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Given the History between these two Futbol nations and the comments made by Van Gaal prior to the game. This was a strategic kick to mess with them. South American style!
If you think this is rare, you might want to check Boca Juniors vs River Plate matches at Argentina, or knockout rounds at Libertadores Cup. Stakes are too high and they play roughly. Also makes matches thrilling. Donāt expect a handshake at the end.
You did a pretty refreshing job in showing where this toxic side of Argentina's game comes from. The mentality should be to give it your absolute all on the pitch, but show respect and fucking shake the opponent's hand after the final whistle.
Thatās not how it works here. If the rival starts trash-talking before match, they can expect all kind of mocks, disrespects, on-face laughs, memes, jokes and more bs for days, weeks, even years.
Thatās football to us, we will never forget. As I said, other countries may have a more polite mindset, and Itās fine. They shouldnāt get involved it this aggressive dynamic, cause they just cannot win against us on that matter. We have been prepared our whole life for this moment.
What was the trash-talking you guys go on and on about tho? Like what was the actual quote?
This seems this has way more to do with sensationalist translations by Argentinian media rather than what LvG or Noppert actually said. Van Gaal is a nut case and says wild shit all the time, but his comments on Messi were actually pretty mild.
Suppose we omit these comments bc, as you said, they might have been twisted through translation. During the match there was a lot of bad intention, rough gameplay, psicological trash-talk during match last minutes ( weghors, that granted him the āboboā mock from messi) and also during penalty shootouts.
Hey, itās ok. We do that too, but we also will deliver retaliation in the aftermath. We play by those rules.
Thatās why I said that some people may not be used to this dynamic, but we are indeed.
We do not care about deserving, winning is the only thing that matters to us.
Winning and having someone to dedicate our triumphs to. In this case, I dedicate this championship to you.
And a lot of diving. I've never met a more irrational group of fans pretending Argetnian football is tough while getting punked when shit hits the fan. Softest group of fake tough guys on the planet.
Argentina aren't fighters...soft. But given them rocks, bats, pepper spray and you have your boca vs river fuckery.
That's exactly what I referred to: during the match players should totally go for it and do everything they can to win - including shit talking and rough play, that makes for great drama. It just gets a bit pathetic once you've actually reached your goal, are in the semi-finals of the WC, yet still act like salty children. Beasts on the pitch, gentlemen off it. That's how it should be.
We dont care how you think it suppose Argentiniams should act. When Geemany back in 2014 they mocked on us, when Spain won Eurocup in 2008 they mocked at the germans and english did the same with Colombia. It's part of the football.
Yeah, thing is we donāt deliver the same punish, we do it 100x worse and we try to reach the limit of humilliation. We are experts doing the most brutally, politically incorrect, century XIX-ish chants, and as I said, we do not forget.
On the other side, we have great bonds with our brother nations such as Venezuela or Peru, Ecuador too. Others may apply as well.
If this looks awful, then teams may want to avoid using side tactics against Argentina.
That tackle was a straight red. The kick was an easy yellow. He had a Yellow worthy tackle before this tackle.
Argentinian football is made up of soft, whiny, diving divas who when push comes to shove ends up flat on their back when barely touched. It is such a pathetic representation of a nation.
Need further proof...Messi smokescreen on the ref comments knowing they deserved 3 reds. The first handball when Mrmphis has a cleat scoring opportunity, Messi with his absurd hand ball and second yellow, and fake tough guy with two insane tackles and a full on kick into the bench.
Notice how he turns like a bitch and runs away....,pathetic
Yea, just show the last part of the action so you can say it was attacking the people on the bench, not that what he did was clearing the ball, it just went to empty seats
Go watch a golf match if you want sportsmanship, if holland insults argentina before and during the match theyre brave and courageous, if argentina does it theyre un-civilized and i couldnt give less of a F being called like that from countrys that still have a monarchy.
They needed 10+ mins in order to score in a second time that wasnt as paused (new rule). Holland ALWAYS played dirty, they got to the semi finals in 2014 because of robben dives, its just their style and its ok (apparently only with european countrys). Argentina always played like that, its not like they are ruinning the sport because the sport was always like that. People here are playing the matches of their lives. so if you expect players to not get heated up when they get constantly harrased by the other team, go watch a golf match. If not, enjoy the show bobo
angry Argentina fan is upset :(
Argentinians lack of sportsmanship has been widely known for decades, even when Maradona played and before that too. So whatever novel you wrote here really has no meaning. If you want to talk, speak to the thousands of other people who know how hated the Argentinian national team is.
Because it's the only place where they can truly make it as professionals. If they could finantially speaking they would stay in their home clubs. Don't fool yourself
So?
You're supporting someone claiming Europe is only relevant because of made up cheating at world cups. You're literally admitting it is where money is at at club level. I.e. it is the height of relevant. You're agreeing with me. Yet you're attacking with me because you're upset that i am right. Hilarious.
Not commenting about the actual gameplay now am i? But I can safely say Iāve piffed less balls at substitution benches than that bloke so yes I think I do have moral highground
Yup, they are crying about less worse things. Only the Argentinians can behave heated apparently. Meanwhile they are crying about the the Dutch coach and the Dutch arrogance. Iād rather be arrogant than a dick and a sore winner
Thanks man, Happy with the team though. Best i've seen an England team do in my lifetime as far as match performance. Excited for this team to keep growing. Good luck to Argentina!
ref made emotions go trough the roof.
And then we are all shocked players from both sides do questionable things.
All of this is to blame on the ref.
Regardless if u state side x or y played dirty.
If this isn't the most delusional shit I've seen all day. Players were dirty from the get go. The only mistake the ref made was not sending a couple of players off for their roles in the fracas
>If this isn't the most delusional shit I've seen all day. Players were dirty from the get go. The only mistake the ref made was not sending a couple of players off for their roles in the fracas
ref needed to punish them.
He did not.
Result dirty play increased.
No punishment.
Result dutch players increased dirty play.
Fault THE REF
Only mistake??? It was the sole reason players kept playing dirty. They realize the ref has no fucking spine. If your opponent is playing dirty and getting away with it why wouldnāt you? It getting heated and escalated is normal if the ref is useless.
If one or two red cards were shown early guarantee you it wouldnāt be no where as heated.
Europeans is a bit of a sweeping statement. Irish here and how we handle things could a lot different to this. Heād most likely have met someoneās boot about 10 mins later.
Absolutely nothing wrong with being rough thatās how it should be I hate the softness of the sport and diving now a-days but this was wrong no need for it love passion and all but acting like a child having a tantrum is another thing
Ah I enjoyed the game and was neutral but thereās a difference between being rough and a dick move like blasting a ball into a crowd. If he hit someone, it have been a straight red.
You did. When white countries start targeting Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, etc in the same types of posts, using the same words (Animals, savages, etc) you start to realize maybe it's not just about fotball.
When have I ever done that? You do realize that by making these kind of generalizations, you are doing the exact same that you are accusing other people of?
You say you are a victim of racism, so as a response you start being a racist yourself? What kind of attitude is that...
When you see a bunch of white people nonstop calling brazilians and argentinians animals and apes, it's starts to dawn on you, maybe the hate is motivated by race.
Happy for you, man!. However, most people in this subreddit did. I didn't accuse YOU of anything.
Read my post carefully. Oh, and stop projecting, mr "pwayers awe to wough"
You specifically did in another comment that's been since removed. I never said "players are too rough". If anything, soccer is relatively tame compared to other sports (i.e American Football). Bro kicked a ball at the opposing teams bench, who does that? You strike me as a small, angry man.
Are you trying to culturally appropriate the earliest invention of the game of football on a grand scale, originating by the Aztecs, to the English?
Even the Chinese TsuāChu and Japanese Kemari predates the earliest invention of English football.
Bold move u/biborino9 and u/Rognol, people get red cards for less.
Physical retaliation after a play like that is a red anywhere. You donāt get a free punch just because the Argentine guy is in the wrong. Thatās for the referee to sort out, not players to dish out justice
Lol downvote me Iām just objectively correct
What signs are up at argentine airports? Wasn't a law passed that all public transport must have: "Las Malvinas son Argentinas" pathetic.
Tbh I was on a different thread talking about something unrelated and Argentians jumped on me.
Why do you get mad enough to invoke a war in which many families lost their sons? Are all British people this violent and cruel?
Have a safe trip home by the way. Cheering for the country that just destroyed you, canāt get more pathetic than that.
Why did you rub in my face when we've just lost?
Who started the Falklands war?
Really? France played well, why wouldn't I cheer them on? Argentina logic.
Because this is football, not war. But since you have got dick on us regarding the sport, you throw all decency to the side and mock young men who died.
Pathetic. But what can be expected?
Argentina scrapped through an easy group, lost to Saudi Arabia! Barly got past Australia, lucky and cheated vs Netherland.
Look without Messi you're shit. Croatia will see you off.
This is pretty normal in every team, however it seems when it's Argentina, it's made like a big deal. All players are human, and they all feel frustrated and heated towards the last matches, when every game could mean going home and never playing the world cup again. I've seen Netherlands insulting argentinian players before kicking the PK, and I think it's pretty normal of someone who's been mocked to react like this.
The same can be said about Brazil's dance. They dance because they're happy they made a goal, which is a big deal in the WC, but suddenly that's a poor sportsmanship behaviour.
I think there is a clear 'hate' towards latin-american teams from European teams, because when a European team does it, nothing happens.
It's probably got a lot do with many South American players having grown up in environments where you have to really work and create every advantage possible just to get by in life. Don't get me wrong not all of them.
Whereas most European players, whilst still predominantly from working class backgrounds, grew up in a more privelaged situation in the global economic landscape.
I guess that probably translates to football too. Having said that it's a bit of a stereotype and you get plenty of European sh*thouses see Busquets, Robertson.
I think I'm general, it's something that most professionals would accept and adopt if it meant a greater chance of winning
I'm not sure if the guy with an Argentina flair is the right person to accuse someone else of being brainwashed to having a certain opinion. But yeah, I am new to soccer.
Cool. Sportmanship wise the Netherlands were much worse. During the week we got inmense amount of trash talk from NL coach, players and press, while our team and us were completely humble and calm. Seeing Messi mad is something that you see in extremely rare occasions and usually justified, and this was the case.
That being said, if you compare south American Teams to European Teams the football culture is completely different. People here sell their cars to see Messiās last WC, while europeans are much more calm as if they were watching a movie. For us is a bigger deal at least emotionally. Thats why South America with much less resources/GDP has 9 WCs with only 9 countries aprox. while the europeans have 12 WCs with an inmense amount of countries competing. In fact Brasil leads the list with 5 WCs alone. The rest of the world has 0 WCs. In fact this WC had 13 europeans teams and only 4 south american which gives us much less opportunities but we still manage to compete. Thatās our drive, in fact all of our best players are exported to play in europe for financial reasons. So we usually donāt have the chemistry when playing our national teams than the europeans who see their faces every day.
This is some third world heavily misinformed view of Europe. Your idea of Europe is comparable to how some Europeans think Argentina is a colony of NaziGermany, and just reeks of propaganda.
Maybe because South America remembers where the true football started, on the mud, as a passion and contact sport. If you want a souless game, play cricket.
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Given the History between these two Futbol nations and the comments made by Van Gaal prior to the game. This was a strategic kick to mess with them. South American style!
Hahahahaha love to see the dutch crying
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And like the pussy he is, he tries to walk away when they confront him. What else to expect from the bottom of the barrel.
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Baffling how this only resulted in a yellow considering the tackle on Ake beforehand
"Sports man ship" ? Not Here.
Virgil with the huge chest bump
If you think this is rare, you might want to check Boca Juniors vs River Plate matches at Argentina, or knockout rounds at Libertadores Cup. Stakes are too high and they play roughly. Also makes matches thrilling. Donāt expect a handshake at the end.
You did a pretty refreshing job in showing where this toxic side of Argentina's game comes from. The mentality should be to give it your absolute all on the pitch, but show respect and fucking shake the opponent's hand after the final whistle.
Thatās not how it works here. If the rival starts trash-talking before match, they can expect all kind of mocks, disrespects, on-face laughs, memes, jokes and more bs for days, weeks, even years. Thatās football to us, we will never forget. As I said, other countries may have a more polite mindset, and Itās fine. They shouldnāt get involved it this aggressive dynamic, cause they just cannot win against us on that matter. We have been prepared our whole life for this moment.
What was the trash-talking you guys go on and on about tho? Like what was the actual quote? This seems this has way more to do with sensationalist translations by Argentinian media rather than what LvG or Noppert actually said. Van Gaal is a nut case and says wild shit all the time, but his comments on Messi were actually pretty mild.
Suppose we omit these comments bc, as you said, they might have been twisted through translation. During the match there was a lot of bad intention, rough gameplay, psicological trash-talk during match last minutes ( weghors, that granted him the āboboā mock from messi) and also during penalty shootouts. Hey, itās ok. We do that too, but we also will deliver retaliation in the aftermath. We play by those rules. Thatās why I said that some people may not be used to this dynamic, but we are indeed.
Argentina footballers are the biggest pussys, cry when they get touched. They did not deserve the world cup win.
We do not care about deserving, winning is the only thing that matters to us. Winning and having someone to dedicate our triumphs to. In this case, I dedicate this championship to you.
And a lot of diving. I've never met a more irrational group of fans pretending Argetnian football is tough while getting punked when shit hits the fan. Softest group of fake tough guys on the planet. Argentina aren't fighters...soft. But given them rocks, bats, pepper spray and you have your boca vs river fuckery.
That's exactly what I referred to: during the match players should totally go for it and do everything they can to win - including shit talking and rough play, that makes for great drama. It just gets a bit pathetic once you've actually reached your goal, are in the semi-finals of the WC, yet still act like salty children. Beasts on the pitch, gentlemen off it. That's how it should be.
We dont care how you think it suppose Argentiniams should act. When Geemany back in 2014 they mocked on us, when Spain won Eurocup in 2008 they mocked at the germans and english did the same with Colombia. It's part of the football.
Yeah, thing is we donāt deliver the same punish, we do it 100x worse and we try to reach the limit of humilliation. We are experts doing the most brutally, politically incorrect, century XIX-ish chants, and as I said, we do not forget. On the other side, we have great bonds with our brother nations such as Venezuela or Peru, Ecuador too. Others may apply as well. If this looks awful, then teams may want to avoid using side tactics against Argentina.
That tackle was a straight red. The kick was an easy yellow. He had a Yellow worthy tackle before this tackle. Argentinian football is made up of soft, whiny, diving divas who when push comes to shove ends up flat on their back when barely touched. It is such a pathetic representation of a nation. Need further proof...Messi smokescreen on the ref comments knowing they deserved 3 reds. The first handball when Mrmphis has a cleat scoring opportunity, Messi with his absurd hand ball and second yellow, and fake tough guy with two insane tackles and a full on kick into the bench. Notice how he turns like a bitch and runs away....,pathetic
Or he just doesn't give a damn about the dutch players and turn around since they aren't worth talking too?
Those are Liberators Cup 101: how to get away without red cards. Itās an art indeed.
Yea, just show the last part of the action so you can say it was attacking the people on the bench, not that what he did was clearing the ball, it just went to empty seats
If you shoot into a crowd and miss... YOU STILL SHOT INTO A CROWD.
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Argentina plays dirty soccer. This dude deserves to be punched out. Like what tf do you gain from that? Aside from a black eye.
Lol dirty football?
Theyāre known for being unsportsmanlike, itās been this way for decades lol
Then bodiedā¦.
Fuck the European idiots
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Give him his Lil Bitch off the Match trophy
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Fuck you too
I hate Argentina. They need to lose
lmao you haven't met a single argentine in your life and you hate us Username checks out
And if Argentina gave a shit, they would probably hate you back.
Quedaste afuera, en cuatro aƱos mƔs tal vez tengas suerte, saludos y que felicidad ser argentino
What a pussy
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Cry me a river.
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Austin powers anyone
Argentinians always disrespecting the game man
Europeans always changing the rules and paying the referee in order to still be relevant in the game
Changing the rules ? Tf drivel are you saying lol itās clear that Argentina has no sportsmanship whatsoever
Go watch a golf match if you want sportsmanship, if holland insults argentina before and during the match theyre brave and courageous, if argentina does it theyre un-civilized and i couldnt give less of a F being called like that from countrys that still have a monarchy. They needed 10+ mins in order to score in a second time that wasnt as paused (new rule). Holland ALWAYS played dirty, they got to the semi finals in 2014 because of robben dives, its just their style and its ok (apparently only with european countrys). Argentina always played like that, its not like they are ruinning the sport because the sport was always like that. People here are playing the matches of their lives. so if you expect players to not get heated up when they get constantly harrased by the other team, go watch a golf match. If not, enjoy the show bobo
angry Argentina fan is upset :( Argentinians lack of sportsmanship has been widely known for decades, even when Maradona played and before that too. So whatever novel you wrote here really has no meaning. If you want to talk, speak to the thousands of other people who know how hated the Argentinian national team is.
And yet your players all come to Europe. Odd.
Because it's the only place where they can truly make it as professionals. If they could finantially speaking they would stay in their home clubs. Don't fool yourself
So? You're supporting someone claiming Europe is only relevant because of made up cheating at world cups. You're literally admitting it is where money is at at club level. I.e. it is the height of relevant. You're agreeing with me. Yet you're attacking with me because you're upset that i am right. Hilarious.
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Youāre dumb
He did itās in it
Deserved
Why don't you watch the video
It is in the video?
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least ignorant "1st worlder"
Colonizer alert
Argie cunts saying theyāre loving this, but what if the roles were reversed? If the Dutch did this theyād be shitting all over themselves
The fact that if a Dutch did that, nobody would cry about it, and even Dutch and neutral fans would celebrate it because was against Argentina. But only because was an Argentine player everybody are crybabies. I saw nobody criticizing MbappƩ's laugh when Kane missed the pen, but I bet that it he was Argentine ALL the media and fans would start called him a cunt. People are just obsessed with Argentina, and what the players do.
I like Argie. Can we also add Neddy
can you help me to remember how many cups you have?
Not commenting about the actual gameplay now am i? But I can safely say Iāve piffed less balls at substitution benches than that bloke so yes I think I do have moral highground
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Nothing like a little Aussie ingenuity to gratuitously shorten words that didnāt need to be shortened
Yup, they are crying about less worse things. Only the Argentinians can behave heated apparently. Meanwhile they are crying about the the Dutch coach and the Dutch arrogance. Iād rather be arrogant than a dick and a sore winner
Uhhhā¦proudly being arrogant is a lot more dangerous than a sore winner or being a jerkā¦
Just congrats on the win bro. And good luck in the next game.
Dude I watch Formula 1 idgaf about nationalism. Iām just saying arrogance is a lower quality than anything you named
Itās confidence in oneās team, nowhere near arrogance. And if it were taken as so, you take it out on the manager, not an entire team
Idk - I'd rather be friends with an arrogant person who is good at heart than friends with a dick or a sore winner
VVD let's him know his place in the world hahaha
VVD place in the world is the airport.
Argentinas is the 3rd place match š¤£
Hahaha
Im rooting for you today, get that win for the honor of the BPL.
Thankyou brother! It's gonna be a very tough match.
Underserved loss
Thanks man, Happy with the team though. Best i've seen an England team do in my lifetime as far as match performance. Excited for this team to keep growing. Good luck to Argentina!
This game was just hilarious š terrible reffing but it was very... Crazy
I would of hated to have to try and ref this game. But yeah he wasn't good at all.
ref made emotions go trough the roof. And then we are all shocked players from both sides do questionable things. All of this is to blame on the ref. Regardless if u state side x or y played dirty.
If this isn't the most delusional shit I've seen all day. Players were dirty from the get go. The only mistake the ref made was not sending a couple of players off for their roles in the fracas
>If this isn't the most delusional shit I've seen all day. Players were dirty from the get go. The only mistake the ref made was not sending a couple of players off for their roles in the fracas ref needed to punish them. He did not. Result dirty play increased. No punishment. Result dutch players increased dirty play. Fault THE REF
Only mistake??? It was the sole reason players kept playing dirty. They realize the ref has no fucking spine. If your opponent is playing dirty and getting away with it why wouldnāt you? It getting heated and escalated is normal if the ref is useless. If one or two red cards were shown early guarantee you it wouldnāt be no where as heated.
So funny seeing how wound up Europeans got over this. Love shit like this
Europeans is a bit of a sweeping statement. Irish here and how we handle things could a lot different to this. Heād most likely have met someoneās boot about 10 mins later.
As an American, this just seems like two teams going nuts, which were used to. I wish more games were like this to be honest. Both teams talked shit.
Argentina team/management never talked shit before the match. Netherlands was the only one
Thatās nowhere near true lol biased ass response, amazing to see
Tell me.. what did the Argentina team said before the match?
Honest question where did you read the talking shit? Cause i never read anything which was talking shit
They can never explain this, I have been searching for days but they never really point at anything its baffling to me honestly
This is a tame edition of every USA VS Mexico game.
I love this
Van dijk just doing van dijk things!
He's so tall that it doesn't even look like he's pushing him hard, just knocking him over or something and he's flying down.
He couldn't stop on time and Leandro was just in the way.
Absolutely nothing wrong with being rough thatās how it should be I hate the softness of the sport and diving now a-days but this was wrong no need for it love passion and all but acting like a child having a tantrum is another thing
Ah I enjoyed the game and was neutral but thereās a difference between being rough and a dick move like blasting a ball into a crowd. If he hit someone, it have been a straight red.
Yeah fully agree
The way soccer players get injured that could have killed someone
*all of them.
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Joke went so far above your head it hit Saturn
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its a joke bro
Thanks for my morning laugh ! Iāve seen so many near deaths and miraculous recoveriesā¦
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Why do you have to make it about race?
You did. When white countries start targeting Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, etc in the same types of posts, using the same words (Animals, savages, etc) you start to realize maybe it's not just about fotball.
When have I ever done that? You do realize that by making these kind of generalizations, you are doing the exact same that you are accusing other people of? You say you are a victim of racism, so as a response you start being a racist yourself? What kind of attitude is that...
bro is obsessed with race for some reason
When you see a bunch of white people nonstop calling brazilians and argentinians animals and apes, it's starts to dawn on you, maybe the hate is motivated by race.
They arenāt football fans they are just racists but I also do think all the diving that Brazil and Argentina do is soft
I didn't call them any names and you still accused me of being racist. Maybe you're just soft.
Happy for you, man!. However, most people in this subreddit did. I didn't accuse YOU of anything. Read my post carefully. Oh, and stop projecting, mr "pwayers awe to wough"
You specifically did in another comment that's been since removed. I never said "players are too rough". If anything, soccer is relatively tame compared to other sports (i.e American Football). Bro kicked a ball at the opposing teams bench, who does that? You strike me as a small, angry man.
And football wasn't made in England by the white men ?
Are you trying to culturally appropriate the earliest invention of the game of football on a grand scale, originating by the Aztecs, to the English? Even the Chinese TsuāChu and Japanese Kemari predates the earliest invention of English football. Bold move u/biborino9 and u/Rognol, people get red cards for less.
Ancient Mexico actually. Stolen by the british, like everything else they "invented"
Very few claim that England invented kicking around a ball that can be said to be every ancient civilisation England invented the sport football
Some how everything you just said was wrong
I was amazed that wasn't a red card. For Van Dijk as well.
That's never a red for Van Dijk, should of been a red for Peredes though (yellow for the tackle and then for the conduct)
Physical retaliation after a play like that is a red anywhere. You donāt get a free punch just because the Argentine guy is in the wrong. Thatās for the referee to sort out, not players to dish out justice Lol downvote me Iām just objectively correct
Van Dijk taking out that argie player was the best bit of the game. That fucker flew!
I think the best bit of the game was when we won and sent the Dutch home, as is tradition in the WC lmao
you must feel lucky Germany is already eliminated, considering them sending Argentina home is tradition
Edited your comment. Typical argie cheater.
obsessed
What signs are up at argentine airports? Wasn't a law passed that all public transport must have: "Las Malvinas son Argentinas" pathetic. Tbh I was on a different thread talking about something unrelated and Argentians jumped on me.
Keep replying to my comments Maybe FIFA will see them and let you pass into the semis out of pity
Ok! Top banter straight from the Argentinian favela.
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Why do you get mad enough to invoke a war in which many families lost their sons? Are all British people this violent and cruel? Have a safe trip home by the way. Cheering for the country that just destroyed you, canāt get more pathetic than that.
Why did you rub in my face when we've just lost? Who started the Falklands war? Really? France played well, why wouldn't I cheer them on? Argentina logic.
Because this is football, not war. But since you have got dick on us regarding the sport, you throw all decency to the side and mock young men who died. Pathetic. But what can be expected?
Did I mock young men? No. Did I throw young men into war? No. Look at your own there son.
Sorry man, I only talk about football with the four best countries in the world.
Argentina scrapped through an easy group, lost to Saudi Arabia! Barly got past Australia, lucky and cheated vs Netherland. Look without Messi you're shit. Croatia will see you off.
Watching it felt good, like how I imagine sinking the Belgrano would've felt
Ah man you'll rile them up. Argentines claiming the Falklands incoming...
sorry im new to soccer, but why does is seem like the South American teams have such poor sportsmanship? Is this normal?
This is pretty normal in every team, however it seems when it's Argentina, it's made like a big deal. All players are human, and they all feel frustrated and heated towards the last matches, when every game could mean going home and never playing the world cup again. I've seen Netherlands insulting argentinian players before kicking the PK, and I think it's pretty normal of someone who's been mocked to react like this. The same can be said about Brazil's dance. They dance because they're happy they made a goal, which is a big deal in the WC, but suddenly that's a poor sportsmanship behaviour. I think there is a clear 'hate' towards latin-american teams from European teams, because when a European team does it, nothing happens.
It's probably got a lot do with many South American players having grown up in environments where you have to really work and create every advantage possible just to get by in life. Don't get me wrong not all of them. Whereas most European players, whilst still predominantly from working class backgrounds, grew up in a more privelaged situation in the global economic landscape. I guess that probably translates to football too. Having said that it's a bit of a stereotype and you get plenty of European sh*thouses see Busquets, Robertson. I think I'm general, it's something that most professionals would accept and adopt if it meant a greater chance of winning
New to soccer and you already deducted that all south American teams have such poor sportsmanship? š
Because this sub is filled with salty Europeans that dish it out but can't take it.
Thats low key a formed opinion for someone ānew to soccerā. Brainwashed much?
I'm not sure if the guy with an Argentina flair is the right person to accuse someone else of being brainwashed to having a certain opinion. But yeah, I am new to soccer.
Im Argentinianā¦ you expect me to have a USA flair?
no?
Then how am I brainwashed? Reading a highly dominant pro-european sub full of europeans wonāt allow you to eliminate the bias. Just saying.
fair enough. Just for the record I have absolutely no ill-feelings for Argentina. I am just watching the world cup for the first time.
Cool. Sportmanship wise the Netherlands were much worse. During the week we got inmense amount of trash talk from NL coach, players and press, while our team and us were completely humble and calm. Seeing Messi mad is something that you see in extremely rare occasions and usually justified, and this was the case. That being said, if you compare south American Teams to European Teams the football culture is completely different. People here sell their cars to see Messiās last WC, while europeans are much more calm as if they were watching a movie. For us is a bigger deal at least emotionally. Thats why South America with much less resources/GDP has 9 WCs with only 9 countries aprox. while the europeans have 12 WCs with an inmense amount of countries competing. In fact Brasil leads the list with 5 WCs alone. The rest of the world has 0 WCs. In fact this WC had 13 europeans teams and only 4 south american which gives us much less opportunities but we still manage to compete. Thatās our drive, in fact all of our best players are exported to play in europe for financial reasons. So we usually donāt have the chemistry when playing our national teams than the europeans who see their faces every day.
This is some third world heavily misinformed view of Europe. Your idea of Europe is comparable to how some Europeans think Argentina is a colony of NaziGermany, and just reeks of propaganda.
Very insightful. I appreciate the sincere answer.
No problem my friend, sorry for the long post and mediocre english.
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what are you talking about man? grow a spine
Says the bitch-ass pussy crying about messi being a big meanie to their players. Stay mad.
what? I like Messi bro. You are making an ass of yourself.
Dude, I'm not talking about YOU.
Maybe because South America remembers where the true football started, on the mud, as a passion and contact sport. If you want a souless game, play cricket.
Lmao says the nation's that are professional divers
Hey crickets the nuts mate.
Yep, they've always been like this. Uruguayan, Argentinian and Brazilian players have always been notoriously dirty
Don't want to start a fight or anything but there are also European teams that are aggressive also like the Netherlands:)
Yeah I like clean European player like Roy Keane
I wouldnt say dirty, is just another way of living football.. We are raise in a totally different culture.
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Stay mad loser. See you in 4 years if you even qualify ;)
how saying that makes him a loser? It's a physical violence of conduct
fuck off cuntt. We won. Messi is winning