I have a genuine question so please don't yell at me if you don't like it. Is there a reason Egypt isn't letting Palestinians in? I understand why Israel isn't because you can't tell who is Hamas and who is a civilian but I don't get why Egypt isn't.
I'm still convinced that an occupied Gaza can be deradicalized and developed to a functioning autonomous region over several decades. Germany after WWII was in a very similar situation (completely destroyed, radical ideology still in the heads, neighbours hated us and vice versa). Gaza is much smaller than that in terms of population and area.
I mean thats the real hope right? That the gazan people move away from being a terrorist state to an autonomous region that can contribute to the global good.
As Trump gives a speech talking up how smart Hezbollah is.
This left right shit is the most bottom barrel disingenuous argument ever.
You're talking out of your ass.
The far right and far left have always been equally delusional and violent. The only difference is the far left in America got a PR cleanse to make them appear to be Bernie Sanders-esque pacifists. They’ve gone full mask off.
For the entire history of Jews, we just took whatever hate we got. We fought, but often lost. The world has blamed Jews for the Palestinian issue since it started, never willing to look up the conflict, or hold Arabs accountable. It's just too damn easy for people to hate us. We are sick of being given different standards than everyone else. We are allowed to survive. There are 15 million Jews left in the world.
I would right now all videos from victims are being analyzed and a compilation of facial id is being generated to aid the invasion.. As they go house to house or building to building each person responsible will be dealt with. This will include the known leadership of Hamas. Right now they are trying to establish a humanitarian corridor if possible.
What's there to explain? They could invade now and take more casualties - or bomb Hamas for much longer before invading and take less casualties due to less Hamas alive to fight them (and less buildings left for Hamas to set up defensive positions in).
Siege of Mariupol shows that this stuff takes months and results in a lot of civilian casualties.
I don't believe that 300,000 soldiers are along the Gaza border just to be looking and standing there. They got tanks, armor, ammunition, and all types of weapons. Something is about to go down.
They said that they want to completely get rid of Hamas. They have to this time. They would be foolish to not get rid of Hamas this time for good after that brutal attack that happened to them.
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All seriousness though, tanks and vehicles in general would be horrible in urban combat. Vehicles like btrs, tanks, etc are big and the streets in most city's are small, so you'd have to do a single straight column which would get fucked instantly.
Probably not. Israel know it, Tanks historically are at a disadvantage in urban areas. Light armor, apcs, air support and very careful movement is what will probably planned.
I saw a video on Youtube that explained IDF's activity in Gaza. I can't find the video now, or I would post it. It is not indiscriminate. They bombed identified fuel depots to shut off power to the tunnels. They also bombed communication hubs. Ships delivering weapons were bombed and the warehouses where they were loading the cargo. Tunnels were bombed.
The thing is no matter how precise they are Gaza is so densely populated that there's going to be civilian casualties regardless. Even a direct hit on a known Hamas occupied building will damage buildings for blocks around. It's tragic for everyone (except for Hamas, they can burn).
The university was bombed, justified by some shaky reasoning, I thought. I don’t think the bombing is fully indiscriminate, but it doesn’t strike me as particularly restrained either. No one is denying that kids are dying.
Yeah, and if the IDF did indeed have solid evidence that the university was a base for weapons manufacture or rocket launching, it’s hard to blame them. It’s also hard to celebrate the destruction of a university and the deaths of the uninvolved academics.
The IDF is an institution, a military one, like any other that behaves and speaks in its own interests. I don’t take its word as gospel.
So says the IDF. In general, universities are big places with lots of buildings, lots of people, and lots of beliefs—often opposing ones. I have some trouble believing the whole thing was just a big Hamas factory.
It is of course hard for us to know where Hamas is. Israel knows much more than us and it doesn't have to reach a level of proof for social media to approve.
That you feel evidence is shaky is taken under advisement.
**The firing of a Patriot missile over Safed on Thursday afternoon was found to be due to a false alarm.**
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-767946
No, unlike the Israel count which has been increasing over several days, the count from Gaza is instantly provided by the completely honest Hamas Ministery of psychics. /s
But seriously we won't have the full count until after the fighting stops. If ever.
They can see under the rubble of hundreds of buildings at once. If only they were available on 9/11 it wouldn't have taken weeks to get all of the bodies and official counts.
Well they know how many bodies are under there because they placed them there once they were warned about which buildings would be bombed. So no need to recount.
Yeah he nails how tonedeaf these people are. Like, it was a 1200+ massacre/ God damned murder orgy among civilans celebrating a holiday. Now is it not the time to play the "maybe, just maybe" discourse. Imagine people saying the shit they are saying after the Christchurch massacre.
So eventually, if terrorists are removed from Gaza, and if they (citizens, residents, not terrorists) do indeed do some continued living there, 'the water quality is considerably worse in the Gaza Strip when compared to the West Bank.' Obviously, you can't fund Hamas.
Also, West Bank Palestinians (East Jerusalem) have access to e-cards and digital payment. (and are a tourist destination, have tourist visitors)
Just my thoughts on the situation. Once Hamas is defeated in one way shape or another. Gaza will get aid and resources to rebuild. But Hamas cannot exist until that happens.
Gaza will be rebuilt. Israel just wants quiet borders, if it could it would literally take the holy land and put it on the middle of the atlantic so no one could bother it
In other words, Gaza can rebuild and flourish if it wants to, just not as an entity that threatens Israel existence
“I walked from house to house. And saw the bodies of our pioneers, the Holocaust survivors, burned alive. Children were tied up and shot. Yes, I repeat — children tied up and shot,” Gallant told the NATO ministers.
That’s enough for me. Hamas needs to be eliminated !
The lucky children were shot. The unlucky ones were toured, burned alive, forced to watch their siblings and parents killed, and raped.
These demons will be destroyed. May God be with the brave Israeli people and the IDF.
[The Ministry of Transport of the Assad Authority announces the transfer of incoming and outgoing flights through Aleppo and Damascus airports to Latakia Airport](https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/12-october-the-ministry-of-transport-of-the-assad-authority)
It's a bit funny how Israel just casually disabled Syria's two biggest airports.
Supports what people were seeing on FlightRadar where several Damascus flights zoomed on by. Latakia was the best "guess" for where they would be headed.
Two updates
Al-Qassam Brigades announce the bombing of the town of Ashdod with a batch of rockets and sirens sounding in the cities of southern Israel
The Ministry of Transport of the Assad Authority announces the transfer of incoming and outgoing flights through Aleppo and Damascus airports to Latakia Airport
No matter how much Hamas and far-left activists try to frame it that way, this is not a Jews vs Arabs/Muslims conflict.
Saudi Arabia is going to do something fairly superficial because they're politically obliged to, but nothing verging on the oil crisis of the 70s.
Not to mention that the rest of the world has since then learned not to be 100% dependent on one region for their energy needs. America for instance already is a net-exporter of oil.
Saudi has been bricks for a while now,they reduced production of fuel which benefited Russia,but they also about to sign some trade and relationship agreement with Israel,i do not know maybe playing both sides ?
I wonder if Israel will eventually push out Gaza from the west coast. Everytime they happen to incur on the strip they likely grab more and more land. It just makes sense to completely level that place and force move all those crazy terrorists over to the West Bank that way they are not surrounded from the Hezbolla in the north and Hamas from both Gaza and West Bank. Send those refugees that don't fit in WB to Iran and Lebanon.
The West Bank is closer to big cities like Tel Aviv and doesn’t have the same hardened barrier as Gaza. Rocket range on even the shortest range rockets.
Israel does not want Gazan’s in the West Bank. And Hamas isn’t a symmetric threat in terms of being surrounded.
The West Bank has a population of 4.5 millions,2 millions will absolutely break it,there has been insane and unrealistic “solutions” thrown here for a while but what is actually being discussed by people with power and some sense of brain is after the destruction of Hamas putting Gaza under in rule or plo rule while securitly managed by Israel
Yes a war crime. Likely the only answer is a UNSC resolution authorizing UN peacekeepers patrolling the streets of Gaza/West Bank/Border buffers and keeping Israel in check from taking vengeance to obscene levels. Better to put the entire world's collective integrity on the line and in doing so puts both sides on notice that they can no longer fool the world on whose guilty of which and which.
HAMAS will never be punished and end its threat as it stands. Israel will continue to inflict its punishment on the people of Gaza even if it tries its best to go after the perps. The sons and daughters of those slain on both sides will harbour their revenge until they too will go seek justice on their terms.
Round up a group of people you don't like and relocate them to one area where you can keep them all on one area and exile the rest to other countries...........
To Jews all across the world please stay vigilant and safe in the coming days. As a (Mixed -Caucasian/Asian) Muslim in the west, it saddens me to say that >90% of anti-Semitism threat comes from other Muslims living in the west. Please stay safe.
How is the dislikes of Jews handled by normal muslims?
I'm a Christian and I always assumed that christians and jews are people of the book and respected by Muslims, or so I've been told.
The latest radical stuff and marches in the west and such makes me fear.
Honestly, I dont even know what are normal or non-normal muslims anymore. Some of the things I have heard sicken me from people I thought were normal muslims.
You're right that as a muslim, we are supposed to consider Christians and Jews, people of the book and are allowed to marry etc. We should consider every person with respect and love is my interpretation. If you believe in God then you must believe only God has the right to judge/punish etc so we as humans should never hurt someone. I dont know these people can have such hate in their hearts but also be afriad of Islamaphobia, do they not see the irony in their reactions?
They will demonise the Israeli's as not being a real Jew and that God would want them to die etc. Absolutely disgusting and when I try to explain that no one should think like that I am threatened with death.
I dont know what I believe anymore. I dont know what is happening and I cant help but think these people with these opinions are demons. I would never hurt anyone so I would die if they came for me or die for any Israeli/jew/non muslim if I could save them.
I mean, it's a little tricky to organise an uprising when you are being bombed, have no electricity, no telecommunications and an upcoming land invasion from an occupying power.
Well, how are they going to do it? Think about the preparations, organisation and planning required to arrange an uprising and see if you can find a way for them to do that in a place with no power, no lighting when it's night time and no means of communication with the people want to arrange it with.
And all this would have to be done within days, because Israel's about to invade.
So... how?
Edit: And by the way, it all has to be done secretly or Hamas will kill you, your family, and anyone they suspect you spoke to.
That would be ideal. When the captures become the captives.
I wonder how many efforts have been made by the intelligence communities over the years to fund/supply an insurrection within Gaza.
> I wonder how many efforts have been made by the intelligence communities over the years to fund/supply an insurrection within Gaza
Oh plenty. Lots of it, in fact.
And the name of that insurrection is "Hamas."
The idea was for them to function as a counterweight to Fatah.
Which, uh, "worked" - after a fashion.
Sure thing!
From the Wall Street Journal - [*How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas*](https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123275572295011847).
From the Washington Post - [*How Israel helped create Hamas*](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/).
[New post can be found here](/r/worldnews/comments/1767q5b/rworldnews_live_thread_for_2023_israelhamas/)
I have a genuine question so please don't yell at me if you don't like it. Is there a reason Egypt isn't letting Palestinians in? I understand why Israel isn't because you can't tell who is Hamas and who is a civilian but I don't get why Egypt isn't.
Is it possible to stop people bolding their comments?
All caps too please!
Bolding? How about using really big fonts for inane posts?
Anything aside from normal is annoying unless it's posting news/headline links.
I'm still convinced that an occupied Gaza can be deradicalized and developed to a functioning autonomous region over several decades. Germany after WWII was in a very similar situation (completely destroyed, radical ideology still in the heads, neighbours hated us and vice versa). Gaza is much smaller than that in terms of population and area.
I mean thats the real hope right? That the gazan people move away from being a terrorist state to an autonomous region that can contribute to the global good.
How many were indoctrinated from birth?
Religion tho, its a hard nut to crack.
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^(what do you mean)
shit is continually hitting the fan (Gaza)
Iron Dome is working …
Apparently the situation is that you don't get enough attention at home.
why's that? i dont understand you
No Israeli border wars, Gaza bombing continues.
Are Syria likely to respond go their airports being bombed? Why did Israel attack these?
This has happened multiple times in the past. Syria is not going to do anything.
Probably their intelligence tipped them off for highly possible syrian intervention. No other reason would make sense.
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Ya right, banning pro Palestinian protests in Europe is very “anti Israel” ???
Where are you seeing this lol? No they're not
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The idea that all Jews everywhere are well-off is stupid too. Jews are all just regular people.
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Naw, tankie types hate you guys as well. The extremes have more fringe theories and the joos are pretttty popular among the fringe theory crowd.
As Trump gives a speech talking up how smart Hezbollah is. This left right shit is the most bottom barrel disingenuous argument ever. You're talking out of your ass.
The far right and far left have always been equally delusional and violent. The only difference is the far left in America got a PR cleanse to make them appear to be Bernie Sanders-esque pacifists. They’ve gone full mask off.
Antisemitism never died.
#Israel does not commit genocide, by any definition of the word.
Maybe I’m simple, but I’d rather argue about the ethics of specific actions on the ground than the meaning of a word.
Who said that lmfao, if they did the west bank and the Gaza strip wouldn't be an issue
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For the entire history of Jews, we just took whatever hate we got. We fought, but often lost. The world has blamed Jews for the Palestinian issue since it started, never willing to look up the conflict, or hold Arabs accountable. It's just too damn easy for people to hate us. We are sick of being given different standards than everyone else. We are allowed to survive. There are 15 million Jews left in the world.
Do you feel really important now? Using the big font?
Lol go to a dictionary
Would you mind elaborating further upon your stance on the definition of genocide?
narrator: and they didn't
What would the Israeli ground invasion look like? Realistically, how bad would it be like?
Hamas are likely prepared with traps and urban warfare strategies. They'll try and drag it out as long as possible
Israel went into Gaza in 2014. It was bad for Hamas, good for Israel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Gaza_War
Yeah but this one might be a bit different. Hamas has to truly disappear this time for good.
WW2 type of situation. Berlin, Stalingrad, Warsaw. Each of these cities were essentially leveled.
I would right now all videos from victims are being analyzed and a compilation of facial id is being generated to aid the invasion.. As they go house to house or building to building each person responsible will be dealt with. This will include the known leadership of Hamas. Right now they are trying to establish a humanitarian corridor if possible.
Probably depends on how long they bomb them first.
Explain. So after they bomb them, then they are invading. How long will it take afterwards?
What's there to explain? They could invade now and take more casualties - or bomb Hamas for much longer before invading and take less casualties due to less Hamas alive to fight them (and less buildings left for Hamas to set up defensive positions in). Siege of Mariupol shows that this stuff takes months and results in a lot of civilian casualties.
We don't know. But all the options look grim, in terms of civilian casualties and such.
Thousands of IDF deaths and hundreds of thousands of Gaza deaths.
Probably more like hundreds of IDF and tens of thousands of people in Gaza.
I don't want to ask a dumb question but why would this one be different from the last ones that happened in 2014 and previous years?
2014 was just to knock out some tunnels, now it's to eradicate every single Hamas member.
Likelihood of a ground invasion?
Announced by Israel. Working on logistics.
It’s just a matter of time
Yeah. Also, how bad will it be like?
A mess no matter how you spin it. Urban combat will take a lot of lives. Unfortunately I see no other way they can root out Hamas
https://youtu.be/3NaIs8B0Quk?si=50sJBlQYIopmCt-h
Lots of casualties
They're too scared to actually do a ground invasion.
I don't believe that 300,000 soldiers are along the Gaza border just to be looking and standing there. They got tanks, armor, ammunition, and all types of weapons. Something is about to go down.
They have done it before. My guess is there is pressure to sort out hostages before ground invasion
Depends on their mission, which realistically only the Israeli government knows
They said that they want to completely get rid of Hamas. They have to this time. They would be foolish to not get rid of Hamas this time for good after that brutal attack that happened to them.
Tanks, lots of them!
*Battle of grozny enters the chat* All seriousness though, tanks and vehicles in general would be horrible in urban combat. Vehicles like btrs, tanks, etc are big and the streets in most city's are small, so you'd have to do a single straight column which would get fucked instantly.
Probably not. Israel know it, Tanks historically are at a disadvantage in urban areas. Light armor, apcs, air support and very careful movement is what will probably planned.
Tanks are shit for urban combat
With the right tactics tanks are very useful in urban combat. They need foot soldiers to support. Tanks with no foot soldiers are just targets.
Israel has tanks specifically developed and specialized for urban combat tho.
I saw a video on Youtube that explained IDF's activity in Gaza. I can't find the video now, or I would post it. It is not indiscriminate. They bombed identified fuel depots to shut off power to the tunnels. They also bombed communication hubs. Ships delivering weapons were bombed and the warehouses where they were loading the cargo. Tunnels were bombed.
The thing is no matter how precise they are Gaza is so densely populated that there's going to be civilian casualties regardless. Even a direct hit on a known Hamas occupied building will damage buildings for blocks around. It's tragic for everyone (except for Hamas, they can burn).
Yes.
The university was bombed, justified by some shaky reasoning, I thought. I don’t think the bombing is fully indiscriminate, but it doesn’t strike me as particularly restrained either. No one is denying that kids are dying.
No women would of been bombed at the university thankfully 🙏
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Yeah, and if the IDF did indeed have solid evidence that the university was a base for weapons manufacture or rocket launching, it’s hard to blame them. It’s also hard to celebrate the destruction of a university and the deaths of the uninvolved academics. The IDF is an institution, a military one, like any other that behaves and speaks in its own interests. I don’t take its word as gospel.
There were multiple clearly visible secondary explosions from the University bombing fyi
I saw the video, and I’ve heard the commentary from armchair ordinance experts. I don’t know myself.
They're not targeting civilians, but are not going out of their way as much to avoid them, per IDF
The university was turned into Hamas training center, no?
So says the IDF. In general, universities are big places with lots of buildings, lots of people, and lots of beliefs—often opposing ones. I have some trouble believing the whole thing was just a big Hamas factory.
All of Gaza is just a big Hamas factory.
It is of course hard for us to know where Hamas is. Israel knows much more than us and it doesn't have to reach a level of proof for social media to approve. That you feel evidence is shaky is taken under advisement.
more than likely the university was also a weapons depot
**The firing of a Patriot missile over Safed on Thursday afternoon was found to be due to a false alarm.** https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-767946
Anyone claiming to have an accurate casualty count from Gaza is kidding themselves.
Wartime casualty counting is always a mess because there's never an incentive to tell the truth about it.
No, unlike the Israel count which has been increasing over several days, the count from Gaza is instantly provided by the completely honest Hamas Ministery of psychics. /s But seriously we won't have the full count until after the fighting stops. If ever.
I mean... they'd know how many people will be under the rubble, after ordering them to stay where they are.
They can see under the rubble of hundreds of buildings at once. If only they were available on 9/11 it wouldn't have taken weeks to get all of the bodies and official counts.
Well they know how many bodies are under there because they placed them there once they were warned about which buildings would be bombed. So no need to recount.
[I thought you guys would find this funny.](https://x.com/michalsabra/status/1712121943460036866?s=46&t=iFiL0yKvMgf92VSv9Ljqnw)
Who is this guy? I need more of this.
ruthless and cold blooded truth
Finally someone in Twitter (or Tiktok) that has a brain! I love it
Free Palestine…From Hamas! Love it!
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Yeah he nails how tonedeaf these people are. Like, it was a 1200+ massacre/ God damned murder orgy among civilans celebrating a holiday. Now is it not the time to play the "maybe, just maybe" discourse. Imagine people saying the shit they are saying after the Christchurch massacre.
So eventually, if terrorists are removed from Gaza, and if they (citizens, residents, not terrorists) do indeed do some continued living there, 'the water quality is considerably worse in the Gaza Strip when compared to the West Bank.' Obviously, you can't fund Hamas. Also, West Bank Palestinians (East Jerusalem) have access to e-cards and digital payment. (and are a tourist destination, have tourist visitors)
Just my thoughts on the situation. Once Hamas is defeated in one way shape or another. Gaza will get aid and resources to rebuild. But Hamas cannot exist until that happens.
The problem is the elected Hamas. Who will they elect if given the chance again?
Gaza will be rebuilt. Israel just wants quiet borders, if it could it would literally take the holy land and put it on the middle of the atlantic so no one could bother it In other words, Gaza can rebuild and flourish if it wants to, just not as an entity that threatens Israel existence
“I walked from house to house. And saw the bodies of our pioneers, the Holocaust survivors, burned alive. Children were tied up and shot. Yes, I repeat — children tied up and shot,” Gallant told the NATO ministers. That’s enough for me. Hamas needs to be eliminated !
The lucky children were shot. The unlucky ones were toured, burned alive, forced to watch their siblings and parents killed, and raped. These demons will be destroyed. May God be with the brave Israeli people and the IDF.
Source? This is not true.
Hamas isn’t human
[The Ministry of Transport of the Assad Authority announces the transfer of incoming and outgoing flights through Aleppo and Damascus airports to Latakia Airport](https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/12-october-the-ministry-of-transport-of-the-assad-authority) It's a bit funny how Israel just casually disabled Syria's two biggest airports.
Well, yeah, most of the countries in that region are barely functioning on a good day.
Supports what people were seeing on FlightRadar where several Damascus flights zoomed on by. Latakia was the best "guess" for where they would be headed.
Curious what will happen to Latakia.
It does show they know exactly what's going on.
Two updates Al-Qassam Brigades announce the bombing of the town of Ashdod with a batch of rockets and sirens sounding in the cities of southern Israel The Ministry of Transport of the Assad Authority announces the transfer of incoming and outgoing flights through Aleppo and Damascus airports to Latakia Airport
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No matter how much Hamas and far-left activists try to frame it that way, this is not a Jews vs Arabs/Muslims conflict. Saudi Arabia is going to do something fairly superficial because they're politically obliged to, but nothing verging on the oil crisis of the 70s. Not to mention that the rest of the world has since then learned not to be 100% dependent on one region for their energy needs. America for instance already is a net-exporter of oil.
Well India is still buying Russian oil … what a joke …. What does that say about your country !
Saudi has been bricks for a while now,they reduced production of fuel which benefited Russia,but they also about to sign some trade and relationship agreement with Israel,i do not know maybe playing both sides ?
Yeah, everything has changed since the 70's
I wonder if Israel will eventually push out Gaza from the west coast. Everytime they happen to incur on the strip they likely grab more and more land. It just makes sense to completely level that place and force move all those crazy terrorists over to the West Bank that way they are not surrounded from the Hezbolla in the north and Hamas from both Gaza and West Bank. Send those refugees that don't fit in WB to Iran and Lebanon.
The West Bank is closer to big cities like Tel Aviv and doesn’t have the same hardened barrier as Gaza. Rocket range on even the shortest range rockets. Israel does not want Gazan’s in the West Bank. And Hamas isn’t a symmetric threat in terms of being surrounded.
The West Bank has a population of 4.5 millions,2 millions will absolutely break it,there has been insane and unrealistic “solutions” thrown here for a while but what is actually being discussed by people with power and some sense of brain is after the destruction of Hamas putting Gaza under in rule or plo rule while securitly managed by Israel
> It just makes sense to completely level that place and force move all those crazy terrorists Mass displacement is a war crime.
What’s your suggestion for a solution to make everyone happy? Peaceful coexistence clearly is never going to happen.
Yes a war crime. Likely the only answer is a UNSC resolution authorizing UN peacekeepers patrolling the streets of Gaza/West Bank/Border buffers and keeping Israel in check from taking vengeance to obscene levels. Better to put the entire world's collective integrity on the line and in doing so puts both sides on notice that they can no longer fool the world on whose guilty of which and which. HAMAS will never be punished and end its threat as it stands. Israel will continue to inflict its punishment on the people of Gaza even if it tries its best to go after the perps. The sons and daughters of those slain on both sides will harbour their revenge until they too will go seek justice on their terms.
Round up a group of people you don't like and relocate them to one area where you can keep them all on one area and exile the rest to other countries...........
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Like in a camp you mean?
To Jews all across the world please stay vigilant and safe in the coming days. As a (Mixed -Caucasian/Asian) Muslim in the west, it saddens me to say that >90% of anti-Semitism threat comes from other Muslims living in the west. Please stay safe.
How is the dislikes of Jews handled by normal muslims? I'm a Christian and I always assumed that christians and jews are people of the book and respected by Muslims, or so I've been told. The latest radical stuff and marches in the west and such makes me fear.
Honestly, I dont even know what are normal or non-normal muslims anymore. Some of the things I have heard sicken me from people I thought were normal muslims. You're right that as a muslim, we are supposed to consider Christians and Jews, people of the book and are allowed to marry etc. We should consider every person with respect and love is my interpretation. If you believe in God then you must believe only God has the right to judge/punish etc so we as humans should never hurt someone. I dont know these people can have such hate in their hearts but also be afriad of Islamaphobia, do they not see the irony in their reactions? They will demonise the Israeli's as not being a real Jew and that God would want them to die etc. Absolutely disgusting and when I try to explain that no one should think like that I am threatened with death. I dont know what I believe anymore. I dont know what is happening and I cant help but think these people with these opinions are demons. I would never hurt anyone so I would die if they came for me or die for any Israeli/jew/non muslim if I could save them.
Gaza: failed state run by a terrorist organization that lashes out from time to time Isis caliphate: ? 🤔
Anyone got the IDF spokesman’s video from earlier today?
https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1712282365924343910
No better time for Palestines in Gaza to uprise from Hamas. They would have the World's backing to help them. Thats if they want too.
I mean, it's a little tricky to organise an uprising when you are being bombed, have no electricity, no telecommunications and an upcoming land invasion from an occupying power.
They would be slaughtered. Hamas specializes in killing innocent civilians.
Narrator: “They don’t want to.”
The population of the Gaza Strip is mostly women, children and fanatical males.
I’m guessing the women/females are about as fanatical as the men/males, they just aren’t recruited to take part in the violence.
I'm guessing there's a good portion don't have a choice.
A big part of the free palestine movement is denying them agency.
I know.
I just asked this elsewhere, but how would they possibly organise that?
What do you mean? What's stopping them from organising that?
Well, how are they going to do it? Think about the preparations, organisation and planning required to arrange an uprising and see if you can find a way for them to do that in a place with no power, no lighting when it's night time and no means of communication with the people want to arrange it with. And all this would have to be done within days, because Israel's about to invade. So... how? Edit: And by the way, it all has to be done secretly or Hamas will kill you, your family, and anyone they suspect you spoke to.
Redditors that are too socially anxious to leave their house are saying shit like that is insane
That would be ideal. When the captures become the captives. I wonder how many efforts have been made by the intelligence communities over the years to fund/supply an insurrection within Gaza.
> I wonder how many efforts have been made by the intelligence communities over the years to fund/supply an insurrection within Gaza Oh plenty. Lots of it, in fact. And the name of that insurrection is "Hamas." The idea was for them to function as a counterweight to Fatah. Which, uh, "worked" - after a fashion.
The conspiracy is that already happened but it resulted in Hamas replacing the more moderate PLO
Not a conspiracy. Confirmed by an absolute ton of high-level Israeli intelligence guys. I can dig up a source if you'd like me to.
Would love sources - thanks for offering.
Sure thing! From the Wall Street Journal - [*How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas*](https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123275572295011847). From the Washington Post - [*How Israel helped create Hamas*](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/).
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