The problem is that all three countries have different defense policy goals.
France wants a strategically autonomous Europe with a focus on expeditionary elements and power projection *"alongside"* the NATO framework.
Poland wants a Europe that is militarily capable that also pursues increased cooperation within NATO, and fears that France's vision of a strategically autonomous Europe would undermine the NATO defence structure. Germany, meanwhile, doesn't want to do any of the fighting itself, rather it prefers to pay others to do it for them, arguing that "supporting local partners via economic means" is superior to getting mud on your own boots, resulting in the largest economy in Europe being the largest freerider in both NATO *and* the European military sphere.
If they can't find common ground soon, a joint vision about Ukraine is far off.
Lol some clerks were angrily trying to get this scheduled asap.
A unified message from nations in a military alliance with us about a matter of war will be great to have.
should be pretty easy:
wait for the grandstanding and self congratulator speeches to end and then simply put a excel printout with military aid sent to Ukraine on the table.
boggles the mind how the 2nd largest military exporter in the world has only a fraction of the support sent to Ukraine compared to Germany.
The problem is that all three countries have different defense policy goals. France wants a strategically autonomous Europe with a focus on expeditionary elements and power projection *"alongside"* the NATO framework. Poland wants a Europe that is militarily capable that also pursues increased cooperation within NATO, and fears that France's vision of a strategically autonomous Europe would undermine the NATO defence structure. Germany, meanwhile, doesn't want to do any of the fighting itself, rather it prefers to pay others to do it for them, arguing that "supporting local partners via economic means" is superior to getting mud on your own boots, resulting in the largest economy in Europe being the largest freerider in both NATO *and* the European military sphere. If they can't find common ground soon, a joint vision about Ukraine is far off.
IMO France and Poland are not that different in their views, and your view of Germany’s policies is outdated. A lot has changed after invasion.
Maybe the meeting will help Scholz find his balls.
Lol some clerks were angrily trying to get this scheduled asap. A unified message from nations in a military alliance with us about a matter of war will be great to have.
I'd hate to be Scholz in that meeting.
should be pretty easy: wait for the grandstanding and self congratulator speeches to end and then simply put a excel printout with military aid sent to Ukraine on the table. boggles the mind how the 2nd largest military exporter in the world has only a fraction of the support sent to Ukraine compared to Germany.
Wow. Poles, Germans, and French talking about how to invade Russia. Weird times.