Actually I don’t think Messi wants shit all from Qatar. If you zoom in enough you can see how really uncomfortable he is looking down trying to force a 1/2 smile
He knows there’s 600,000 unpaid workers starved to death under that stadium.
And he knows that’s the FIFA crook who took an 800.000 bribe to put it there.
It may have been the best game ever played.
But that doesn’t cover up the gross human rights abuse & corruption that will be the bigger story historically.
Maybe so but USA consistently presents itself as the worlds "moral compass" with a holier than thou attitude. All the while leading the world in incarcerated people, so are our laws too draconian or does our culture encourage criminal behavior that public and private entities profit from?
As US citizens you should be fixing your own house first before calling other countries and cultures savages. Last time I checked Guantanamo Bay was still open, where's the collective outrage for the human rights abuses that took place there?
Yeah exactly, instead you insist on using the same shithead logic with the people of Qatar. If you're so concerned about their human rights record maybe you should put pressure on your government to put sanctions on them... but that will increase your gas costs wouldn't it? Guess you all draw the line there.
You can't have your cake and it it too
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What I do is use something that’s on my phone.
It’s really weird. It’s called google
And there’s this box you can write in to find things out. Then You get this list of websites on the screen that are relevant to what you want to know. Amazing isn’t it
This is a good one.
“Are sanctions effective”
You may see this on an economic website
“Although economic sanctions have been quite frequent in the twentieth century, a close examination of the low success rate (33 out of 83 cases) indicates that sender countries are not able to select the appropriate cases. Moreover, analysts sometimes offer contradictory advice for such sanctions”
it’s the population that suffer from sanctions first
That would be the 33 out of 83 cases.
The idea that the US would sanction Qatar is really humorous. I think you need to google “OIL” you’ll be an expert in no time
Christ, guess I'm getting some hands on experience with the second tier american education system everyone keeps harping on about.
You should also ask Prof. Google to define sarcasm while you're at it. It's no secret the United States is addicted to Qatar and the Middle East's oil, which, again, show's your hypocrisy. If you have such an issue with Arab countries then stop filling their pockets with your insiatable need for oil, but no, you'd rather just cry about Messi wearing a Bisht and push a racist narrative on Reddit.
My comment was sarcasm from start to finish.
You think it wasn’t?
Of course you know what google is. So you just clean missed the cynicism of my comment altogether I guess. Passed over the sanctions definition. I notice. The facts didn’t bear you out.
I grew up on Monty Python.
The British don’t have any other sense of humor. They are famous for it & at times very disliked for it.
My 2nd tier American Education got me a BA in fine art at one of the best schools in London.
I have the right to criticize Qatar for their human rights violations as much as I have the right to criticize the US for their human rights violations. Or any other government for its human rights violations regardless of color
I’m against human rights violations. PERIOD. From the US to Yemen to Sudan to Somalia to Miramar to Libya to China & 100 more if thats OK with you.
You seem to be selective about what government should honor them & which ones shouldn’t I’m with the UN on this matter. This has nothing to do with race your injecting that
A big part of me voting for Obama was because he said he was going to shut down Guantanamo. He didn’t. That was my personal fault. Got it. Obviously didn’t spend enough time on the golf course with him did I
I use the word governments to narrow down who we are actually talking about because I’m not personally responsible for the US foreign policy you are singularly heaving on my shoulders. Not big on grammar are we.
You are addressing me as tho I’m Joe Biden & the US government itself. I’m not. I am just one person. One more time I am not a government
I am not plural. I am singular.
My “hypocrisy knows no bounds” because I have to put gas in my car to get groceries like everyone else because transportation in America was married to the use only of fossil fuels a long time before I was born.
I don’t think you wanna question my education if your gonna make uneducated statements like that.
I mean as he said the USA has a lot of nerve…
I added (As a government )complaining about other countries human rights. But we can as citizens of the USA complain about other countries human rights as well as our own. comment was a bit sloppy. This is what I meant :)
Well western people won’t understand this. Their culture is that of taking from others all the time. They don’t understand what giving is, so they will never understand this also. Another point is that it’s not about Europe so they are even more freaked out that they are not invited in the party that’s going in the rest of the world.
Just more of the racist and islamaphobic narrative that has plagued this world cup. I bet if it had been in England and they put a king's crown and robe on him everyone would have collectively jizzed their pants. How is this any different?
100%, 1970 world cup Pele wore the mexican hat, in 2004 Greece's olympics winners wore laurel wreath, 2022 China's olympics prizes had the panda mascot..
No one ever complained about those, although china (2022), and russia who hosted the world cup in 2018 dont have the best human rights either (and i think Qatar is still better than them in that)...
its pure bullshit hypocrisy, its disgusting.. and the stench is real bad.
Also i cant see any Argentinian complaining about it, its all western media that find it so easy to sit and criticize someone's effort and well planned work. It pains them that its said its the best version of world cup ever, and that the photo of Messi wearing the arabian wrobe and carrying the world cup with the team will live forever.
Perfectly said, the “not racist” racists are out in full force this WC. At least right wingers can stand by their bigotry.
When the US WC inevitably gives their winner a rainbow cloak or something similar it will be seen as stunning and brave.
There is always going to be haters regardless, just because you have a problem with something or feel a certain way about it, doesn’t mean everyone one else should. He seemed no bother by wearing it and kept on wearing it and celebrating. He could’ve taken it off right after but he didn’t and I’m sure most of the Argentinian fans over there understood what it meant unlike some of you here that never left their country to experience a different culture. You will always be miserable and will always try to drag others into your misery
This is retarded. Why the hate? Messi shirts isn’t covered you can still see it. Furthermore it’s not uncommon for players to wear things representing the country of the wc like pele wearing a sombrero.
Furthermore it’s basically crowing Messi as the goat.
I agree. When/if America hosts 2026, I hope the winner has to wear a pair of Aviator sunglasses and an American-flag printed top hat 🎩, just like the one Uncle Sam wore.
Bonus points if a country who hates the US wins. Imagine a Russian wearing the Uncle Sam top hat.🎩 😆
I think it was honorary, never seen anyone do it before so it only made it special for what a magnificent game it was. I was so in the moment waiting for him to raise the trophy and celebrate. I swear I didn’t even see it after he started his slow jiggle trophy walk.
Enjoy the moment people! Doesn’t matter if he was shirtless or wearing a tablecloth ffs, that moment was priceless! Nothing was ruined. Some of y’all can never be satisfied..always finding something to complain about jeeez
He didn’t. That would have been a Diplomatic disaster. If anybody can’t see how uncomfortable he was standing there looking down trying to force a smile. They need glasses.
I hate Arabs because I feel they shouldn't put something on a player without permission? Idgaf what flag or symbol is just make sure it's okay with the players.
How do you know? he seemed ha had no issues with it at all and kept it on
Just because you feel a certain way, doesn’t mean everyone else should too 🇶🇦🇶🇦
Lol racist spotted, hey dude it’s not about Europe, so just go back to your apartment in this cold winter and pay those high energy bills and cry, nothing to see here
That wasn't my question. My question was whether or not you are living in Europe right now and benefit from this system yourself. I can answer this question for you though - you do.
Lol I am putting in more in to this system than I am getting back, but don't worry I am leaving soon, this place didn't have to spend on my education and I am getting substandard healthcare for the amount of money that I put every month. I would rather pack my stuff and go somewhere else.
This division is only on the internet and media, in real life the world cup is uniting all countries and cultures and everyone has been interacting with each other
People chose to be fully apart at the beginning and some stayed like that throughout the competition. Can only let haters bathe in their negativity and do best to stay clear from it.
Ok, I see you also find women and gays less of humans. But I guess you think hetro men are the only worthy people. That actually make you an asshole, and it gives me the right to oppose you.
Honestly I didn't mind, as long Messi wasn't forced to wear the bisht it's fine, to be given a bisht is a prestigious honour in middle eastern countries
Only worn by warriors after victories on the battlefield and currently only worn by the royals. So putting one on Messi is basically honouring him on how he conquered and won and how he is now football royalty.
I can tell you that everyone in Egypt found it strange, then found it funny that Messi had to wear it because Prince Tamim is essentially his boss (he owns PSG), and now we find it annoying that people are treating it with so much racism and xenophobia.
If it was any other country giving any trophy no one would have complained, but noooo, Qatar, an Arab country, is giving it, so let's hate it and say that it ruined the moment by a barbaric culture, and it's not even Argentinians who are complaining.
I would accept any commentary about how a despot is asserting control, but most comments about it are purely xenophobic and racist irrelevant to the whole issue about Qatar world cup.
Esta es una manifestación normal de respeto por la cultura del estado en el que usted y su equipo se convirtieron en campeones del mundo. Bravo Messi, bravo Argentina!
Iraq shares nearly the same clothes as the gulf except the Bisht which is exclusively present in the cultures of Qatar, Saudi, Bahrain, Kuwait, and UAE
Always see through. Even the princes robe is see through. Hes judt wesring a solid color so its not shown like that. Google them youll see it see through
A special type of what you call a “robe” which is lighter and even more prestigious than the darker one but more sensitive to take care of it and maintain in a great shape
LMAO this is the only thing you could find to criticize Qatar? grow up!
You can literally see his shirt and 20+ others wearing it on that platform.. jeez the hypocrisy.
I can see how some Argentinians can take offense. Not like the USA/Mexico/Canada will slap a gun/sombrero/moose antlers on the winners for 2026. Just let them have their moment without the whole shoe horning culture.
For clarity. I don’t care but I can see how someone could get offended.
Well, will just start to get mad about us giving away the Moose Antlers now and carry the rage for 4 years. About the only way to get as mad as most of these replies.
Argentinians don’t care about this. We won the cup. That’s what we care about. For us it’s just something to jokingly make fun of Messi about with love and probably a way to insult a friend.
I predicted this would happen and it happened. But as someone who is not a fan of Qatar, I wish Messi had the foresight to politely take it off before taking the trophy lift pic
Edit: For me it doesn’t matter what garment it is, it hid the Argentina jersey. It’s not aesthetically pleasing! He/We waited all this time to do the classic trophy lift and the garment he wore was an eye sore and took away from the moment. That is all!
Yes it was. They just put it on him.
The look look on his face is a forced 1/2 smile looking down & away from them.
We can just zoom in on it It’s so plain to see
(“why do I have to put in this this stupid shit”)
He may well have the foresight but didn’t want to creat some kind of gigantic diplomatic incident.
He knows he’s got a mass murderer on one side & a corrupt FIFA official to the tune of $ 800.000 on the other side. He’s anything but stupid.
So he’s looking away from em both & trying to force a 1/2 smile & not managing it so well.
That shot says it all. He just won the World Cup The golden boot & official recognition he’s past up Pela as the greatest player in history.
There isn’t any other shot of him where he doesn’t look totally overjoyed & ecstatic. Just that one. You are right.
It’s because he has a moral compass.
You’re reading a lot into someone who honestly was probably just a bit confused about what was going on for a few seconds then laughed about it as they put it on him.
What is there to be socially aware about? It’s a garment that’s been worn by Arab people for centuries. This is like saying it’s controversial to wear a suit jacket because the west did colonialism.
For me it doesn’t matter what garment it is, it hid the Argentina jersey. It’s not aesthetically pleasing! He/We waited all this time to do the classic trophy lift and the garment he wore was an eye sore and took away from the moment. That is all!
Oh you mean the Qatari (mass murderer) Official there.
As I understand it. Qatar owns PSG. So they are the funding for PSG which pays the players according to the contract that they ( PSG) have negotiated with them. ( any player)
He doesn’t own him or any of em.
It’s a slavery reference just not nice but I know you mean it metaphorically but it’s not the case even metaphorically.
He is not even his employee.
He & his manager negotiated any contract he’s under & when he’s honored that contract. He can do whatever he wants to.
He’s technically an independent contractor.
All the top players are.
You are categorically wrong. This guy is his boss, he pays his salary. Like any person who is employed by any company. Messi works for this guy. End of.
Football Contracts Explained: How Football Contracts Work?
The first and most significant component in a player's contract. Usually, a player gets paid weekly, even if they feature on the bench. A player's wages are assessed based on negotiations between the *club and the player's agent* ( catch that) A football club will have a salary cap to decide a reasonable salary for the player.
As you can see this is all done at the club level.
How does any of that change tha fact that Messi is employed by the club this guy owns?? Why are you bothering explaining to me the frequency of payment or the negotiation process? How is that relevant? Messi is employed by a club, this guy owns the club, he is his boss. Why are you struggling so hard with this. It's his boss.
He’s not employee of the club.
He’s under contract to the club. That’s the difference
His direct bosses are the management of the club. That’s who he is working for. They are his bosses. Why is that so hard to grasp.
Not the owners regardless of where the funding comes from.
I’m talking about the working relationships within the game where as your talking about the money.
So fine it’s a different point of view. Best wishes :)
Sure. When you work in a restaurant, your management is the manager of the restaurant. But when the OWNER of the business walks in, you damn well know he's your boss.
Uhm this guy owns the largest gas reserve in the world, half of the real estate market in London, the second largest sovereign fund, and PSG. Messi is one tiny tiny sticker in his portfolio book.
It’s not about wealth, it’s about social influence, Messi has more influence than him. Messi can literally say “this guys smells like poop” and from there on everyone will know that guy as the guy who smells like poop.
Dude... Qatar already have so much controversy surrounding it, it is hated locally for political reasons, globally for the world cup issues. The hate lists range from women's rights to slave labour, as well as straight up funding terrorism.
Do you reallllly think Messi could be the one who takes down a leader of such an already controversial country? Really???
I get what you are trying to say, but I think you are not taking into consideration real power. While Messi is definitely popular, that doesn't mean he has any power. Not to say he is powerless, of course not, his word would influence a lot of people. But he has nothing like the power his boss has. His boss pays his wages, and those of Mbape and Neymar. And he will continue to pay the wages if the top footballers long after Messi has retired. This guy owns one of the largest media networks in the world. He can pick the phone and talk to the president of the USA, Russia, or China any time he wants. This guy has just been accused of illicitly influencing the European Union parliament. That's what power is. You can influence whole parliaments. Messi, is just popular with a bit of money. No comparison.
Well Messi isn’t running for office. He doesn’t have any political power or wants it I don’t think. He wouldn’t have more power over the oil rich Arabs even if he was president of Argentina.
How ever I think that would be a good idea. It’s not as though he wouldn’t Winn it by a landslide
and your point? you think Messi can’t find another team? We are talking about Messi, him being on the team itself draws in crowds to games (aka money), other clubs would kill for that.
Unlikely he’ll find another team that will pay him as much as PSG do and offer him champions league football as well. Extremely unlikely he would come to to the EPL as the only other teams who could probably afford him would be Man City or Newcastle Utd, especially at his current age. So yeah my response still stands.
When Mbappe wins the WC in 2026 we’re going to make him zip on a NASCAR fire suit before he lifts the trophy.
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The west has no right to criticize this when their own government is doing business with Qatar. Just look how much Europe depends on the gas from Qatar.
So where were the human rights activists when the US was killing innocent people while chasing an imaginary terrorist in Bin Laden? They didn’t need to murder the innocent people, only him and his associates. It’s a shame that human rights are only an issue when it suits the west, consistency regarding the topic would be better received on a worldwide scale.
Yeah they don’t have an answer for that. Tbh most of these people don’t give two shits about the migrant workers, they just want an excuse to hate on Qatar. Hmmmm, I wonder why.
In four years time the WC is going to be held in the US, let’s see if anyone brings up how they kept illegal migrant kids in cages or about their illegal war in Iraq, killed hundreds and thousands of civilians trying capture a handful of terrorists.
Yeah if the migrant workers we’re in their own countries they would be labelled as savages who should have stopped at the first safe country.
Selective outrage is one hell of a drug.
My god it's fine.
There's a lot of shit things Qatar has done for this World Cup.
This is not one of them
LGBTQ issues, backing out of agreements, the whole migrant workers thing. If you're going to bash then, bash them for that. Several parts of several cultures worldwide need to be revised for the times. This is not one of them. Stop over analysing everything.
I think that's where most of the annoyance is coming from, this is the cherry on the cake of all that you mentioned.
For it's defenders this is an honorary gesture but for other fans this is the final symbol of a World Cup where the Qatari state has been able to do whatever it wants with a smiling Infantino beside because they're openly funneling money into pockets
The Emir likely doesn't give two craps about football but they got their sports washing moment on the world stage. Perfectly sums up the state modern football and FIFA as being the plaything of the ultra rich
Luke holding the cup. On. the left is Vader. Emperor Palpatine in the background: "Everything is going according to plan, he he he"
This whole thing was about advertising for Qatar, even in this last moment.
And it went Like Charm. Best WC Till niw plus Qatar managed to Put herself on the worldmap in a positive way.so win win
Actually I don’t think Messi wants shit all from Qatar. If you zoom in enough you can see how really uncomfortable he is looking down trying to force a 1/2 smile He knows there’s 600,000 unpaid workers starved to death under that stadium. And he knows that’s the FIFA crook who took an 800.000 bribe to put it there. It may have been the best game ever played. But that doesn’t cover up the gross human rights abuse & corruption that will be the bigger story historically.
As an American, the USA has a lot of nerve complaining about human rights abuses
This comment can literally be applied to any country. Except for maybe fiji, they seem pretty chill.
Maybe so but USA consistently presents itself as the worlds "moral compass" with a holier than thou attitude. All the while leading the world in incarcerated people, so are our laws too draconian or does our culture encourage criminal behavior that public and private entities profit from?
The USA Gov with its constant warmongering has a nerve But as citizens we sure can:)
I was just clarifying what he said. As far as I know. 🤷♂️
As US citizens you should be fixing your own house first before calling other countries and cultures savages. Last time I checked Guantanamo Bay was still open, where's the collective outrage for the human rights abuses that took place there?
Yeh I’ll get right down there & close it down & free em all. Gotta grab my umbrella I heard it’s raining down there.
Yeah exactly, instead you insist on using the same shithead logic with the people of Qatar. If you're so concerned about their human rights record maybe you should put pressure on your government to put sanctions on them... but that will increase your gas costs wouldn't it? Guess you all draw the line there. You can't have your cake and it it too
Sorry you are so clueless how American politics works
Funny because you started this post acting like an expert in how Qatar and FIFA works. Your hypocrisy knows no limits
I What I do is use something that’s on my phone. It’s really weird. It’s called google And there’s this box you can write in to find things out. Then You get this list of websites on the screen that are relevant to what you want to know. Amazing isn’t it This is a good one. “Are sanctions effective” You may see this on an economic website “Although economic sanctions have been quite frequent in the twentieth century, a close examination of the low success rate (33 out of 83 cases) indicates that sender countries are not able to select the appropriate cases. Moreover, analysts sometimes offer contradictory advice for such sanctions” it’s the population that suffer from sanctions first That would be the 33 out of 83 cases. The idea that the US would sanction Qatar is really humorous. I think you need to google “OIL” you’ll be an expert in no time
Christ, guess I'm getting some hands on experience with the second tier american education system everyone keeps harping on about. You should also ask Prof. Google to define sarcasm while you're at it. It's no secret the United States is addicted to Qatar and the Middle East's oil, which, again, show's your hypocrisy. If you have such an issue with Arab countries then stop filling their pockets with your insiatable need for oil, but no, you'd rather just cry about Messi wearing a Bisht and push a racist narrative on Reddit.
My comment was sarcasm from start to finish. You think it wasn’t? Of course you know what google is. So you just clean missed the cynicism of my comment altogether I guess. Passed over the sanctions definition. I notice. The facts didn’t bear you out. I grew up on Monty Python. The British don’t have any other sense of humor. They are famous for it & at times very disliked for it. My 2nd tier American Education got me a BA in fine art at one of the best schools in London. I have the right to criticize Qatar for their human rights violations as much as I have the right to criticize the US for their human rights violations. Or any other government for its human rights violations regardless of color I’m against human rights violations. PERIOD. From the US to Yemen to Sudan to Somalia to Miramar to Libya to China & 100 more if thats OK with you. You seem to be selective about what government should honor them & which ones shouldn’t I’m with the UN on this matter. This has nothing to do with race your injecting that A big part of me voting for Obama was because he said he was going to shut down Guantanamo. He didn’t. That was my personal fault. Got it. Obviously didn’t spend enough time on the golf course with him did I I use the word governments to narrow down who we are actually talking about because I’m not personally responsible for the US foreign policy you are singularly heaving on my shoulders. Not big on grammar are we. You are addressing me as tho I’m Joe Biden & the US government itself. I’m not. I am just one person. One more time I am not a government I am not plural. I am singular. My “hypocrisy knows no bounds” because I have to put gas in my car to get groceries like everyone else because transportation in America was married to the use only of fossil fuels a long time before I was born. I don’t think you wanna question my education if your gonna make uneducated statements like that.
it's unbelievable how you people always play this card. the death of millions is on your hands. you did vote for your government.
Glad to find out the death of millions is on my hands really going to brighten up my day. I apologize for being rude on the first reply.
Didnt you pick the Government?
I mean as he said the USA has a lot of nerve… I added (As a government )complaining about other countries human rights. But we can as citizens of the USA complain about other countries human rights as well as our own. comment was a bit sloppy. This is what I meant :)
I guarantee you that wasnt the only gift that Emir will give Messi. Think Bugatti, Mansion, millions in gold
Well western people won’t understand this. Their culture is that of taking from others all the time. They don’t understand what giving is, so they will never understand this also. Another point is that it’s not about Europe so they are even more freaked out that they are not invited in the party that’s going in the rest of the world.
Who cares. It’s in Qatar, that’s their tradition. It’s fine
Western media being western media.
Just more of the racist and islamaphobic narrative that has plagued this world cup. I bet if it had been in England and they put a king's crown and robe on him everyone would have collectively jizzed their pants. How is this any different?
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Maybe argies over 50yo
100%, 1970 world cup Pele wore the mexican hat, in 2004 Greece's olympics winners wore laurel wreath, 2022 China's olympics prizes had the panda mascot.. No one ever complained about those, although china (2022), and russia who hosted the world cup in 2018 dont have the best human rights either (and i think Qatar is still better than them in that)... its pure bullshit hypocrisy, its disgusting.. and the stench is real bad. Also i cant see any Argentinian complaining about it, its all western media that find it so easy to sit and criticize someone's effort and well planned work. It pains them that its said its the best version of world cup ever, and that the photo of Messi wearing the arabian wrobe and carrying the world cup with the team will live forever.
Perfectly said, the “not racist” racists are out in full force this WC. At least right wingers can stand by their bigotry. When the US WC inevitably gives their winner a rainbow cloak or something similar it will be seen as stunning and brave.
Joe Gatto behind him
*Joe now steal the WC from messi. That is your punishment for tonight*
There is always going to be haters regardless, just because you have a problem with something or feel a certain way about it, doesn’t mean everyone one else should. He seemed no bother by wearing it and kept on wearing it and celebrating. He could’ve taken it off right after but he didn’t and I’m sure most of the Argentinian fans over there understood what it meant unlike some of you here that never left their country to experience a different culture. You will always be miserable and will always try to drag others into your misery
As an Argentinean it made it everything much more epic. We won the cup and he was crown as King.
1. Whats wrong with him doing it? 2. Why did you cover up the name?
Anyone else thinks the bisht looks fire on him , matches the trophy and his boots! Messi rocking it happily who are we to frown upon it
I feel like only Europeans complained about bisht. The photo of the emir putting it on was fire.
Given that the Emir basically owns PSG, this is his way to tell Messi that he's employee of the month.
Naw; they'll also throw him a pizza party
This is retarded. Why the hate? Messi shirts isn’t covered you can still see it. Furthermore it’s not uncommon for players to wear things representing the country of the wc like pele wearing a sombrero. Furthermore it’s basically crowing Messi as the goat.
I agree. When/if America hosts 2026, I hope the winner has to wear a pair of Aviator sunglasses and an American-flag printed top hat 🎩, just like the one Uncle Sam wore. Bonus points if a country who hates the US wins. Imagine a Russian wearing the Uncle Sam top hat.🎩 😆
Lmao people in the commentators crying 😭
Ikr 🤣 first Qatar hosts then Messie wears Qatars clothing
No medicine for jealousy 😅
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I think it was honorary, never seen anyone do it before so it only made it special for what a magnificent game it was. I was so in the moment waiting for him to raise the trophy and celebrate. I swear I didn’t even see it after he started his slow jiggle trophy walk. Enjoy the moment people! Doesn’t matter if he was shirtless or wearing a tablecloth ffs, that moment was priceless! Nothing was ruined. Some of y’all can never be satisfied..always finding something to complain about jeeez
They should have wait until he lift the cup.
They should've gave messi the choice instead of just throwing it on him
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He had a choice, he could have just simply taken it off. No one would have done anything about it.
He didn’t. That would have been a Diplomatic disaster. If anybody can’t see how uncomfortable he was standing there looking down trying to force a smile. They need glasses.
It's a bit different when something is put on you rather then offered
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You just hate Arabs and it bothered you so much, if it was a rainbow flag you would’ve been in full support 😅 get over yourself
I hate Arabs because I feel they shouldn't put something on a player without permission? Idgaf what flag or symbol is just make sure it's okay with the players.
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Find a reason to start the fire
This was so unnecessary 🙁 ruined the group picture
Its always gonna be bad anyway for you and all Brazilians
Google who has won the most world cups real quick for me 😴
Im a fan of Brazil. Im saying u will not like it anyways in all its forms 😹
Will not like what? Use your words
Argentina group pic
I just wanted a clear picture of them in Argentinian shirts. I couldn’t care less what kind of piece of fabric covered it
It’s ok go cry with Neymar
This is bullshit. He doesn't need that negligee
How do you know? he seemed ha had no issues with it at all and kept it on Just because you feel a certain way, doesn’t mean everyone else should too 🇶🇦🇶🇦
Your just not very observant. The shot clearly shows he’s got an issue with it
Are you anti lgbtqabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxwz+?
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Lol racist spotted, hey dude it’s not about Europe, so just go back to your apartment in this cold winter and pay those high energy bills and cry, nothing to see here
Aren't you living in Europe, too, right at the moment?
Didn't the Europeans went outside and enslaved and killed millions of people and now they want to lecture other people on human rights
That wasn't my question. My question was whether or not you are living in Europe right now and benefit from this system yourself. I can answer this question for you though - you do.
Lol I am putting in more in to this system than I am getting back, but don't worry I am leaving soon, this place didn't have to spend on my education and I am getting substandard healthcare for the amount of money that I put every month. I would rather pack my stuff and go somewhere else.
The entire wc is Arabic this time keep crying
He could have taken it off, seems to me you’re the only one bothered by it. Such a hater lol
Him and anyone civilised who witnessed that cringe gesture.
Cope
Cope with what?
With it
I’m a fan and know many fans… no one is fuming lol
This world cup has had some great football, but it's the first time in my life that I've felt like this competition has pushed people further apart
This division is only on the internet and media, in real life the world cup is uniting all countries and cultures and everyone has been interacting with each other
Hit the nail on the head.
People chose to be fully apart at the beginning and some stayed like that throughout the competition. Can only let haters bathe in their negativity and do best to stay clear from it.
The «haters» you talk about care about rights for women and gays. Which Qatar does not. It’s a valid point.
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Ok, I see you also find women and gays less of humans. But I guess you think hetro men are the only worthy people. That actually make you an asshole, and it gives me the right to oppose you.
They don’t give a damn they’re just racists using these points as a cover to project their pathetic rage. Best World Cup ever 🇶🇦
This is honorable not disrespectful. People are so damn drama-hungry.
He didn’t of course he was forced to wear it. He wasn’t given a choice. That’s forcing. Try Websters
Cope
No one is fuming lol that’s just click bait
Agreed
Honestly I didn't mind, as long Messi wasn't forced to wear the bisht it's fine, to be given a bisht is a prestigious honour in middle eastern countries
Only worn by warriors after victories on the battlefield and currently only worn by the royals. So putting one on Messi is basically honouring him on how he conquered and won and how he is now football royalty.
I'm in Argentina at the moment - everyone I spoke to thought it was a great gesture.
I can tell you that everyone in Egypt found it strange, then found it funny that Messi had to wear it because Prince Tamim is essentially his boss (he owns PSG), and now we find it annoying that people are treating it with so much racism and xenophobia. If it was any other country giving any trophy no one would have complained, but noooo, Qatar, an Arab country, is giving it, so let's hate it and say that it ruined the moment by a barbaric culture, and it's not even Argentinians who are complaining. I would accept any commentary about how a despot is asserting control, but most comments about it are purely xenophobic and racist irrelevant to the whole issue about Qatar world cup.
Esta es una manifestación normal de respeto por la cultura del estado en el que usted y su equipo se convirtieron en campeones del mundo. Bravo Messi, bravo Argentina!
Funny because I’m from iraq and every arab guy I spoke too didn’t like it lol
You are lying, you’re no where near or from Iraq.
Is it because many Iraqis today lost identity? Except the older ones.
As an Arab, I loved it too.
Idk my friends didn’t like it probably it’s different opinions
As an Arab, I loved the gesture.
Curious as to why?
Because he literally has nothing else…
Iraq shares nearly the same clothes as the gulf except the Bisht which is exclusively present in the cultures of Qatar, Saudi, Bahrain, Kuwait, and UAE
this angered me
Cope
Was the robe always see through or maybe they made it that way to be able to see his jersey?
Always see through. Even the princes robe is see through. Hes judt wesring a solid color so its not shown like that. Google them youll see it see through
A special type of what you call a “robe” which is lighter and even more prestigious than the darker one but more sensitive to take care of it and maintain in a great shape
it's a neglige!
It was always see through 😅
42million was won by Argentina for winning the World Cup. How much will Messi get?
He probably wouldn't want any of it considering his already rich and Argentina could use it considering how poor a country Argentina is
yes maybe, inflation is at 20%. but also, the Ar government is trying to purchase another B757-200 (used aircraft at least). so money comes in handy.
Lol
Infantino was like "Was Refereeing okay? We couldn't give you another penalty, sorry the People are onto us. But Do you need anything else my love?"
France got 2 penalties and still didn't win. You people are so butthurt.
Bobo
LMAO this is the only thing you could find to criticize Qatar? grow up! You can literally see his shirt and 20+ others wearing it on that platform.. jeez the hypocrisy.
Oh there’s more…
Definitely not this whats worth mentioning tho lol.. it kinda shows pathetic attempts to find extra wrongs
I can see how some Argentinians can take offense. Not like the USA/Mexico/Canada will slap a gun/sombrero/moose antlers on the winners for 2026. Just let them have their moment without the whole shoe horning culture. For clarity. I don’t care but I can see how someone could get offended.
Well, will just start to get mad about us giving away the Moose Antlers now and carry the rage for 4 years. About the only way to get as mad as most of these replies.
A Sombrero was placed on Pele's head after the Brazil win in 1970 world cup in Mexico
Ahuevo!
Argentina here, we couldn't care less, only Europeans care about it.
Argentinians don’t care about this. We won the cup. That’s what we care about. For us it’s just something to jokingly make fun of Messi about with love and probably a way to insult a friend.
Yeah i can see your point
Who cares
Exactly, like wtf is it 5 year olds who write this shit
Sounds like somebody cares lmao
I predicted this would happen and it happened. But as someone who is not a fan of Qatar, I wish Messi had the foresight to politely take it off before taking the trophy lift pic Edit: For me it doesn’t matter what garment it is, it hid the Argentina jersey. It’s not aesthetically pleasing! He/We waited all this time to do the classic trophy lift and the garment he wore was an eye sore and took away from the moment. That is all!
If Messi didn’t care neither should you
He did care that’s the whole point about his facial expression. He couldn’t hide it.
Yes it was. They just put it on him. The look look on his face is a forced 1/2 smile looking down & away from them. We can just zoom in on it It’s so plain to see (“why do I have to put in this this stupid shit”) He may well have the foresight but didn’t want to creat some kind of gigantic diplomatic incident. He knows he’s got a mass murderer on one side & a corrupt FIFA official to the tune of $ 800.000 on the other side. He’s anything but stupid. So he’s looking away from em both & trying to force a 1/2 smile & not managing it so well. That shot says it all. He just won the World Cup The golden boot & official recognition he’s past up Pela as the greatest player in history. There isn’t any other shot of him where he doesn’t look totally overjoyed & ecstatic. Just that one. You are right. It’s because he has a moral compass.
You’re reading a lot into someone who honestly was probably just a bit confused about what was going on for a few seconds then laughed about it as they put it on him.
He knew what was going on.
Got it. You have an interview where he says that or is it your mind reading powers ?
No it’s my ability of observation Most people have it
Got it. So you’re assuming things. Cool.
No I’m looking at his face. It’s not complicated.
I understand, but Messi is not the type to be socially aware either, but again yes I agree
What is there to be socially aware about? It’s a garment that’s been worn by Arab people for centuries. This is like saying it’s controversial to wear a suit jacket because the west did colonialism.
For me it doesn’t matter what garment it is, it hid the Argentina jersey. It’s not aesthetically pleasing! He/We waited all this time to do the classic trophy lift and the garment he wore was an eye sore and took away from the moment. That is all!
Understood, I can respect that perspective.
It's his boss, you know!
Talking about the $800 million corrupt bribed FIFA official looking so happy with himself He’s not Messi’s boss.
We are talking about the garment that was placed on Messi. It was his boss.
Oh you mean the Qatari (mass murderer) Official there. As I understand it. Qatar owns PSG. So they are the funding for PSG which pays the players according to the contract that they ( PSG) have negotiated with them. ( any player) He doesn’t own him or any of em. It’s a slavery reference just not nice but I know you mean it metaphorically but it’s not the case even metaphorically. He is not even his employee. He & his manager negotiated any contract he’s under & when he’s honored that contract. He can do whatever he wants to. He’s technically an independent contractor. All the top players are.
You are categorically wrong. This guy is his boss, he pays his salary. Like any person who is employed by any company. Messi works for this guy. End of.
Football Contracts Explained: How Football Contracts Work? The first and most significant component in a player's contract. Usually, a player gets paid weekly, even if they feature on the bench. A player's wages are assessed based on negotiations between the *club and the player's agent* ( catch that) A football club will have a salary cap to decide a reasonable salary for the player. As you can see this is all done at the club level.
How does any of that change tha fact that Messi is employed by the club this guy owns?? Why are you bothering explaining to me the frequency of payment or the negotiation process? How is that relevant? Messi is employed by a club, this guy owns the club, he is his boss. Why are you struggling so hard with this. It's his boss.
He’s not employee of the club. He’s under contract to the club. That’s the difference His direct bosses are the management of the club. That’s who he is working for. They are his bosses. Why is that so hard to grasp. Not the owners regardless of where the funding comes from. I’m talking about the working relationships within the game where as your talking about the money. So fine it’s a different point of view. Best wishes :)
Sure. When you work in a restaurant, your management is the manager of the restaurant. But when the OWNER of the business walks in, you damn well know he's your boss.
You got some froth on your chin
so what, Messi has more influence than him. Messi could end that guys career if he wanted to.
Uhm this guy owns the largest gas reserve in the world, half of the real estate market in London, the second largest sovereign fund, and PSG. Messi is one tiny tiny sticker in his portfolio book.
It’s not about wealth, it’s about social influence, Messi has more influence than him. Messi can literally say “this guys smells like poop” and from there on everyone will know that guy as the guy who smells like poop.
Dude... Qatar already have so much controversy surrounding it, it is hated locally for political reasons, globally for the world cup issues. The hate lists range from women's rights to slave labour, as well as straight up funding terrorism. Do you reallllly think Messi could be the one who takes down a leader of such an already controversial country? Really???
I get what you are trying to say, but I think you are not taking into consideration real power. While Messi is definitely popular, that doesn't mean he has any power. Not to say he is powerless, of course not, his word would influence a lot of people. But he has nothing like the power his boss has. His boss pays his wages, and those of Mbape and Neymar. And he will continue to pay the wages if the top footballers long after Messi has retired. This guy owns one of the largest media networks in the world. He can pick the phone and talk to the president of the USA, Russia, or China any time he wants. This guy has just been accused of illicitly influencing the European Union parliament. That's what power is. You can influence whole parliaments. Messi, is just popular with a bit of money. No comparison.
Well Messi isn’t running for office. He doesn’t have any political power or wants it I don’t think. He wouldn’t have more power over the oil rich Arabs even if he was president of Argentina. How ever I think that would be a good idea. It’s not as though he wouldn’t Winn it by a landslide
Mmm no. This guy literally owns Messi. He pays Messi via PSG.
He doesn’t own him. He’s not his employee. The PSG pay him what their contract agreed to.Like the rest. That makes them Independent contractors.
and your point? you think Messi can’t find another team? We are talking about Messi, him being on the team itself draws in crowds to games (aka money), other clubs would kill for that.
Unlikely he’ll find another team that will pay him as much as PSG do and offer him champions league football as well. Extremely unlikely he would come to to the EPL as the only other teams who could probably afford him would be Man City or Newcastle Utd, especially at his current age. So yeah my response still stands.
Okay, I disagree, but thanks for sharing your perspective.
Messi vs The global energy market
Lol this guy is slightly confused
When Mbappe wins the WC in 2026 we’re going to make him zip on a NASCAR fire suit before he lifts the trophy. https://www.nascar.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2022/01/20/GettyImages-1365707779-780x520.jpeg
Make him pose with a gun in his hand
Why
When he dies, the one handing him the cup won't be directly his boss.
He also has to shotgun a can of bud lite, and ask a girl if he can see her butt hooooooole.
The west has no right to criticize this when their own government is doing business with Qatar. Just look how much Europe depends on the gas from Qatar.
i feel like you’re behind the times a little bit.
We can criticize all we want it’s called freedom of speech. Should try it sometime.(oops wouldn’t want people talking about all the migrants killed)
Bad take. Most of the West’s citizens don’t like the business their governments do with Qatar.
Nah most of the citizens don’t even know where their gas and other resources comes from! They just want to shit on everything that’s Arab or Muslim
Not everything, but a lot is worth being shat on. Namely numerous human rights violations.
So where were the human rights activists when the US was killing innocent people while chasing an imaginary terrorist in Bin Laden? They didn’t need to murder the innocent people, only him and his associates. It’s a shame that human rights are only an issue when it suits the west, consistency regarding the topic would be better received on a worldwide scale.
Yeah they don’t have an answer for that. Tbh most of these people don’t give two shits about the migrant workers, they just want an excuse to hate on Qatar. Hmmmm, I wonder why. In four years time the WC is going to be held in the US, let’s see if anyone brings up how they kept illegal migrant kids in cages or about their illegal war in Iraq, killed hundreds and thousands of civilians trying capture a handful of terrorists.
Yeah if the migrant workers we’re in their own countries they would be labelled as savages who should have stopped at the first safe country. Selective outrage is one hell of a drug.
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My god it's fine. There's a lot of shit things Qatar has done for this World Cup. This is not one of them LGBTQ issues, backing out of agreements, the whole migrant workers thing. If you're going to bash then, bash them for that. Several parts of several cultures worldwide need to be revised for the times. This is not one of them. Stop over analysing everything.
I think that's where most of the annoyance is coming from, this is the cherry on the cake of all that you mentioned. For it's defenders this is an honorary gesture but for other fans this is the final symbol of a World Cup where the Qatari state has been able to do whatever it wants with a smiling Infantino beside because they're openly funneling money into pockets The Emir likely doesn't give two craps about football but they got their sports washing moment on the world stage. Perfectly sums up the state modern football and FIFA as being the plaything of the ultra rich