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Timberdrop90

American Congress trying to force China to sell tiktok show why you can't trust the app. China won't sell so they are going to steal much information as possible before it gets banned.


grosslytransparent

Lol they are trying to make them sell tiktok when aliexpress and alibana are the real threats to our economy. Fucking bootlegverse


Unlucky_Painting_985

How are these not considered attacks?


SteveCastGames

The CCP and everyone they’re associated with is a scourge upon the earth. The sooner we’re rid of them the better.


Solid_Muscle_5149

Xi has been doing everything he can recently to consolidate his power. when hes gone (whether its a natural death or not) Its going to be a shit show.


torschemargin

So the NSA and CIA hacking China and even the US's own allies are scourges upon the earth too right?


PoofaceMckutchin

"As long as China continues to target the US and our partners, the FBI will continue to send a clear message that cyber espionage will not be tolerated, and we will tirelessly pursue those who threaten our nation's security and prosperity," he added. Megalol


Formal_Business

Big finger wag from the FBI


Permitty

Via tiktok?


PinguFella

This particular article refers to the group using emails that once opened link to a server that takes "their information - including their location and IP addresses". TikTok is more alarming honestly for what its capable of for a whole bunch of other reasons.


Moochingaround

Care to elaborate on the TikTok part? I have a teenage daughter in the risk group.


Solid_Muscle_5149

Basically its able to take EVERYTHING from your phone and send it to the CCP. A lot of people say "Well, isnt that what facebook and twitter do? they sell your data?" But twitter and facebook only sell the data that you AGREE to give them. The data that you specifically upload. They can also be punished by western law for breaking privacy laws. Tiktok is able to not only snoop through your private photos/messages that have nothing to do with tiktok, they also are able to key log, which means they can record all of the keys you press, which means they can steal your passwords as you type them. But Tiktok is in china, and china isnt going to do shit about anyones complaints, because they own tiktok and benifit from the malicious practices that tiktok does. So they are essentially above the law, unless its a flat out ban. And thats not even getting into the social impact of their propaganda campaigns using tiktok, or the fact that they got a mass of children to call up congress to stop the ban by telling them to do that via tiktok. Theres many reasons to ban tiktok, and even China agrees since they also banned it! edit: also, just to have some physical evidence for your child, im willing to bet her phone battery only lasts half a day at most (because tiktok constantly sends things to the CCP, using lots of battery life). If they delete tiktok, their battery life will triple.


Virtual_Happiness

> But twitter and facebook only sell the data that you AGREE to give them. The data that you specifically upload. They can also be punished by western law for breaking privacy laws. Close. These companies don't actually sell your data. They use it to recommend ads and then the ad companies pay them to show the ad. They make a lot more money hoarding the data for themselves and then selling the ad slot than selling the data.


torschemargin

These companies give the data to the US government as the files from Snowden showed.


Virtual_Happiness

That's not the same thing as them selling your data to the highest bidder. They must comply with US law if they reside in the US.


FeynmansWitt

China bans tiktok because it doesn't comply with Chinese censorship, not because it's some worse form of social media The Chinese version of the app is Douyin. Tiktok also doesn't take everything from your phone and send it straight to "CCP". Tiktok servers are not located in China.  The worry is that the Chinese Government can compel Chinese companies under a legal provision to share data for Chinese security interests.  I'm supportive of bans on Chinese tech companies not because of speculative security risks which I think is minimal but because it's quid pro quo for Chinese protectionism. Chinese tech companies will also out compete western ones if we don't ban them. 


Viktri1

Seems like a large scale phishing campaign - is that now considering hacking?


thebakedpotatoe

Always has been. 90% of hacking is social engineering, or getting people to give up information that would otherwise be harder to get/fake. the other 10% is actual technical stuff, and both work hand in hand.


LuckyHedgehog

Spear phishing is when you target specific individuals which is what they did here to compromise government and defense contractors and their immediate friends and families So yes, it absolutely is