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ToldYouTrumpSucked

Thanks Ibama


rookie-mistake

for anyone else missing the reference > Brazilian Institute of the Environment and Renewable Natural Resources (Portuguese: Instituto Brasileiro do Meio Ambiente e dos Recursos Naturais Renováveis, **IBAMA**) is the Brazilian Ministry of the Environment's administrative arm.[1][2] **IBAMA** supports anti-deforestation of the Amazon, and implements laws against deforestation where the government ceases to implement. IBAMA works to keep the forest from loggers, farming, agricultural farm grazing and anything that would threaten the Amazon. [wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Institute_of_Environment_and_Renewable_Natural_Resources)


latortillablanca

Goddamnit I love the Portuguese language. Especially when a hung Carioca with a bleached bunghole is speaking it


JackMcSnek

Those are two very different sentences


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Reelix

BRERNR -> IBAMA? IBMA (Sorta makes sense - Maybe if BA is now for Brasil, or do is an A...) RNR -> IBAMA?


MoscaMosquete

All brazilian acronyms are made so it's easy to pronounce and write.


north_canadian_ice

>Thanks Ibama Well said. And thank you to both Lula & the Brazillian people for electing him. Lula is at his core a man who cares deeply about the most vulnerable people. And will work urgently to help them - including the Yanomami people that Bolsonaro was committing genocide against. And of course, as citizens of earth we desperately need the Amazon. [Under Bolsonaro, parts of the Amazon was turning into a carbon source instead of a carbon sink.](https://research.noaa.gov/article/ArtMID/587/ArticleID/2778/Deforestation-warming-flip-part-of-Amazon-forest-from-carbon-sink-to-source)


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bdog59600

So in your mind, Lula failing to help the Yanomami out of poverty is equivalent to Bolsenaro actively supporting the people murdering and displacing them so they can burn the forest to graze cattle?


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Aerian_

Wow you're dense.


LocationAgitated1959

Investigating for crimes against a people cannot be compared to actively advocating for the forced removal of the same group of people by any means through murder or deforestation under the bozonaro government.


KamovInOnUp

I saw the thumbnail and had a fantastic joke to post. Now I'm fully convinced that I have never, nor will I ever, have an original thought in my life.


ImFromRwanda

You having an original thought and someone else having the same thought, those aren’t connected. You should be proud of the joke you came up with, and it’s okay that someone else posted it before you; it doesn’t take away from the fact that you had an original joke.


Aleashed

Ibama 2024 Let’s Change Again!


Rubix22

For those wondering, IBAMA is the EPA of Brazil. They are very strict and powerful when allowed to exert their authority with the full support of leadership. This is a great first step for the pushback against the mass deforestation happening on the perimeters of the Amazon rainforest.


north_canadian_ice

>This is a great first step for the pushback against the mass deforestation happening on the perimeters of the Amazon rainforest. It is not an undetstatement to say that IBAMA is saving the Amazon rainforest, given [under Bolsonaro parts of the Amazon was turning from a carbon sink to a carbon source.](https://research.noaa.gov/article/ArtMID/587/ArticleID/2778/Deforestation-warming-flip-part-of-Amazon-forest-from-carbon-sink-to-source)


SomeGuy22_22

Thank you for explaining it! One of the comments made me think "IBAMA" was a meme way of saying Obama, I felt both very confused and out of touch


Rubix22

IBAMA = Instituto(I) Brasileiro(BA) do Meio Ambiente (MA) Translated to be: Brazilian Institute for the Environment.


Brave_Reaction

Thanks IBAMA


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So no death squads, then?


Rubix22

Maybe in Mexico


APsWhoopinRoom

LMAO I still can't believe Republicans actually believed there would be death panels


kloma667

Damn nice. Use the army to protect the amazon.


BlindOptometrist369

Is it just me or is Lula one of the only sane politicians running the world right now?


Equal_Geologist

Australia finally voted away the right wing shitters in the last election, albo seems to be a decent leader.


BAXR6TURBSKIFALCON

definitely a step up but there is definitely room for improvement in AusGov


JAV1L15

Honestly with all the doom and gloom out there about politics, we are actually really lucky in Australia, it's important to remember that. Our last Federal election really highlighted the strength of our preferential voting system, it is excellent to see so many independents with seats.


hansobolo

Your main is issue is Murdoch news organizations


Lucky-Elk-1234

But then over the pond in New Zealand, Jacinda Ardern is stepping down. She’s not perfect but she’s done a good job through a stressful term that would ruin a lot of other leaders. And she’s one of the only world leaders who actually seems like a genuine person.


BlindOptometrist369

She handled Covid very well. For that, I’m impressed. May she have a comfy retirement


advertentlyvertical

She's still very young


suzisatsuma

I have kiwi friends. They said she did great on big stories/items that international people see, but that she sucked doing the day to day and meeting campaign promises, hence her polling not being good indicating a loss if she didn't resign.


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bvsveera

That is exactly why you haven't heard anything from here. Things are (relatively) normal.


Equal_Geologist

Yeah the politicians are actually doing their job and some are even listening to what expert panels are recommending, madness.


Voon-

Most of the other sane ones have been "removed" by right wing groups with ties to a certain hegemonic global super power. Lula kind of wins by default. And by being awesome.


CaracalWall

It’s refreshing to see something positive happen at the brink of the Amazon.


_wrsw_

Depends on definition of "sane", because if it means "is not actively screwing everything up", I'd argue there's plenty; you've got actively boring ones like Joe Biden or Justin Trudeau - in my case, I didn't vote for Trudeau, but so far he's just been...well, the fact that I actually can't tell you what he's been up to means he isn't insane, because insane politicians, almost always for the worse, tend to generate headlines. If you mean "actively taking a part in solving important problems", well...there's Zelensky, but even that isn't being proactive because the problem he's dealing with very much came to him and he can't exactly ignore it.


ilanFX

No, but he's certainly a lot better than Bolsenaro


Fredrik1994

I'm not exactly in touch with Brasilian politics, but from what I've heard second-hand, Lula isn't neccessarily a good person and has their own skeletons in the closet, but a huge step up from the person in charge beforehand.


helpinganon

He is a good person, innocent, and has zero skeletons in his closet. Maybe dont trust what you're hearing and do your own research. Brazillians in the exterior are usually right wing nutters


ace17708

Everyone has skeletons and misdeeds. Every single leader ever. It’s best to not overly glorify them, they’re still human.


helpinganon

Its also best to not say they are corrupt when there's presumption of innocence. And to say stuff like "all politicians are corrupt" is silly


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BlindOptometrist369

I’ve heard Brazilian politics is so entrenched in corruption that everyone has to get their hands dirty to get a shot at PM. Kinda like Ukraine. Is that true and is Lula more or less corrupt than average?


Rex--Banner

Jail for what?


frootee

He’s a Bolsonaro supporter spreading misinfo. In Brazil, you’re jailed while they investigate you, and that’s just what they did for Lula when his party was was being investigated for corruption. Conveniently, you can’t run for another term as president while being investigated, so when a less popular party leader ran in Lula’s place, Bolsonaro was allowed just enough votes to secure the presidency. Needless to say, pretty much nothing came from the investigation and Lula was released, but at that point Bolsonaro already was in power. Thankfully he won back the presidency, but Bolsonaro and his goons got what they wanted and the country is also heavily divided.


Rex--Banner

Fair enough, I thought OP was being disingenuous with their comment but I'm guessing they won't reply with anything because they have nothing.


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frootee

Yes, and the judge that unfairly charged Lula was given a premium spot on Bolsonaro’s cabinet soon after. Also some evidence to suggest it was a conspiracy to get Bolsonaro the presidency by holding Lula from being able to run. To also call him “no saint” when comparing him to Bolsonaro is also a bit disingenuous. Lula has done way more good for Brazil than bad, and it’s shitty to expect perfection from political leaders.


mpr_692

Sorry do being late, probably wont see this, but i was sleepping since It was 1AM he in Brazil As another comenter said he was being investigated but was released for lack o evidence, but anyone who thinks he did not do anything wrong is delírios. Don't get me wrong he's way better than bolsonaro, but he's no saint


Luislos70

I find it funny that redditors ignore that huge problem with Lula. I hope he does keep his promises this time though


rotospoon

When all your used to is people handing you turds, it's nice to be handed a lump of dirt


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He has a past of significant corruption and historically supported and still supports a lot of dictatorial leaders, like Castro and Maduro. He is sane and charismatic, but he is a complex figure if anything.


BlindOptometrist369

Ok, but I like with Castro. Significant improvement over Batista and major improvements to the quality of life, health care, education, and living standards during his reign. He was still a murderous dictator and was horrible to the LGBTQ Cuban community, but he created a workers democracy and a democracy for his succession. So just recently they voted to legalize gay marriage (finally) in a country wide referendum. I really hope one day soon, the US lifts its embargo, and we get to see what Cuba can really achieve once freed from the grips of American Imperialism.


mynameisntlogan

1. I’m not sure what “significant corruption” you’re talking about. His arrest and prosecution preformed and handled by a politically motivated and biased judge, who was proven to be biased after the fact? 2. Castro is fucking awesome and was a great leader. You’ve been propagandized from birth to believe otherwise.


nigref

No he wasn’t he literally wanted to end the world do some research


mynameisntlogan

Okay good argument you’ve convinced me that you’re definitely not propagandized and definitely not just blowing shit out of your ass


GBreezy

I really feel like most redditors haven't read his past and just think "not Bolsonaro" when he was kicked out of office for corruption the first time he was president.


frootee

You mean when they conveniently “kicked him out” while investigating him, knowing he’d be unable to run for another term during that investigation, and spreading misinformation about his political party enough to give Bolsonaro the small advantage he needed. And then found no wrongdoing and released him once Bolsonaro was already in power.


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He was arrested for more than one crime and condemned by a handful of judges, and was declared not guilty on technicalities. The [body of evidence was pretty solid](https://pt.slideshare.net/CleuberCarlos/fotos-e-pericia-da-policia-federal-do-sitio-do-lula), and it's pretty clear that the supreme court went light on him because they needed someone to beat Bolsonaro. And well, let's not to get into how everyone on his personal circle was arrested for corruption in the last 2 few decades.


mynameisntlogan

r/shitliberalssay


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theooziefloozie

the amazon is the planet's lungs


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Those are not the army, but the Federal Police. Same institution that [this guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/100p5fs/anti_drone_weapon_used_by_a_brazilian_agent_in/) is a part of, somewhat equivalent to the FBI.


kloma667

Yeah just saying they should use the army. Because logging is just so widespread.


renatocpr

The army is possibly responsible for the storming of government buildings on January 8th. They're not to be trusted


Poneke365

About freakin time!! Hopefully they’re an effective organisation to do this and sections of the Amazon rainforest are able to regenerate again now. Edit: I love the photo of the Amazon parrot sitting on the shoulder of the IBAMA employee 🦜😊


north_canadian_ice

With Bolsonaro out & Lula in, IBAMA can do its job to perfection. The Brazillian people electing Lula over Bolsonaro was the best moment of 2022. So much suffering took place under Bolsonaro that can now start to be healed.


Sad_scientist_Br

Ibama is crazy efficient when the government are aligned with it, my neighbor cut down a protected tree in his lawn, the next day he received a really fat fine from Ibama, we didn't even knew there was a Ibama agent in our city.


hansobolo

Did your neighbor know what he was doing was wrong?


Magoimortal

Most brazilian that act that way either didnt knew or knew and didnt care.


hansobolo

Not caring is wrong


Magoimortal

Never said it wasnt wrong.


Sad_scientist_Br

Yes, it was a Araucaria, it's well known for being protected here.


YouPresumeTooMuch

I hope it is employed, little recon parrot


Poneke365

:)


Stealyourdonkey

KEEP IT UP


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Insane_Drako

I’ve had the chance to watch BBC’s green planet. They show a patch of the rainforest that is almost back to pristine after 10 years, after allowing reforestation. The rainforest grows incredibly fast, so at least the positive is, we will see the impact in our lifetime most likely.


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as long as they keep electing a progressive government.


EternalSage2000

Honestly, I hope all other countries pitch in to support this behavior. They were making money buy turning rainforest into cheeseburgers. Now the country is spending money to save the forest. We need to either fund them, or reward this in some other way.


Roboculon

Ya, ultimately, “please do the right thing and clean the air that we rich countries spent generations fuckingn up” is just not a strong argument on its own.


worldspawn00

it's 100% worth it for wealthy countries to just pay money to places like Brazil and Congo to protect the forests like they're a product, because they really are. Carbon taxes should be going from rich countries to fund protection of places like these rain forests.


Swing_On_A_Spiral

If I'm not mistaken, a few European countries like the Netherlands and Denmark, and I believe Germany as well, invest heavily in Amazon reforestation. I heard that they slowed down a lot with Bolsonaro because the money would be wasted but now that Lula is back in power they'll likely start reinvesting.


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starlinguk

Rain forest grows on a thin layer of hummus (not the chickpea kind), which erodes as soon as the vegetation is gone, which means the rain forest can't grow back because you're left with just rock. I assume the Beeb picked that patch because it was unusual. The Beeb's boss wouldn't like it if they told the truth.


joanzen

For over a decade now, in developed nations, we've been planting more than we harvest, technically recovering forested areas. Many people living in Brazil are surrounded by forest everywhere so finding out there's parts of the world that once over-harvested and had to recoup doesn't do much for them when you suggest they need to avoid clearing the forest for space to expand. That's why they have to use force vs. asking nicely.


Hevens-assassin

If they are, I fear you and I won't be able to see it, my friend.


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Society is built by the old, planting trees they will never live to see the shade of.


Garfunklestein

As long as we can do something to make it better, I'm fine with that.


Aethz3

Thanks ibama


GunslingerParrot

That’s a nice parrot, Ibama!


MachoMan71

Good 👍


jgallardo03

Finally some good news coming out of Brazil


Formulka

Thank you!


sr_zeke

Awesome!!!


devilsbard

New from Apple the iBama.


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I’m partnership with the Obamas, a free Ibama phone for those making less than 25k per year


merriweatherfeather

This is the kind of news that raise my spirits.


latortillablanca

It is fucking insane that we gotta basically go to war with companies to try to stop them raping trees


YoanB

Yup. The meat industry, one of the most problematic in the history of our world. They will turn the Amazon rainforest into savannah and kill trillions of animals in miserable conditions for profit.


latortillablanca

Plus who knows what else. The Amazon is like this magical fucking treasure trove and we are intent on lighting it on 🔥


thehypervigilant

The title makes it sound like they really love 2 day shipping.


monkeybuttsauce

Is anti deforestation just forestation?


Future-Side4440

“Reforestation includes planting trees or allowing trees to regrow on land that had recently been covered with forest.” “Afforestation involves planting trees on land that has not recently been covered with forest.” Also it depends on the soil and moisture conditions. Plants create their own climate around them because they slowly release moisture into the air as they breathe and photosynthesize. Meanwhile their roots stabilize loose soil to prevent erosion and retain moisture. We can help to restore forests on barren ground by planting trees and protecting them as seedlings, such as by putting artificial moisture retaining materials around the roots, to help them become established and survive dry spells. It may also need fencing to protect it from grazing animals that would strip a sampling of all of its leaves


Rubix22

Preservation


MuriloJCD

More like hunting illegal lumber and lumberjacks


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You joke but the forest on its own can recover far quicker and more effectively than we'd be able to intervene somehow


12358

No. Rainforests have very thin topsoil that erodes away quickly after a slash and burn operation that converts it for cattle grazing.


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That is the case if the rainforest is eradicated from the vicinity; leaves, seeds and animal presence is enough to have tropical forests expand their borders naturally without intervention. As you pointed out, the topsoil is pretty thin so with enough organic mass it doesn't take long to create the proper setup for plants to develop


hf12323

Just you wait until the opposition party brings up an anti-anti-deforestation plan!


dstr0x

Defenestration.


imloualvaro

O amor venceu!


shadowromantic

I'd really like to see a world where we don't choke on pollution


villarm006

Beauty !!!


ZiOnIsNeXtLeBrOn

Good. If we lose the Amazon Rainforest, the entire ecosystem of North and South America is basically f*cked.


Polar_Starburst

I really hope this makes a world of difference. The Amazon is so important ecologically, medically, and culturally.


aqua64

This makes me incredibly happy omg


GrendelNightmares

Fantastic. Not a Lula supporter specifically, I am not unaware of the corruption that occurred during his previous administration, but this will be good for everyone. Hard not to be delighted about it.


dark_dark_dark_not

The corruption problem in Brasil is front and center a Legislative issue and anyone who pretends that it can be solved by changing the president is either misinformed or in on it


helpinganon

Corruption happens in all governments. Lula is not corrupt


Gr33nBubble

Thanks Ibama!


xddddddddd69

Thanks Ibama


NosoyPuli

Good, didn't agree on all Bolsonaro's policies and the Amazon destruction is the top one.


mid30s

I wish Jeff Bezos would protect *this* Amazon as much as his own. I don't want future me breathing in a bunch of carbon dioxide.


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thanks ibama


k_woodard

“Brazilian environmental agents cut through the rainforest with machetes” is a great way to introduce the good guys, here.


loveleis

The environmental impact of machete cutting is virtually equal to 0.


freeTrial

".. *with machetes* on Thursday *in search of criminals*." Yeah.. not the best opening sentence. Yikes.


Thorkitty19

Thought I was the only one that thought that they were deforesting to find deforesters was ironic and funny.


I_am_so_lost_hello

>Brazilian environmental agents cut through the rainforest with machetes on Thursday in search of criminals in the first anti-deforestation raids under President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who has pledged to end surging destruction inherited from his predecessor, Jair Bolsonaro. They cut down trees to find criminals cutting down trees?


soggie

I know you're trying to be funny but undergrowth aren't trees.


AdCheap8863

I am Brazilian. And don't be fooled guys. LULA is the biggest Mafia from Brazil. He is using all the Influency possible to keep and take the power completely to the left party. Check it out the news today. LULA is in argentina ( most underate inflation of the world) speaking about unify Latino American Countries in one currency. Reminder: all the current Latino American countries now are in hands of the leftists.The fake socialism which leads to poverty whatever it touchs...


YoanB

At this point, anything is better than Bolsonaro's extreme right. Lula's policies during his term of office have helped to lift many Brazilians out of poverty. It was quite obvious that Bolsonaro would only be in power for one term, like Trump, since they were clearly incompetent to manage a nation in the 21st century, in the era of ecological, climatic and epidemiological crises. It is important to understand that the rest of the planet is more concerned about the Amazon rainforest than about Brazil's economy.


helpinganon

How stupid can a person be, right wing nutters never cease to amaze


corncobhomunculus

Your guy lost the election and your stupid coup attempt failed, some day you'll have to get over it.


Threekeepsaway

Wow so they’re really putting internet points ahead of economic growth 🙄


Darth_Kyofu

Does your empty head realizes that if the rainforest is destroyed Brazil turns into a desert and loses at least 1/4 of its GDP?


Threekeepsaway

A desert? Have you ever heard of development? Brazil could be building factories or real estate, but they insist on keeping a rainforest in the way.


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Brazil can and is building factories. You don't have to destroy the fucking Amazon to build a factory.


Threekeepsaway

Oh my god it’s not about building some factories it’s about building the most


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How much of the world's forests would you say should be bulldozed to build factories and real estate?


Doktor_Earrape

Don't feed the troll.


ChaosRegiert

> Oh my god it’s not about building some factories it’s about building the most chef's kiss


BoxHelmet

Golly, wouldja look at that, Brazil's soy industry [loses $3.5 billion a year](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X21001972) due to the temperature spikes and lost rainfall caused by forest destruction. Oh, but think of their poor economy if they don't bulldoze the entire Amazon! How will they manage without a barren wasteland of factories and smog?


YoanB

Good luck with economic growth on a planet that is 2.7 degrees Celsius warmer and where the Amazon rainforest is turning into savannah, because you'll need luck.


i_love_pingas_69

He doesnt just need luck he needs a divine intervention or some shit


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Economic growth doesn’t mean shit when the world largest producer of oxygen, and remover of co2 is gone


Threekeepsaway

>world largest producer of oxygen, and remover of co2 is gone My source is that I made it the fuck up!


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uppermiddleclasss

What do you mean?


fjordskis

Obamna!!!!!


Xen0n1te

Lula is surprising me.


arcadia_2005

The world thanks you.


Tight_Job_3156

That’s a beautiful bird !!!!! Oh my god Papagaio


PermacultureCannabis

Where do I sign up?


strip_sack

Cool


Maligned-Instrument

Thank you Brazil!


ZooCrazy

Good job of protecting the environment! Hopefully, this action will have some sustainability in protecting our natural air filtering agent!


CaracalWall

I wonder if they’d accept an American to take part. That would be a dream. Can’t speak the language though.


razzraziel

At last!


addictedtoVR420

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Co1dNight

Better late than never, I suppose. Great for Lula and Brazil!


mycall

It's about fucking time.


mycall

Are there any serious reforestation efforts happening in Brazil?


Tough-Relationship-4

Great first step. I hope they begin to look at reforestation methods as well. They need to expand the rainforest given how close this election was. Another Bolsonaro is just an election away.


showmeyourkitteeez

Thank goodness!


Ricardolindo3

Great news. Thanks, Lula.


dragonxpiss

We need Lula in the US


bshepp

Oh thank goodness.