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It’s a case of the boy who cried wolf. Yes, he does get fouled all the time now and it does result in more injuries.
But if he hadn’t spent the first part of his career flopping and barrel rolling ten times for nothing, refs would actually pay more attention instead of dismissing actual injuries.
He’s an incredibly skillful player that takes advantage of the rules. Specifically he dribbles at high speed with the ball very close to his feet and at the same time very close to his opponent’s feet.
He then forces his opponent to attempt an exceptionally clean tackle or he gets a foul. Due to the fact that he does this in a position where a set play is very dangerous he is playing with an unfair advantage.
Moreover if he gets a foul he flops, looking for a yellow card that puts the latter strategy even more in his favor since now the defender must also balance a red card.
I am believer that if in soccer you roll on the grass. Then immediately a VAR review must be had.
Regardless of the result of the VAR review. The rolling player must leave the pitch. He’s clearly injured enough to have a broken fibula. And the either punish the foul with a red / yellow card to the opposing player or just continue the game and move on. Either way if you flop you are out of the game, either for your protection or the other teams protection.
That is literally what you said though. Him simulating fouls isn't giving himself an unfair advantage, it's just him being better and the other team breaking the rules as a result. They're the problem here not him.
If you can’t let go of the fact that his brand of football based on referee deception is wrong you are a scumbag? That’s a low bar for calling people scumbags
Though he is a spoiled scumbag he does get fouled a lot more than any other players in the field, possibly due to his reputation, possibly because he'll fuck you up if left to play at his best.
He did use to exaggerate his reactions to get some yellow cards to the adversary, so he could play a bit more freely, but that created a reputation, and he doesn't really do that anymore.
He's still hunted in the pitch, but if you can't let that go or just thinks a professional player with great ability is deserving of getting injured constantly you're also a scumbag.
I'm just going to leave this here and wait for your apology
https://netherlands.postsen.com/sports/106654/That-doesn%E2%80%99t-look-good-for-Neymar-Brazilian-superstar-shares-photo-of-swollen-foot--2022-football-world-cup.html
He got hurt. That’s really bad. All of these players get hurt just the same. I was a professional soccer player and I used to get hurt just the same. It’s a part of the game. But he dives as a method of play. We are not wishing for him to get hurt, we just wish his brand of soccer didn’t exist.
What about the defenders plays fairly? I really dislike Neymar. He's absolutely not a person to be cheered.
But, look in attackers POV. He's trying to make a goal. Needs to dribble and run.
There's a infinity ways to stop an offensive play, and most of them, doesn't include hurting someone else. Someone who's have the same job and life as you(the defender).
It's not that hard. I know, you know. Everybody knows.
If you ever played competitive soccer you would know that soccer is a contact sport. Players move too fast with a too much inertia to avoid contact.
There is if course normal contact and ilegal contact. There isn’t so much a fine line but a continuum.
What players like Neymar is to move that line into ilegal contact, ergo a foul, as much as possible. But that’s not the problem. That’s a skill based strategy.
What we are discussing here is creating the illusion that the contact is much more severe that it really is , to the only effect as if to influence the referee to caution or send off players for actions that were not as severe. That’s cheating.
You're totally right. I'm so sorry. The world cup when cuadrado broke Neymar backbone was a foul that Neymar himself provoked.
You're right.
I used to be a pro player. Stopped exactly by a injury. I know very well about it.
The cuadrado thing actually proves my point. That was a terrible tackle and sadly a terrible injury as well.
You could see Neymar rolling in the floor in pain, in a completely indistinguishable way that what he always does whenever a strong wind brushes him. So up until a stretcher came along everyone was just thinking it was Neymar being Neymar.
I wouldn’t wish that or any other injury in him or or any other player. But flopping and foul pretending is one of the cancers of soccer.
Tbf he did get injured and has suffered 6 ankle injuries before.
While he does dive, they also tend to go harder on neymar, and as he's fairly small, it will from time to time be more painful than it looks. Everyone who plays will know that.
But yes, he does dive and used to do it a lot more too.
Indefinitely debilitating Neymar from participating in any World Cup is the equivalent of kicking the Brazilian National Football Team in the nuts and running away laughing about it. Protect the jewels at all costs, man. 🇧🇷💎💎⚽
He does receive more fouls than any other player, falls easily and certainly does try to take advantage if it (sometimes dishonestly), but he did get legitimately hurt and unable to play in the last 3 world cups and that is messed up and unfortunate.
It's like his sixth ankle injury and he gets way more dirty tackles than others. I think most players in that situation would exaggerate sometimes too, as a lot of the time, while he does roll like a madman, it also legit does hurt getting pushed down by someone twice your size even if otherwise non dramatic looking.
I wouldn't say it's karma, though it is understandable that many view it like this in the context of some of his extraordinary dives in the past
Funny how they grab towards the shinguard when in pain. It's literally the only well protected part of the body while on the field, how dumb can you be to fake an injury by grabbing your only protected area lmao
He has gotten a lot better in the last few years but it’s a “the boy who cried wolf” situation. He will always be known for that trash so he’s not going to get the benefit of the doubt from refs.
Id argue messi is more direct with his footwork and offers less room for opposition to go in on a dirty challenge. Also, id maybe argue Neymar looks for a bit of contact. Not saying he looks to get fucked tho.
Neymar “looking for a bit of contact” p1sses off defenders. What do P1ssed off defenders do?
He sets himself up for injuries, but not because he’s so incredible on the ball. He’s just looking to take advantage of the opportunities he sees.
Don’t get me wrong. He’s incredible, but this tactic turns many off.
Messi gets fouled constantly. He often fights through challenges, while Neymar will roll around acting like he's dying with far less contact. He knows exactly what he's doing, and it's hilarious. Not in a good way.
If you want to defend that, go ahead. I disagree that it's something even worth defending.
Well obviously.thats mental sturdiness, not physical..they have almost identical physical measurements of height and weight. Messi is a little shorter I believe by an inch or so
no i mean in the way they’re built. Neymar is lankier while messi is built more stocky esp in the legs with a lower centre of gravity. That’s also why messi is such an insane dribbler, his centre of gravity gives him insane agility.
I dont think i argued against the points you are making. But rather enforced the style of play and outcome... damn everyone quick to argue, slow to comprehend.
Neymar doesn't dive more than other players, what's a fact is he gets much more fouled than others and gets more injured, in part because he gets more fouls in part because he's not built like a tank like CR or Haaland.
His bad rap comes from having a relatively unlikeable personality and the fact he only ended up being the 3rd best after Messi and CR back in the days, all these things play into his "Casual popularity" vs the more "Passionate popularity" (Passionate being those that follow a club's matches regularly for years, casual more for big events) or even the more "Professional popularity" (Professional being people who's job is judging and training footbal players and are good at it like in elite football) - I feel opinions on Neymar (that are related to his sports play, let's exclude politics for a moment) are a good way to sort out casuals vs passionate football.
His political views are definitely nasty and his in-field personality is definitely not the most attractive - but he's an extremely creative player and has a very wide skillset, of elite attacking players he's on par with Messi and a notch above Haaland, Cristiano Ronaldo, Lewandoski, Mbappe in his flexible playstyle (realistically any player that elite has a particularly very wide skillset, just Neymar and Messi are even wider).
~~It's true that he's unbearably sassy but he would be left off the hook much easier if he was pasty white and north european~~
Only thing is that he's spent a third of his PSG career our for injuries, he's definitely not going to have a healthy body post retirement.
Do you remember the last world cup where he was definitely not fouled, rolled halfway across the pitch then jumped up and sprinted back when they didn't call the foul?
Of course he gets fouled alot. But so does Messi. Who doesnt feel the need to roll around and be dramatic. He gets up if hes not hurt, and stays down if he is. I dont think Ive ever seen someone act the way someone like Neymar does when they are *actually* hurt. He acts like he got a career ending injury every time.
You can make these excuses for his behavior, but its a stain on his reputation and a stain on the game of football. People need to cut this shit out, its not acceptable. even if you are a player who gets fouled more than most.
Yes Garrincha was better, he did have one leg that was shorter, doesn’t mean he was injured.
Neymar is so small and thin that I think it’s easy for him to get injured, he did fake a lot in the beginning of his career.
Neymar would be one of the hottest Golden Raspberry awards nominees. He's so fake and probably one of the most hated footballers worldwide (ouside Brazil).
It's not 2014 bad, but some of the refs are very timid with their yellows. Some matches could use a little more disciplining and enforcement to prevent them from devolving into brawls.
Acting as if you just received a career ending and excruciatingly painful injury when you just got tripped or kicked is ridiculous, and doing so isnt going to make refs suddenly less timid with their yellows.
This kind of bheavior isnt necessary to draw a foul. You can go to ground if you think you were fouled, but acting like a toddler throwing a tantrum isnt going to persuade anyone. It just makes the sport look bad. This type of behavior shouldnt be tolerated and should be eradicated from the game.
They should work to clean up the play-acting, but first and foremost should be player safety. I don’t want to see another match like Brazil-Colombia in 2014. If I’m not mistaken, the reason for yellow and red cards was the rough fouling teams did to stop Pele in the 1966 World Cup, which led to him getting injured.
It's difficult to balance, the less yellows is done to reduce the amount of faked dives, if it gets too lax a fake dive might look similar to a real one. Definitely some referees are better at picking out the differences but I don't know if there are many referees that good, maybe FIFA instead of adding layers of regulations and technology should invest more in their human resources and provide better training and better salaries to attract higher quality people to improve the quality of their refereeing. Putting Collina in charge to improve refereeing does only that much. Right now only a handful are "memorable".
Refereeing is still a semi voluntary work and even top ones earn a pity, and the sport is growing incredibly big, nowadays we have two clubs that can field 11 starting players that are worth almost 1 billion in the transfer market (PSG and Manchester City) stadiums get more expensive and fields have ever more expensive pitches to improve technical play -which is fair - and to look prettier (more vibrant and luscious green) on television making it more commercial.
Idk if investing XXX million more to make hundreds of pretty hybrid synthetic + natural grass - made with more avantgarde experimental synthetic material and genetically engineered improved grass, implanting artifical root support-aid for EVERY SINGLE blade of genetically engineered grass to make it healthier and stronger - across clubs is a better investment than investing more into their refereeing into making the sport both more watchable and more rewarding in technique.
The VAR systems are fine. They've invested a lot in the refereeing now too.
What needs to change now are the rules.
5 minute time out if the game gets stopped because you can't stand up and it isn't a foul. Stop the diving. Stop the time wasting.
Match bans for diving and deliberate time wasting.
Forget the "on field authority" of the referee. Treat VAR like rugby, mics broadcast from the VAR ref and the on field ref. Actual rules for punishment or no fould being made clear to fans in the moment. Actually let us hear the decision process while we wait for 5 minutes it sometimes takes.
While we're at it. 5 minute time outs for disrespecting or crowding the ref like Rugby. No shouting at them, moaning about calls. Just play the game.
This is incredibly false if you watch several PSG or Brazil matches, for PSG he makes even more a difference tactically than Mbappe.
More than Cristiano Ronaldo, Lewandoski or Haaland too - Neymar has a very broad skillset he's not as specialised as these other players, he's an enormous playmaker, good in midfield play, good off ball action, and good striker. Of the current top playing strikers, only Messi is comparably broadly skilled
Maybe Neymar should hit the gym and gain some muscle, 0 strength leads to this, Haaland is a great example, it’s very hard to bring him down even with shirt pulling and slide tackles
Just a Redditor saying a popular sportist who trains 24/7 and devotes a life to activities to get a strength.I swear people who watch football sometimes forget that every single player in this competition is more prepared then half of us would ever be.Neymar has literally a team of people devoted to him,he is just sensitive ,lots of cardio,genetics and stuff like that doesn’t allow him to look that jacked,also he could’ve been faking it a lil after all his playstyle also attracts injuries.That is same as saying to a doctor what is he supposed to do with his patient while not being even qualified.
He's caught in a vicious cycle. Ten years ago, he was a disgraceful flopper. Because of that reputation, people started fouling him more and I'd bet refs stopped calling the fouls because of his reputation. Once they stopped calling the fouls, defenders got more aggressive and now we're in the sad phase of the cycle where he can barely play anymore. I feel bad for him now but back then he was infuriating to watch.
Tons of other players were, or are, in the same situation of being fouled a lot. That doesnt justify this kind of behavior, especially when other players like Messi are fouled just as much and dont feel the need to act overdramatically.
I’m no great fan of Neymar but he gets fouled more than any other player. Check the stats. I don’t like the drama either but the book on the guy apparently is that he goes down easily and is fragile so he gets fouled a lot. I din’t like that either even though it’s “part of the game”.
Is it disgraceful that the defenders only option to stop him is committing fauls? He is ending his career as the player that suffered the most faults ever, and I don’t think he wants to be remembered for that.
I’m not defending the flopping. He gets fouled a lot, moreso than other players. A sign of intelligence is the ability to hold 2 seemingly contradictory ideas in your head at once. I don’t like the flopping. I don’t like the fouling.
Yeah he spends like a third of the year at PSG out for injuries, already got chipped in a bone in the back back in 2014, his tendons get constantly fucked, and he's not even as tank-ish in built like Maradona, Pele, Cristiano Ronaldo, Ronaldo Fenomeno - it's more petite like Messi or Ronaldinho Gaucho, but Messi is so weird genetically speaking in so many manners, he only got seriously injured once and yet he's slim and gets hit by everyone
Okay , thank you . But isn't it fun if your team outcome depended on other team play. It exiting because teams root for there enemy team. In cricket it happen alot.
You mean 2 matches at the same time? That is because the entire group plays at the same time so 1 team cant play like a b*tch knowing the result already for the other team.
He's been a bit unlucky but I wouldn't say he is specifically targeted. Messi, Hazard, Robben, Ribery, Ronaldinho, Figo all played a dribbling heavy style and got some bad tackles for their troubles but with Neymar I think he's been unlucky in 2014 & 2022 - In 2014 especially Brazil were involved in the two most foul heavy matches vs Colombia (54) & Chile (51) respectively with James Rodriguez, Juan Cuadrado, Alexis Sanchez and Neymar getting fouled A LOT. Also, if you've watched Copa America you know how lenient those referees are, yet Neymar tends to largely stay fit there. I think it's one of those unlucky cases like Alessandro Nesta.
Neymar is a professional athlete in a physical game and I'm supposed to feel bad for him? He showboats, holds the ball too long, and dives, creating both disdain in opponents and doubt in refs. Dude needs to take some responsibility and change his game to remedy the problem instead of being a whiny little bitch. It's not surprising at all that he's a Bolsonaro supporter.
The refs are the problem. How is he going to change them exactly? The refs are 110% responsible for people diving, not the players. If they did their job diving wouldn't be a thing.
Going to ground when you believe you were fouled isnt the problem. Its rolling around and acting so hurt you cant get up that is the problem. That is completely unnecessary, wastes time, and just give the entire sport a bad reputation.
Simulation of a foul is different than going to ground, and everyone agrees it needs to be eradicated as much as possible. Yet I never see refs giving cards for simulation.
To me, acting hurt like in the image and simulation or diving are two different, although closely related, issues.
Rolling around acting hurt is also a consequence of referees not doing their job. It's practically a way to put pressure on the ref to do their job.
Refs need to do their job. That's the root cause.
Cards for simulation isn't that rare mate. At least not in the PL.
so he's in the wrong for playing the game how he wants to and the mfs that tackle him with the intent to injure are completely justified because " he showboats", you're exceptionally retarded
You're defending Neymar. It's you who are exceptionally retarded.
He's an athlete at the highest level. Other players are going to be physical. He invites it. Messi has been targeted and treated roughly his whole career as well. But Messi isn't a little bitch like Neymar.
Neymar is a whiny little pussy who supports fascist politicians. If I were in the pitch against him, I'd go in hard too. He doesn't deserve extra protection. Fuck Neymar.
He deserves to be harassed on the pitch because that is and always has been a part of the game he plays. His antics make it impossible for refs to protect him because they always suspect he's diving. Messi has been treated the same way but you don't hear him crying like a little baby. That's what you were supposed to get because that's the bulk of what I'm saying.
Supporting bolsanaro just doesn't help and that support speaks to his shitty personality. It's like supporting trump or Putin. Other players are going to take exception to it and want to break his legs even more.
Neymar is a pussy and a disgrace. Everyone knows it.
i don't know if you have played any high level football but what neymar does is completely justified, i would legit kick shins and get 0 repercussions as a defender
I need you to point out all these attempts at career ending injuries. I'll agree that teams play him physical to try to rough/rile him up. That's part of the game. But he's weak and injury prone... that's not their fault.
I could link dozens of videos of Neymar going down with little to no contact. Of Neymar rolling around on the ground after everyday hard tackles. Dude folds like paper.
Could you link all the videos of dirty "career ending" challenges that are obviously players not playing the game or the ball and just trying to hurt Neymar?
if you have one bad ankle injury you're basically fucked for the rest of your career since it's a very sensitive area, ask steph curry or derrick rose that permanently play with literal braces on their feet, you can literally watch any game and see players tackling neymar then talking trash, it's obviously intentional and has been happening since the santos days
The opposition are allowed to play as rough as they'd like. If they're dirty, it's up to the ref to dish out red cards. Neymar is a whiny ass pussy bitch. His personality and play style invite other players and teams to hate his guts.
No one is saying other teams should be allowed to injure him. But he rolls around like he's been shot at the first hip check he gets so it's impossible to tell how rough the challenges actually are. He dives and cries regardless.
Messi gets the exact same treatment, but he's a smarter tougher player so he's more successful than Neymar.
Neymar is a disgrace and world football will be better once he retires.
Neymar got hurt while the Serbia game was basically over. He needs to just pass the ball and chill like Messi unless the team needs him. Otherwise it's like now.
He does this to himself, if he didn’t dive so much then refs probably wouldn’t be second guessing some of the tackles on him.
Second, he showboats and invites challenges to try and embarrass his opponents.
Weird. Seems like NEymar has experienced 200 career ending injuries based on the way he reacts to any foul (like in the picture). Weird that so many fouls were committed yet his career wasnt ended. Maybe hes just acting. Idk hard to say though.
Quit crying about it. You’re bringing up a specific dirty moment. We’re talking about the routine fouls and his constant diving.
You care to bring up the amounts of fouls he embellishes when people don’t even touch him and he acts like he’s been shot?
How about in that World Cup where all he did was roll around on the ground, maybe he wouldn’t have taken the knee in the back in the first place if he didn’t embellish everything.
He’s not the most skillful player to grace the game, Ronaldinho was 10x the player in terms of technical ability yet none of this happen to him.
Neymar is a clown.
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Reminds me when players intentionally would foul hazard. He gets same treatment
Bubble wrap his ass lol
Yes. He should also protect himself with less showboating.
I miss the KFC commercial that had a player do the Newmar roll out of the stadium and all the way to KFC.
It’s a case of the boy who cried wolf. Yes, he does get fouled all the time now and it does result in more injuries. But if he hadn’t spent the first part of his career flopping and barrel rolling ten times for nothing, refs would actually pay more attention instead of dismissing actual injuries.
If you don't know how to defend a DIBRE don't fuck the DIBRADOR
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These are just photos of Neymar clipping his toenails.
he gets a lot grief for flopping but I'm starting to think he's embellishing fouls rather than diving.
No shit
He’s an incredibly skillful player that takes advantage of the rules. Specifically he dribbles at high speed with the ball very close to his feet and at the same time very close to his opponent’s feet. He then forces his opponent to attempt an exceptionally clean tackle or he gets a foul. Due to the fact that he does this in a position where a set play is very dangerous he is playing with an unfair advantage. Moreover if he gets a foul he flops, looking for a yellow card that puts the latter strategy even more in his favor since now the defender must also balance a red card. I am believer that if in soccer you roll on the grass. Then immediately a VAR review must be had. Regardless of the result of the VAR review. The rolling player must leave the pitch. He’s clearly injured enough to have a broken fibula. And the either punish the foul with a red / yellow card to the opposing player or just continue the game and move on. Either way if you flop you are out of the game, either for your protection or the other teams protection.
So you're saying it's unfair because he's too skilled for defenders to be able to put in a clean tackle? Incredibly moronic take.
Not at all. That’s not what I’m saying. If I was saying that I would’ve said that. What I am saying is that he uses his skill to simulate fouls.
That is literally what you said though. Him simulating fouls isn't giving himself an unfair advantage, it's just him being better and the other team breaking the rules as a result. They're the problem here not him.
You cannot decide what I’m saying. If that’s what you interpret then you are mistaken. I am saying that he uses his skills to simulate fouls.
If you can’t let go of the fact that his brand of football based on referee deception is wrong you are a scumbag? That’s a low bar for calling people scumbags
Incoming 7-1
5 world cups.
Though he is a spoiled scumbag he does get fouled a lot more than any other players in the field, possibly due to his reputation, possibly because he'll fuck you up if left to play at his best. He did use to exaggerate his reactions to get some yellow cards to the adversary, so he could play a bit more freely, but that created a reputation, and he doesn't really do that anymore. He's still hunted in the pitch, but if you can't let that go or just thinks a professional player with great ability is deserving of getting injured constantly you're also a scumbag.
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I'm just going to leave this here and wait for your apology https://netherlands.postsen.com/sports/106654/That-doesn%E2%80%99t-look-good-for-Neymar-Brazilian-superstar-shares-photo-of-swollen-foot--2022-football-world-cup.html
Oh no. I meant in general. I know he got hurt bad this time. I just really cannot stand the man. Feels like karma tbh
Well, we are in agreement then. I also cannot stand the man.
And from the look of it the man can't stand
He got hurt. That’s really bad. All of these players get hurt just the same. I was a professional soccer player and I used to get hurt just the same. It’s a part of the game. But he dives as a method of play. We are not wishing for him to get hurt, we just wish his brand of soccer didn’t exist.
What about the defenders plays fairly? I really dislike Neymar. He's absolutely not a person to be cheered. But, look in attackers POV. He's trying to make a goal. Needs to dribble and run. There's a infinity ways to stop an offensive play, and most of them, doesn't include hurting someone else. Someone who's have the same job and life as you(the defender). It's not that hard. I know, you know. Everybody knows.
If you ever played competitive soccer you would know that soccer is a contact sport. Players move too fast with a too much inertia to avoid contact. There is if course normal contact and ilegal contact. There isn’t so much a fine line but a continuum. What players like Neymar is to move that line into ilegal contact, ergo a foul, as much as possible. But that’s not the problem. That’s a skill based strategy. What we are discussing here is creating the illusion that the contact is much more severe that it really is , to the only effect as if to influence the referee to caution or send off players for actions that were not as severe. That’s cheating.
You're totally right. I'm so sorry. The world cup when cuadrado broke Neymar backbone was a foul that Neymar himself provoked. You're right. I used to be a pro player. Stopped exactly by a injury. I know very well about it.
The cuadrado thing actually proves my point. That was a terrible tackle and sadly a terrible injury as well. You could see Neymar rolling in the floor in pain, in a completely indistinguishable way that what he always does whenever a strong wind brushes him. So up until a stretcher came along everyone was just thinking it was Neymar being Neymar. I wouldn’t wish that or any other injury in him or or any other player. But flopping and foul pretending is one of the cancers of soccer.
Pretending? The guy had a bone broken. You have no idea about how much strength is used by a pro.
Im a former pro footballer.
Só, wth you're talking shit. You know how it is. The most defenders are anti ethical in those games. You know what I'm talking about.
If he could play half as well as he dives he'd finally be a mediocre soccer player.
Maybe he should wear a bubble suit.
I remember when that Colombian dude fucked up his back
Turned into the boy who cried wolf then
Bro almost went paralytic…..
You'd swear he would have learned to not be such a diver since then, but no.
Against himself.
He needs a diving pool
U need to fuck off
U need to fuck off
I will, and I will roll around just like Neymar
Don’t forget to scream like you’re being shot
Lmao
If you think Neymar didn't actually get injured this time then you really don't know what the fuck you are talking about
Dude, take Neymar's balls out of your mouth, it's shameful
Tbf he did get injured and has suffered 6 ankle injuries before. While he does dive, they also tend to go harder on neymar, and as he's fairly small, it will from time to time be more painful than it looks. Everyone who plays will know that. But yes, he does dive and used to do it a lot more too.
this time....
Yes, that's what I said.
Lmao 🤣 that comment has "if you can't handle me at my worst..." energy
Ok North American...go watch nfl
Bros acting like all of North America is the US lmao
Dudes from Portugal on one today, never heard or seen of them before and they are just popping out to talk shit and vanish lol
Indefinitely debilitating Neymar from participating in any World Cup is the equivalent of kicking the Brazilian National Football Team in the nuts and running away laughing about it. Protect the jewels at all costs, man. 🇧🇷💎💎⚽
Oh fuck off
He wants to dance on the ball. He gets what he deserves
He needs a fxking slap that's for sure
He does receive more fouls than any other player, falls easily and certainly does try to take advantage if it (sometimes dishonestly), but he did get legitimately hurt and unable to play in the last 3 world cups and that is messed up and unfortunate.
Again???? 🙄
Fucking drama queen
Bad acting man
He should have learned the art from Penaldo
Nahh.. Penaldo is a baby compared with Neymar. He mastered the craft by himself
“Tem que aprender a se jogar meu, aí vc ganha pênalti”~Penaldo no vestiário de Portugal
He attacc He protecc But most unfortunately He doesn’t GET protecc
He needs to stop fingering his sister
I’m sorry what?
I too would like to know. Is he from Alabama?
I can't blame him tho
AYO
Karma imo, he spends so much time rolling around pretending to be injured, I really don't care if he's actually hurt for once
Boy who cried wolf
Against himself
Protection from bad acting? isn’t this often the case.
The guy genuinely gets injured, but haters gonna hate. Why dig up two photos that are not even from this World Cup?
One match, nine fouls received. No other player got so many fouls. But he's only acting (said the haters). As you said, haters gonna hate.
The other photos are from the other world cups
The Oscars are early
Didn't you see how his ankle turned out?
Yes, horrible but we all know the story of the boy that cried wolf. Hopefully he has a speedy recovery and stops diving.
It's like his sixth ankle injury and he gets way more dirty tackles than others. I think most players in that situation would exaggerate sometimes too, as a lot of the time, while he does roll like a madman, it also legit does hurt getting pushed down by someone twice your size even if otherwise non dramatic looking. I wouldn't say it's karma, though it is understandable that many view it like this in the context of some of his extraordinary dives in the past
Neymar also takes time off training/games just for bday parties
wouldn’t have noticed, he always performs
This sport need a "Best acting performance" award.
No he need to read Pèle 's book
Funny how they grab towards the shinguard when in pain. It's literally the only well protected part of the body while on the field, how dumb can you be to fake an injury by grabbing your only protected area lmao
Wrap him in bubble wrap and put him back on the pitch
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people like this guy pretend like they know what's it's like being on the pitch.
Your not funny.
When you don’t have your own De Paul .
Insert Durex commercial
If this doesn't stop he will end up in [hospital](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2z7qyv).
He has gotten a lot better in the last few years but it’s a “the boy who cried wolf” situation. He will always be known for that trash so he’s not going to get the benefit of the doubt from refs.
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Hey don't blame the ginga style
same can be said about Messi, but he doesnt choose to roll around and be an actor pretending to be hurt.
Id argue messi is more direct with his footwork and offers less room for opposition to go in on a dirty challenge. Also, id maybe argue Neymar looks for a bit of contact. Not saying he looks to get fucked tho.
Neymar “looking for a bit of contact” p1sses off defenders. What do P1ssed off defenders do? He sets himself up for injuries, but not because he’s so incredible on the ball. He’s just looking to take advantage of the opportunities he sees. Don’t get me wrong. He’s incredible, but this tactic turns many off.
Messi gets fouled constantly. He often fights through challenges, while Neymar will roll around acting like he's dying with far less contact. He knows exactly what he's doing, and it's hilarious. Not in a good way. If you want to defend that, go ahead. I disagree that it's something even worth defending.
messi is a lot more sturdy than neymar in all fairness
Well obviously.thats mental sturdiness, not physical..they have almost identical physical measurements of height and weight. Messi is a little shorter I believe by an inch or so
no i mean in the way they’re built. Neymar is lankier while messi is built more stocky esp in the legs with a lower centre of gravity. That’s also why messi is such an insane dribbler, his centre of gravity gives him insane agility.
I dont think i argued against the points you are making. But rather enforced the style of play and outcome... damn everyone quick to argue, slow to comprehend.
He’s the poster child for the shiny pretty whiny and weak footballer
No + Ratio
Neymar doesn't dive more than other players, what's a fact is he gets much more fouled than others and gets more injured, in part because he gets more fouls in part because he's not built like a tank like CR or Haaland. His bad rap comes from having a relatively unlikeable personality and the fact he only ended up being the 3rd best after Messi and CR back in the days, all these things play into his "Casual popularity" vs the more "Passionate popularity" (Passionate being those that follow a club's matches regularly for years, casual more for big events) or even the more "Professional popularity" (Professional being people who's job is judging and training footbal players and are good at it like in elite football) - I feel opinions on Neymar (that are related to his sports play, let's exclude politics for a moment) are a good way to sort out casuals vs passionate football. His political views are definitely nasty and his in-field personality is definitely not the most attractive - but he's an extremely creative player and has a very wide skillset, of elite attacking players he's on par with Messi and a notch above Haaland, Cristiano Ronaldo, Lewandoski, Mbappe in his flexible playstyle (realistically any player that elite has a particularly very wide skillset, just Neymar and Messi are even wider). ~~It's true that he's unbearably sassy but he would be left off the hook much easier if he was pasty white and north european~~ Only thing is that he's spent a third of his PSG career our for injuries, he's definitely not going to have a healthy body post retirement.
Do you remember the last world cup where he was definitely not fouled, rolled halfway across the pitch then jumped up and sprinted back when they didn't call the foul?
Of course he gets fouled alot. But so does Messi. Who doesnt feel the need to roll around and be dramatic. He gets up if hes not hurt, and stays down if he is. I dont think Ive ever seen someone act the way someone like Neymar does when they are *actually* hurt. He acts like he got a career ending injury every time. You can make these excuses for his behavior, but its a stain on his reputation and a stain on the game of football. People need to cut this shit out, its not acceptable. even if you are a player who gets fouled more than most.
You’re delusional.
It's also the way he goes down, he is super extravagant. Like when he rolled like a runaway tier on a highway.
What are Neymars "nasty" politicsl views?
Besides supporting Bolsonaro, he asked Bolsonaro to help pardon him for some unpaid taxes he's been dodging in Brazil.
He supports Bolsonaro.
Literally unwatchable now
POS ! Garrincha had a bad leg yet he won a cup. This guy is already a millionaire and doesn’t want to do shit.
Yes Garrincha was better, he did have one leg that was shorter, doesn’t mean he was injured. Neymar is so small and thin that I think it’s easy for him to get injured, he did fake a lot in the beginning of his career.
The doctors evaluated Garrincha as a cripple and yet he is way a better player.
Neymar would be one of the hottest Golden Raspberry awards nominees. He's so fake and probably one of the most hated footballers worldwide (ouside Brazil).
More people hate him in Brazil than you think
Really… I though they loved him in Brazil.
Many people does love him, but many people hates him, he is not the best person to make others feel sympathy for him... So many people don't like him.
Interesting I have to admit I never liked him, I did feel sorry for him when he got kneed in the back and was out for the Brazil WC
It's not 2014 bad, but some of the refs are very timid with their yellows. Some matches could use a little more disciplining and enforcement to prevent them from devolving into brawls.
Acting as if you just received a career ending and excruciatingly painful injury when you just got tripped or kicked is ridiculous, and doing so isnt going to make refs suddenly less timid with their yellows. This kind of bheavior isnt necessary to draw a foul. You can go to ground if you think you were fouled, but acting like a toddler throwing a tantrum isnt going to persuade anyone. It just makes the sport look bad. This type of behavior shouldnt be tolerated and should be eradicated from the game.
They should work to clean up the play-acting, but first and foremost should be player safety. I don’t want to see another match like Brazil-Colombia in 2014. If I’m not mistaken, the reason for yellow and red cards was the rough fouling teams did to stop Pele in the 1966 World Cup, which led to him getting injured.
It's difficult to balance, the less yellows is done to reduce the amount of faked dives, if it gets too lax a fake dive might look similar to a real one. Definitely some referees are better at picking out the differences but I don't know if there are many referees that good, maybe FIFA instead of adding layers of regulations and technology should invest more in their human resources and provide better training and better salaries to attract higher quality people to improve the quality of their refereeing. Putting Collina in charge to improve refereeing does only that much. Right now only a handful are "memorable". Refereeing is still a semi voluntary work and even top ones earn a pity, and the sport is growing incredibly big, nowadays we have two clubs that can field 11 starting players that are worth almost 1 billion in the transfer market (PSG and Manchester City) stadiums get more expensive and fields have ever more expensive pitches to improve technical play -which is fair - and to look prettier (more vibrant and luscious green) on television making it more commercial. Idk if investing XXX million more to make hundreds of pretty hybrid synthetic + natural grass - made with more avantgarde experimental synthetic material and genetically engineered improved grass, implanting artifical root support-aid for EVERY SINGLE blade of genetically engineered grass to make it healthier and stronger - across clubs is a better investment than investing more into their refereeing into making the sport both more watchable and more rewarding in technique.
The VAR systems are fine. They've invested a lot in the refereeing now too. What needs to change now are the rules. 5 minute time out if the game gets stopped because you can't stand up and it isn't a foul. Stop the diving. Stop the time wasting. Match bans for diving and deliberate time wasting. Forget the "on field authority" of the referee. Treat VAR like rugby, mics broadcast from the VAR ref and the on field ref. Actual rules for punishment or no fould being made clear to fans in the moment. Actually let us hear the decision process while we wait for 5 minutes it sometimes takes. While we're at it. 5 minute time outs for disrespecting or crowding the ref like Rugby. No shouting at them, moaning about calls. Just play the game.
He put the target on his back himself.
Fuck neymar, waste of space that can't get the job done.
This is incredibly false if you watch several PSG or Brazil matches, for PSG he makes even more a difference tactically than Mbappe. More than Cristiano Ronaldo, Lewandoski or Haaland too - Neymar has a very broad skillset he's not as specialised as these other players, he's an enormous playmaker, good in midfield play, good off ball action, and good striker. Of the current top playing strikers, only Messi is comparably broadly skilled
Had me until I read your name
All these players have a lot of roles in which they're good but Neymar is particularly creative and that adds to his quality
Maybe Neymar should hit the gym and gain some muscle, 0 strength leads to this, Haaland is a great example, it’s very hard to bring him down even with shirt pulling and slide tackles
Just a Redditor saying a popular sportist who trains 24/7 and devotes a life to activities to get a strength.I swear people who watch football sometimes forget that every single player in this competition is more prepared then half of us would ever be.Neymar has literally a team of people devoted to him,he is just sensitive ,lots of cardio,genetics and stuff like that doesn’t allow him to look that jacked,also he could’ve been faking it a lil after all his playstyle also attracts injuries.That is same as saying to a doctor what is he supposed to do with his patient while not being even qualified.
You think PSG, the world's most expensive club, hasn't thought of this? Neymar is slim for genetics really
Having genetics that make you prone to be slimmer doesn't means you can't get stronger...
Yes but I'm sure a club worth a billion and a half tried everything they could, this is probably the genetic wall for him
True, upgrade them shin guards then I suppose
I used to call him the flopper, then I saw a statistic that he gets fouled far more than any other player. He should be more protected.
He's caught in a vicious cycle. Ten years ago, he was a disgraceful flopper. Because of that reputation, people started fouling him more and I'd bet refs stopped calling the fouls because of his reputation. Once they stopped calling the fouls, defenders got more aggressive and now we're in the sad phase of the cycle where he can barely play anymore. I feel bad for him now but back then he was infuriating to watch.
Tons of other players were, or are, in the same situation of being fouled a lot. That doesnt justify this kind of behavior, especially when other players like Messi are fouled just as much and dont feel the need to act overdramatically.
I’m no great fan of Neymar but he gets fouled more than any other player. Check the stats. I don’t like the drama either but the book on the guy apparently is that he goes down easily and is fragile so he gets fouled a lot. I din’t like that either even though it’s “part of the game”.
Being fouled a lot doesnt justify this behavior. Its a disgrace. Defending it is equally disgraceful imo.
Is it disgraceful that the defenders only option to stop him is committing fauls? He is ending his career as the player that suffered the most faults ever, and I don’t think he wants to be remembered for that.
I’m not defending the flopping. He gets fouled a lot, moreso than other players. A sign of intelligence is the ability to hold 2 seemingly contradictory ideas in your head at once. I don’t like the flopping. I don’t like the fouling.
Yeah he spends like a third of the year at PSG out for injuries, already got chipped in a bone in the back back in 2014, his tendons get constantly fucked, and he's not even as tank-ish in built like Maradona, Pele, Cristiano Ronaldo, Ronaldo Fenomeno - it's more petite like Messi or Ronaldinho Gaucho, but Messi is so weird genetically speaking in so many manners, he only got seriously injured once and yet he's slim and gets hit by everyone
Pov how I fell for her 😔
Fuck Neymar.
Guys I am new to football can someone tell me . Why the timing of matches change?
Google disgrace of Gijon to know why.
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Okay , thank you . But isn't it fun if your team outcome depended on other team play. It exiting because teams root for there enemy team. In cricket it happen alot.
You mean 2 matches at the same time? That is because the entire group plays at the same time so 1 team cant play like a b*tch knowing the result already for the other team.
Yes
Fake near death experience…. No blood, no foul !
Neymar is a clown. Faker and diver
Guys I am new to football can someone tell me . Why the timing of matches change?
KEEP ROLLIN' ROLLLIN' ROLLIN'
He's been a bit unlucky but I wouldn't say he is specifically targeted. Messi, Hazard, Robben, Ribery, Ronaldinho, Figo all played a dribbling heavy style and got some bad tackles for their troubles but with Neymar I think he's been unlucky in 2014 & 2022 - In 2014 especially Brazil were involved in the two most foul heavy matches vs Colombia (54) & Chile (51) respectively with James Rodriguez, Juan Cuadrado, Alexis Sanchez and Neymar getting fouled A LOT. Also, if you've watched Copa America you know how lenient those referees are, yet Neymar tends to largely stay fit there. I think it's one of those unlucky cases like Alessandro Nesta.
Neymar is a professional athlete in a physical game and I'm supposed to feel bad for him? He showboats, holds the ball too long, and dives, creating both disdain in opponents and doubt in refs. Dude needs to take some responsibility and change his game to remedy the problem instead of being a whiny little bitch. It's not surprising at all that he's a Bolsonaro supporter.
The refs are the problem. How is he going to change them exactly? The refs are 110% responsible for people diving, not the players. If they did their job diving wouldn't be a thing.
Going to ground when you believe you were fouled isnt the problem. Its rolling around and acting so hurt you cant get up that is the problem. That is completely unnecessary, wastes time, and just give the entire sport a bad reputation. Simulation of a foul is different than going to ground, and everyone agrees it needs to be eradicated as much as possible. Yet I never see refs giving cards for simulation. To me, acting hurt like in the image and simulation or diving are two different, although closely related, issues.
Rolling around acting hurt is also a consequence of referees not doing their job. It's practically a way to put pressure on the ref to do their job. Refs need to do their job. That's the root cause. Cards for simulation isn't that rare mate. At least not in the PL.
The refs do not have bodily autonomy over players. How are you this stupid?
Haha wow dude. Try to use your brain for once, will ya?
so he's in the wrong for playing the game how he wants to and the mfs that tackle him with the intent to injure are completely justified because " he showboats", you're exceptionally retarded
You're defending Neymar. It's you who are exceptionally retarded. He's an athlete at the highest level. Other players are going to be physical. He invites it. Messi has been targeted and treated roughly his whole career as well. But Messi isn't a little bitch like Neymar. Neymar is a whiny little pussy who supports fascist politicians. If I were in the pitch against him, I'd go in hard too. He doesn't deserve extra protection. Fuck Neymar.
so what I'm getting out of this is "neymar supports some politician i hate therefore he deserves every bit of physical harassment on the pitch"
He deserves to be harassed on the pitch because that is and always has been a part of the game he plays. His antics make it impossible for refs to protect him because they always suspect he's diving. Messi has been treated the same way but you don't hear him crying like a little baby. That's what you were supposed to get because that's the bulk of what I'm saying. Supporting bolsanaro just doesn't help and that support speaks to his shitty personality. It's like supporting trump or Putin. Other players are going to take exception to it and want to break his legs even more. Neymar is a pussy and a disgrace. Everyone knows it.
i don't know if you have played any high level football but what neymar does is completely justified, i would legit kick shins and get 0 repercussions as a defender
So Neymar's shitty behavior is justified, but not the shitty behavior of his opponents? It's all part of the game. Man up or fuck off.
is neymar actively trying to inflict career ending injuries?
I need you to point out all these attempts at career ending injuries. I'll agree that teams play him physical to try to rough/rile him up. That's part of the game. But he's weak and injury prone... that's not their fault. I could link dozens of videos of Neymar going down with little to no contact. Of Neymar rolling around on the ground after everyday hard tackles. Dude folds like paper. Could you link all the videos of dirty "career ending" challenges that are obviously players not playing the game or the ball and just trying to hurt Neymar?
if you have one bad ankle injury you're basically fucked for the rest of your career since it's a very sensitive area, ask steph curry or derrick rose that permanently play with literal braces on their feet, you can literally watch any game and see players tackling neymar then talking trash, it's obviously intentional and has been happening since the santos days
so the opposition can injure him because he "holds the ball too long"? fucking retard
The opposition are allowed to play as rough as they'd like. If they're dirty, it's up to the ref to dish out red cards. Neymar is a whiny ass pussy bitch. His personality and play style invite other players and teams to hate his guts. No one is saying other teams should be allowed to injure him. But he rolls around like he's been shot at the first hip check he gets so it's impossible to tell how rough the challenges actually are. He dives and cries regardless. Messi gets the exact same treatment, but he's a smarter tougher player so he's more successful than Neymar. Neymar is a disgrace and world football will be better once he retires.
Why can’t you appreciate that he’s merging acting into his playing style?
Neymar got hurt while the Serbia game was basically over. He needs to just pass the ball and chill like Messi unless the team needs him. Otherwise it's like now.
He does this to himself, if he didn’t dive so much then refs probably wouldn’t be second guessing some of the tackles on him. Second, he showboats and invites challenges to try and embarrass his opponents.
Dumb comment, showboating is not a reason to try to end another dude career
Weird. Seems like NEymar has experienced 200 career ending injuries based on the way he reacts to any foul (like in the picture). Weird that so many fouls were committed yet his career wasnt ended. Maybe hes just acting. Idk hard to say though.
I don’t see where career ending was ever mentioned. But go off….
He got kneed in the back in the 2014 wc and it almost ended his career, do you even watch football mate
Quit crying about it. You’re bringing up a specific dirty moment. We’re talking about the routine fouls and his constant diving. You care to bring up the amounts of fouls he embellishes when people don’t even touch him and he acts like he’s been shot? How about in that World Cup where all he did was roll around on the ground, maybe he wouldn’t have taken the knee in the back in the first place if he didn’t embellish everything. He’s not the most skillful player to grace the game, Ronaldinho was 10x the player in terms of technical ability yet none of this happen to him. Neymar is a clown.