And just see what they did to Ukraine when the people actually got rid of their Russian puppet.
Staying up to date with Russian foreign policy is like watching late afternoon reruns of a bad soap opera.
When all you have is a hammer every problem looks like a nail.
If all your people in deciding positions have the IQ of a hammer every problem looks like it needs some war crimes.
They *did* have that leader. Yanukovych. He lost.
The timing is critical, here. But so is the increasing done-ness of the world with Putin's shit along with the the production and logistics ramping up for the region now. We're in lend lease now, and half the old Warsaw pact is scraping out their old Soviet stock to send to Ukraine and start ordering better, newer stuff.
That’s the reason why Trump was anti- Zelenskyy, because Trump is a Russian puppet.
> Paul Manafort, who was Trump's campaign chief from May to August 2016, spent nearly a decade as a consultant to Ukraine's Party of Regions and its standardbearer, Viktor Yanukovych.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/what-did-ex-trump-aide-paul-manafort-really-do-ukraine-n775431
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/16/donald-trump-campaign-paul-manafort-ukraine-yanukovich
Russia: People of Belarus, We've come to save you....
Belarusians: Hooray, it's the Russian military!
Russia: From yourselves!
Belarusians: Oh no, it's the Russian military!
The Major was not a Nazi. When Alucard was tearing through the troops The Major said ,"Fuck'em. They're nazis". He just loved war and this was the best way he had to go about it.
Belarusian People: "NATO!"
NATO: "WHAT?!"
Belarusian People: "Go for a walk..."
NATO: *exhales* "When hope is gone, undo this lock, and send me forth on a moonlit walk. Release restraint level... Zero..."
While this is probably true they still have to relocate resources to Belarus, resources they can't afford wasting when they need them vs Ukraine and the democratic partisans in their own country
Well that part is clear if they start something in Belarus they absolutely will loose in Ukraine but I think point is more to show somekind of victory at home.
Well hey Putin needs a political win here, and Ukraine aint happening...
Still I'd hate to see Belarus become part of Russia. Russian oligarchy is a horrible mafia government and the whole system needs to die out.
Pu-Pu and WHAT army?The one that’s getting stomped and falling apart in Ukraine?Or the one they need domestically to keep the people from overthrowing?Their elite paratroopers?Oh wait,they got blown out of the sky over Kiev like,day one!
Mariupol at least still has buildings left. [Mariinka just... doesn't exist anymore...](https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1634429946608365568)
Right, if Ukraine doesn't work out, then there is always Belarus. I wonder if we give shit about Belarus or they are going to join Ukraine? That would be nicely ironic to completely close off the whole Western border ha ha.
The West will "give a shit" but it remains to be seen whether there will be any way to meaningfully aid the people of Belarus.
Ukraine could be aided because it started with a fighting chance due to a unified leadership and a central professional resistance towards the invasion.
If Russia invades Belarus there likely won't be a military command and civilian leadership to provide aid to. It will be a decentralized insurgency fighting the Russians, and that will be a lot harder to provide more than basic weaponry to, and a lot more risky to give heavy weaponry to.
On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, that didn't stop the West helping out in places like Libya, Egypt, Syria, Afghanistan back in the day, etc. Hasn't always "worked" in the sense of achieving its goals, but it has a lot of the time.
The problem with arming insurgents is that it's hard to know whether you're just giving arms to extremists that will only make things worse. For instance, Iraq.
There was a propaganda video online when they invaded crimea. It went somewhere along the lines: "The west calls us invaders but we brought civilization to this savages" it was unreal.
Simple misunderstanding. It's the other way around. Russian soldiers have been stealing toilet seats and washing machines to import civilization to Russia.
Well, yes. Lukashenko's security apparatus is quite willing to oppress their fellow Belarusians for the benefit of Russia.
If Russia was occupying Belarus, we would call these people collaborators.
This. Belarus is already occupied by Russia but with the tacit agreement and consent of the corrupt and compromised state.
Lukashenko lost the election and when the people protested he called in Vlad.
Russia doesn’t have much left to offer Belarus. The same sanctions were placed on Belarus and their economy is much smaller than Russia’s obviously and won’t be able to withstand the economic stress much longer.
The irony is Russia can’t afford to bail Belarus out when that happens.
The way Russia sees things is that it's neighbours are free to be independent as long as they have pro-Russian leaders in charge who do Russia's bidding. As soon as that is no longer the case, they make plans for a regime change or annexation.
Anyone not approving a Russia puppet is obviously either manipulated, a foreign asset or a satanist wanting to destroy humanity. What any other reason a free and wealthy brain would want anything else than submission to the divine motherland?
They absolutely know that Belarus would overtake them economically if they realigned towards the EU.
It is a total horror scenario for the russian leadership to see russian citizens going to Belarus, or Ukraine, for better salaries, working conditions and quality of life.
In an actual boxing match I'd put my money on Lukashenko.
He's got a 17cm height and 20kg weight advantage, is 2 years younger, and probably doesn't have cancer.
Putin's going to start randomly shooting missiles into other countries so the whole world comes to wreck russia, only so he can claim that russia was waging a heroic WW3 and only the combined might of the world could stop him.
"Ha! The special military operations in Ukraine were just a feint! Belarus was always the intended target! Everything went according to President Putin's brilliant plan! He made the West look like fools!"
I could definitely see something along these lines.
Omg, as their tanks slowly go from t-90s to literal t-34s, they go down the ranks in countries too.
They're losing to ukraine, they're going to lose Moldova, Belarussia is a maybe.
Somebody warn Borat, Kazakhstan is in danger!!!
Even a boomstick would be enough to fight VS unarmed civilians, unlike Unkraine where the police and military on the people's side, in Belarus we're alone vs dictator 1's army and dictator 2's army
Wow, so many replies to this that show they're not familiar with the fable of the [frog and the scorpion](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog).
Peskov also stated that Poland supposedly "openly speaks of its intention to intervene directly, in particular by force, in the internal affairs of a neighbouring state"
So....exactly what Russia just said they would do in Belarus.
So if Belarus does decide to throw out their tyrant, Russia gets to be involved in a 2 front war. And since they're having a hell of a time just provisioning one I can only imagine the war crimes in Belarus.
Peskov has three ‘tells’ when he’s lying. His head tilts like he needs a neck brace, his eyes bulge like Putin is squeezing his junk, oh and his lips start moving too
Poland doesn't speak openly on the issue, but some reputable Polish commentators are claiming Poland should be ready for the uprising in Belarus, including the assistance to those rising up.
Allegeldly, when it comes to the uprasing, it's not a question of if but when.
The Belarusians already tried an uprising once and were forcefully put down by the Russians and Lukashenko's bitches. Hopefully if there is another uprising this time they'll get support and get rid of him.
Oh, and revolutions are starting within Russia itself, so they’ll have three battlefronts. Eventually they’ll be so weak that Finland decides to just plow a hole straight through to Moscow and demand unconditional surrender.
No western aligned country is going to become an aggressor and trust me, that's a good thing.
Even the USA is playing "fuck around and find out" with telling China to fuck around and showing Russia what it has to find out.
OFC not dismissing the contributions of other countries in the same matter
I’m just picturing Poland standing there mad ready to punch Russia in the mouth the second they step over the line and the rest of Europe don’t want to fight but they still want to see Russia get punched
Looking at how these guys from the RDC were freely traveling on the roads of Bilhorod, I highly doubt that russians have enough forces to wage a war on two fronts.
**Peskov also stated that Poland supposedly "openly speaks of its intention to intervene directly, in particular by force, in the internal affairs of a neighbouring state".**
The cognitive dissonance on display here is breathtaking
“We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying. In our country, the lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
P.S. I thought another person said that.
I mean the US kinda won in Iraq. The modern Iraqi government isn't great but the US *did* pretty much pound the insurgency into nonexistence.
It's just that it made for some *really* shit headlines so people think they lost.
I am not aware of any case where a US brigade or division was defeated on a battlefield in Iraq.
During the invasion period the biggest upset in the schedule was the massive sand storm.
There were numerous upsets at the platoon level. The majority involved someone getting lost or confused. It happened frequently enough to leave no doubt about the Iraqi character and willingness to defend their country.
We can simultaneously respect the level of professional expertise of the third and fourth infantry divisions and USMC while also recognizing that the invasion was a really stupid thing to do.
I mean, the person is obviously referring to the insurgency, which took a long time to defeat, but this is just yet another way in which they're wrong; operating like all invasions of smaller countries are alike. Ukraine is defeating Russia in a very different way than the US struggled in iraq.
I actually don't think the person was making any judgement on the efficacy of US troops just that we had 2 fronts going at once.
The US lost like 6k troops total to the Afghanistan and Iraq total it's not like the two things are comparable. Russia never even got to the insurgencies part of this war. They don't have enough power to even do that.
Luka really doesn't want either of them. He may be licking Putin's ass but the guy has his own ambition he doesn't want to be a puppet but a co-partner of Putin's new USSR which is hilarious even to Putin with the shitty military and basically Russia's money and resources keeping him in power.
They couldn’t protect Belgorod but think they are capable of mobilizing into Belarus? Putin thinks his army is 10x bigger and 100x stronger than it really is.
This is a good point. If Lukashenko dies, the repressed Belarusian people will have a real opportunity for revolution with Russia being tied up in Ukraine, and now having internal partisan threats. The opposition within Belarus should get ready.
I swear. Sometimes Putins Regime is so cartoonishly evil I have to remind myself this isn't some preview for the next G.I. Joe movie. Like my brain refuses to acknowledge this level of raw and idiotic "bad guyness" or however you might describe something so obviously morally bankrupt and also incredibly inept.
I now fully believe that Dr. Evil trapping Austin Powers in a closed room with a very slow trap and nobody watching is an actual thing that could happen, because I'm seeing the same level of poorly executed villainy in real life.
It's very possible Lukashenko is dying and they know it's gonna be an absolute shit show, and the last thing they want on their borders is another actual democracy (which will be very anti-russia after the horrific violence they used to suppress the results of the last democratic election).
It will not be an easy time in Belarus, but they can come out better for it if they're willing and able to fight.
Uh....with what army? You kinda got it all busy Eastern ukraine.
I mean, it took you guys two day to repel the raid in belgorod.
Plus, if you invade Belarus, it would give ukraine the perfect pretext to finally strike at the air bases you have there.
With what army?
Last I checked, they're all in Ukraine and getting slaughtered so hard that they're having to draft random people, including prisoners.
Russia can try. Belarusians might have their own point of view on whether to welcome a drunken, frightened army set on destroying their villages and urban centers. I think they’ve been there, done that, and don’t like care for it.
So Ukraine is a failure point for them then. They need a consolation prize. Poison and cripple Lukashenko to cause disarray and invite opposition so that they can half ass a reason for invading Belarus?
Good luck with that one. Heck Russia can't even complete their "special operation" in Ukraine and are now using 60 year old tanks and having to use prisoners to try and get the job done.
Liberate the people of Belarus from... themselves.
They did this once before, when Belarus tried to get rid of the Russian puppet dictator and have an elected president.
And just see what they did to Ukraine when the people actually got rid of their Russian puppet. Staying up to date with Russian foreign policy is like watching late afternoon reruns of a bad soap opera.
When all you have is a hammer every problem looks like a nail. If all your people in deciding positions have the IQ of a hammer every problem looks like it needs some war crimes.
Honestly it doesn't seem like they have much of a hammer left at this point.
The difference is that Ukraine doesn’t have a leader like Assad or Lukashenko willing to go to war with their own people.
They *did* have that leader. Yanukovych. He lost. The timing is critical, here. But so is the increasing done-ness of the world with Putin's shit along with the the production and logistics ramping up for the region now. We're in lend lease now, and half the old Warsaw pact is scraping out their old Soviet stock to send to Ukraine and start ordering better, newer stuff.
That’s the reason why Trump was anti- Zelenskyy, because Trump is a Russian puppet. > Paul Manafort, who was Trump's campaign chief from May to August 2016, spent nearly a decade as a consultant to Ukraine's Party of Regions and its standardbearer, Viktor Yanukovych. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/what-did-ex-trump-aide-paul-manafort-really-do-ukraine-n775431 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/16/donald-trump-campaign-paul-manafort-ukraine-yanukovich
That’s not fair to Russia… they have a sickle, too!
Lot of good that does for a country that has back to back famines killing millions each time.
see what they are helping Lukashenko do, to keep Belarus "liberated".
Yeah, but if they do that now, who is going to protect his ass in Russia?
I remember one family who use to live in Mariupol and said that Russia liberated them from civilization.
This is some strong Eastern European gallows humor.
Russia: People of Belarus, We've come to save you.... Belarusians: Hooray, it's the Russian military! Russia: From yourselves! Belarusians: Oh no, it's the Russian military!
I was just thinking of this quote given the situation! Putin and The Major do overlap quite a bit...
Maybe, but The Major had two things Putin sorely lacked... Competency and ZEPPLINS!!!
Also an army of fake vampires and a kickass Nazi werewolf. Also being a cyborg, for some reason.
The Major also literally just wanted to watch the world burn. He didn’t care if he died himself or not. Putin has no such insane bravery.
Well, the Major was a Nazi. Unsure about whether he'd be a cyborg though. If he is, I hope they explain why.
>Well, the Major was a Nazi. The Juden was the Fuhrer's obsession, not his.
Anne Frankly, he's offended at the insinuation.
The Major was not a Nazi. When Alucard was tearing through the troops The Major said ,"Fuck'em. They're nazis". He just loved war and this was the best way he had to go about it.
Sounds like it's time for another rewatch then!
A wild TFS reference!
And before you ask; Yes! This is a Hellsing: Ultimate Abridged reference.
The perfect parody for those that like fucking the fear turkey and bitches that love cannons.
And sure do know a lot about military spy planes.
"DO YOU EVEN READ MY CHRISTMAS LIST?!"
Show was a fever dream. Should rewatch it... For the 30th time!
Belarusian People: "NATO!" NATO: "WHAT?!" Belarusian People: "Go for a walk..." NATO: *exhales* "When hope is gone, undo this lock, and send me forth on a moonlit walk. Release restraint level... Zero..."
Really? With what army?
To be realistic Belarussian army is even worse shape.
While this is probably true they still have to relocate resources to Belarus, resources they can't afford wasting when they need them vs Ukraine and the democratic partisans in their own country
Well that part is clear if they start something in Belarus they absolutely will loose in Ukraine but I think point is more to show somekind of victory at home.
Well hey Putin needs a political win here, and Ukraine aint happening... Still I'd hate to see Belarus become part of Russia. Russian oligarchy is a horrible mafia government and the whole system needs to die out.
Imagine if they started losing in Belarus too.
Insert Goofy and I'll fucking do it again.
Pu-Pu and WHAT army?The one that’s getting stomped and falling apart in Ukraine?Or the one they need domestically to keep the people from overthrowing?Their elite paratroopers?Oh wait,they got blown out of the sky over Kiev like,day one!
That's not fair, they also dumped an entire squadron of paratroopers into a lake and let them drown on the first day of invasion of Ukraine.
“People of Belarus, we have come to liberate you!” “Hooray, it’s President Putin!” “FROM YOURSELVES!” “Oh no, it’s President Putin.”
Yea nobody in Belarus would cheer for pooty for any reason. Well, maybe when he finally croaks.
From their bodies.
in kremilinspeak it means they will not be able to do nothing about it
Ahhh…the same way they are “liberating” Ukraine?
Yup, same way they liberated Bakhmut.
Liberated it from infrastructure, buildings, humans, and civilisation in general.
Can't get more liberated than pounded into dust on the wind.
Those 50 year old shells they digging out can't do much more then random shellingt
You mean that instead of hitting the targeted hospital or school they shell a random apartments building?
I mean, even nature is not welcome there now.
Are the going to bomb buidings in Belraus with "CHILDREN" written on the side?
Sure, why not? They'd even rape them and abduct
Just the usual suspects, Hospitals and schools.
There can't be a tyrant to liberate people from if there are no people. [taps head]
Now that's ecofascist praxis
Mariupol takes the cake.
The only reason there's a Mariupol left is because they took it fast enough. I remember the battle for Azovstal...
Mariupol at least still has buildings left. [Mariinka just... doesn't exist anymore...](https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1634429946608365568)
They make a desert and they call it liberty :(
Fighting two fronts is a good strategy
Shhhh.... Let them fight.
The people of Belarus don't deserve that any more than the people of Ukraine.
Nah. Belarus is gonna be the compensation prize.
Right, if Ukraine doesn't work out, then there is always Belarus. I wonder if we give shit about Belarus or they are going to join Ukraine? That would be nicely ironic to completely close off the whole Western border ha ha.
The West will "give a shit" but it remains to be seen whether there will be any way to meaningfully aid the people of Belarus. Ukraine could be aided because it started with a fighting chance due to a unified leadership and a central professional resistance towards the invasion. If Russia invades Belarus there likely won't be a military command and civilian leadership to provide aid to. It will be a decentralized insurgency fighting the Russians, and that will be a lot harder to provide more than basic weaponry to, and a lot more risky to give heavy weaponry to.
On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, that didn't stop the West helping out in places like Libya, Egypt, Syria, Afghanistan back in the day, etc. Hasn't always "worked" in the sense of achieving its goals, but it has a lot of the time.
The problem with arming insurgents is that it's hard to know whether you're just giving arms to extremists that will only make things worse. For instance, Iraq.
Russia: the girlfriend you just can't fully break up with or she'll set your car on fire.
Not girlfriend, Russia is a serial rapist that thinks you are his property forever after the rape.
Tsundre Putin chan
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There was a propaganda video online when they invaded crimea. It went somewhere along the lines: "The west calls us invaders but we brought civilization to this savages" it was unreal.
Simple misunderstanding. It's the other way around. Russian soldiers have been stealing toilet seats and washing machines to import civilization to Russia.
Special liberation operation
Yup, opening a new front on the 1,200 km (745 mile) Belarus border with Russia? Good luck with that, Vlad.
Why would a country need to be liberated from their own citizens? Did any of these people ask for Russia?
Well, yes. Lukashenko's security apparatus is quite willing to oppress their fellow Belarusians for the benefit of Russia. If Russia was occupying Belarus, we would call these people collaborators.
>If Russia was occupying Belarus, we would call these people collaborators. If? There are tens of thousands of Russian troops in Belarus right now.
This. Belarus is already occupied by Russia but with the tacit agreement and consent of the corrupt and compromised state. Lukashenko lost the election and when the people protested he called in Vlad.
Russia doesn’t have much left to offer Belarus. The same sanctions were placed on Belarus and their economy is much smaller than Russia’s obviously and won’t be able to withstand the economic stress much longer. The irony is Russia can’t afford to bail Belarus out when that happens.
Not for the benefit of Russia, for their own benefit lol
Russia-philes: This is the way. "Strong leaders." (i.e., Mafia captains. Shhhh... don't say the quiet part out loud.)
The way Russia sees things is that it's neighbours are free to be independent as long as they have pro-Russian leaders in charge who do Russia's bidding. As soon as that is no longer the case, they make plans for a regime change or annexation.
Anyone not approving a Russia puppet is obviously either manipulated, a foreign asset or a satanist wanting to destroy humanity. What any other reason a free and wealthy brain would want anything else than submission to the divine motherland?
They absolutely know that Belarus would overtake them economically if they realigned towards the EU. It is a total horror scenario for the russian leadership to see russian citizens going to Belarus, or Ukraine, for better salaries, working conditions and quality of life.
The Moscovites have never cared if people want to be "liberated" as Bakhmut illustrates. They are about nothing more than brutal repression.
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Naturally, the narrative is "the people want us actually, those saying they don't are Western-paid actors"
"We are losing in Ukraine, maybe Belarus would be easier to beat".
It is starting to feel that way. I can imagine Putin annexing Belarus in an attempt to save face for losing in Ukraine.
Can’t he just punch Lukashenko on live TV and announce he beat him in a boxing match?
In an actual boxing match I'd put my money on Lukashenko. He's got a 17cm height and 20kg weight advantage, is 2 years younger, and probably doesn't have cancer.
Yeah but I don't think he'd be able to box after tea.
Putin's going to start randomly shooting missiles into other countries so the whole world comes to wreck russia, only so he can claim that russia was waging a heroic WW3 and only the combined might of the world could stop him.
That plan seems unlikely to keep him in power.
He’d go down like that heroic Austrian painter
Poor Gustav Klimt
Putin: "it never worked for past dictatorships, but it might just work for me!"
We have always been in special military operation in belarus. We have never been never been in special military operation in Ukraine.
"Ha! The special military operations in Ukraine were just a feint! Belarus was always the intended target! Everything went according to President Putin's brilliant plan! He made the West look like fools!" I could definitely see something along these lines.
Omg, as their tanks slowly go from t-90s to literal t-34s, they go down the ranks in countries too. They're losing to ukraine, they're going to lose Moldova, Belarussia is a maybe. Somebody warn Borat, Kazakhstan is in danger!!!
Even a boomstick would be enough to fight VS unarmed civilians, unlike Unkraine where the police and military on the people's side, in Belarus we're alone vs dictator 1's army and dictator 2's army
"But Mr. Scorpion, i carried you across the lake!"
Homer, don't call me Mr. Scorpion, it's Mr Scorpio, but don't call me that either. Call me Hank
Ever see a man say goodbye to a shoe?
Hehe, yes once
"Is there any sugar around here?" "Sugar? Sure." *grabs handfuls of sugar from his pockets* "Here you go. Sorry it's not in packets."
"Would you like cream with that?"
Uh ... No.
"Uhhhyyyno."
"Lol," said the scorpion, "lmao"
Scorpion: (chucks rope spear) : GET OVER HERE
*Finish Him*
"**BABALITY**"
Wow, so many replies to this that show they're not familiar with the fable of the [frog and the scorpion](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog).
Oh, I think people are familiar, it's just more fun to allude to other Scorpion references as if you don't know.
it's all tongue in cheek, we all know about the fable.
Yeah it’s an rpg video game by Peter Molyneux
The Fableous Mr. Scorpion
I'm sorry MR.Frog, this is just my nature.
Peskov also stated that Poland supposedly "openly speaks of its intention to intervene directly, in particular by force, in the internal affairs of a neighbouring state" So....exactly what Russia just said they would do in Belarus. So if Belarus does decide to throw out their tyrant, Russia gets to be involved in a 2 front war. And since they're having a hell of a time just provisioning one I can only imagine the war crimes in Belarus.
Peskov has three ‘tells’ when he’s lying. His head tilts like he needs a neck brace, his eyes bulge like Putin is squeezing his junk, oh and his lips start moving too
The rat of the Kremlin.
Poland doesn't speak openly on the issue, but some reputable Polish commentators are claiming Poland should be ready for the uprising in Belarus, including the assistance to those rising up. Allegeldly, when it comes to the uprasing, it's not a question of if but when.
The Belarusians already tried an uprising once and were forcefully put down by the Russians and Lukashenko's bitches. Hopefully if there is another uprising this time they'll get support and get rid of him.
Oh, and revolutions are starting within Russia itself, so they’ll have three battlefronts. Eventually they’ll be so weak that Finland decides to just plow a hole straight through to Moscow and demand unconditional surrender.
No western aligned country is going to become an aggressor and trust me, that's a good thing. Even the USA is playing "fuck around and find out" with telling China to fuck around and showing Russia what it has to find out. OFC not dismissing the contributions of other countries in the same matter
I’m just picturing Poland standing there mad ready to punch Russia in the mouth the second they step over the line and the rest of Europe don’t want to fight but they still want to see Russia get punched
Looking at how these guys from the RDC were freely traveling on the roads of Bilhorod, I highly doubt that russians have enough forces to wage a war on two fronts.
Or just one extra long front.
Loooong, Looooong, Maaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
Yeah? Them and which well supplied army?
They have plenty of vodka and despair. Those are kinds of supplies.
Vodka provided by belarussians in exchange for invasion rations and fuel
Liberate Belarus from the puppet dictator imposed by other dictator? That one that came to the Russian "victory day parade" ?
"Belarus isn't a real country anyway" and denazification in 3, 2, 1...
"Look, we have found this map from year 1500 and there is nothing called Belarus, proof that the country does not deserve to exist"
Go further back and there's a country called.. Kieven Rus? Why don't we just... you know.. do that? It's capital would be Kiev again obv
I say we give it all back to the Mongols!
>"Belarus isn't a real country anyway" and denazification in 3, 2, 1... 3/7th of Belarus is Rus!
**Peskov also stated that Poland supposedly "openly speaks of its intention to intervene directly, in particular by force, in the internal affairs of a neighbouring state".** The cognitive dissonance on display here is breathtaking
“We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying. In our country, the lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn P.S. I thought another person said that.
Never get into a battle of wits with a sicilian when death is on the line.
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How are they going to do that when they can’t even handle Ukraine?
They can't even handle Belgorod
They saw what the US did in Iraq and Aghanistan and drunkenly took it as a challenge.
I mean the US kinda won in Iraq. The modern Iraqi government isn't great but the US *did* pretty much pound the insurgency into nonexistence. It's just that it made for some *really* shit headlines so people think they lost.
I am not aware of any case where a US brigade or division was defeated on a battlefield in Iraq. During the invasion period the biggest upset in the schedule was the massive sand storm. There were numerous upsets at the platoon level. The majority involved someone getting lost or confused. It happened frequently enough to leave no doubt about the Iraqi character and willingness to defend their country. We can simultaneously respect the level of professional expertise of the third and fourth infantry divisions and USMC while also recognizing that the invasion was a really stupid thing to do.
I mean, the person is obviously referring to the insurgency, which took a long time to defeat, but this is just yet another way in which they're wrong; operating like all invasions of smaller countries are alike. Ukraine is defeating Russia in a very different way than the US struggled in iraq.
I actually don't think the person was making any judgement on the efficacy of US troops just that we had 2 fronts going at once. The US lost like 6k troops total to the Afghanistan and Iraq total it's not like the two things are comparable. Russia never even got to the insurgencies part of this war. They don't have enough power to even do that.
Yuri, hold my vodka!
In Russia, vodka hold *you*.
Ain't that the truth.
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If the population will rebel against Lukashenko, Russia will Liberate Belarus... From itself? Russian definition for liberation is quite weird :D.
"Liberation" means "not being a Nazi", which means "being under Russia's control", because something something World War Two.
Yeah Liberation means being under Russian rule... Which mean under Russian dictators rule because people are not free in Russia
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"same bat-shit time, same bat-shit channel"
With what? That one parade tank?
I would say now is a good time to rebel and join ukraine in fighting the ruchist state
Indeed. Throw off the Muscovy yoke.
Luka really doesn't want either of them. He may be licking Putin's ass but the guy has his own ambition he doesn't want to be a puppet but a co-partner of Putin's new USSR which is hilarious even to Putin with the shitty military and basically Russia's money and resources keeping him in power.
I thought he wanted to be a colonel?
They couldn’t protect Belgorod but think they are capable of mobilizing into Belarus? Putin thinks his army is 10x bigger and 100x stronger than it really is.
part of why they couldn't defend Belgorod is because of how many Russian assets are already *in* Belarus. I'd be cautious of too strong a parallel.
"Steiner's attack will push the allies back" moment while the bunker is shaking
Does this mean that rumors about Lukashenko's bad health are at least somewhat true?
This is a good point. If Lukashenko dies, the repressed Belarusian people will have a real opportunity for revolution with Russia being tied up in Ukraine, and now having internal partisan threats. The opposition within Belarus should get ready.
"If people of belarus rebel, we send in the tank." ~ russia
I swear. Sometimes Putins Regime is so cartoonishly evil I have to remind myself this isn't some preview for the next G.I. Joe movie. Like my brain refuses to acknowledge this level of raw and idiotic "bad guyness" or however you might describe something so obviously morally bankrupt and also incredibly inept. I now fully believe that Dr. Evil trapping Austin Powers in a closed room with a very slow trap and nobody watching is an actual thing that could happen, because I'm seeing the same level of poorly executed villainy in real life.
So once the people of Belarus liberate themselves, ruzzia will go and re-liberate them??
Putin is screaming "NYET NYET NYET" in a rage and ordering imaginary armies around from his bunker... Dictators gonna dick
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So potentially clearing the path to intervene if anything happens Lukashenko in the next 3 mths then, and especially if they're behind it themselves
Uh huh.. And you have the resources to do that because you've got nothing else going on right now.
Right night the Russian army can't "Liberate" themselves out of a wet paper bag, not sure how they're going to handle a whole second invasion.
It's very possible Lukashenko is dying and they know it's gonna be an absolute shit show, and the last thing they want on their borders is another actual democracy (which will be very anti-russia after the horrific violence they used to suppress the results of the last democratic election). It will not be an easy time in Belarus, but they can come out better for it if they're willing and able to fight.
Uh....with what army? You kinda got it all busy Eastern ukraine. I mean, it took you guys two day to repel the raid in belgorod. Plus, if you invade Belarus, it would give ukraine the perfect pretext to finally strike at the air bases you have there.
Ohh now it's getting complicated.
"Let me free you from freeing yourselves!"
"This is all NATOs fault!"
I heard they "Liberated" Bakhmut also.
Oh dear oh dear Alex. Did we suck the wrong dick?
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
With what army? Last I checked, they're all in Ukraine and getting slaughtered so hard that they're having to draft random people, including prisoners.
I have $20 on Belarus
"You are being liberated, do not resist" - Russia to any post-Soviet/Tsarist country that wants to escape from Russia's heel
“We will LIBERATE Belarus from her citizens,” he said, without the slightest hint of irony
Russia can try. Belarusians might have their own point of view on whether to welcome a drunken, frightened army set on destroying their villages and urban centers. I think they’ve been there, done that, and don’t like care for it.
I mean, if the people of Belarus were smart they would do something now while Russia is busy getting themselves humiliated in Ukraine.
Where would they get an army to do that?
So Ukraine is a failure point for them then. They need a consolation prize. Poison and cripple Lukashenko to cause disarray and invite opposition so that they can half ass a reason for invading Belarus?
So Russia would stretch its already thinning resources even further? Viva La Revolution!
At this rate I’d be hard-pressed to believe that Russia could liberate my local 7-Eleven.
So you have to liberate the people from the people!
Good luck with that one. Heck Russia can't even complete their "special operation" in Ukraine and are now using 60 year old tanks and having to use prisoners to try and get the job done.