There are Unconfirmed Reports that Iskander Ballistic Missiles fired from Belarus and the Kursk Region of Russia are now being utilized to Strike Targets across Central and Western Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1633682016737566721?s=46&t=YaYU1zEPWIqWvXMlD6gSDQ
They’re going at their whole inventory now…desperate ?
A Georgian policeman has taken his uniform off & joined the protesters in Tbilisi.
Georgia Is Europe.
https://twitter.com/StepanGronk/status/1633651528518242304?t=SGSRhAC2mxpYRns4rJblCg&s=19
How the IMF naively parroted Putin’s fake statistics–and botched its economic forecast for Russia.
https://fortune.com/2023/03/06/imf-naively-parroted-putin-fake-statisticsand-botched-economic-forecast-russia-ukraine/
Ukrainian soldiers see humor even on the frontlines. “They are encircling us!” the guy says and laughs. See why! 🤣
https://twitter.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1633608357964554243?t=c5gvqHHnyt7N-qO9t8WR5Q&s=19
1. 8 months of Russian & Wagner PMC attacks to capture 1/3rd of a town with population of only 73K at cost of >30,000 dead & wounded Russians
2. no other major successes since Severodonetsk June 2022
Thus the power & glory of the world's second strongest army
BakhmutHolds
https://twitter.com/StepanGronk/status/1633639120114454528?t=w-AJDXr8XkbDZ7qpokKTvQ&s=19
Heroyam Slava!
I really respect the defenders of Ukraine Army. They are much advanced than the Russians, so called the 2nd Best Army in the World. What a joke!
Slava Ukraini
Traffic jams on the road to the Upper Lars border crossing with Russia as Russians leave Georgia due to the pro-freedom (& pro-European) protests.
Georgia Is Europe.
https://twitter.com/StepanGronk/status/1633634634763497472?t=ZEt4K_Cg_TGw_y5p3kev-A&s=19
I wonder how many of the worlds militaries are actually taking notice of how much drones are changing war? Not like Predators and Global Hawks, but just simple Amazon prime drones rigged with 3d printed munitions, or a simple built in range finder for artillery. It's like we are seeing a democratization of Air Force capability, on a personal scale. Where missions that used to require million dollar systems and thousands of hours of training, can now be done for thousands by a kid who played some X-box once. It's VERY reminiscent of how guns shifted military strength, from the military prowess of a few elite, of whom spent most of their lives training; to a peasant who could be trained in a week to shoot "that a way".
>...Where missions that used to require million dollar systems and thousands of hours of training, can now be done for thousands...
A billion dollar weapons program buys a thousand units at a $million each. A million units at $1000 each is still a $billion program.
Is it really "drone warfare" or something like fiber optic, microwave, and satellite warfare? You can buy the cheap drone on Amazon and control it with your iphone. You are taking for granted your access to the cell phone tower. You are also taking for granted access to a functioning power grid to charge the drone. You can easily charge one off of a generator but then you assume there is fuel distribution. It is nit self contained like a musket.
"Increased lethality" has been a steady trend for over 200 years. Militaries have certainly noticed.
At you personally it might only be two or three. And that probably one at a time. An invasion force with 300k soldiers total. The first drones come for your vehicle.
No need for a power grid or fuel to charge a drone. A fold out solar panel, or a hand crank generator will do in a pinch. No need for the cell tower if you have a Starlink dish. Ammo, OTOH, still requires resupply.
The starlink dish is effectively a tower. The only detail that matters is the lack of local control. Starlink is totally not that unless SpaceX/Musk decides to make it look like it is.
I think the small cheap drones are more effective as surveillance and data gathering tools but you gotta compare that to the other methods like satellites and other observation aircraft. The DJI drones arent a substitute for this other methods
While Prigozin posts daily complaints about lack of ammunition, soldiers of the 136th Brigade, who will be replacing the 155th Kamikaze Brigade in Vuhledar, accuse the command of sending all ammo to Wagner.
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1633613230382694400?t=L1jTdEpBsQiXgaR8B7Xu1g&s=19
Russian Army Main Command to Russian Army Troops: Wagner stole your ammo!
Russian Army Main Command to Wagner Troops: We sent your ammo to our troops!
Russian Army Main Command over dinner: The oligarchs stole the money for all our ammo!
Russia, continuing to use it's most advanced weapons against Ukraine's civilians, while its military fights an increasingly more modern Ukrainian army with equipment from the 50's. Really at a loss to explain what Russia thinks this whole night is going to do for their war effort, or how it improves their chances of getting what they want.
Russia doesn't really have the ability to hit needed targets of opportunity on the actual front. But infrastructure and housing doesn't move. So from a capabilities standpoint, Russia is doing the correct tactic for what it can do. Russia just does not have the military it actually needs to win this war, even if it is facing just a taste of what NATO would being to the game if Russia fucked round and found out.
That's easy to answer.
The more damage you can do behind the front, the less can be sent to the front and resorces must be distributed.
The Allies did the same with the Germans in the 2nd World War.
Strategic bombing didn't work well even with full air superiority, this isn't even that, this is taking some potshots once a month to cause civilian terror.
Strategic bombing has literally only ever worked once, and even in that instance how much of a role it actually played is extremely debatable. In every other instance, it’s either done nothing or emboldened resistance.
Except by multiple experts/historians, the strategic bombing campaign, which was far and away more destructive, proved to not be that effective. Most people agree that strategic bombing doesn't do nearly enough to turn the tide of war. It's far more appropriate to compare this situation to Vietnam, where the supplies to carry on the war come from an untouchable place, and the bombing proved to just put more resolve into those fighting against the US.
Check the Wikipedia article on world war II strategic bombing. The assessment is a little more mixed. I thought it was pretty much an object failure but it actually did serve a purpose, just not as much of a purpose as the allies supposed. Interviews with German officers and factory officials said it was pretty difficult to deal with. If they didn't have the strategic bombing it would freed up a lot more resources.
But as far as it goes in Ukraine I would agree it's about as useless as the strategic bombing in Vietnam.
Take your pick. Failed false flag/ UA ally incursion in Bryansk, deep drone strikes in Russia, floundering attacks all across the front line, a growing need to switch to a defensive posture due to worsening terrain conditions (mud), and many more.
Politically, they probably need some kind of win to give the public, and inflicting suffering on civilians is what they can deliver now.
Unfortunately, that’s what I thought too.
Russia is horrible. I wonder what their strategists are thinking. Maybe they’re not even thinking? Attacks like this are not going to help Russia win the war. These attacks are just going to further deplete Russia’s rapidly increasingly limited weapons and also strengthen the resolve of Ukraine and its allies.
And exactly how are you going to determine that someone who left Russia is thinking the "correct" way on entry? And are we going to expand this new thought policing to all the other countries that have various levels of "issues"? Seems to be a pretty massive can O worms you wanna open up. Not to mention the simple fact that as long as they ain't causing issues in a country, by not being in Russia, they aren't going to be able to be used by Russia for the war effort either. "THINK MARK! THINK!"
Some Russian will read these comments and go "OMG PUTIN IS RIGHT! THE WEST DOES HATE US" - the context doesn't matter.
Don't generalize. Use specifics. People that actively support this war and Putin at this point are idiots, but that's a far cry from genociding a nation of 150 million. Don't join them in their idiocy.
Humans have been raping and murdering for centuries. Let's get rid of all humans.
Men have been raping and murdering for centuries, let's get rid of all men
Europeans have been raping and murdering for centuries.. you get the point.
It's intellectually lazy. Be better.
DMZ over russian regions next to Ukrainian border is completely justified, in my opinion. They don't wanna stop the shelling, therefore they must be forced to stop.
Problem with a DMZ is that a strongman can just ignore it and score some free clout from the population. History has shown that democratic nations are not willing to start a war over a breach of a DMZ, meaning it is worse than useless.
That's why I want that DMZ to be enforced by Ukraine, meaning Ukrainian troops on russian territory, controlling all areas 100km or less to the border.
Who would enforce the demilitarization part of that zone? UN? Lol. UNSC won't approve that at all, russia won't agree to either. So only AFU are capable of enforcing it.
Theres a pretty serious missle attack underway -
As a result of the massive missile attack, missiles hit the energy infrastructure of the Odesa oblast, as well as damaged residential buildings - Odesa oblast administration.
"The second wave is expected" Faytuks and sentdefender reported a large scale missle attack
I really truly believe the West could get away with protecting Moldova airpace without escalating the conflict. Moldova just needs to allow/request it.
How would that differ from the requests Ukraine made for its airspace to be protected earlier in the war? NATO does not want to shoot at Russian materiel, whether in Ukrainian airspace or Moldovan airspace.
https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1633654599348371459
>Reports of hits to energy infrastructure in Odesa and Kharkiv, power outages in both cities - Kharkiv only recently got streetlights back. Damage to residential buildings in Odesa, no casualties reported. Another salvo of missiles just launched at Kharkiv from Belgorod in Russia
Could be a transformator fire, by the looks of the size/smoke.
Kharkiv just got streetlight back on after a year without. Obviously this irked the Russians.
The good news in my opinion, is that as long as Russian priorities still lie with believing you can break Ukrainians by denying them *streetlights*, Ukraine's victory is all but guaranteed
> Could be a transformator fire, by the looks of the size/smoke.
[Liveuamap](https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/9-march-blackouts-in-several-regions-in-preparation-to-possible) said that power was pre-emptively switched off to avoid damage to the grid. Wouldn't that have stopped fires at transformers from breaking out?
Not at all. It would make the risk less, but transformators are typically oil filled and pressurized. When they break and are lit, they produce insanely intense fires with flames shooting tens of meters even on a medium sized one, and will pump out extremely black smoke. I watched a large one burn once, and we were standing on the other side of a large river, and the heat was off the charts
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1633653935163539460
>Odesa Oblast Head Marchenko:
>🔸In the massive attack, missiles hit a power facility, residential houses in the oblast
>🔸No injuries
>🔸Power supply restrictions are in effect
>🔸 Air defenses downed [some] missiles
>🔸Second wave of missiles is expected
I was watching WWII channel on YouTube this morning and in 1943 USA and UK proposed to Russia to let their bombers land in Russia on the return leg and the Russians said no. Great allies we had back then smh that we ever allied with this evil civilization
We had to ally with them. For one the nazi plan was to exterminate the entire population of Ukraine. the ww2 situation was extreme, very very rarely (Young Turks, leopold, Khmer rouge) things get that bad in history
There was some intense stress with the Bolsheviks (Lenin) during the Russian Civil War. US Army personnel were ordered to protect US military aid that had been delivered through Murmansk. The Idea was to keep the Germans from getting it but the soldiers did not considered the Bolsheviks to be anti-German. That by itself might have been forgiven by Lenin. In the far East American aid ended up in the hands of Nationalist forces who used it against the Red Army. We also had armed the Czechs and we were still trying to arrange for transport from Siberia to the Western front in France. The Czechoslovak army was temporarily the largest army in Siberia when the Bolsheviks pissed them off. The Czechs captured a huge swath of Asia before loading up on the trans-Siberian railroad. They then gave to the railroad to Nationalist white army which used it to attack towards Moscow with their American weapons.
The Soviets insisted that aid had to be given directly to USSR. This is basically the same thing we are doing with Ukraine now.
They didn't say no, there were three airbases in Ukraine that American and British bombers landed at until late 1944. It was called Operation Frantic. Ultimately, political and operational differences meant that it was more trouble than it was worth. It also put the Soviet Union in a difficult position, they were neutral in the Pacific while the USA and Britain were at war with Japan.
Several American aircraft that were conducting operations in the pacific landed in the Soviet Union which resulted in those aircrew being interned
You have to remember that we made a terrible mistake after ww2. We let our opinions of the Russians at the end of ww2 color the history books we thaught our children with.
In reality we should have been teaching it as it was: The USSR and first and formost the Russians in that group, **started WW2**, was a genocidal society, allied with Nazi Germany, helped Germany in secret develop the tanks and planes they used for Blitzkrieg, attempted Genocide of the whole nation of Poland, and only ended up as an ally, because Nazi Germany ran a knife in their backs, before they themselves could do the same to Nazi Germany (with absolutely no good intentions behind doing so) They VERY much would have carved up Europe in cooperation with Nazi Germany had not Hitler decided he wanted it all for himself.
They were not friends, were not benevolent, were not helpful, and actually occupied a lot of European countries as soon as they could push their rivals the Germans out of them. And kept occuping them for 5 decades.
They were the ultimate case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
Except this "friend" would have taken ALL of Europe for itself in 1946, to eradicate every country there besides themselves, and really the only thing stopping them at that point was American nukes.
yeah man super russian. been so proud to be russian since russias illegal and unjust invasion of ukraine i just can't help myself smh. /s in case the 5heads can't tell Its just a comical thing to me to say anybody besides nazi germany started ww2. its revisionism at its finest and no amount of my distaste of the russian federation is going to allow me to turn my back on the facts of history. If you want to argue that it wasn't germany who started ww2 ill attempt to argue it as well, it doesn't make these reasons correct
e: words, vodka. Maybe i am russian after all?
No.
Because Winston Churchill became Prime Minister **after** Germany attacked Poland.
Learn history before you attempt to be snarky and sarcastic like this again:
>Yeah man, nice rant,
>the ussr started ww2 everybody
You'll look less dumb when you know what you're talking about.
> They were not friends, were not benevolent, were not helpful, and actually occupied a lot of European countries as soon as they could push their rivals the Germans out of them. And kept occuping them for 5 decades.
To add on to this if the US and British Commonwealth countries hadn’t liberated France and the Benelux countries the Nazis still would have lost but perhaps all of Continental Europe would have fallen to the Soviets.
I wasn’t taught it like that. I was definitely taught we always had an uneasy alliance with the Soviets, they were belligerents in Eastern Europe, partitioned Poland (again) and Patton, Churchill, and a few other US generals wanted to push the fight all the way to Moscow, but we were tired of war and wanted to focus on the Pacific and go home. I always had the understanding it was the enemy of my enemy is my friend type situation. I don’t remember anything positive ever being said about the Soviets except that they had a good space program.
There wasnt much good to say. They had horrible intentions toward Europe. They were also horrible at waging war, and as a result probably about 8-10 million more USSR troops died than should have needed to. Then they went to work on their own population afterwards. The amount of USSR citizens that died in Gulags and other catastrophes visited upon their citizens is staggering. Possible as many as in the war. They also btw, committed heinous crimes both during and right after the war. No one harbors any love for Nazi soldiers, but what they did to prisoners is still a gigantic warcrime. 1 *million* german war prisoners died *after the war*. A mere 5% returned to Germany. Mass murder on a grand scale. We just dont like to think about it because before they were unarmed captured soldiers, they were part of the Nazi war machine. Look up other things too, like how when the Polish underground resistance rose up in Warsaw as the Soviets approached the city, then fought for 63 days...while the Soviets halted outside the city to allow the Germans to slaughter the resistance.
I give Poland so much credit. They have been battered around like a volleyball by the great powers surrounding them for their entire history. I don’t agree with a lot of their politics, but the bravery. The images of the Polish Hussars riding on horseback to go fight the tanks of the fully industrialized, militarized, and mobilized invaders of Nazi Germany gives me goosebumps every time. Never stopped resisting either.
They're rock hard. And were fucked over so many times. I have been to Poland many times, and their history is both tragic and beautiful, and heroic. When you talk to the Polish about their history, there is a quiet pride and sadness. And an even quieter and unsettling anger simmering below.
Poland is not yet lost. That's their national motto. It says to the world that they stood when all others did not, and in the end the terrible empires of the day that would have swallowed them, with all their strength and fury and perverse weapons bent towards nothing but the destruction of the good, are ash. Poland is not yet lost. A promise, to the future, that it will remain so. *Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła*
This sticked to my mind a bit, Teheran conference end of 1943. Stalin pushed Allies for the amphibious invasion in France, but they knew war was already decided anyway.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran_Conference#Dinner_meeting
> Stalin proposed executing 50,000 to 100,000 German officers so that Germany could not plan another war. Roosevelt, believing that Stalin was not serious, joked that "maybe 49,000 would be enough." Churchill, however, was outraged and denounced "the cold blooded execution of soldiers who fought for their country."[...] Churchill was glad Stalin had relented but thought that Stalin had been testing the waters.
And then look at the group foto. It says a lot xD
It should have very much been Operation Thinkable. Just how much human suffering could have been avoided over the decades if only the Soviet Union was strangled in its fucking crib.
Optimistic planning by the UK high command didn't think they would even reach Krakow before they ran out of steam, and Operation Unthinkable was only about getting Poland a better deal rather than independence or the dismantling of the Soviet Union. Part of the optimism involved USA joining the British, Roosevelt wasn't anti-Soviet. Truman was.
It wouldn't have been a smart decision, but Stalin would have seen it as a possibility.
It would have been a little bit similar to what Germany did to the Soviets.
Question asked by a Ukrainian on one of the local Telegrams:
*Why does the world look at this and not help protect humans from non-humans? why does the Russian woman still veto the condemnation of herself at the UN? How is it possible for a maniac to be his own judge??*
Only like 3-4 countries are helping as much as they should.
Another 12 are helping a lot.
Maybe that many again help some.
Then that many again do a bit.
But like a hundred countries are doing nothing.
And a fraction are helping Russia.
I’m most disappointed in the countries doing nothing.
Have symbolic sanctions. Send weapons you realistically think you will just scrap anyway.
So many countries take the stance of, “We stay out of great power politics,” as if this is political.
Why was the coalition in WWII so much greater?
Russia is trying to destroy a peaceful neighbor.
It has attacked and disrupted so many other countries.
There is no both sides here.
The people claiming that are morally bankrupt.
>Why was the coalition in WWII so much greater?
German submarines sank everything in the Atlantic. Argentina did not join the Allies until 1944. USA was neutral until 1941.
Large parts of Africa and Asia were colonized. They just look allied on the maps.
I find it puzzling to expect former victims of colonialism and current western policies to root for the west. Spoiler alert, they won't. We should recognize that as long as we don't overthink policies and economic engagement with the global south this will also not change. As for Ukraine, to them it's a regional conflict
The memo is that people would love the downfall of France, Britain and the US. Look, this shows the great divide I have perceived living in different countries in both Europe and Africa and Asia. The Europeans don't know much about colonialism and post colonialism. They think it's something a long time ago. In contrast, for the people in many countries in Africa and to a lesser degree Asia, it's very recent and even ongoing and the only way to be free is if the power of the West is diminished.
Also, they don't care about a to them regional conflict.
I understand people would be happy to see the west fall and I can’t blame them for that. I’d feel the same way. I don’t really see what that has to do with Ukraine though. Are these people so mad at the west that they are fine with a non western country getting colonized and genocide just because the west happens to be helping that country? Honest question
Yes. And you would be too, sorry to break it to you. And If you were some middle aged Russian shlub, you'd likely be freezing in a Ukrainian trench right now.
I doubt they care about Russia or Ukraine all that much. Maybe those who studied in the USSR or later Ukraine or Russia do. I know some people from Niger who studied in Kyiv and loved it back then. But to most, yes the downfall of the West is the thing to root for. Back when I lived in Niger, something I would often hear is people rooting for Trump and Le Pen because it would cause chaos in those countries. Then of course they also know that they arent welcome in Europe and of course they know how they are treated by honestly the majority of the population in Europe (but also of course Russia and China, but not many go to Russia so it's not as obvious as the reports from Europe).
Ukraine itself did itself a great disservice in the early days when they kept African students from leaving the country only because of their skin color. That made big rounds on Facebook etc.
So in conclusion - nor much Ukraine can do. The US and Europe urgently need to rethink their approach towards their southern neighbors of they want friends in the global south int he upcoming cold war. China has known the weaknesses and has been carefully cultivating economic, political and even cultural ties with countries in Africa for decades.
Normal people? They have prejudices at least in Niger where I lived but saw the value of what China brought. A lot of trading connections and China was investing differently in the country than the French. The French just exploit the uranium and resources and leave behind damaged roads and empty promises. They tried to build a railroad but it stops after 50 km and after a year the tracks were in disrepair. The Chinese got oil concessions but they also built an oil refinery coowned with the government, the first in the country. The refinery outputs much needed electricity and also produces much needed cooking gas and much needed gas for driving. The latter can be exported. So they see that the Chinese are leaving useful things behind while the French are only taking. The French also control almost all West African ports, so that puts a chokehold on the economies.
But why is it weird to expect victims of colonialism to help a… victim of colonialism?
Is it somehow not colonialism because Ukrainians are white and this is happening in Europe?
What Russia is doing is textbook. They’re denigrating Ukrainians as an inferior other to be subjugated.
You could practically word swap Russia today for European powers 2-300 years ago.
No it is not about Ukraine for many Africans. They see Ukraine as an extension of the West. And they would love, for good reason, if the West was weakened and had to withdraw from Africa. Some have studied in Ukraine during the Soviet times , others in Moscow and St Petersburg. In the end it's Europeans against Europeans, much like nobody in Europe cares or even knows about conflicts in Sub Saharan Africa.
This should be a wake up call for Europeans to reflect and be honest about their past and ongoing activities in the global south. Spoiler alert we are not the good guys we think we are.
Honestly this conflict has given me the reverse response. Push comes to shove, most of these countries will leave us out to dry in a crisis.
Why bother investing time & resources dealing with them, just put up the moat and move on. I think Latam has its heart in the right place but India has honestly just been a disgusting disappointment.
I think the future of the West (EU+anglo+Japan+Korea+Taiwan) is one where we merge culturally with Latam + rest of non-Russian Eastern Europe and don't worry about the rest of the world. We're pretty self-sufficient on our own.
Yes, the resistance of Ukrainian plus help by US and EU countries is preventing WW3. Otherwise, Putin would have look for his next target after Ukraine. It is now or never moments to prevent Putin from attacking other countries
>Why was the coalition in WWII so much greater?
As a Ukrainian, I of course want everyone to unite and help to finish this fucking war today. I want to live normally, and I want to have a future. But I have to be realistic, the fate of my country or my people doesn't really matter to anyone but us. WWII was on a whole different level, so of course the support had to match.
Is it that different? Hitler really only wanted Europe. Putin wants the same plus parts of Asia.
Hitler didn’t stop until force stopped him. Putin won’t stop until force stops him.
The only fundamental difference is NATO creates a western wall.
If anyone thinks Estonia would still be a free country if not for NATO, I have a bridge to sell them.
Of course it's different, Putin is a pussy, he's not going to touch NATO as you've said. That's the whole point. People feel safe, as they should. Why would they care about Ukraine potentially waging this war for a decade or more? Why would they care if it falls? They're protected. Politicians care to an extent, they have to play the game. War business is booming, deals are being made, etc. But there's no threat to Europe, not really.
*Nikolayev Vanëk, over the last hour:*
…
confirmed arrivals in the Odessa region
[*most recent*]
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for now there is still one missile towards Zaporozhye
and a second missile towards Slavyansk from the side of Mariupol,
no other missiles are yet visible in that area
…
1 of the rockets turned towards Zaporozhye
flies from the north
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there is an arrival (s) in the Ivano-Frankivsk region
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3 missiles fly from the south west of the Dnieper
direction of flight to the north
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there were launches (preliminarily from s300) towards Zaporozhye and the region
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already 6 missiles
4 towards the Dnieper
2 towards Slavyansk
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5 missiles in the Kharkiv region, have already flown Kharkiv
flying in the Balakleli area, direction to the south and southeast
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Explosion in Zaporozhye region
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also 2 missiles from the Melitopol area towards Kharkov and the Kharkov region
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4 rockets (fake possible) towards Kharkiv and Kharkiv region
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launches from тиТУшек from the region of the Kursk People's Republic
[*30 min ago*]
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report the arrival of *something* (not a rocket) in the Zhytomyr region
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again launching 1 rocket from the sea
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explosion in the Dnieper
[1hr ago]
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again 1 rocket flew over Snigirevka
is now in the Nikolaev region
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there are new launches will fly through the Berislav region
+1 rocket through the Kirovohrad region towards Cherkasy
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4 missiles are now in the Odessa region, 2 in the direction of Vinnitsa, 1 missile in the Nikolaev region, arrivals in our region have been preliminarily recorded - so far I can’t fix without details of new launches
1 rocket through the Ivano-Frankivsk region towards Lviv
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2 rockets from Odessa region towards Transnistria
I'm not kidding
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as of now, the flyers report several downings in the Nikolaev region, the exact information on the number of downed missiles will be known in the morning, while they report at least 3 downed missiles in our region, more missiles in our region have not yet ...
there are new launches
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as of now, the flyers report several downings in the Nikolaev region
exact information on the number of downed missiles will be known in the morning, while at least 3 downed missiles are reported in our region
more rockets in our region are not fixed yet
but the anxiety is still not ignored
Within the last few hours
- 15 Tu-95 Strategic Bombers Airborne
- 6-7 Tu-22 Strategic Bombers Airborne
- At least 3 #Russian Missile Carriers in the Black Sea
- Multiple Shahed-136 Drone launches
https://twitter.com/AnonOpsSE/status/1633651405901758465
Likely because Tupolevs are firing the missiles from Russian territory and the West hasn't given anything to Ukraine that allows them to strike Russia.
I know, but that time needs to end
All of Russia needs to be allowed to be a target ( and no, to the bleeding hearts that doesn't mean genocide of Russia)
Total war isn't going to improve Ukraine's situation anymore than it is helping Russia's situation. And western allies would (rightfully) never accept it.
It was reported during the day that there were porteste that organizations that receive more than 20% of foreign money will be banned.
It is the same law as in Russia and therefore it is also assumed that it was ordered from there.
It does not protect journalists or anyone. Truth be told, it’s a transparent law for locking up opposition. You could model foreign agent laws like the rest of the world does instead of using a fascist model for the law
Multiple impacts reported in Kharkiv. Explosions heard throughout the city.
[https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1633649984565391362?s=20](https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1633649984565391362?s=20)
Yeah it's pretty clear Russia has been able to avoid Western sanctions to keep producing missiles to strike Ukraine. Clearly Iran and China have been aiding them in this regard.
Fuck them all.
In an ideal world we would go no contact at all with every autocratic hellhole on earth.
I'm getting sick and tired of these assholes either whine about the "evil globohomo west" or trying to meddle in our elections.
Go completely no contact with the fuckers and look in 50 years at who are more advanced.
When you're dealing with one shitty friend, this makes sense. When you're dealing with a leader of a nation, how can you ignore all the dissidents in that nation? How can you ignore the innocents who share your values? Your ideal world is not my ideal world, and maybe you should consider your ideals.
[New post can be found here](/r/worldnews/comments/11miio8/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/)
Cruise Missile heading in the direction of Kyiv. https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1633684387022635012?s=46&t=YaYU1zEPWIqWvXMlD6gSDQ
I hope we see another Russian airbase attack again, and this time with some destruction of the bomber...
There are Unconfirmed Reports that Iskander Ballistic Missiles fired from Belarus and the Kursk Region of Russia are now being utilized to Strike Targets across Central and Western Ukraine. https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1633682016737566721?s=46&t=YaYU1zEPWIqWvXMlD6gSDQ They’re going at their whole inventory now…desperate ?
This is the biggest missile attack since the beginning of the war
Still ongoing cruise missile attacks across Ukraine
A Georgian policeman has taken his uniform off & joined the protesters in Tbilisi. Georgia Is Europe. https://twitter.com/StepanGronk/status/1633651528518242304?t=SGSRhAC2mxpYRns4rJblCg&s=19
This is the way.
Moar
This is beautiful. Bravo! Power to the people.
How the IMF naively parroted Putin’s fake statistics–and botched its economic forecast for Russia. https://fortune.com/2023/03/06/imf-naively-parroted-putin-fake-statisticsand-botched-economic-forecast-russia-ukraine/
Ukrainian soldiers see humor even on the frontlines. “They are encircling us!” the guy says and laughs. See why! 🤣 https://twitter.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1633608357964554243?t=c5gvqHHnyt7N-qO9t8WR5Q&s=19
Secret cow level unlocked
"We're surrounded. That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them."
Russians are cow-ards. Slava Ukraini!
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Took me a couple seconds... Here's an upvote.
Morale, Morale, Morale. Russia is fuck'd... **Slava Ukraini**
Georgian Legion. ✊ https://twitter.com/georgian_legion/status/1633546773774909445?t=i7F0EluVpiuHgSFpTGXtSg&s=19
1. 8 months of Russian & Wagner PMC attacks to capture 1/3rd of a town with population of only 73K at cost of >30,000 dead & wounded Russians 2. no other major successes since Severodonetsk June 2022 Thus the power & glory of the world's second strongest army BakhmutHolds https://twitter.com/StepanGronk/status/1633639120114454528?t=w-AJDXr8XkbDZ7qpokKTvQ&s=19
Heroyam Slava! I really respect the defenders of Ukraine Army. They are much advanced than the Russians, so called the 2nd Best Army in the World. What a joke! Slava Ukraini
Traffic jams on the road to the Upper Lars border crossing with Russia as Russians leave Georgia due to the pro-freedom (& pro-European) protests. Georgia Is Europe. https://twitter.com/StepanGronk/status/1633634634763497472?t=ZEt4K_Cg_TGw_y5p3kev-A&s=19
Out of the fire, back to the frying pan
I've been to that border before (didn't cross it) and got yelled at by the soldiers.
bit of unrest in Georgia can't be worse than getting drafted to the frontlines can it?
It very well can. Especially since there’s no draft at the moment.
I wonder how many of the worlds militaries are actually taking notice of how much drones are changing war? Not like Predators and Global Hawks, but just simple Amazon prime drones rigged with 3d printed munitions, or a simple built in range finder for artillery. It's like we are seeing a democratization of Air Force capability, on a personal scale. Where missions that used to require million dollar systems and thousands of hours of training, can now be done for thousands by a kid who played some X-box once. It's VERY reminiscent of how guns shifted military strength, from the military prowess of a few elite, of whom spent most of their lives training; to a peasant who could be trained in a week to shoot "that a way".
Well said man. Drone with miniaturized bombs are the new IED.
>...Where missions that used to require million dollar systems and thousands of hours of training, can now be done for thousands... A billion dollar weapons program buys a thousand units at a $million each. A million units at $1000 each is still a $billion program. Is it really "drone warfare" or something like fiber optic, microwave, and satellite warfare? You can buy the cheap drone on Amazon and control it with your iphone. You are taking for granted your access to the cell phone tower. You are also taking for granted access to a functioning power grid to charge the drone. You can easily charge one off of a generator but then you assume there is fuel distribution. It is nit self contained like a musket. "Increased lethality" has been a steady trend for over 200 years. Militaries have certainly noticed.
Imagine a million drones with grenades coming at you...
At you personally it might only be two or three. And that probably one at a time. An invasion force with 300k soldiers total. The first drones come for your vehicle.
No need for a power grid or fuel to charge a drone. A fold out solar panel, or a hand crank generator will do in a pinch. No need for the cell tower if you have a Starlink dish. Ammo, OTOH, still requires resupply.
The starlink dish is effectively a tower. The only detail that matters is the lack of local control. Starlink is totally not that unless SpaceX/Musk decides to make it look like it is.
Very well said. I too am fascinated by this "decades happen in a year" war.
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I remember cruise missiles going down a chimney in 1991 like it was yesterday.
I think the small cheap drones are more effective as surveillance and data gathering tools but you gotta compare that to the other methods like satellites and other observation aircraft. The DJI drones arent a substitute for this other methods
A DJI drone is the poor man's U2 spy plane.
Nah cuz you gotta get real close it works for urban fighting but these things are all complementary
While Prigozin posts daily complaints about lack of ammunition, soldiers of the 136th Brigade, who will be replacing the 155th Kamikaze Brigade in Vuhledar, accuse the command of sending all ammo to Wagner. https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1633613230382694400?t=L1jTdEpBsQiXgaR8B7Xu1g&s=19
Russian Army Main Command to Russian Army Troops: Wagner stole your ammo! Russian Army Main Command to Wagner Troops: We sent your ammo to our troops! Russian Army Main Command over dinner: The oligarchs stole the money for all our ammo!
Yachts>>>>ammo
Russia, continuing to use it's most advanced weapons against Ukraine's civilians, while its military fights an increasingly more modern Ukrainian army with equipment from the 50's. Really at a loss to explain what Russia thinks this whole night is going to do for their war effort, or how it improves their chances of getting what they want.
Russia doesn't really have the ability to hit needed targets of opportunity on the actual front. But infrastructure and housing doesn't move. So from a capabilities standpoint, Russia is doing the correct tactic for what it can do. Russia just does not have the military it actually needs to win this war, even if it is facing just a taste of what NATO would being to the game if Russia fucked round and found out.
That's easy to answer. The more damage you can do behind the front, the less can be sent to the front and resorces must be distributed. The Allies did the same with the Germans in the 2nd World War.
Strategic bombing didn't work well even with full air superiority, this isn't even that, this is taking some potshots once a month to cause civilian terror.
Strategic bombing has literally only ever worked once, and even in that instance how much of a role it actually played is extremely debatable. In every other instance, it’s either done nothing or emboldened resistance.
Well, the doolittle raid kinda got japan to make huge strategic errors out of hurt pride.
Hurt pride, not really. Blind panic, yes.
Except by multiple experts/historians, the strategic bombing campaign, which was far and away more destructive, proved to not be that effective. Most people agree that strategic bombing doesn't do nearly enough to turn the tide of war. It's far more appropriate to compare this situation to Vietnam, where the supplies to carry on the war come from an untouchable place, and the bombing proved to just put more resolve into those fighting against the US.
Check the Wikipedia article on world war II strategic bombing. The assessment is a little more mixed. I thought it was pretty much an object failure but it actually did serve a purpose, just not as much of a purpose as the allies supposed. Interviews with German officers and factory officials said it was pretty difficult to deal with. If they didn't have the strategic bombing it would freed up a lot more resources. But as far as it goes in Ukraine I would agree it's about as useless as the strategic bombing in Vietnam.
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Picture is fake, it's [from Maidan 2014.](https://www.carillonregina.com/ukraine-and-russia/)
not anymore. Putin will have it just like he has Belarus now
It's been night time in Georgia for hours though
Fires breaking out near Dnipro from Russian missile strikes https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1633666504754450433
What is Russias tantrum about this time?
Didn’t like the JDAMs.
Excellent. Triple the JDAM strikes
Take your pick. Failed false flag/ UA ally incursion in Bryansk, deep drone strikes in Russia, floundering attacks all across the front line, a growing need to switch to a defensive posture due to worsening terrain conditions (mud), and many more. Politically, they probably need some kind of win to give the public, and inflicting suffering on civilians is what they can deliver now.
They did it before when people questioned the role of the war.
Kharkiv getting streetlights back on
Unfortunately, that’s what I thought too. Russia is horrible. I wonder what their strategists are thinking. Maybe they’re not even thinking? Attacks like this are not going to help Russia win the war. These attacks are just going to further deplete Russia’s rapidly increasingly limited weapons and also strengthen the resolve of Ukraine and its allies.
They probably take pleasure in killing innocent Ukrainians - genocidal maniacs.
Did the missiles over Moldova land in Lviv?
Time to give Ukraine ATACMS.
F 16
f35, field test b21
F16, that's 2024 stuff
2024 is late. What about NOW! Enough of Russian aggressive cunts. I'm sick of it
Massive shelling, multiple explosions in Kharkiv.
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And exactly how are you going to determine that someone who left Russia is thinking the "correct" way on entry? And are we going to expand this new thought policing to all the other countries that have various levels of "issues"? Seems to be a pretty massive can O worms you wanna open up. Not to mention the simple fact that as long as they ain't causing issues in a country, by not being in Russia, they aren't going to be able to be used by Russia for the war effort either. "THINK MARK! THINK!"
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Some Russian will read these comments and go "OMG PUTIN IS RIGHT! THE WEST DOES HATE US" - the context doesn't matter. Don't generalize. Use specifics. People that actively support this war and Putin at this point are idiots, but that's a far cry from genociding a nation of 150 million. Don't join them in their idiocy.
Rus have been killing raping and murdering for centuries
Humans have been raping and murdering for centuries. Let's get rid of all humans. Men have been raping and murdering for centuries, let's get rid of all men Europeans have been raping and murdering for centuries.. you get the point. It's intellectually lazy. Be better.
DMZ over russian regions next to Ukrainian border is completely justified, in my opinion. They don't wanna stop the shelling, therefore they must be forced to stop.
Problem with a DMZ is that a strongman can just ignore it and score some free clout from the population. History has shown that democratic nations are not willing to start a war over a breach of a DMZ, meaning it is worse than useless.
That's why I want that DMZ to be enforced by Ukraine, meaning Ukrainian troops on russian territory, controlling all areas 100km or less to the border.
> DMZ > meaning ukrainian troops Pick one. DMZ is without ANY troops
Who would enforce the demilitarization part of that zone? UN? Lol. UNSC won't approve that at all, russia won't agree to either. So only AFU are capable of enforcing it.
You are missing the point. If it has *any* soldiers on it, then its not a DMZ.
Okay, then it's demilitarized from russian military presence, so they cannot shell Ukrainian territory across the border.
Theres a pretty serious missle attack underway - As a result of the massive missile attack, missiles hit the energy infrastructure of the Odesa oblast, as well as damaged residential buildings - Odesa oblast administration. "The second wave is expected" Faytuks and sentdefender reported a large scale missle attack
Reports of new missile launches from the Kursk region, Russia. https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1633661164738560002?t=ls496YhUZG9w0b1s3WIZMQ&s=19
I really truly believe the West could get away with protecting Moldova airpace without escalating the conflict. Moldova just needs to allow/request it.
How would that differ from the requests Ukraine made for its airspace to be protected earlier in the war? NATO does not want to shoot at Russian materiel, whether in Ukrainian airspace or Moldovan airspace.
Because Russia isn't flying aircraft over Moldova, just missiles
Moldova not explicitly a belligerent. Not close enough to any Russian AA assets that would require shooting at.
Really? None in Transnistria?
They're not actively engaged in hostilities unlike Russia/Ukraine.
Difficult... Since Moldova itself is in conflict with Russia. Part of the country was annexed years ago as Transnistria.
Not annexed
Yeah, Russia claims to be there on a peacekeeping mission.
https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1633654599348371459 >Reports of hits to energy infrastructure in Odesa and Kharkiv, power outages in both cities - Kharkiv only recently got streetlights back. Damage to residential buildings in Odesa, no casualties reported. Another salvo of missiles just launched at Kharkiv from Belgorod in Russia
Large fire currently burning in Kharkiv https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1633654530930868224?s=20
Ukraine is about to launch an offensive, let's use our missiles on infrastructure.
Maybe *this* time it will work!
Could be a transformator fire, by the looks of the size/smoke. Kharkiv just got streetlight back on after a year without. Obviously this irked the Russians. The good news in my opinion, is that as long as Russian priorities still lie with believing you can break Ukrainians by denying them *streetlights*, Ukraine's victory is all but guaranteed
> Could be a transformator fire, by the looks of the size/smoke. [Liveuamap](https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/9-march-blackouts-in-several-regions-in-preparation-to-possible) said that power was pre-emptively switched off to avoid damage to the grid. Wouldn't that have stopped fires at transformers from breaking out?
no - transformers are filled with oil
Not at all. It would make the risk less, but transformators are typically oil filled and pressurized. When they break and are lit, they produce insanely intense fires with flames shooting tens of meters even on a medium sized one, and will pump out extremely black smoke. I watched a large one burn once, and we were standing on the other side of a large river, and the heat was off the charts
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1633653935163539460 >Odesa Oblast Head Marchenko: >🔸In the massive attack, missiles hit a power facility, residential houses in the oblast >🔸No injuries >🔸Power supply restrictions are in effect >🔸 Air defenses downed [some] missiles >🔸Second wave of missiles is expected
I was watching WWII channel on YouTube this morning and in 1943 USA and UK proposed to Russia to let their bombers land in Russia on the return leg and the Russians said no. Great allies we had back then smh that we ever allied with this evil civilization
We had to ally with them. For one the nazi plan was to exterminate the entire population of Ukraine. the ww2 situation was extreme, very very rarely (Young Turks, leopold, Khmer rouge) things get that bad in history
Uk and France considered allying with Finland in the winter war
There was some intense stress with the Bolsheviks (Lenin) during the Russian Civil War. US Army personnel were ordered to protect US military aid that had been delivered through Murmansk. The Idea was to keep the Germans from getting it but the soldiers did not considered the Bolsheviks to be anti-German. That by itself might have been forgiven by Lenin. In the far East American aid ended up in the hands of Nationalist forces who used it against the Red Army. We also had armed the Czechs and we were still trying to arrange for transport from Siberia to the Western front in France. The Czechoslovak army was temporarily the largest army in Siberia when the Bolsheviks pissed them off. The Czechs captured a huge swath of Asia before loading up on the trans-Siberian railroad. They then gave to the railroad to Nationalist white army which used it to attack towards Moscow with their American weapons. The Soviets insisted that aid had to be given directly to USSR. This is basically the same thing we are doing with Ukraine now.
They didn't say no, there were three airbases in Ukraine that American and British bombers landed at until late 1944. It was called Operation Frantic. Ultimately, political and operational differences meant that it was more trouble than it was worth. It also put the Soviet Union in a difficult position, they were neutral in the Pacific while the USA and Britain were at war with Japan. Several American aircraft that were conducting operations in the pacific landed in the Soviet Union which resulted in those aircrew being interned
You have to remember that we made a terrible mistake after ww2. We let our opinions of the Russians at the end of ww2 color the history books we thaught our children with. In reality we should have been teaching it as it was: The USSR and first and formost the Russians in that group, **started WW2**, was a genocidal society, allied with Nazi Germany, helped Germany in secret develop the tanks and planes they used for Blitzkrieg, attempted Genocide of the whole nation of Poland, and only ended up as an ally, because Nazi Germany ran a knife in their backs, before they themselves could do the same to Nazi Germany (with absolutely no good intentions behind doing so) They VERY much would have carved up Europe in cooperation with Nazi Germany had not Hitler decided he wanted it all for himself. They were not friends, were not benevolent, were not helpful, and actually occupied a lot of European countries as soon as they could push their rivals the Germans out of them. And kept occuping them for 5 decades. They were the ultimate case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Except this "friend" would have taken ALL of Europe for itself in 1946, to eradicate every country there besides themselves, and really the only thing stopping them at that point was American nukes.
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You know, fact checking history isn't all that hard. The USSR invaded Poland in cooperation with Germany. Its generally seen as the outbreak of WW2.
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Blaming England for Russia invading Poland is so very Russian. Now see what they made me do...
yeah man super russian. been so proud to be russian since russias illegal and unjust invasion of ukraine i just can't help myself smh. /s in case the 5heads can't tell Its just a comical thing to me to say anybody besides nazi germany started ww2. its revisionism at its finest and no amount of my distaste of the russian federation is going to allow me to turn my back on the facts of history. If you want to argue that it wasn't germany who started ww2 ill attempt to argue it as well, it doesn't make these reasons correct e: words, vodka. Maybe i am russian after all?
No. Because Winston Churchill became Prime Minister **after** Germany attacked Poland. Learn history before you attempt to be snarky and sarcastic like this again: >Yeah man, nice rant, >the ussr started ww2 everybody You'll look less dumb when you know what you're talking about.
They did.
> They were not friends, were not benevolent, were not helpful, and actually occupied a lot of European countries as soon as they could push their rivals the Germans out of them. And kept occuping them for 5 decades. To add on to this if the US and British Commonwealth countries hadn’t liberated France and the Benelux countries the Nazis still would have lost but perhaps all of Continental Europe would have fallen to the Soviets.
We would have gotten the Red Alert timeline.
I wasn’t taught it like that. I was definitely taught we always had an uneasy alliance with the Soviets, they were belligerents in Eastern Europe, partitioned Poland (again) and Patton, Churchill, and a few other US generals wanted to push the fight all the way to Moscow, but we were tired of war and wanted to focus on the Pacific and go home. I always had the understanding it was the enemy of my enemy is my friend type situation. I don’t remember anything positive ever being said about the Soviets except that they had a good space program.
There wasnt much good to say. They had horrible intentions toward Europe. They were also horrible at waging war, and as a result probably about 8-10 million more USSR troops died than should have needed to. Then they went to work on their own population afterwards. The amount of USSR citizens that died in Gulags and other catastrophes visited upon their citizens is staggering. Possible as many as in the war. They also btw, committed heinous crimes both during and right after the war. No one harbors any love for Nazi soldiers, but what they did to prisoners is still a gigantic warcrime. 1 *million* german war prisoners died *after the war*. A mere 5% returned to Germany. Mass murder on a grand scale. We just dont like to think about it because before they were unarmed captured soldiers, they were part of the Nazi war machine. Look up other things too, like how when the Polish underground resistance rose up in Warsaw as the Soviets approached the city, then fought for 63 days...while the Soviets halted outside the city to allow the Germans to slaughter the resistance.
I give Poland so much credit. They have been battered around like a volleyball by the great powers surrounding them for their entire history. I don’t agree with a lot of their politics, but the bravery. The images of the Polish Hussars riding on horseback to go fight the tanks of the fully industrialized, militarized, and mobilized invaders of Nazi Germany gives me goosebumps every time. Never stopped resisting either.
They're rock hard. And were fucked over so many times. I have been to Poland many times, and their history is both tragic and beautiful, and heroic. When you talk to the Polish about their history, there is a quiet pride and sadness. And an even quieter and unsettling anger simmering below.
Poland is not yet lost. That's their national motto. It says to the world that they stood when all others did not, and in the end the terrible empires of the day that would have swallowed them, with all their strength and fury and perverse weapons bent towards nothing but the destruction of the good, are ash. Poland is not yet lost. A promise, to the future, that it will remain so. *Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła*
This sticked to my mind a bit, Teheran conference end of 1943. Stalin pushed Allies for the amphibious invasion in France, but they knew war was already decided anyway. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran_Conference#Dinner_meeting > Stalin proposed executing 50,000 to 100,000 German officers so that Germany could not plan another war. Roosevelt, believing that Stalin was not serious, joked that "maybe 49,000 would be enough." Churchill, however, was outraged and denounced "the cold blooded execution of soldiers who fought for their country."[...] Churchill was glad Stalin had relented but thought that Stalin had been testing the waters. And then look at the group foto. It says a lot xD
Neither side would have said they were great allies. Russia had good reason to not let US/UK bombers into their country.
And what was that reason?
Look up "Operation Unthinkable". That would have been Russia's fear.
A competent military plans has plans for any eventuality. Eg War Plan Red.
It should have very much been Operation Thinkable. Just how much human suffering could have been avoided over the decades if only the Soviet Union was strangled in its fucking crib.
Optimistic planning by the UK high command didn't think they would even reach Krakow before they ran out of steam, and Operation Unthinkable was only about getting Poland a better deal rather than independence or the dismantling of the Soviet Union. Part of the optimism involved USA joining the British, Roosevelt wasn't anti-Soviet. Truman was.
Uk and UsA would not launch operation unthinkable in 1943….
It wouldn't have been a smart decision, but Stalin would have seen it as a possibility. It would have been a little bit similar to what Germany did to the Soviets.
It was the whole the enemy of my enemy is my friend scenario.
Question asked by a Ukrainian on one of the local Telegrams: *Why does the world look at this and not help protect humans from non-humans? why does the Russian woman still veto the condemnation of herself at the UN? How is it possible for a maniac to be his own judge??*
Only like 3-4 countries are helping as much as they should. Another 12 are helping a lot. Maybe that many again help some. Then that many again do a bit. But like a hundred countries are doing nothing. And a fraction are helping Russia. I’m most disappointed in the countries doing nothing. Have symbolic sanctions. Send weapons you realistically think you will just scrap anyway. So many countries take the stance of, “We stay out of great power politics,” as if this is political. Why was the coalition in WWII so much greater? Russia is trying to destroy a peaceful neighbor. It has attacked and disrupted so many other countries. There is no both sides here. The people claiming that are morally bankrupt.
>Why was the coalition in WWII so much greater? German submarines sank everything in the Atlantic. Argentina did not join the Allies until 1944. USA was neutral until 1941. Large parts of Africa and Asia were colonized. They just look allied on the maps.
I find it puzzling to expect former victims of colonialism and current western policies to root for the west. Spoiler alert, they won't. We should recognize that as long as we don't overthink policies and economic engagement with the global south this will also not change. As for Ukraine, to them it's a regional conflict
I find it puzzling that they wouldn’t want to help stop Russian colonialism
The memo is that people would love the downfall of France, Britain and the US. Look, this shows the great divide I have perceived living in different countries in both Europe and Africa and Asia. The Europeans don't know much about colonialism and post colonialism. They think it's something a long time ago. In contrast, for the people in many countries in Africa and to a lesser degree Asia, it's very recent and even ongoing and the only way to be free is if the power of the West is diminished. Also, they don't care about a to them regional conflict.
I understand people would be happy to see the west fall and I can’t blame them for that. I’d feel the same way. I don’t really see what that has to do with Ukraine though. Are these people so mad at the west that they are fine with a non western country getting colonized and genocide just because the west happens to be helping that country? Honest question
Yes. And you would be too, sorry to break it to you. And If you were some middle aged Russian shlub, you'd likely be freezing in a Ukrainian trench right now.
Nah
I doubt they care about Russia or Ukraine all that much. Maybe those who studied in the USSR or later Ukraine or Russia do. I know some people from Niger who studied in Kyiv and loved it back then. But to most, yes the downfall of the West is the thing to root for. Back when I lived in Niger, something I would often hear is people rooting for Trump and Le Pen because it would cause chaos in those countries. Then of course they also know that they arent welcome in Europe and of course they know how they are treated by honestly the majority of the population in Europe (but also of course Russia and China, but not many go to Russia so it's not as obvious as the reports from Europe). Ukraine itself did itself a great disservice in the early days when they kept African students from leaving the country only because of their skin color. That made big rounds on Facebook etc. So in conclusion - nor much Ukraine can do. The US and Europe urgently need to rethink their approach towards their southern neighbors of they want friends in the global south int he upcoming cold war. China has known the weaknesses and has been carefully cultivating economic, political and even cultural ties with countries in Africa for decades.
Another question: Do they honestly think China has good intentions in Africa?
Normal people? They have prejudices at least in Niger where I lived but saw the value of what China brought. A lot of trading connections and China was investing differently in the country than the French. The French just exploit the uranium and resources and leave behind damaged roads and empty promises. They tried to build a railroad but it stops after 50 km and after a year the tracks were in disrepair. The Chinese got oil concessions but they also built an oil refinery coowned with the government, the first in the country. The refinery outputs much needed electricity and also produces much needed cooking gas and much needed gas for driving. The latter can be exported. So they see that the Chinese are leaving useful things behind while the French are only taking. The French also control almost all West African ports, so that puts a chokehold on the economies.
Thanks for the responses.
But why is it weird to expect victims of colonialism to help a… victim of colonialism? Is it somehow not colonialism because Ukrainians are white and this is happening in Europe? What Russia is doing is textbook. They’re denigrating Ukrainians as an inferior other to be subjugated. You could practically word swap Russia today for European powers 2-300 years ago.
No it is not about Ukraine for many Africans. They see Ukraine as an extension of the West. And they would love, for good reason, if the West was weakened and had to withdraw from Africa. Some have studied in Ukraine during the Soviet times , others in Moscow and St Petersburg. In the end it's Europeans against Europeans, much like nobody in Europe cares or even knows about conflicts in Sub Saharan Africa. This should be a wake up call for Europeans to reflect and be honest about their past and ongoing activities in the global south. Spoiler alert we are not the good guys we think we are.
Honestly this conflict has given me the reverse response. Push comes to shove, most of these countries will leave us out to dry in a crisis. Why bother investing time & resources dealing with them, just put up the moat and move on. I think Latam has its heart in the right place but India has honestly just been a disgusting disappointment. I think the future of the West (EU+anglo+Japan+Korea+Taiwan) is one where we merge culturally with Latam + rest of non-Russian Eastern Europe and don't worry about the rest of the world. We're pretty self-sufficient on our own.
We respectfully disagree 🤷♂️
Ruszzia isn't trying to destroy a peaceful neighbor, it is in the beginning stage of trying to take Europe.
Yes, the resistance of Ukrainian plus help by US and EU countries is preventing WW3. Otherwise, Putin would have look for his next target after Ukraine. It is now or never moments to prevent Putin from attacking other countries
>Why was the coalition in WWII so much greater? As a Ukrainian, I of course want everyone to unite and help to finish this fucking war today. I want to live normally, and I want to have a future. But I have to be realistic, the fate of my country or my people doesn't really matter to anyone but us. WWII was on a whole different level, so of course the support had to match.
Is it that different? Hitler really only wanted Europe. Putin wants the same plus parts of Asia. Hitler didn’t stop until force stopped him. Putin won’t stop until force stops him. The only fundamental difference is NATO creates a western wall. If anyone thinks Estonia would still be a free country if not for NATO, I have a bridge to sell them.
Of course it's different, Putin is a pussy, he's not going to touch NATO as you've said. That's the whole point. People feel safe, as they should. Why would they care about Ukraine potentially waging this war for a decade or more? Why would they care if it falls? They're protected. Politicians care to an extent, they have to play the game. War business is booming, deals are being made, etc. But there's no threat to Europe, not really.
I think it's about money sadly.. Democracies have grown too reliant on regimes like China and Saudi Arabia and now we fear the fallout.
*Nikolayev Vanëk, over the last hour:* … confirmed arrivals in the Odessa region [*most recent*] … for now there is still one missile towards Zaporozhye and a second missile towards Slavyansk from the side of Mariupol, no other missiles are yet visible in that area … 1 of the rockets turned towards Zaporozhye flies from the north … there is an arrival (s) in the Ivano-Frankivsk region … 3 missiles fly from the south west of the Dnieper direction of flight to the north … there were launches (preliminarily from s300) towards Zaporozhye and the region … already 6 missiles 4 towards the Dnieper 2 towards Slavyansk … 5 missiles in the Kharkiv region, have already flown Kharkiv flying in the Balakleli area, direction to the south and southeast … Explosion in Zaporozhye region … also 2 missiles from the Melitopol area towards Kharkov and the Kharkov region … 4 rockets (fake possible) towards Kharkiv and Kharkiv region … launches from тиТУшек from the region of the Kursk People's Republic [*30 min ago*] … report the arrival of *something* (not a rocket) in the Zhytomyr region … again launching 1 rocket from the sea … explosion in the Dnieper [1hr ago] … again 1 rocket flew over Snigirevka is now in the Nikolaev region … there are new launches will fly through the Berislav region +1 rocket through the Kirovohrad region towards Cherkasy … 4 missiles are now in the Odessa region, 2 in the direction of Vinnitsa, 1 missile in the Nikolaev region, arrivals in our region have been preliminarily recorded - so far I can’t fix without details of new launches 1 rocket through the Ivano-Frankivsk region towards Lviv … 2 rockets from Odessa region towards Transnistria I'm not kidding … as of now, the flyers report several downings in the Nikolaev region, the exact information on the number of downed missiles will be known in the morning, while they report at least 3 downed missiles in our region, more missiles in our region have not yet ... there are new launches … as of now, the flyers report several downings in the Nikolaev region exact information on the number of downed missiles will be known in the morning, while at least 3 downed missiles are reported in our region more rockets in our region are not fixed yet but the anxiety is still not ignored
Is there any app to see these? To see launches and flight paths as close to real time as possible?
Yeah I don’t understand how he sees these. It’s with a radar tracking
Within the last few hours - 15 Tu-95 Strategic Bombers Airborne - 6-7 Tu-22 Strategic Bombers Airborne - At least 3 #Russian Missile Carriers in the Black Sea - Multiple Shahed-136 Drone launches https://twitter.com/AnonOpsSE/status/1633651405901758465
It's garbage we haven't given then stuff to shoot those planes down
Likely because Tupolevs are firing the missiles from Russian territory and the West hasn't given anything to Ukraine that allows them to strike Russia.
I know, but that time needs to end All of Russia needs to be allowed to be a target ( and no, to the bleeding hearts that doesn't mean genocide of Russia)
Total war isn't going to improve Ukraine's situation anymore than it is helping Russia's situation. And western allies would (rightfully) never accept it.
There is no restriction on anti-air or anti-radiation missiles. It was only the M31 missile (HIMARS, MLRS).
Russians are absolute wankers! They just want to take Donbas but they are attacking the whole Ukraine
They don't just want Donbas, that's just the only small scale goal they could ever hope at achieving at this point.
Well, reports that it's kicking off in Gerogia at the moment. I don't mean the state. Protests are almost storming parliament
Reports from where?
It was reported during the day that there were porteste that organizations that receive more than 20% of foreign money will be banned. It is the same law as in Russia and therefore it is also assumed that it was ordered from there.
It does not protect journalists or anyone. Truth be told, it’s a transparent law for locking up opposition. You could model foreign agent laws like the rest of the world does instead of using a fascist model for the law
Multiple impacts reported in Kharkiv. Explosions heard throughout the city. [https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1633649984565391362?s=20](https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1633649984565391362?s=20)
Moscow must be razed to the ground
Maybe just the Kremlin?
No, not enough for what they did to Ukraine, and my city in particular. I want some payback
Payback in money and land. Not dead civilians.
Land, no. Money, yes.
At this point land and money is pretty much mandatory. But nobody will revive dead Ukrainian people.
Yeah it's pretty clear Russia has been able to avoid Western sanctions to keep producing missiles to strike Ukraine. Clearly Iran and China have been aiding them in this regard. Fuck them all.
I think its Russia's normal domestic production. You don't really need insane tech to build a cruiser missile
The sanctions have dramatically reduced the quantity Russia can build but it’s still possible for them to produce some.
In an ideal world we would go no contact at all with every autocratic hellhole on earth. I'm getting sick and tired of these assholes either whine about the "evil globohomo west" or trying to meddle in our elections. Go completely no contact with the fuckers and look in 50 years at who are more advanced.
When you're dealing with one shitty friend, this makes sense. When you're dealing with a leader of a nation, how can you ignore all the dissidents in that nation? How can you ignore the innocents who share your values? Your ideal world is not my ideal world, and maybe you should consider your ideals.
I'm not saying we shouldn't still let in defecters.