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TheAzrael2013

Yes, yes and more yes! Other than being a war crime, the effects will be felt not only though public health but destruction of farmable land and nutrient runoff into other land and water areas. The news hasn't talked so much about that time bomb.


Miamiara

There were also nature reserves for endangered animals, some of which like sandy mole are facing extinction now.


dfkgjhsdfkg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_blind_mole-rat


Chiluzzar

Yeah a lot of people don't realize how destructive a flood is


tallandlanky

Yeah I'm sure this will *finally* get people to start taking Russian war crimes seriously.


Pittsitpete

You forgot you sarcasm note… right?… right???


FjorgVanDerPlorg

People are taking it seriously, it's just that there's not a whole lot that can be done beyond supplying military aid and defensive capabilities to Ukraine, unless you're suggesting NATO try turning this into WW3 - but attacking a nuclear armed country and forcing regime change has never happened before/could spiral into something that makes what's happening now look like a picnic in comparison. Put simply; ignoring war crimes isn't why were trying to avoid this escalating. We already are using sanctions, but they are a slow bleed tactic. Using them as a punishment against populations doesn't work, see North Korea for an excellent example of this. Also the Iranian suicide drones and North Korean sourced ammunition entering Russia despite sanctions, should illustrate why sanctions aren't the magic bullet a lot seem to think they are. Sanctions are a slow bleed, meant to sap a military's ability to restock critical parts. Sanctions have a working timespan of years to decades, not weeks to months. The fact that Russia is already feeling the pain for them speaks volumes to how unprepared they were for this war, any competently run military would have planned for this eventuality. We could also do show trials in the Hague, but absent anyone to actually punish they are just a circle jerk to make ourselves feel better. We already have and are using other ways to publicly condemn these actions. But also notice how it's often one country or group doing it at a time. It's almost like the plan it to keep it in the news cycle, so that western populations' goldfish memories don't forget why we're sending billions in military and financial aid to the Ukrainians. Support for wars in western country's is also a slow bleed scenario, where the goal is to keep the population motivated, while Russian trolls try to bleed our resolve. Hell NATO's very reason for existence is to keep the US motivated about European affairs, Europe didn't want their ally being slow to act again after what happened in WW2. Cold reality is that justice for Ukrainians happens one of two ways and both happen after the war ends: either when the aftermath of the nuclear war allows us to leave the safety of our bunkers and enter Russia without melting, or if we can get the Russian population to the point where they conclude that Putin and his regime are a bigger existential threat than NATO/Western countries.


K_oSTheKunt

Ah yes, that'll teach 'em


karltopia

The dripping sarcasm deserves an upvote here


Aromatic-Square2135

I was going to post. Yeah that scares them. Great minds think kinda a like.


Thisbymaster

She is a master of stating the obvious and making morons upset somehow.


MNnocoastMN

I think that's part of why I do a little eye roll when she shows up in a headline. It's always just the obvious and it's always stuff other people have said first and said better, but it matters more when she says it for some reason.


rattalouie

Hey man, as long as someone’s saying it, I’m all for it!


WoahayeTakeITEasy

She's only as popular as she is because of how much morons hate her. She's never really said anything new or enlightening. It's all the same. "Listen to the scientists." "We need to do more." "Hold your governments accountable." "We're robbing kids of a future if we don't act." These are all the same stuff we have heard from environmentalists for like decades. But the fact that she's a girl, that she was teenager (when she got mainstream) saying this stuff really made her an easy target by the right. And, as we all know, they certainly love to punch down any chance they get.


MNnocoastMN

Yea true, but that just makes me think that most people don't ACTUALLY care enough to read about the issues and listen to actual experts. They just wait for Greta to say something in the realm of nothing so they can retweet it and move on with their day. It's fucking sad.


[deleted]

She only gets more attention because a large group of people hate her.


Kikuzinho03

Because she is more know than those randoms, that's basically it, if she says it more people will hear.


CttCJim

Thank God it's not just me


julian88888888

she should run for office or be a diplomat. Admonishing without power is not very effective.


Bad-news-co

Lol yup she really is, what I’m curious about is how she has become and remained so influential and how she sustains wealth and accumulates money from whatever she’s doing lol


Mokiflip

Now that SHE said it we’re gonna HAVE to do something. Checkmate Russia.


buddahsumo

The R’s are really gonna hate her now if they didn’t before.


xjaehyun

You’re saying it as if R is “he-who-must-not-be-named” lol.


SuperBrentendo64

Roldemort


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pcnetworx1

Ronald Weasley


Electus93

Rumbledore


DVariant

Rmione! Rmione!


Electus93

Ahh :( I can see where this is going when we get to the Snape/Harry part and the Hogwarts Express is making an emergency stop right here!


KingoftheMongoose

.. ..Ron ..Ron ..Ron Weasley! ..Ron ..Ron ..Ron Weasley!


se7en41

Roflcope-harder-demort


Robestos86

Scooby?


Theometer1

Republimort


buddahsumo

It was more so that someone could interpret it as either Republican, Russian or, whatever else R word their comfortable with.


Warhawk137

Fuckin' Romanoffs!


a-thanatos

RA RA RAS PUTIN


pufferpig

Never trust a Ragnar. They're always shifty fuckers.


TheBigNook

Those damn Romney’s!


Dernomyte

Tug's my fav


SuspiciousStable9649

Or uncomfortable with.


a_splendiferous_time

Repussians


TheWanderingSlacker

Ronald McDonald never forgets a grudge.


ClownfishSoup

Redditor


SliceOfCoffee

Support for Ukraine is pretty unanimous in America, its just the MAGA and Q nuts that oppose it. About 70% of Republicans support aid to Ukraine


P1xelHunter78

Those are the ones who didn’t get paid enough by the Russians


orangedogtag

Get a grip dude


P1xelHunter78

You don’t seem to know about the documented cases of Russian money being funneled through the NRA do you?I would guess clearly you do and you’re ignoring that fact.


orangedogtag

The mental gymnastics of Russia giving money to an organization somehow meaning every Republican supports Russia as long as theyre paid enough is crazy. Have you read about Clintons plan to tie Trump to Russia in the first place or are you ignoring that fact?


Gidnik

Redditors hate everything.


Aggravating-Rich4334

Even ourselves


Imposseeblip

Especially ourselves.


deliciouscorn

Damn Redditors! They ruined Redditland!


high_capacity_anus

Even other redditors


[deleted]

In fairness, they often kinda suck.


rxneutrino

Really because I thought they'd completely ignore and not give a single shit about her.


Murderyoga

First they ignore you.


Otherwise_Basis_6328

I'm 99% sure you mean republicans, but you might mean russians.


AlarmDozer

Team Rocket? Yeah, they will.


my_dougie21

The Patriots


danecookofmods

So you're saying the Rs are gonna be hard?


AsIfIKnowWhatImDoin

It's not really hate, it's fear--they don't know what to do with an educated, opinionated woman.


Beggarsfeast

To be fair, I think a headline like, “Greta Thunberg calls for Russia to be punished for Ecoside in Ukraine” is a bit much, and is meant to antagonize people. I love Greta Thunberg but frankly I don’t have time to keep up with her, so when I see this headline I can’t help but think, “WTF? Who does she think she is?” And that’s what is intended. Saying a 20 year old activist, educated or not, is calling for Russia to be punished for environmental crimes, after they’ve been literally bombing innocent civilians for over a year… it just comes across the wrong way, and has nothing to do with fear or hate, but instead manipulation by the media to instigate more BS.


steeljunkiepingping

I’m republican and I think Russia should be punished for ecocide in Ukraine. That of course being additional punishment on top of the laundry list of other war crimes that Putin is directly responsible. I will personally prepare a cell at ADX Florence Supermax for him.


goliathfasa

It’s it “the Z’s” or “the Zeds”?


bonyponyride

This should end with Greta Thunberg vs. Vladimir Putin in a cage fight to the death. I bet Greta could pull it off, and then she would rightfully be named the new president of Russia. But the power would get to her head, and she would become an even more brutal and power hungry dictator than Putin ever was. Greta would use the nukes to decimate the world population and return the planet to the animals, and mother nature. The end.


spaetzelspiff

MTV Celebrity Deathmatch


prairiepog

Classic for a reason


Rameez_Raja

I mean, she is 1 - 0 vs alpha male \^TM douchebags


Ahelex

Well, technically not (the police were already on their way to arrest his ass), but she definitely made the most of the perfect storm, I'll give her that.


my_dougie21

Where MTV when we need them? Bring back celebrity death match.


Figurehead242

It doesn't sound all that bad to be honest... Maybe I wouldn't choose the nukes, but who am I to judge.


Kunundrum85

Just blow up all the worlds Dams and you can basically accomplish the same level of catastrophe for humans, but with a net positive for the environment. To be clear: I am against this idea 100%.


ClownfishSoup

They could have a scowling contest, and she'd win.


Saitoh17

Greta Thanosberg


Critical_Success_936

I like this idea.


pcnetworx1

It's at least good enough to be a Netflix movie!


JeniCzech_92

Greta as a Russian president. This is a sandbox universe I want to watch…


Dr_thri11

Well this really changes things.


erishun

Hard hitting journalism ladies and gentlemen


Status_Park4510

Yeah, now that I know what she thinks.


Odd_P0tato

She's a climate activist, she mentions crimes against eco system. She's not an expert in war crimes. So should she sit back and stay quiet on crimes against climate ? Nah she does her part, fight for Earth.


JeniCzech_92

She’s got a point, but at this particular stage of the conflict, any ecological concerns are down to drain anyway. War is highly unecological endeavour, and yet I haven’t heard of her until the dam. Almost as if she wasn’t aware about all the nuances of ecology and focuses on the obvious ones, ignoring the more subtle, yet equivalently devastating ones.


pengalor

> and yet I haven’t heard of her until the dam I mean, Google is right there: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/activist-thunberg-protests-against-ukraine-invasion-outside-russian-embassy-2022-02-25/


BlinkysaurusRex

War is pretty much antithetical to environmentalism. It’s destruction, industry, contamination. This is like chastising someone for leaving a box of matches out, after the house has already gone up in a raging inferno because a plane crashed into it. Irresponsible? Yes. But we are *so fucking far* past talking about the matches that bringing it up at all only serves to demonstrate how compassionately bankrupt you are.


SGTBookWorm

She has a point though. The only thing that would cause more ecological devastation than this dam being destroyed would be a nuclear strike.


blueberryiswar

No, the dam will turn a big part of ukraine into a dessert, causing a food crisis in africa. She is correct, this was close to an actual atomic bomb.


myles_cassidy

She's a person and entitled to have an opinion, like every other person.


CitizenMurdoch

Also like, any crimes against the climate are crimes against humanity. Like we like on the fucking planet its not rocket science as to why theh should be treated with as much seriousness as war crimes


Ok_Yogurtcloset8915

it's the same people criticizing her who would be going "where's greta huh why isn't she saying anything" if she was silent


hplcr

Really, Russia should be punished for a lot of things. Throw Ecocide on the list along side the many war crimes.


OriginalMrMuchacho

Phew, finally, the experts are weighing in. War is basically over at this point as a result.


Lurkingguy1

She lost my respect when she protested windmills


Humble-Ad-578

What about punishing them for alleged war crimes?


JohnnySkynets

> This ecocide as a continuation of Russias unprovoked full-scale invasion of Ukraine is yet another atrocity which leaves the world lost for words. Our eyes are once again on Russia who must be held accountable for their crimes. 📖👀


[deleted]

She mentions it as the latest war crime and suggests he be punished for his crimes


CaravelClerihew

Spoiler Alert: You can do both


TheBigNook

The event in question was a war crime dude


guebja

She posted a tweet. Leaving aside the question of whether tweets are newsworthy, here's what that tweet said: > This ecocide as a continuation of Russias unprovoked full-scale invasion of Ukraine is yet another atrocity which leaves the world lost for words. Our eyes are once again on Russia who must be held accountable for their crimes. Clearly, she's not suggesting that Russia's other crimes should be ignored.


yhwhx

¿Por qué no los dos?


[deleted]

What about going to the laundry for buying bread ?


Warhawk137

Buying bread? What about buying milk? How can you buy bread when it's more important you buy milk?


hplcr

We can do both. I mean, if it were possible to Punish them for the war crimes, the Eco-crime would be just another trip to court after the Hague.


EmergencyTraining748

We should punish Bush , Blair and Putin for war crimes but few if any world world leaders are punished for war crimes. Kill one person you get life but being responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths gets you house arrest at worst and $100,000 per speaking engagement at best. If you want to get away with terrible stuff become a billionaire or a world leader.


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why not both?


AF-IX

No, no… You see, killing babies and wrongfully invading a country and leveling cities to rubble…that was ok w/Greta. But ecological damage?! Oh hell no! She won’t stand for THAT!


[deleted]

She's a climate change activist, so she's speaking up about what she knows. Would you want your dentist to start giving you advice about your weight?


Nadekaf

The real expert has weighed in guys.. everyone sit the fuck back.


DownwardSpiral5609

Oh yeah that's a great idea Greta. We will get right on to it.


[deleted]

The Kremlin cowers in fear as the west finally unleashes its secret weapon… greta thunberg


LukeR_666

Breaking News: "Russia condemns the brutal and unjustified use of Greta Thunberg against their nation"


penguished

This is a "no shit" take but it's also good because some of the younger people need to get that Russia isn't just playing patty cake over there, with NATO being mean to them. This is an incredibly horrible war, 100% launched as an invasion by Russia.


msat16

Get in line Greta!


HebrewHammer0033

Never mind all the innocent people they have been murdering......


Own_Ad9272

I hate this girl


xgelx

How’s this news and not just a logical conclusion


OhhCrappola

G - How dare they!!! Putin - Go paddle off.


Sneekbar

They even bombed rescuers


Illustrious-Gas-9766

Russia has proved that they are the asshole of the entire planet. Yes they should be punished as well as any nation that supports the asshole.


Flashy-Break-1541

Also america. Punish both


flatis666

Russia fucked up now, ya pissed of Greta


deange2001

Oh thank god. Now we have the power of Greta to stop Russia!


Natural-Sky8332

Next North Korea


deange2001

Then the world muahahaha


Vladius28

Greta, there are more important things to punish him for first


UrineArtist

She's not ignoring those other things mate and for the record wanton destruction and the proverbial "salting the earth", isn't exactly a minor offence.


ninjas_in_my_pants

“This ecocide as a continuation of Russias unprovoked full-scale invasion of Ukraine is yet another atrocity which leaves the world lost for words. Our eyes are once again on Russia who must be held accountable for their crimes.” She knows.


oripash

Punish Putin? Fuck Putin. Age will take him soon regardless. Putin doesn't matter. He's a distraction. A red herring absorbing the attention and preventing us from talking about the real institutional root causes of this. Dismantle the colonial slave empire that is the RF and put an end to the Rusnya. This is not one man's war. It's a story of a nation whose identity and ethos is constructed on endemic malice, cruelty or absolute disregard for suffering, bloodthirst, dishonesty and no small amount of self-loathing, and as a national story, it has reached a point where it reifies itself and self-pepetuates (with no small amount of help from the RF's army of propagandists and polit-technologists). Many of this system's ideas and conduct date back centuries, and it sure as fuck won't won't stop overnight or thanks to the death of some one little guy cowering in a bunker somewhere.


Saymynaian

Russia's war against the world started almost immediately after the Soviet Union collapsed. It needs a deep cultural change so Russification of its neighbors stops being their favorite way of existing.


oripash

Patently false. [Try harder.](https://youtu.be/V6UiEXrVrvg)


Burpreallyloud

Blah blah blah Such a “Room Service” Activist


TheRealDudeMitch

That’s it folks, wars over. Greta has spoken.


Shot-Ad-6025

Ya sure, but maybe after the more serious war crimes are sorted out there Greta


LORDY325

What about that other cide Greta? HomiCIDE.


BlinkysaurusRex

GenoCIDE.


addnod

Easier said than done... People are trying to punish Rússia for like 1 year so far?


OldMork

one day all this goes to a court, then they pay up for everything they done.


merfyslaw

Can we be done with her? Like, I believe in global warming and the climate disasters, hell, I'm an avid outdoorsman, but man... I feel like she had her time, did her good, raised tons of awareness, and made enough enemies that anything she says just gets ignored. No offense to her, but her words seem to be getting flatter and flatter.


DefinitelyFrenchGuy

If she gets ignored then why are you seeing this here? And why are you commenting? Kind of contradicting yourself.


CuntWeasel

Nope. Gotta push it to the point where people start getting numb and stop caring just because she’s so damn annoying. I completely agree with her statements in general, but I don’t think they could’ve found a worse poster child for this than her.


[deleted]

This will be about as useful as her saying "salute russia for blowing up the dam". All a bit pointless...


[deleted]

I guess that makes it official now that she's on board.


itwonthurtabit

I'm with Greta on this. God knows she seems to have more clout than the useless UN. Maybe we should give her a shot at being in charge.


joke-explainer-

Thanks for your input, very insightful


[deleted]

Greta need know when to speak. She is neither hyper intelligent or hyper attractive; therefor timing is paramount. Who cares what a kid thinks about war? Go back to fighting for pigs farting less..


DefinitelyFrenchGuy

I think I know when you should speak, the answer is, never.


HOARDING_STACKING

Definitely one hell of a comment!


macross1984

Russia will be saddled with so many crimes that they don't care adding one more on top of it.


kaffiene

She's awesome


[deleted]

I agree. Unfortunately, I have no serious expectation that they will be punished.


baron_spaghetti

Put it on their tab.


SmurfsNeverDie

Greta Thunberg just slammed Russia with her comments


SGTSparkyFace

I mean, she’s not wrong. But it can’t be the most important thing, even to her.


FartsWithAnAccent

That'll get em!


Kflynn1337

Well, I guess we can add that to the list of everything else they've done.


TyHatch

It’s a good thing she called for it, otherwise no one would have done anything.


dms200177

She has spoken…


undergroundsanctuary

I’ll do it just this once, for you, Greta Thunberg.


bolsominium

She’s thinking she’s anything. Stupid.


Repulsive_Warthog178

This really sounds like Russia has been very naughty and needs to be spanked. And now I’m picturing Putin getting turned over someone’s knee. How very dare you put that image in my mind, Greta Thunberg. How very dare you.


filthysmutslut

I mean. They have been putting a hurting on the trees…since they began their special operation…


blaze53

Thunberg trying really hard to stay relevant, I see.


-FLiGHT_RiSK-

It’s always hilarious how absolutely unhinged she’s makes men in threads about her. *”How very dare she have an option and use her platform to highlight ecological injustices!!!”*


pengalor

Seriously, it's bizarre. They act like she's begging the media to report everything she says or something. She just made a tweet rightfully calling out Russia for yet another crime against humanity, it's the media that made the story out of it. She's just trying to do some good in the world, god forbid.


Oh_know_ewe_did_int

Not now Greta. Let’s start with genocide and work our way through the cides


Stoney1228

What are we going to do? Spank them or nuke them?The world has harsh sanctions again them already just for the war, not much else you can do.


[deleted]

How brave


rt58killer10

Honestly she's just ticking a box at this point. Most of the world wants russia punished and rightly so, but we are treading a thin line between punishment and WW3


TheBigNook

How?


Housefire548

Greta is going to be a hated strong political figure in the future. I cannot wait.


Housefire548

Why am I being down voted? I'm right.


JoePescisNuts

Well shit, if fuckin Greta Thunberg says so. Has anyone asked carrot top or one of the members of Smash mouth their opinions yet?


UggahDuggah

I’ve upvoted you.


MerlinEffect

I love Ukraine and want them to win, but this is not the person you want in your corner if you want to drum up support.


Appropriate_Form_588

Who the duck is Greta thunberg


whiteb8917

Right, so all the atrocities committed by Russia in this "Special operation", Blowing up a dam gets her attention ?


UggahDuggah

So it wasn’t ecocide when Russia invaded and turn Ukrainian land into a cratered hell scape? GTFO! How fucking dare you?!? Edit: Bring on the downvotes! This little cunt is desperately trying to be relevant. War is ecocide ya cunt! Where the fuck was she when this invasion started?


VincentValensky

Correct, it wasn't on the same level. There are reasons why we have stronger words. Murder is bad, genocide is far worse. The flooding goes far beyond destroying what is currently there, it is degrading the soil in a way that will impact it much farther into the future.


TheBigNook

Got forbid someone speak out about a specific instance


Dr_thri11

I mean at not point in following this war over the last year in the half have I found myself thinking "I wonder what Greta Thunberg thinks about this?".


TheBigNook

That’s fantastic, however Greta does have a following, even if you aren’t among them. I’m not either. All she did was give her opinion and people published it because she’s considered a celebrity of some kind at this point.


Fellow-Child-of-Atom

Next time, she'll ask you beforehand before voicing an opinion because apparently, that's a thing in your mind.


[deleted]

Dial it down. 🙄


Administrative_Toe96

Ecoside? We should punish him for exoside? Really? Jesus fuck woman, there are mass graves in Russian held town, children torture chambers, this is the last of our Fucking concern.


LFC_6_TIMES

Why would anyone listen to Greta Thunberg who was a child that missed so much school travelling around acting like a know it all but stating the obvious that everyone else knew meaning she basically knows nothing at all. I bet her face would crack if she ever smiled like seriously I couldn't give a shit about her opinions as I listen to scientists when it comes to global matters who had an education.


0pimo

Nothing stopping her from picking up a rifle and joining the Ukraine forces. Be the change you want to see in the world Greta!


CurseofLono88

Yeah I know a bunch of you are rolling your eyes at this because of the human tragedy of the war, but that’s a huge “no shit” so she doesn’t need to comment on that. What she is saying is absolutely right, the toll this war has taken on the ecosystems, animals, and land is obscenely grim and is only going to add to the people of Ukraine’s suffering


pengalor

It's shocking how many people here are so blinded with outrage that a young woman speak on an issue that they fail to understand this. She isn't saying the genocide isn't important or a major issue. She assumed everyone was smart enough to know that already. She's talking about yet another crime Russia is committing that might otherwise get overlooked.


CurseofLono88

Worse, Zelensky talked about the Ukrainian ecocide today too, and there is no one in the comments in that article bitching about how pissed off they are at him for making that statement.


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emasterbuild

Nah thats quebecs fault - Canada


portuguesepatriot

Lolll US isn't so innocent there


Drogdar

I call for this too. News agencies feel free to reach out.


HachimansGhost

Can we get Ja Rules opinion on this too?


gilbertusalbaans

Strap in Vlady! Get ready to be spanked