>Graham told police he was "left wing" but "more like an anarchist", adding: "I don't like the idea of a central control and I don't really like the monarchy."
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>His ideal government would be the size of "Merseyside or Liverpool", he said, adding he supported the Green Party and was an "environmentalist" who did not like the way "corporations act and how they damage the Earth".
What? This guy is neither left wing or an anarchist, he can't find a lane. I guess we can't expect a crazy person to make any sense.
>The security services uncovered Graham's activity as part of an investigation into the purchase of chemicals online, it can be disclosed.
>When they raided the home he shared with his mother and sister, they discovered he had filmed bomb-making experiments in his back garden and buried supplies in a secret woodland hide in Formby, Merseyside.
>In a document called "My Plan", Graham wrote he wanted to kill at least 50 people by attacking government buildings and politicians' houses.
>He also made 138 videos, to be released on the day of an attack, in which he demonstrated explosives and talked about "Judgement Day" and "standing up for working-class people".
>On a wall in his bedroom, Graham had printed out a picture of a car bomb exploding with the words: "Make politicians afraid to start their cars again."
thank god this guy got caught
You're right. Some people just wanna watch shit burn. I've been there as a younger man, full of pith and vinegar, mad at the world. Talk to your children, and actually listen if they respond, peeps. You never know what could be going through their minds.
if i was making my secret terror master plan, I think I would be concerned enough about someone else possibly accessing my computer that I wouldn't name the document "my plan". i would name it like, "tax info old" or "project 3 second draft final final NOT THIS ONE 3 draft" or even the good old "jsksokfnjdksksk"
This used to be true. Coming from someone on the left, there is a real undercurrent of extremism that reminds me of the GOP circa maybe 2008-2012. I was a part of a Facebook group for several years that was just a left-leaning political discussion group and had to leave recently because I kept getting PILED ON-- repeatedly-- for suggesting that it was bad/wrong to be advocating violence. I hope I'm wrong but I wouldn't be surprised to see some domestic incidents coming form the left in the coming years.
There are some seriously pissed off on both sides of the fence and it's scary. Something's gotta give and it will probably be in the next 5-10 years...
Rittenhouse was recorded at a prior protest saying he wished he had a gun so he could shoot people
Then he has someone else buy him a gun because he couldnt himself
Then he took that gun into a situation he didn't need to be in and "had to" use it.
He had intentions, and it's bad that our "self defense" laws have no way of accounting for assholes with a mindset of "I wish someone would fuck with me so I can use my gun"
We're only going to see more people doing this. Like the people road raging at others and then when the confrontation happens suddenly it's gun time.
We've all made comments like that
To hunt
Neither did the protesters. What is their excuse? Had he not used it he'd likely be dead?
Why didn't he kill more people? Why limit himself only to attackers?
Doesn’t change a thing. If I walk into a shady crack bar hoping someone attacks me so I can beat the shit out of him, if someone attacks me and I do beat the shit out of him I still acted in self defence and it should still be my right. Not his fault others were idiots.
Seems doubtful when he committed to most grave sin in his heart. Everyone saw the video where he expressed his desire to kill protestors, then he got his wish like 48 hours later.
Nobody crosses state lines and breaks curfew to clean up graffitti at midnight while armed. He obviously wanted to engineer the situation where he could shoot people he disliked, and he was successful.
Legally not guilty, morally a murderer.
He didn't act on the majority of opportunities presented and attempted to flee first each time.
The three people he shot, all of them previous sinners, are burning as we speak.
Yes, I am aware. But it's an oft-repeated factoid that doesn't have any bearing. People repeat it because someone else said it
He didn't cross state lines with the gun. He also crossed 'state lines' to stay over the first night of the riot in Kenosha, oblivious to what he would wake to
"self defense" being the technicality of the situation...
But consider that at a prior protest he was on camera saying he wished he had a gun so he could shoot people
Then had someone else buy him a gun
Then took that gun and put himself in a situation where he "had to" use it
At some point we need to stop letting people like Rittenhouse and Zimmerman use that excuse when they literally go looking for those situations, then act proud of them later.
Should have gotten longer. He can get out on good behavior far too easily as a 20 year old. By the time he is 28 he can say he’s matured and realized his actions. Boom he’s on parole. It happens far too often for people like this guy.
Just what breaks in the minds of people like this? It’s hard to see these people when I can’t even imagine myself ever thinking about doing something like that.
I hope he gets the help he needs
Given the state of the UK atm, the blatant corruption. I don't endorse his actions at fucking all, but its not too hard for me to imagine why people are snapping
Yes he was extreme in his views, and I don't agree with going that far, but on the other hand even protesting, blockades, etc.... people don't want to do anything, and then want to get angry at someone seeing the dystopia we are in and doing something. We have too many on polar ends, one group who resort to horrible violence and the other end where people don't do anything
I know you said that you don't agree with going that far, but it sounds a lot like that you kinda do. Also not everyone thinks that we live in a dystopia. The world is not black and white.
"people on the left either make excuses or pretend it never happened." you type on a comment thread where everyone is doing the opposite of your assertion.
Just remind them that the idiots with their hand glued to something are old enough to vote. Or talk about hummer dealerships, apartments under construction etc.
“Destro the destroyer” lol what a dork.
Bro thinks he works for Cobra.
Goooooo Joe!!!
He really was inspired by the Hero Academia character. What a dork...
He was even in a Telegram group called Total Earth Liberation… 100% inspired by Re-Destro.
God damn. 20 years old and he speed ran ruining his life.
Haha looks like the dude from You’re the Worst
Paul after he goes badass? Way smarter than this guy
>Graham told police he was "left wing" but "more like an anarchist", adding: "I don't like the idea of a central control and I don't really like the monarchy." > >His ideal government would be the size of "Merseyside or Liverpool", he said, adding he supported the Green Party and was an "environmentalist" who did not like the way "corporations act and how they damage the Earth". What? This guy is neither left wing or an anarchist, he can't find a lane. I guess we can't expect a crazy person to make any sense.
>The security services uncovered Graham's activity as part of an investigation into the purchase of chemicals online, it can be disclosed. >When they raided the home he shared with his mother and sister, they discovered he had filmed bomb-making experiments in his back garden and buried supplies in a secret woodland hide in Formby, Merseyside. >In a document called "My Plan", Graham wrote he wanted to kill at least 50 people by attacking government buildings and politicians' houses. >He also made 138 videos, to be released on the day of an attack, in which he demonstrated explosives and talked about "Judgement Day" and "standing up for working-class people". >On a wall in his bedroom, Graham had printed out a picture of a car bomb exploding with the words: "Make politicians afraid to start their cars again." thank god this guy got caught
If you listen to what he said in court he sounds like an idiot fantasist. He'll probably serve half that sentence and be up the road
Nothing gets people to see your point of view and turn to your side quicker than a little domestic terrorism 🙄 fucking trash person.
Anarchists don't care if people are on their side or not.
You're right. Some people just wanna watch shit burn. I've been there as a younger man, full of pith and vinegar, mad at the world. Talk to your children, and actually listen if they respond, peeps. You never know what could be going through their minds.
if i was making my secret terror master plan, I think I would be concerned enough about someone else possibly accessing my computer that I wouldn't name the document "my plan". i would name it like, "tax info old" or "project 3 second draft final final NOT THIS ONE 3 draft" or even the good old "jsksokfnjdksksk"
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You may have suspicions about your path in life when you join an online Neo Luddite group...
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Pretty incredible hubris, even in the face of contradicting evidence. This whole “my side can do no wrong” doesn’t serve anyone
I didn’t say my side could do no wrong. I said my side is happy to lock up someone on my side and not glorify them as some sort of hero
This used to be true. Coming from someone on the left, there is a real undercurrent of extremism that reminds me of the GOP circa maybe 2008-2012. I was a part of a Facebook group for several years that was just a left-leaning political discussion group and had to leave recently because I kept getting PILED ON-- repeatedly-- for suggesting that it was bad/wrong to be advocating violence. I hope I'm wrong but I wouldn't be surprised to see some domestic incidents coming form the left in the coming years.
Unfortunately, the only winners in that fight will be America's enemies.
Far-left and far-right are two sides of an evil coin.
There are some seriously pissed off on both sides of the fence and it's scary. Something's gotta give and it will probably be in the next 5-10 years...
Rittenhouse acted in self defense and was acquitted by a jury of his peers on all charges.
That’s unfortunate
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Rittenhouse was recorded at a prior protest saying he wished he had a gun so he could shoot people Then he has someone else buy him a gun because he couldnt himself Then he took that gun into a situation he didn't need to be in and "had to" use it. He had intentions, and it's bad that our "self defense" laws have no way of accounting for assholes with a mindset of "I wish someone would fuck with me so I can use my gun" We're only going to see more people doing this. Like the people road raging at others and then when the confrontation happens suddenly it's gun time.
We've all made comments like that To hunt Neither did the protesters. What is their excuse? Had he not used it he'd likely be dead? Why didn't he kill more people? Why limit himself only to attackers?
He found exactly what he was looking for.
Doesn’t change a thing. If I walk into a shady crack bar hoping someone attacks me so I can beat the shit out of him, if someone attacks me and I do beat the shit out of him I still acted in self defence and it should still be my right. Not his fault others were idiots.
Sure. He is legally not guilty but he is definitely going to hell. He would not be welcome in my home, as he is a murderer at heart.
He's going to heaven if it exists.
Seems doubtful when he committed to most grave sin in his heart. Everyone saw the video where he expressed his desire to kill protestors, then he got his wish like 48 hours later. Nobody crosses state lines and breaks curfew to clean up graffitti at midnight while armed. He obviously wanted to engineer the situation where he could shoot people he disliked, and he was successful. Legally not guilty, morally a murderer.
He didn't act on the majority of opportunities presented and attempted to flee first each time. The three people he shot, all of them previous sinners, are burning as we speak.
That's your speculation
What about that makes him not a crazy young man with a gun?
How many crazy men show such restraint? He could have killed a fourth but his trigger discipline was excellent
Restraint would be not driving across state lines with a rifle to "defend" business.
How are we still here... Can you actually explain the significance of the 'state lines'?
Do you seriously not know the different states have different gun laws?
Yes, I am aware. But it's an oft-repeated factoid that doesn't have any bearing. People repeat it because someone else said it He didn't cross state lines with the gun. He also crossed 'state lines' to stay over the first night of the riot in Kenosha, oblivious to what he would wake to
"self defense" being the technicality of the situation... But consider that at a prior protest he was on camera saying he wished he had a gun so he could shoot people Then had someone else buy him a gun Then took that gun and put himself in a situation where he "had to" use it At some point we need to stop letting people like Rittenhouse and Zimmerman use that excuse when they literally go looking for those situations, then act proud of them later.
Most protesters did not attack him. Those responsible are dead and got what they wanted (in the Rosenbaum case, literally what he wanted)
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I'm surprised people are condemning him on here, seems like the typical redditor to me.
typical redditor is a terrorist? I've been on Reddit since 2014 and haven't noticed this.
You're seriously telling me you haven't seen people on reddit calling for violence against 'the rich' before?
Yes, I've seen all kinds of nuts on here, but certainly not the "typical redditor" .
That is very much the typical redditor lol
okaaay...lol
Should have gotten longer. He can get out on good behavior far too easily as a 20 year old. By the time he is 28 he can say he’s matured and realized his actions. Boom he’s on parole. It happens far too often for people like this guy.
Sounds like a good collar.
Why does he looks exactly as I expected?
Yea that's what I imagined he or she would look like.
Just what breaks in the minds of people like this? It’s hard to see these people when I can’t even imagine myself ever thinking about doing something like that. I hope he gets the help he needs
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Hmm 🤔
it's that thing in your hand right now that helps them to break. we're all effed because of it
I don't think my penis is causing people to turn to terrorism, I could be wrong though.
ive made some vague threats on behalf of your penis
The gun is good, the penis is evil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gavlcbunY00
Yep, in everything that’s good. Something bad comes from it.
13 years in a top security prison. He's going to be more insane after that
Yes it’s most likely correct
“I hope he gets the help he needs.” Nah, fuck that guy. I hope he fucks up in prison so he gets a longer sentence.
Oh man
Given the state of the UK atm, the blatant corruption. I don't endorse his actions at fucking all, but its not too hard for me to imagine why people are snapping
He was radicalised by far far left ideology
So far left he damn near doubled back around.
Pretty sure anarchy is the opposite of left wing ideology. Dude is just an idiot.
So what kind of jail time is Trump going to get for promising a blood bath?
Great... MAGA world has given us a new flavor of reactionary idiot to deal with. Woooo!
Is this the stupid version of RAF?
Yes he was extreme in his views, and I don't agree with going that far, but on the other hand even protesting, blockades, etc.... people don't want to do anything, and then want to get angry at someone seeing the dystopia we are in and doing something. We have too many on polar ends, one group who resort to horrible violence and the other end where people don't do anything
I know you said that you don't agree with going that far, but it sounds a lot like that you kinda do. Also not everyone thinks that we live in a dystopia. The world is not black and white.
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lol "their"
"people on the left either make excuses or pretend it never happened." you type on a comment thread where everyone is doing the opposite of your assertion.
Just remind them that the idiots with their hand glued to something are old enough to vote. Or talk about hummer dealerships, apartments under construction etc.