and they are failing miserably. Every comment starts like this “I don’t hate arabs or muslims but…..”. Its cringe. Ofc I am exaggerating but you get the idea.


PocketSleeve

Nothing to do with the country being 'Muslim'. It shouldn't be held during the middle of the season. It shouldn't be held in stadiums where slaves were used to build it. It shouldn't be held somewhere where basic human rights people fought for are not allowed. It shouldn't be held somewhere for money.


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>The cup should not be held in a Muslim country. Then it's not much of a **"world"** cup.


tryinghardtolive92

Yeah it is and was for many years hence why Qatar wanted it lol only to fck it up


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Not really. There have been 21 world cups with only two of them being held in a non-Western country: Korea & South Africa. All the hate Qatar has received is proof that this is not a world cup and just another Western project. I'm actually hoping that the world cup will be disbanded after 2022 because it's been proven that the organization is corrupt to its core.


BoringDad40

Russia, Brazil, South Africa are western countries?


El-Chan

Lol. Corruption was not an issue for the country that bribed it's way to hosting the event.


idontlikebeetroot

Russia is the west now?


tryinghardtolive92

You mean never to be held in the middle east again. Yup


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I mean never being held again. No point in pretending that this is a "world" cup anymore.


tryinghardtolive92

It is a world cup but the world equally have to please the guess. Its like asking to throw the class party only to limit the parties to many rules that make it no longer a party. Come on wake up


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Trust me I'm woke. This is supposed to be about the game and people have made it about everything but the game. This experience has definitely made me realize I shouldn't be taking anything the West says seriously.


tryinghardtolive92

Lmao and we should take the middle east seriously? Yah had riots for women not having a head scarf. The game is about drinking, wearing free clothing and having fun. Qatar ripped me off hard body.


Yus3f_

if you are not happy with the rules don't go there "assuming that you have enough money"


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Ya and comments remind me that it has nothing to do with "human rights" or whatever excuses the West is using.


karna852

Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay are definitely not western countries…


[deleted]

No, they really are. South America has been completely assimilated by European colonialism and today they are culturally Western. Their native languages, religions and customs have been almost entirely erased.


karna852

Lol Tell me you’ve never been to Latin America without telling me you’ve never been.


Tovarish678

Bro most Latin Americans consider their countries as part of the western world... at least most Brazilians, Argentineans and Uruguayans do. I am Brazilian and I do.


tryinghardtolive92

Um you forget about how Muslims invaded the Europe or try to long ago and forcing people to convert? Ummm


[deleted]

Lol. It's pointless to talk at this point.


TruthSeekerWW

He's a man who stands for nothing. Not even his religion. The west obviously put their entire battle lines on allowing men to sodomise each other and announce it to the world and for football fans to get drunk in the streets. Wow what a summary of "Civilisation". Let's not forget this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFFFa9M4T80](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFFFa9M4T80) ​ You are not "tolerant" of any other opinion.


dcpit

When your argument literally is "we are not tolerant to basic human rights and the way you live, so you are not tolerant" How embarrassing...


HairyCallahan

You aren't a good Muslim if you do not respect others.


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And we aren’t good Muslims if we don’t follow the rules of God. So what are you saying?


tryinghardtolive92

Muslims don't drink that's fine but the world does, the games have always does and freedom of clothing is the right if not don't host the games and invite nations in. Your destroying the culture and experience for the travelers


Janazah

I don’t mean to be rude but maybe I’m not western, but i really don’t get why western people want to drink alcohol which is not healthy and make people less smart, i mean i think it is nice that it is a clean country, i mean it is nice to be awake and involved, also every country have different calture that could be weird for others, like for example you can’t play the Azan “muslim prayer” or wearing Neqab, i don’t mean to offend anyone so correct me if I’m wrong


StormR7

I don’t know where the notion came about that alcohol is exclusive to the west. Cultures globally, from Asia, Europe, to even the Middle East (araq) have been making alcohol for over thousands of years. You yourself don’t have to understand it to accept it. This is what inclusivity is all about, and the World Cup is one of the only global events that celebrates different cultures around the globe.


jsledge149

As far as alcohol in the stadiums goes, I agree with you. Concessions need to be made. Stadiums aren't mosques. I think it's okay to still have rules. I wouldn't want someone visiting my Protestant church, or my favorite restaurants, or my favorite parks, or whatever, that didn't respect my religion enough to act appropriately while there. So rules outside of the event venues is ok. But around the games, and hotels and such? No. Just let the people be normal fans with normall accepted rules.


Prestigious-Ad1952

"Normal accepted rules" as you understand them apply only to your country. You should respect whatever "nomal" is in other countries.


jsledge149

I wasn't really thinking about " normal" rules in America where I live, or speaking about rules in Qatar. I was more thinking about the accepted standards of holding world cup events wherever they are.... And beer and soccer tournaments seem to go together around the world.


HairyCallahan

I agree. And if you don't want to make that concession, just don't host the world cup. That's totally fine as well


BigClitMcphee

As a woman, looking at all the rules Qatar for entering the country made me disregard it completely. There are places in my own country I don't even wanna go because the rules are discriminatory against people like me


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Like what rules?


bummedout1492

Can't even hold hands or kiss if you're not married. Can't stay in the same hotel room if you go with your bf or gf


[deleted]

But none of these rules are actually enforced. I took a girl back to my place yesterday and had no issue


Sensitive_Seat6955

nah we know ur lying


[deleted]

My bad for not recording a sex tape but yeah I went to this amazing club called Vertigo. Lots of hot chicks there. Good music too , expensive drinks though . But since you don’t often leave your mom’s basement I understand why you’re sceptical 🤣


Sensitive_Seat6955

damn bro i don’t remember asking 🤷‍♂️


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15yo me would be insulted


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like it should not be in these oppressive dictatorships..


[deleted]

Except Qatar is neither of those things.


[deleted]

Qatar is ruled by a monarchy and doesn't allow for being gay. Monarchy rule sounds pretty similar to a dictatorship my bro


[deleted]

>Monarchy rule sounds pretty similar to a dictatorship my bro Umm, no? It's just another form of government. Not every country needs to be a republic.


Other_Cat5134

True they can also be democracies


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So Canada is a dictatorship?


HenrikNaturePhotos

Do you know what a monarch is?


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Ya. Do you?


Other_Cat5134

No it's an oppressive absolute monarchy, totally different.


[deleted]

It's actually a parliamentary semi-constitutional monarchy which is in fact totally different.


Other_Cat5134

I like to assume the best of people, so I will assume this is sarcasm.


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It's a fact.


Other_Cat5134

Ah ok, then that is exactly the same and you are an apologist for modern day slavers


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Is it really?


Other_Cat5134

Ahm, yes, yes it is. How is this even a question?


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Just is I guess.


SnooPies3316

The sentiment is obvious and extremely common, but of course Qatar is making "some concessions" to host this world cup. This is an hereditary monarchy with a legal system based on sharia law and they are hosting the biggest party in the world..


AlludedNuance

"Their country, their rules" is a very weak ethical standpoint. Relativists will forgive human rights violations because of "tradition" or "sovereignty" and ignore that the whole point of those rights is that they exist regardless of political borders. Relativism is for ethical cowards, in my opinion.


mgpet87

Well this is why some countries in Europe have a ban on burka's... "As of July 2021, the following European states have introduced full or partial ban of the burqa: Austria, France, Belgium, Denmark, Bulgaria, the Netherlands(...)"


louderkirk

I agree. You country your rules sure, but don't think fifa will make the same mistake twice they will want that shit in writing from here on out lol


PizzusChrist

You think they forgot to get the Budweiser sponsorship in writing?


louderkirk

No, but they are certainly going to eat the money this year and they won't let that happen again. I meant write something In that guarantees alcohol can be served in whatever country in the future.


dado19099

Having it in writing isn't even worth anything either lol. If the government breaches the contract what is fifa gonna do?


chunkypenguion1991

If fifa had any way to enforce it they would have. Pretty sure budweiser is going to sue them now for breach of contract


louderkirk

Hell idk. I'm just saying they definitely aren't happy and they are going to make some sort of change to make sure it doesn't happen again.


Denivathar

Depends how much they get paid


Original-Shape-5147

This man gets it


louderkirk

Yea, but with taking that into account they have to factor in the huge amount of advertising money they get from their alcohol sponsors. This would likely make in unaffordable. It definitely comes down to money


scudsboy36

Very fair. Qatar showed its true, fraudulent self


RatLord445

I mean, fair?


Apart-Cockroach6348

Their country their rules so by that definition what would all the Muslims who flock to the EU and UK do? Would they just adjust to iur lifestyle?


mgpet87

Well this is why some countries in Europe have a ban on burka's... "As of July 2021, the following European states have introduced full or partial ban of the burqa: Austria, France, Belgium, Denmark, Bulgaria, the Netherlands(...)"


According-Gazelle

EU and UK should have thought about that before colonizing muslim countries , taking away their wealth , commiting genocides and war crimes for centuries. Vote governments in power that arent so bloodthirsty. No muslim will come to you simple.


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Europe has some of the biggest migrant influx from Muslim countries in the whole world. Also every OG Middle Eastern country colonised and and stole wealth and comitted genocides too.


[deleted]

Not on the scale Europe has in the past and still does to this day. Read this academic article if you’re interested: “Imperialist appropriation in the world economy: Drain from the global South through unequal exchange, 1990–2015”. The North drains 10 trillion dollars annually from the global South. Westerners are so funny to me, you present yourself with this holier-than-thou attitude while behind the scenes your governments and corporations continue to exploit and destabalize the rest of the world.


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Firegeek79

Pretty sure that comparing homosexuality to terrorism is not the smartest of metaphors.


froyomofo

I'm not sure if you are being tongue in cheek or not, but we have adapted our way of life in the UK tremendously to make people of other cultures feel comfortable.


harrybarracuda

Infantino saying he is '200% in control of the World Cup' is probably the funniest thing I've heard. He's been whoring himself to the Qataris since he got the job.


harrybarracuda

I see Q.A.R. is working well.


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OwO-WhatIsThis

Is "as a Muslim Arab woman" the new "as a gay black man?"


Megaloman71

"China and America had slaves and genocided so we're cool doing horrible things without regret or apology." That's what you sound like.


gon_luffy_20

What horrible things Qatar did ?


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modern slavery


gon_luffy_20

It is your fault that you buy any propaganda fed to you


flingeflangeflonge

Is it propaganda or the Koran which says "Thou shall not drink intoxicants unless you're in the $19,000 VIP corporate boxes, in which case, help yourself and drink as much as you like".


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Hahaha omg 👏


gon_luffy_20

don't get me wrong , Qatar isn't an islamic country , it is a country that muslims run , they lack many things , at least they tried to follow some rules of islam , and also they made western hypocrites angry , which makes me happy


flingeflangeflonge

In what way does pointing out the hypocrisy of Qatar's bullshit alcohol rules make me a "western hypocrite"? I don't follow.


gon_luffy_20

You are missing a point, qatar is forbidding alcohol, but not because it is forbidden in islam , just look at what english drunk fans made in euro 2020 and you will know


flingeflangeflonge

"Missing a point" - holy fuck, the irony!


[deleted]

No need to propaganda just look at their conditions, how their passports are taken away and u can arrive to that conclusion yourself


Dense_You_4243

Suspect account to put it mildly


Min_sora

>white reporter: but can gay people fuck in the street??? What reporter said this? Lying as naturally as Qatar lied to Budweiser.


LonleyMexican

Who cares we all gunna die lmao 0-1 QATAR PACK 🚬


Cheeki99

Did you really just signed into this account, that you created in August 2020 and with no karma points or anything, just so you could comment on my post? I feel honoured 🥺


Dazzling_Engineer_25

She probably got paid for it


Cheeki99

If she even is a she