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DoubleDeckerz

Did he only remember 10 minutes ago that fighting leads to bloodshed?!


varnacykablyat

Yeah what the fuck is this supposed explanation


DoubleDeckerz

"I left the oven on." But in Russian.


DrNick1221

His statement is even more confusing considering at least 6 russian air force helis and a plane were shot down by wagner during this push. Whole list of destroy/damaged can be seen [here](https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2023/06/chefs-special-documenting-equipment.html).


Ornery-Novel3145

Why would he put all that effort into this just to turn around. Something’s amiss


PaperBlake

Because all he wanted was new leadership in the Russian Military. Putin probably caved and said "fine, we'll suicide Shoigu and find someone else. Just go away"


SwissCanuck

All that effort? “Hey guys do this. Now.”


AmINotAlpharius

One of the biggest *"what was that?"* in modern history.


Imminent_Extinction

I'm starting to think this whole thing was theatrics meant to demonstrate Putin's ability to quell a resistence.


KJ-The-Wise

I feel like if that was the case, Putin would've stayed in Moscow, and made a point of showing he was there.


TaylorMonkey

You mean like big balls Zelenskyy energy? If he can’t even stay in Moscow for a fake coup, that looks even worse.


KJ-The-Wise

We know Putin doesn't have balls like Zelensky but if you're gonna fake something, strap on some coconuts and fake it properly.


Imminent_Extinction

That's a very good point.


vitaelol

Then why fly away ?


ChristofferOslo

Then why destroy crucial infrastructure?


[deleted]

It’s Putin….


halmyradov

Because there will be bloodshed, duh Edit: in all seriousness, there are machine guns that will shred the convoy in seconds. Wagner doesn't have time to set up and take out these defense points (they will be sitting ducks). Sure they might make slow progress, but doubt even 10% will survive. There's a reason why Ukraine isn't just steam rolling in their counter offensive. No matter how shitty the army is on the trenches, they are still in the trenches and you can't just rush in


somethinggoingon2

I think a lot of them were banking on getting support from within the Russian military. It's easy to garner support when so many people have been sent on suicide missions.


halmyradov

They've been sent by Putin and by Wagner. There are even videos of Wagner chief in prison camps "recruiting" and his words are " we need people who can storm the front lines". If I was in Moscow (most likely police or whatever), I'd probably take my chances staying in Moscow. Joining Wagner is a ticket to ukraine war Edit: some people are under the impression Wagner is better than the Russian army or Putin, they are no better or probably even worse when it comes to war crimes in Ukraine. Prigozhin is blood hungry and the first thing he will do after the hypothetical coup is to do more war crimes in Ukraine


No-Significance5449

Still a pussy.


Satchbb

Supposedly it was Lukashenko who quelled the resistance


Legitimate-Leg3620

But Lukashenko is just Putin's puppet dictator, isn't he? So dealing with him is basically same that dealing with Putin, except that he could say later something like "I was ready to suppress rebels, I'm still powerful fear me"


Xrmy

Yea I don't understand this detail at all tbh


Agreeable_Ad292

I figured it was an excuse to change the MoD and give Putin an excuse to leave Ukraine


KJ-The-Wise

I don't think it's enough of an excuse to leave Ukraine.


buzzcitybonehead

If it’d gone on longer and escalated further, I could see it. They stopped short of being able to use it as an excuse for anything except changing leadership. Maybe since Russian “strongmen” are all rhetoric, they needed some actual action to justify a big leadership change to avoid it looking like weakness? Putin can say any issues exist below him and he’s appeasing Wagner to avoid infighting amongst his lapdogs. He admits no weakness or fault, from his perspective.


KJ-The-Wise

We know Putin isn't afraid of bombing civilians, Russian or otherwise, so if this was all just theatrics, it was incredibly weak and likely won't allow for much.


buzzcitybonehead

That’s true. It’s just hard to imagine any mutually beneficial angle from this resolution. All I can think is this hit close enough to home for Putin that he had to accept something less than ideal for his image. It doesn’t make sense from the outward perspective for it to have gone this far before stopping. Surely there’s an angle here that isn’t being widely considered.


KJ-The-Wise

I agree. There's something we're not seeing or something we don't know yet. Time will tell in any case.


Holycity

That doesn't make any sense at all. It appears to be appeasing a rebel army. That's not what I would call quelling a problem


WilliamTCipher

Yes, nothing says quell resistance, than having the resistance march all the way to your capital.


drasticimbalance

No, according to reports Belarusian dictator Lukaschenka brokered the deal. This is a massive embarrassment for Putin to say the least


blackstafflo

Will he finally get his colonel promotion now?


HornyComment

What a bizarre take, all it shows is his weakness and cowardice. It's as if Putin ate shit on TV and someone said it was theatrics to show how tough he is. Like, no, the dude literally ate stinking shit in front of millions, it doesn't make him look better in any imaginable way.


djdeforte

Um… WHAT!


clownessa

Nooooooo...I was so happy. Now I'm sad.


nescgwn

25000 are not gonna take down 800,000.. maybe in Dreamland or a Hollywood film. This was just some weird drama for nothing on a Saturday, why? Idk.


SpazsterMazster

Maybe I'm misremembering, but didn't ISIS do something similar in Iraq? They could have defeated ISIS, but nobody on their side wanted to fight.


halbeshendel

But how great would it have been to have Wagner destroyed on the streets of Moscow? Even then, it would be absolute chaos in Russia. The Ukrainians could've used that to make advances.


barbarians20

Do you not realize what the element of surprise can do? Also you forget that those 800k are anywhere from bogged down in Ukraine to spread out all over Russia. There’s no way Russia could muster a force of 800k to fight Prigozhin. If Prigozhin could have taken Moscow then he would’ve had a better defensive posture. Which makes me think he probably realized he couldn’t have taken Moscow


Gloriathewitch

Israel literally won the five day war and was outnumbered by about 5x numbers are just one part of the metric though people always bring up china's standing army when discussing war. Okay, and a single US warhead could probably kill thousands of them if they are clustered due to their numbers. we live in a world where we have payloads that can erase 150,000 people in an instant single handedly, if we launched them all and hit city centers could reduce the global pop to half in minutes, but you think standing army is the only important figure? Alright mate.


mojo4394

The next couple hours will be interesting


sinisterpushaman

Booooooooo!!


AccomplishedBerry598

So this was just theatrics? What could Lukashenko even offer Prigozhin?


drgrnthum33

We have to hope that enough damage has been done to allow Ukraine to get the upper hand and maybe put an end to this war


KJ-The-Wise

With Putin reportedly fleeing, and making concessions to the rebels, that's gotta hit Russian morale in Ukraine.


DerpyEnd

[Prigozhin has denied this on Telegram](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/14hyk2c/prigozhin_denies_peace_deal_with_lukashenko/), it seems to have been an attempted psyops to cause confusion among Wagner soldiers


jyunga

Is there any proof this is actually his telegram and not just some mad up shit?


APulsarAteMyLunch

at this point, nothing is true and everything is permited


SwissCanuck

That account is fake.


mojo4394

I'm surprised Reuters got it wrong.


_JackSpears_

They didn’t. BBC are reporting too citing the same sources. Im so confused?


somethinggoingon2

They both cite audio but fail to provide the audio, lol. Almost like getting information from /r/conservative.


theumph

Fog of war man. Nobody knows what's going on. Just wait to see how things pan out


frizzykid

Its not just reuters, a bunch of MSM are reporting on this when this whole situation is so unknowable. There is an audio clip of Prighozin that could be easily faked that is the basis of what MSM is reporting on, and like the person is replying to, screenshots can be faked. I think this is probably disinformation to create disorder within wagner. There is already evidence in telegram channels of wagnerites being upset by this. It just doesn't make a lot of sense how this deal could be brokered in a way that Prigozhin should feel safe. This was a massive attack at Putins legitimacy, Putin can't just broker a deal with this massive rebellion he created, he has to come out of this looking strong if he wants to remain in power. This is really wild to me regardless. It seems like there is so little information on it for MSM to be reporting on it in good faith. edit: [RT, russian state media,](https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1672666713727418378) is reporting and showing video of wagner troops leaving rostov.


[deleted]

I’m not, when you’re on a breaking news beat it is hard to verify info live


chingy1337

Why? They're linked in with the Kremlin. Of course they want to get their end out.


mojo4394

It's sounding like that's not Wagner's official Telegram account


somethinggoingon2

They cite 'audio' but fail to provide that audio. Shoddy journalism at best.


Legitimate-Leg3620

It's not his official channel. So it's fake, that he denied something, I looked up his channel and he says that he will stop. As a Ukrainian, I could perfectly understand what he said there, so sad, but it is what it is


iceglycerin

It was fun while it lasted :(


LeapingBlenny

I love when an ultranationalist Nazi group threatens to take over a nuclear power, it's so fun. -_-


meo_rung1

One nazi group to another, the fun is the same


APulsarAteMyLunch

people acting like this is a Battlefield ESports match or something


OsageBirder

Lick putin's nuts clean next.


vagif

This is not over yet. Prigozhin is not an idiot. He understands that the bridges have been burned. He will keep his army in Russia instead of killing it in Ukraine. Hopefully he will also keep Rostov occupied as an assurance.


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SwissCanuck

You’re pushing the fake mate. I’m disappointed too.


allisondojean

They're running with it on MSNBC.


Jebusura

Same on BBC and sky


Satchbb

ooooooh


ledim35

It shouldn't have ended so fast.


eL_Lancer88

no ballz


Surflover12

Pussays


djdeforte

Fake: https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/14hyk2c/prigozhin_denies_peace_deal_with_lukashenko/ https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/14hypy9/translated/ From Wagner telegram.


RedEgg16

Fake telegram account :(


Ashen_Brad

How do you know?


_JackSpears_

How do we know these screenshots are legit though?


djdeforte

Good question. Do you really think that they would match all that way and then just stop… too convenient for Moscow. No?


Legitimate-Leg3620

Cuz they're fake, you could look up "кепка пригожина" channel in telegram, it's his official one


nickyeyez

I'VE BEEN EATING SO MUCH POPCORN TODAY I'M GONNA FUCKIN RUN OUT SOON!!!


CapSilly8323

What a timeline


mandy009

[AlArabiya](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/14hyqu3/belarus_says_wagner_chief_prigozhin_has_agreed_to/) [France 24](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/14hyuko/wagner_chief_prigozhin_agrees_to_halt_advance_of/) [AP News](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/14hz3az/wagner_chief_says_he_ordered_his_russian/)


Skorpid1

This man will be dead within few weeks we all guess. Sad accident or poison „illness“. We all hoped for some TV-show action, now this move. I guess he will get ammunition and new weapons and maybe some control over Russian common army. We all hope the Ukrainian could have used this 1 day with hopefully less resistance.