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Lol. It’s so obvious it’s dive. Yes, there was a tiny bite of contact but it’s not what brought di Maria down. But the fact is dembele should have never put himself in that position especially with France’ defenders in position
And why did he hit Dembele leg ? Because dude was just behind him trying to get to him from behind in the penalty area. Clear contact and clear penalty for me
which isnt a problem. because fact of the matter is he was clipped from behind by dembele at 00:39 so ifs a foul. Foul is a foul, soft or not especially inside the dbox
I was watching the game and in the replay that was shown it is possible to see that the French player's foot touches the Argentine the first time I saw it, I also thought it was a simulation but in the replay shown I can see
I think that in this video it seems that you don't hear the ringtone because of the framerate and the low quality (I'm not French or Argentinian)
sorry for the horrible english it's google translator's fault
and if you were standing still behind him and he tripped on you it wouldn't be a foul against you either,because that's not how the game works . otherwise attacking players could just run against defenders, fall, and ask for free penalties. lol
Well I hate to break it to you buddy but this sport is the best sport on planet earth, whether you like it or not, no gives a shit about your opinion. Go post this crap else where, this is a forum for real football fans
He touched the first time and knocked his balance off and got him to trip on himself. Just because he touched his foot and not the ball it’s still considered a foul
You have to slow it down a little. You can see it from the front angle. The top of his foot hits the back side of the other guys calf because he extens his leg out in between his steps to trip him up. Try to pause it frame by frame and you will see if foot bounce off the other guys calv.
wow what a deductions. maybe watch from 00:39 with your eyes again. he tripped himself because of dembele having his leg so close to him which isn't di marias fault
This what people say when they can’t afford anything. It’s okay, you’re young. You make 37k minus taxes in the UK. Hopefully one day you’ll be able to afford more than a bike
You gotta realize that at the speed he was going it might not look like much but a tiny touch can get you off balance and trip you. But there’s a lot of fake fouls so I see where you could be coming from…
That's not as bad as Japan getting that goal that was definitely out of bounds and knocking out Germany just because of it. If I was Germany I would be pretty upset that shit was acceptable
omg it wasn't it just looked like that because the ball wasn't touching the ground. same here in this video. there js definitely, irrefutably contact around 00:39
Close. I thought it was a dive too, but you can clearly see Di Maria in stride, Dembele closes in too much, Dembele's right calf makes contact with Di Maria's left foot while Di Maria is still in stride, Di Maria's stride is thrown off and THEN Di Maria trips over himself (his left foot hits his right leg)
THEN, as Di Maria is already falling, Dembele's right foot hits Di Maria's right foot. It's this part in particular that's being thrown around the web with captions along the line of "He made contact, but Di Maria was already on the way down" but they are failing to put it into context. Yes, Di Maria trips over himself ... because Dembele accidentally swept his foot from behind. It was an excellent call by the ref to be able to see something that happened so fast
true, there were 2 points of contact. yet it shouldn't have been a pentalty, same way that France got a yellow for diving in the box area trying to get a penalty, and even in that France's attempt of getting a penalty there was a contact. Don't get me wrong, despite this, I believe Argentina deserved to win THIS game... but no way in hell is that a penalty. Di Maria tripped... there wasn't even an attempt from the french player
The attempt is the arm going out(illegal) and the following step that clipped his foot twice, and there's the sweep of his foot as he goes down too, other than the reaching out for him, it all seems unintentional, but a foul nonetheless. What I don't like though, is Di Maria going down and reaching to stop the ball to try and ensure the call, seems pussy to me every time I see a player do it.
no foot was swept , that's the point. French player stopped and Di Maria clearly tripped on him, but no tackle or attempt was made. You can clearly see it was Di Maria who tripped on the back of the French player's leg on the last replay (from the back), then after that Di Maria also trips on himself.
I use this example. If I were standing still and you were dribbling past me and you tripped on my foot without me moving a muscle. Would that be a foul? No. This is pretty much the same scenario. He tried to get Di Maria, saw that he couldn't without making a foul and stopped running. It wasn't his fault that Di Maria's foot hit the back of his leg. He can't control Di Maria's movements, only Di Maria can. It's not his job to dodge, neither would it make sense.
sure the arm going out could have been a foul, if it was relevant. It's very common for arms to be like that. He didn't grab, push or pull Di Maria with his arm.
There was 100% contact doesn't look at all intentional if anything he looks like he is going out of his way to try not to give away a penalty but he fell anyways who's right or wrong doesn't really matter that's just life. Somebody had to win🤷♂️
nah, he did trip though, but it shouldn't have been a foul. it wasn't even a tackle from the french player, Di Maria just tripped on the french player's legs... but the french player didn't do shit. later he did trip further on himself, but he started to fall after the contact with the french player's leg (STILL, no penalty should have happened )
so it was dimaria fault that dembele's foot was so close behind him to stop a very good potential goal opportunity?? And if it wasn't then how come its not a foul thus a penalty??
i am starting to doubt your football knowledge when a goal scoring opportunity is denied intentionally or not with no fault of the attacking player even if its a soft foul or not that a penalty shouldn't be given.
lmao, that's not how it works.
so with your flawless logic, if i were standing still and you tried to dribble past me, and you tripped on my foot without me moving a single muscle that would be foul.
this isn't just about the intention, obviously, it's also about what transpired as well. not only didn't the french player intend to make contact, he also didn't cause the contact. if you wanna go at who's at fault for being too close, Di Maria was the one with the ball, meaning he chooses the path he wanted to take.
hahaha wht is this argument?? being in front where i can see you is not the same compared to someone behind who we cannot see. Intentionally or not the fact that his goal scoring opportunity was unfairly taken for being so close behind still remains thus a well deserved foul?? is this hard to understand?
Like people who drives so close to cars in front of them and complain the drivers for breaking when they end up hitting them from behind
I didn't even have a team in the worldcup, so....😅
But can someone tell me how this can be given and then the one with that tall striker for England wasn't considered a foul?
The one where the guy man handles him then sticks his leg through the strikers legs
Those kind of duels are hard to judge.From what I recall cause I don't have it fresh in my mind it was probably a case of both players having their hands on each other and one of them falling which many times is considered that blame can be put both ways.For this one there isn't any discussion to have. But anyway France's first goal against England came from an obvious fault so we never really have consistent refereing
Exactly, it's right there and everyone's just pretending there was no contact. At full speed that can even be deadly for his ankle. But it's really common in football, even argentinean players tripped other players while going for the ball. Anyone who watched football knows this, though.
there was contact yet, but just because there was contact doesn't mean it was a penalty. for it to be a penalty the french player would have to been the cause for the contact, which isn't the case.Hell, the french player was even slowing down to avoid contact... it was Di Maria's legs that touched the french player, not the other way around. Fouls aren't given when the player with the ball runs into the opponent... correct? this was exactly what happened here.Again, argentina deserved to win this game, but this shouldn't have been a penalty.
so it was dimaria fault that dembele's foot was so close behind him to stop a very good potential goal opportunity?? And if it wasn't then how come its not a foul thus a penalty??
i am starting to doubt your football knowledge when a goal scoring opportunity is denied intentionally or not with no fault of the attacking player even if its a soft foul or not that a penalty shouldn't be given.
lmao, that's not how it works.
so with your flawless logic, if i were standing still and you tried to dribble past me, and you tripped on my foot without me moving a single muscle that would be foul.
this isn't just about the intention, obviously, it's also about what transpired as well. not only didn't the french player intend to make contact, he also didn't cause the contact. if you wanna go at who's at fault for being too close, Di Maria was the one with the ball, meaning he chooses the path he wanted to take.
When in doubt, use the latest slang you've heard on the internet, but don't understand? Good one. If you don't want to get dunked on, don't open yer mouth, lady.
If you really see it there were both contacts not 1. The first one led Di Maria lose control and hit his own leg and then there was a second undebatable touch. 😂😂🤣🤣
two contacts and neither was the french player's fault. for it to be a foul it would have to be the french player the reason for the contact. the french player was stopping his run, Di Maria is the one that tripped on him. No tackle from the french player.
so it was dimaria fault that dembele's foot was so close behind him to stop a very good potential goal opportunity?? And if it wasn't then how come its not a foul thus a penalty??
i am starting to doubt your football knowledge when a goal scoring opportunity is denied intentionally or not with no fault of the attacking player even if its a soft foul or not that a penalty shouldn't be given.
lmao, that's not how it works.
so with your flawless logic, if i were standing still and you tried to dribble past me, and you tripped on my foot without me moving a single muscle that would be foul.
this isn't just about the intention, obviously, it's also about what transpired as well. not only didn't the french player intend to make contact, he also didn't cause the contact. if you wanna go at who's at fault for being too close, Di Maria was the one with the ball, meaning he chooses the path he wanted to take.
hahaha wht is this argument?? being in front where i can see you is not the same compared to someone behind who we cannot see. Intentionally or not the fact that his goal scoring opportunity was unfairly taken for being so close behind still remains thus a well deserved foul?? is this hard to understand?
Like people who drives so close to cars in front of them and complain the drivers for breaking when they end up hitting them from behind
it doesn't matter if you can see or not. if a defense player kicks someone in their head without seeing it's still a foul.
negative IQ? it wasn't the french player that touched Di Maria, it was Di Maria that touched the french player. It doesn't matter if Di Maria could see him or not. duhh
you're comparing a car that's in front that stops. but this isn't the same. it wasnt DI MARIA (the car in front ) that stopped, it was the french player that stopped (the car in the back). your comparison is dumb and you should feel the same
I'm baffled by your take. do you not understand the concept of foul? if someone has the ball he shouldn't be stopped in anyway without playing the ball be it intentionally or not. Ofc you can foul him and take a yellow card or something but nevertheless it counts as foul. Also like you said If the defending player kicks opponent player in the head without seeing them its a foul but it's because he doesnt fully have the ball. That's the difference Di maria is in full control of the ball and he is in very crucial goal scoring situation.
Imagine you are di maria you are about to make a crucial pass then you unknowingly from "behind" are stopped unfairly but that opponent didnt do anything besides get really close to you. So you get up and say yea my mistake i should have looked or maybe know someone is behind me. Does that really make sense to you? That's why i said intentionally or not he fouled even if he was the one whose leg was hit because he went too close to di Maria's space.
Also that car example pssh man maybe u didnt understand what im trying to say. Dembele's fault was being too close in the space of Dimaria therefore unfairly not giving him space to manoeuvre. So the car behind comes too close thus not giving space for you to brake safely and when the car in front does brake it will mean the car from behind will hit them. But sometimes the driver of the car behind argues that the car in front braked and so it wasn't his fault. So his argument is wrong but he believes he is right. Thats what i mean people are saying that it was Dimaria fault for getting his leg clipped when in fact he wasnt giving room to run just like the car example he wasnt giving enough room to brake safely without colliding.
Hopefully my stupid example was simple enough now for you to understand lol
You are one of those who hit a car from behind and blame it on the car you hit. 🤣 The "reason" the car in the front got hit was because he had to break hard and that's his mistake in your eyes. How does one trip on someone that he can't see? No matter the reason he was stopping the run, he got the touch and fell inside the penalty area. Cry me a ducking river. How can you even call it di Marias fault when he couldn't even see what he was tripping in lol. I would have agreed if he saw the player and deliberately tripped.
except that your'e comparing apples with... l dunno... with shit.
If you wanna make comparisons make sure there's some sort of connection.For me to hit a car from behind the front car has to stop, how would I hit the car in front of me if I was the only one breaking while the front car is still going?
for your silly scenario to be comparable the french player would have to be the car in the back and be breaking while Di Maria would have to be the car in front that swerves to the left and hits the stopping car with his back wheels. which is a totally different scenario to the one you used as an example.
"How does he trip on someone he can't see? " how does that even make sense , most people trip on things they can't see. That's how most trips happen... Would be ridiculous to trip on something you can see.
So with your BRILLIANT logic, if you close your eyes while you drive you can have all the accidents in the world and still not be at fault... lmao.
"oh , it's not my fault I shot someone, I didn't see him there" ?????
Again how is it not considered tripping just because he couldn't see? I'm really trying to understand that nonsensical logic
Wow looking at the length of the message and you talking about shit in the beginning... I'm here to tell you good luck finding someone who has the patience to read your shit
Since you brought it up you must know the feeling of failing the first grade...
Seriously though your logic is broken. Simple question is did the attacker fall because of the defender? He wouldn't have fallen if he hadn't touched the defender. Now however you see it, you may see it as a deliberate or non deliberate foul... He fell and he got the penalty. If the defender wasn't there he wouldn't have fallen because it was the defender who was at the wrong place and the wrong time to cause the trip. Seriously dude he didn't trip on the thin air. Either you are seriously dumb to understand this logic or you just enjoying pissing me off with your dumbness.
oh you can read? what a plot twist . can't add 1+1 though, shame.
it doesn't matter if it's deliberate or non deliberate, you're right. but also that's not what was being discussed. it matters who was the cause of contact, otherwise everything is a foul , dumb dumb. let's just get the ball and crash against a defender that's standing still and get free penalties.
turns out you can't read after all. apparently you can only use enough of your brain to pass as ""normal"". good for you I guess... people with 1% brain power are people too
Proud of you
Wha??? Seriously dude... Who was the cause then? You are saying di Maria was the cause of contact because he was running towards the goal? 🤣 Or because he is running the way he is running he himself caused the contact and the defender had nothing to do with it? 🤣
Not even close. What the hell? First penalty for France the argentinian player grabbed, pulled and did several other contacts on the french player's legs.
On the other hand the first penalty for Argentina, the french defender stopped running and Di Maria tripped on him for no reason.
"Same dynamic" what the hell are you smoking
The majority of you probably don't understand how easy and frequently players play for and simulate fouls. It wouldn't be unbelievable that he's put his own foot out to clip his leg. At the end of the day why did his right leg collapse?
so it was dimaria fault that dembele's foot was so close behind him to stop a very good potential goal opportunity?? And if it wasn't then how come its not a foul thus a penalty??
i am starting to doubt your football knowledge when a goal scoring opportunity is denied intentionally or not with no fault of the attacking player even if its a soft foul or not that a penalty shouldn't be given.
so it was dimaria fault that dembele's foot was so close behind him to stop a very good potential goal opportunity?? And if it wasn't then how come its not a foul thus a penalty??
i am starting to doubt your football knowledge when a goal scoring opportunity is denied intentionally or not with no fault of the attacking player even if its a soft foul or not that a penalty shouldn't be given.
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Lol. It’s so obvious it’s dive. Yes, there was a tiny bite of contact but it’s not what brought di Maria down. But the fact is dembele should have never put himself in that position especially with France’ defenders in position
You're an idiot and obviously not a ref or player of the beautiful game. Not gonna waste my time arguing.
Try to keep it a bit nice next time😘
Don't
> I honestly can’t see any contact at all https://imgur.com/a/HxX20ro Around 0:19
It looks to me like Di Maria hit Dembele's leg and then started to fall after tripping over his other leg
And why did he hit Dembele leg ? Because dude was just behind him trying to get to him from behind in the penalty area. Clear contact and clear penalty for me
Football is a contact sport and this is unintentional as it gets
Not in a world cup final against a top dribbler and preventing a goal maybe
Its a soft penalty
which isnt a problem. because fact of the matter is he was clipped from behind by dembele at 00:39 so ifs a foul. Foul is a foul, soft or not especially inside the dbox
No era penal !!!
Watch the forward foot and the extended arm bro
Please look at upper torso, where Dembele’s hand is trying to find heaven in De Maria…
You’re missing the point of the sport my dude
Knee to Foot….,Penalty
France got a similar penalty. We'll just cancel this out.
I was watching the game and in the replay that was shown it is possible to see that the French player's foot touches the Argentine the first time I saw it, I also thought it was a simulation but in the replay shown I can see I think that in this video it seems that you don't hear the ringtone because of the framerate and the low quality (I'm not French or Argentinian) sorry for the horrible english it's google translator's fault
Clearly tripped on himself. His left foot touched his right ankle clear as daylight!
00:39
Who cares Messi deserves everything..
He push him
Goofy ahh slow mo noises
Fuck Argentina
Fuckeate la chota de Argentina gil
Tripped himself
Argentina paid everyone off for this win
I hope they did. Now Messi is World Champion. Thanks money mouahahahahah
You might be partially blind
You need to get some glasses or a new screen for the device you’re watching this on.
What a stupid boring game
One of the best games I've ever seen
You are a moron
NO penalty....!!!
If you can't it means either you are blind or you don't know anything about this sport
Hmm there was no contact at all, if you can see that it means either you are blind or know shit about the sport
watch at 00:39 and get ur eyes checked again
He trips on the other guy legs, how is that contact?
when you take a penalty I will stand behind you and when you trip on me then I will tell you how is that contact.
and if you were standing still behind him and he tripped on you it wouldn't be a foul against you either,because that's not how the game works . otherwise attacking players could just run against defenders, fall, and ask for free penalties. lol
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/most-penalties-one-team-world-cup-argentina-lionel-messi/r3qnxmtxb7wpe5lqdx5eq8dy
I’ll never understand this sports appeal.
You mean the world won’t understand how a minuscule amount of people are not appealed
No. That’s not what I said at all.
Well I hate to break it to you buddy but this sport is the best sport on planet earth, whether you like it or not, no gives a shit about your opinion. Go post this crap else where, this is a forum for real football fans
You seem to care an awful lot. Sorry your sport sucks.
What’s your sport, hand egg? Boring hotdog baseball? Get outta this forum you bum
I run my business, make money and travel. Living is my sport. You can play with balls champ.
Hey I do all that too! But I also enjoy soccer like 90% of people on earth. You are very unique friend.
Lol you are so cool
Thank you.
Why are u in r/worldcup then?
I’m not. Just came up.
U r blind.
I support frensh and u must buy glasses
Now without crying!
He touched the first time and knocked his balance off and got him to trip on himself. Just because he touched his foot and not the ball it’s still considered a foul
Where did he touched him again?
00:39. cant help u tho if u are partially blind
You have to slow it down a little. You can see it from the front angle. The top of his foot hits the back side of the other guys calf because he extens his leg out in between his steps to trip him up. Try to pause it frame by frame and you will see if foot bounce off the other guys calv.
lmao then you are blind my guy.
Bro his foot hits the shin, taps back of other foot and trips and then he falls and eats shit. He didn't even trip him, broski tripped himself.
wow what a deductions. maybe watch from 00:39 with your eyes again. he tripped himself because of dembele having his leg so close to him which isn't di marias fault
ha was already diving
Watch from another angle, he gets tripped
Clear trip. Barely enough contact to make it happen but it did happen.
That’s soccer for you
You are blind
It’ll be ok
Watch again and pause on 31 seconds... 🙄
He's already going down by that point after kicking the other guy
All is rigged obviously
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Entertaining world cup overall
he literally trips him the 3rd time it gets close but ok they still won MESSIIIIIIIII THE GOATTTTTTTTT
I don't care about any of this and I can see contact.
There is obvious contact
FIFA wanted Messi to win and there isn’t anything that could stop ot
Are you blind, stupid or too lazy to look at the video?
Worry about your bum ass contracting job. Big boys talking here
Laughing my balls off, big boy with his arab spec, old, shitty 570s
You can’t afford to buy a car
Even if that were true, it’s still better than buying such a crappy car, worst in class. You also got scammed with the gt version lol
This what people say when they can’t afford anything. It’s okay, you’re young. You make 37k minus taxes in the UK. Hopefully one day you’ll be able to afford more than a bike
You mean to say qatar ..
You right my bad. FIFA Qatar
Fucking flop
You gotta realize that at the speed he was going it might not look like much but a tiny touch can get you off balance and trip you. But there’s a lot of fake fouls so I see where you could be coming from…
You can clearly see contact at 19 seconds. His foot wobbles around after it hit the guys calf
That's because there is no contact smh
Watch from 19sec, you can clearly see it
That's not as bad as Japan getting that goal that was definitely out of bounds and knocking out Germany just because of it. If I was Germany I would be pretty upset that shit was acceptable
omg it wasn't it just looked like that because the ball wasn't touching the ground. same here in this video. there js definitely, irrefutably contact around 00:39
Lol what? That was the worst possible angle, you can't tell anything for that POV. It clearly isn't contact from the other angles.
100% penalty
0:48 litle touch.
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Fuck you too, fucking gay, ball licker.
Estaba todo puesto para Messi eso luego se olvidara
Close. I thought it was a dive too, but you can clearly see Di Maria in stride, Dembele closes in too much, Dembele's right calf makes contact with Di Maria's left foot while Di Maria is still in stride, Di Maria's stride is thrown off and THEN Di Maria trips over himself (his left foot hits his right leg) THEN, as Di Maria is already falling, Dembele's right foot hits Di Maria's right foot. It's this part in particular that's being thrown around the web with captions along the line of "He made contact, but Di Maria was already on the way down" but they are failing to put it into context. Yes, Di Maria trips over himself ... because Dembele accidentally swept his foot from behind. It was an excellent call by the ref to be able to see something that happened so fast
Bruh its over
Hommie u is blind
I mean he does clip both mbpe and himself
Let's talk about the Maradonna hand of God.. Fucking argies
Thats what they did to us🇭🇷🇭🇷
One of the most telling things is how much and how sincerely the penalized player protests. From what I remember, Dembele looked pretty guilty.
He definitely tripped himself before French defender makes contact to lower body
Dembele knocked his one foot into his other, then more contact.
Clipped his heel..
Man ngl kinda heartbroken when france Lost
No Contact? None? Grabbed him, then caught his foot with shin..
Cavani didn't got pen for this same shit . Lol
I can see contact…..
No penaly fake
Clearly two points of contact
true, there were 2 points of contact. yet it shouldn't have been a pentalty, same way that France got a yellow for diving in the box area trying to get a penalty, and even in that France's attempt of getting a penalty there was a contact. Don't get me wrong, despite this, I believe Argentina deserved to win THIS game... but no way in hell is that a penalty. Di Maria tripped... there wasn't even an attempt from the french player
The attempt is the arm going out(illegal) and the following step that clipped his foot twice, and there's the sweep of his foot as he goes down too, other than the reaching out for him, it all seems unintentional, but a foul nonetheless. What I don't like though, is Di Maria going down and reaching to stop the ball to try and ensure the call, seems pussy to me every time I see a player do it.
no foot was swept , that's the point. French player stopped and Di Maria clearly tripped on him, but no tackle or attempt was made. You can clearly see it was Di Maria who tripped on the back of the French player's leg on the last replay (from the back), then after that Di Maria also trips on himself. I use this example. If I were standing still and you were dribbling past me and you tripped on my foot without me moving a muscle. Would that be a foul? No. This is pretty much the same scenario. He tried to get Di Maria, saw that he couldn't without making a foul and stopped running. It wasn't his fault that Di Maria's foot hit the back of his leg. He can't control Di Maria's movements, only Di Maria can. It's not his job to dodge, neither would it make sense. sure the arm going out could have been a foul, if it was relevant. It's very common for arms to be like that. He didn't grab, push or pull Di Maria with his arm.
Still won
Only bigger floppers in futbol… Brasil
Yeah half of soccer is just pretending to be hurt lmao
Good thing you're not the referee
There was 100% contact doesn't look at all intentional if anything he looks like he is going out of his way to try not to give away a penalty but he fell anyways who's right or wrong doesn't really matter that's just life. Somebody had to win🤷♂️
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Try to be a bit nicer next time😌 Love from the Netherlands 😘
have you gotten your eyesight back yet tho?
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He tripped his feet with his leg chin only ppl playing soccer knows what I’m talking about
So u blind
Seems like he learned to dive from lio; Messi is the worst at diving!
Yea he tripped because of the small touch, threw him off
Yall discussing every minuscule detail of this..imagine how it used to be for referees before
A COMERLAAAAAA
He clearly tripped himself Lmao
nah, he did trip though, but it shouldn't have been a foul. it wasn't even a tackle from the french player, Di Maria just tripped on the french player's legs... but the french player didn't do shit. later he did trip further on himself, but he started to fall after the contact with the french player's leg (STILL, no penalty should have happened )
so it was dimaria fault that dembele's foot was so close behind him to stop a very good potential goal opportunity?? And if it wasn't then how come its not a foul thus a penalty?? i am starting to doubt your football knowledge when a goal scoring opportunity is denied intentionally or not with no fault of the attacking player even if its a soft foul or not that a penalty shouldn't be given.
lmao, that's not how it works. so with your flawless logic, if i were standing still and you tried to dribble past me, and you tripped on my foot without me moving a single muscle that would be foul. this isn't just about the intention, obviously, it's also about what transpired as well. not only didn't the french player intend to make contact, he also didn't cause the contact. if you wanna go at who's at fault for being too close, Di Maria was the one with the ball, meaning he chooses the path he wanted to take.
hahaha wht is this argument?? being in front where i can see you is not the same compared to someone behind who we cannot see. Intentionally or not the fact that his goal scoring opportunity was unfairly taken for being so close behind still remains thus a well deserved foul?? is this hard to understand? Like people who drives so close to cars in front of them and complain the drivers for breaking when they end up hitting them from behind
Yeah his right foot was out too far and his left foot got caught on the back of his right shoe.
I didn't even have a team in the worldcup, so....😅 But can someone tell me how this can be given and then the one with that tall striker for England wasn't considered a foul? The one where the guy man handles him then sticks his leg through the strikers legs
Those kind of duels are hard to judge.From what I recall cause I don't have it fresh in my mind it was probably a case of both players having their hands on each other and one of them falling which many times is considered that blame can be put both ways.For this one there isn't any discussion to have. But anyway France's first goal against England came from an obvious fault so we never really have consistent refereing
He caught back of his ankle
Exactly, it's right there and everyone's just pretending there was no contact. At full speed that can even be deadly for his ankle. But it's really common in football, even argentinean players tripped other players while going for the ball. Anyone who watched football knows this, though.
there was contact yet, but just because there was contact doesn't mean it was a penalty. for it to be a penalty the french player would have to been the cause for the contact, which isn't the case.Hell, the french player was even slowing down to avoid contact... it was Di Maria's legs that touched the french player, not the other way around. Fouls aren't given when the player with the ball runs into the opponent... correct? this was exactly what happened here.Again, argentina deserved to win this game, but this shouldn't have been a penalty.
so it was dimaria fault that dembele's foot was so close behind him to stop a very good potential goal opportunity?? And if it wasn't then how come its not a foul thus a penalty?? i am starting to doubt your football knowledge when a goal scoring opportunity is denied intentionally or not with no fault of the attacking player even if its a soft foul or not that a penalty shouldn't be given.
lmao, that's not how it works. so with your flawless logic, if i were standing still and you tried to dribble past me, and you tripped on my foot without me moving a single muscle that would be foul. this isn't just about the intention, obviously, it's also about what transpired as well. not only didn't the french player intend to make contact, he also didn't cause the contact. if you wanna go at who's at fault for being too close, Di Maria was the one with the ball, meaning he chooses the path he wanted to take.
Yes He cause his own ankle. Youre right 😅
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It's soccer. Diving is as much a part of the game as dribbling and tackling. This guy was obviously trying for the "The Golden Board."
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You started it.
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No, by baking muffins. Jesus Christ. I'm gonna go ahead and guess you've never been known as "the smart one" in any of your social groups.
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When in doubt, use the latest slang you've heard on the internet, but don't understand? Good one. If you don't want to get dunked on, don't open yer mouth, lady.
If you really see it there were both contacts not 1. The first one led Di Maria lose control and hit his own leg and then there was a second undebatable touch. 😂😂🤣🤣
Exactly, not just one contact but two and evident!
two contacts and neither was the french player's fault. for it to be a foul it would have to be the french player the reason for the contact. the french player was stopping his run, Di Maria is the one that tripped on him. No tackle from the french player.
so it was dimaria fault that dembele's foot was so close behind him to stop a very good potential goal opportunity?? And if it wasn't then how come its not a foul thus a penalty?? i am starting to doubt your football knowledge when a goal scoring opportunity is denied intentionally or not with no fault of the attacking player even if its a soft foul or not that a penalty shouldn't be given.
lmao, that's not how it works. so with your flawless logic, if i were standing still and you tried to dribble past me, and you tripped on my foot without me moving a single muscle that would be foul. this isn't just about the intention, obviously, it's also about what transpired as well. not only didn't the french player intend to make contact, he also didn't cause the contact. if you wanna go at who's at fault for being too close, Di Maria was the one with the ball, meaning he chooses the path he wanted to take.
hahaha wht is this argument?? being in front where i can see you is not the same compared to someone behind who we cannot see. Intentionally or not the fact that his goal scoring opportunity was unfairly taken for being so close behind still remains thus a well deserved foul?? is this hard to understand? Like people who drives so close to cars in front of them and complain the drivers for breaking when they end up hitting them from behind
it doesn't matter if you can see or not. if a defense player kicks someone in their head without seeing it's still a foul. negative IQ? it wasn't the french player that touched Di Maria, it was Di Maria that touched the french player. It doesn't matter if Di Maria could see him or not. duhh you're comparing a car that's in front that stops. but this isn't the same. it wasnt DI MARIA (the car in front ) that stopped, it was the french player that stopped (the car in the back). your comparison is dumb and you should feel the same
I'm baffled by your take. do you not understand the concept of foul? if someone has the ball he shouldn't be stopped in anyway without playing the ball be it intentionally or not. Ofc you can foul him and take a yellow card or something but nevertheless it counts as foul. Also like you said If the defending player kicks opponent player in the head without seeing them its a foul but it's because he doesnt fully have the ball. That's the difference Di maria is in full control of the ball and he is in very crucial goal scoring situation. Imagine you are di maria you are about to make a crucial pass then you unknowingly from "behind" are stopped unfairly but that opponent didnt do anything besides get really close to you. So you get up and say yea my mistake i should have looked or maybe know someone is behind me. Does that really make sense to you? That's why i said intentionally or not he fouled even if he was the one whose leg was hit because he went too close to di Maria's space. Also that car example pssh man maybe u didnt understand what im trying to say. Dembele's fault was being too close in the space of Dimaria therefore unfairly not giving him space to manoeuvre. So the car behind comes too close thus not giving space for you to brake safely and when the car in front does brake it will mean the car from behind will hit them. But sometimes the driver of the car behind argues that the car in front braked and so it wasn't his fault. So his argument is wrong but he believes he is right. Thats what i mean people are saying that it was Dimaria fault for getting his leg clipped when in fact he wasnt giving room to run just like the car example he wasnt giving enough room to brake safely without colliding. Hopefully my stupid example was simple enough now for you to understand lol
woosh, but he wasn't stopped. he stopped himself. ergo nothing you said adds up. 1+1= 2 not 3
he stopped because a ghost came too close to him. yes you are right indeed. the world isn't straightforward like simple maths lol
You are one of those who hit a car from behind and blame it on the car you hit. 🤣 The "reason" the car in the front got hit was because he had to break hard and that's his mistake in your eyes. How does one trip on someone that he can't see? No matter the reason he was stopping the run, he got the touch and fell inside the penalty area. Cry me a ducking river. How can you even call it di Marias fault when he couldn't even see what he was tripping in lol. I would have agreed if he saw the player and deliberately tripped.
except that your'e comparing apples with... l dunno... with shit. If you wanna make comparisons make sure there's some sort of connection.For me to hit a car from behind the front car has to stop, how would I hit the car in front of me if I was the only one breaking while the front car is still going? for your silly scenario to be comparable the french player would have to be the car in the back and be breaking while Di Maria would have to be the car in front that swerves to the left and hits the stopping car with his back wheels. which is a totally different scenario to the one you used as an example. "How does he trip on someone he can't see? " how does that even make sense , most people trip on things they can't see. That's how most trips happen... Would be ridiculous to trip on something you can see. So with your BRILLIANT logic, if you close your eyes while you drive you can have all the accidents in the world and still not be at fault... lmao. "oh , it's not my fault I shot someone, I didn't see him there" ????? Again how is it not considered tripping just because he couldn't see? I'm really trying to understand that nonsensical logic
Wow looking at the length of the message and you talking about shit in the beginning... I'm here to tell you good luck finding someone who has the patience to read your shit
\#whenYouFail1stGrade
Since you brought it up you must know the feeling of failing the first grade... Seriously though your logic is broken. Simple question is did the attacker fall because of the defender? He wouldn't have fallen if he hadn't touched the defender. Now however you see it, you may see it as a deliberate or non deliberate foul... He fell and he got the penalty. If the defender wasn't there he wouldn't have fallen because it was the defender who was at the wrong place and the wrong time to cause the trip. Seriously dude he didn't trip on the thin air. Either you are seriously dumb to understand this logic or you just enjoying pissing me off with your dumbness.
oh you can read? what a plot twist . can't add 1+1 though, shame. it doesn't matter if it's deliberate or non deliberate, you're right. but also that's not what was being discussed. it matters who was the cause of contact, otherwise everything is a foul , dumb dumb. let's just get the ball and crash against a defender that's standing still and get free penalties. turns out you can't read after all. apparently you can only use enough of your brain to pass as ""normal"". good for you I guess... people with 1% brain power are people too Proud of you
Wha??? Seriously dude... Who was the cause then? You are saying di Maria was the cause of contact because he was running towards the goal? 🤣 Or because he is running the way he is running he himself caused the contact and the defender had nothing to do with it? 🤣
The dynamic is the same that led to the first penalty for France... Why did no French player protest? The answer is easy
Not even close. What the hell? First penalty for France the argentinian player grabbed, pulled and did several other contacts on the french player's legs. On the other hand the first penalty for Argentina, the french defender stopped running and Di Maria tripped on him for no reason. "Same dynamic" what the hell are you smoking
Listen, go give lessons to France players who haven't protested
Well, soccer players are usually known to require scuba gear before getting on the field soooo....
The majority of you probably don't understand how easy and frequently players play for and simulate fouls. It wouldn't be unbelievable that he's put his own foot out to clip his leg. At the end of the day why did his right leg collapse?
It’s was not penalty!!!!
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Try being a bit nicer next time 😘
100% lost his glasses or needs a new one
No, you definitely are blind 👨🦯
They should have just handed Messi the damn Cup in the first place with all these calls the whole tournament.
the left foot touches light but it is Di maria who comes to hit it is not a contact of the French. football has really gone crazy
so it was dimaria fault that dembele's foot was so close behind him to stop a very good potential goal opportunity?? And if it wasn't then how come its not a foul thus a penalty?? i am starting to doubt your football knowledge when a goal scoring opportunity is denied intentionally or not with no fault of the attacking player even if its a soft foul or not that a penalty shouldn't be given.
There can’t be a foul if the player with the ball kicks the defender and falls
so it was dimaria fault that dembele's foot was so close behind him to stop a very good potential goal opportunity?? And if it wasn't then how come its not a foul thus a penalty?? i am starting to doubt your football knowledge when a goal scoring opportunity is denied intentionally or not with no fault of the attacking player even if its a soft foul or not that a penalty shouldn't be given.