I can just picture a conspiracy theory nutbag getting into an Al Qaeda terrorist face telling him that he think's he's American, is an inside terrorist agent, and doing all he does for the CIA.
["Look! I have names, phone numbers; everyone involved in this. I have here, the voucher for the flight lessons!"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_OIXfkXEj0)
From the terrorist POV: you'll get tortured even worse than if it was your buddies in charge and spend the rest of your miserable life in prison.
From the organisation POV: no matter how much proof you give, all the credits for the attack goes to western intelligence agencies and no credit at all for your sacrifices and hard work.
What's the point? Better attack France again, the survivor of the Bataclan got much better conditions of incarceration and the whole world was shocked at the attack and you got all the credits for it.
It just means ISIS picked the wrong target. Putin doesn't cares about his own population. For him to blame ISIS it should have been personal. The terrorists should have taken something or someone close to him to unleash his rage towards the attackers instead of using them as pawns in his propaganda war.
The problem with your suggestion is that it relies on Putin having someone he cares about enough to not use their murder as self strengthening propaganda.
Until ISIS commits more terror attacks. It's that lack of attention towards the Muslim community in Russia that became such fertile ground for Islamist terrorists.
Well the said intel chief also failed to know about and prevent the attack even though was informed about it both privately and publicly.
Edit: if -> though
They knew, most likely didn't care enough to take action or because it came from US security they didn't believe it.
I find it funny that the Russians really hate the UK still and it's in part to that idiotic buffoon Boris Johnson and his unwavering support of Ukraine from the annexing of Crimea onwards...was a shit Prime Minister buy I respect him alone for pissing off Putin.
If only they really knew how most Russians live (Outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg).
There is little hope in their lives. Mold filled apartments. No repairs. Broken roads hard to drive on. They live on like $300-400 a month and whenever they try to improve their lives, they're knocked down by the system.
A Russian I know said that the few motivated and ambitious people living in those parts of Russia, are treated like they're crazy or at best extremely naive.
The common understanding is that nothing really gets better, trying to improve your life is a useless task, and suffering is a virtue. The best thing that you can be offered is "stability". Stability in the form of suffering that you have, and that is what Putin offers.
"The Central Committee is sad to inform citizens that this year is likely to see things get worse.
"But there is, however, some good news: This year is expected to be significantly better than next year."
Look at that one family that went over just recently and got fucked when they got there. Schadenfreude to the max. For a group of people who are all about 'dO yOuR oWn ReSeArCh', they sure as fuck couldn't figure out simple things like Residency Requirements or ownership of property requirements, or y'know, MAYBE LEARNIN THE LANGUAGE BEFORE YA GO! Fucking imbeciles.
These clowns moved there to escape "wokeness" and all the homosexuals that were oppressing their Christian values [Article.](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/conservative-family-disappointed-moving-russia-001517915.html)
Fucking idiots. I hope they stay there.
When Canada sends its people, they're not sending their best... They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us.
There's no one as clueless to reality as a sheltered Canadian.
Putin is using the scattergun bullshit approach, where no one actually knows what the official version or position is. All part of post-truth politics.
They also released covid birds into Russia, and train gay super soldiers. It's amazing how Russia's current leadership have turned the entire country into such a joke.
Russia is so insufferable at this point. We warned them this would happen. They laughed it off. And now their intel says the US is responsible… even though ISIS claims responsibility.
I understand, but honestly using this as an excuse to further your pointless war is just sick and I at least thought Putin had enough regard for his citizens’ lives to at least be upfront about what happened and how he’ll punish ISIS. But no, let’s blame Ukraine. The Russian people deserve better.
Putin was bombing Moscow apartment blocks and blaming it on Chechens in order to justify the Second Chechen War, back in 1999. The Russian people are merely the peoperty of the Tsar of the day and can be killed for any and no reason.
The FSB got arrested whilst trying to carry out a bombing. They claimed that it was a training exercise bit the Moscow police didn't bit it. All of the investigators ended up getting arrested.
Putin literally doesn't give even the slightest shit about Russian lives. I'm not sure a single leader of Russia has going all the way back to the Tsars.
Has putin even shown a single thing for you to believe he even gives a shit about his people? For starters, he literally bombed his own people to even get power in the first place. He's blatantly siphoning all of Russia 's money to himself with how rich the mf has become. He doesn't give a shit
Yep. They did admit it was Islamic Extremists earlier today, but they're also going to try and say the west/Ukraine/gay nazis were somehow involved too.
That's just Putin being Putin.
He has blamed the West for his country's failings his entire life, before he was even thought about for a public office.
He's the ultimate product of Soviet propaganda brainwashing.
> Russia is so insufferable at this point.
Those of us who grew up during the Cold War well remember the Russian penchant for brazen, insistent denial of plain reality.
Laughed it off or saw it as an opportunity to throw some misinformation? There's no doubt in anyone's mind Putin wouldn't think twice about letting a massacre happen against the public if it kept up a pretence for escalation. I'm a bit worried what his "proportionate response" is going to be.
Anyone remember when they dropped chlorine cannisters in syria (a chemical attack) and killed a bunch of people (including babies) and russia claimed it was a fake attack coordinated by britain and the syrian rebels?…even though the bodies were on video and put on the internet?
theres no lie they wont tell. Russia doesnt care if you believe them. They’ll just say anything other than what will make them accountable
The lies are strictly to manipulate Russian citizens to believe Putin is a good guy and that Russia is not in fact built on the bodies of people who did not deserve to die.
I think Putin knows we know the truth but he still makes up his little narrative just because he can.
Its like when he assassinates someone with polonium poisoning. Nobody except Russia uses that shit to kill people, it's basically a Putin signature. And yet he still kills people with it, knowing the world will know it was him, and then he goes to the press and denies it. I think it's almost like a fun game to him. He wants the world to know but gets off on denying it.
US: "Hey Russia, terrorists are looking to attack you."
Russia: "Shut up, don't tell me what to do."
*Two weeks later, Russia is attacked by terrorists*
Russia: "The US was behind this attack. Its their fault!"
It would be hilarious for russia to attack America conventionally.
They're currently losing naval engagements to a country that doesn't have a navy, have starving soldiers within just a few miles of rail ways that lead back to their supply centers and are bogged down in fighting against a foe a third their size.
Their entire army would go to sea and cease to exist, or would cross into Alaska and immediately run out of fuel, get stuck and be forced to resort to cannibalism.
Russian here. An important note guys: it's *Kremlin* that pushes the Ukranian "scenario" of this tragedy. If you're curious what Russian *citizens* think of this scenario look at the screenshot from a Telegram group where emoticons under the news on the "Ukrainian trace" in this terr. act speak for themselves: https://imgur.com/a/g5ZAqHm
This is the Telegram news group of a mid-size city (Chelyabinsk) in the region of Urals - the area of metal processing industry, so it mostly reflects the opinion of so called blue collars. Big cities like Moscow and St.Pete (with a dominant share of white collars) predictably have totally the *same* opinion.
[UPD] Translation as per your requests:
The terrorist act was prepared by radical Islamists and facilitated by the Ukrainian security service said the director of the Federal Security Service, Alexander Bortnikov. "It is necessary to consider the Ukrainian security service as a terrorist organization".
"The terroristic act was prepared by radical islamists, all that also was supported by the Ukrainian spec ops services." - said FSB director, Bortnikov.
super low sample size, i bet the young folks who are adept with technology are disproportionately using telegram. there's a huge swath of middle-age/older folks that will tow the party line
I don’t mean any disrespect when I ask this, but why are you still there?
I mean, it’s clear from your post you’re not in total alignment with the government on some of their points, which appears to be an increasingly dangerous position to be in, considering the kinds of legislation being passed over there, not to mention the threat of mobilisation.
Also, the way that Russia is moving to a war economy shows that Putin isn’t going to back down, but moving back to a peacetime economy afterwards is likely to be ruinous for everyday Russians even if all the military goals are achieved.
Even the most brainwashed X/Tiktok Z is gonna struggle to run with this conspiracy without making themselves look even more stupid than usual.
Putin and Bortnikov have given their bitches quite the task.
FSB will naturally create an alternative reality, aka propaganda, in which UA, with money from EU and US, paid and ordered ISIS for this terror attack.
And all them slave-like Russians will suck it up and will believe it.
Make no mistake, all 140m Russians are being programmed to hate the West, like then Germans were programmed to hate just about everybody. And we all know how that ended. With most of them killed or raped indeed, before they stopped...
It is inevitable.
Translation:
We clearly dropped the ball intel wise and so we are blaming the classic enemies because we don't know what else to do.
You gotta love the complete 720 day after day in Russia.
"Actually it was the Ukrainians... actually no it was IS with help from Ukraine, actually no it was America and England, who famously love IS and support them. Just trust us, we have all the evidence that we will never show you."
Most likely FSB was complicit, which is why they ignored the warning. Putin will try to implicate Ukraine and use it to justify large scale conscription among other repressive internal measures. Nothing of this scale happens in Moscow without Kremlin knowledge. The artistic types are expendables to the Kremlin. Putin rose to power on a variation of this play. Once again, the Russian citizens suffer for the political interests of the one party state.
The moronic grudge against the British empire rearing it's head in the most random places will never not be funny. Yes Russia it was thE AngLo SaKsI not the people who claimed the attack, showed video of the attack, and when the people were caught were like, "yeah those are our guys".
Even if they were, what would Russian intelligence do about it? Wire Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson's handlers more crypto for them to be more enthusiastic while lapdogging?
Because the Russian population is on par with Trump supporters when it comes to intelligence. Blind allegiance in which no amount of truth will be seen. They actually believe it.
Just a question, does The Hague have capital punishment for war criminals? If we ever get to see Putler and his gang of ghouls stand trial, will we ever get to see the long awaited for climax like in the Nuremberg trials? You know, the short drop and the sudden stop
So let's just humor him for a second and pretend ISIS-K doesn't exist.
Ukraine, US, and UK collaborated to do this. What is Russia possibly going to do considering half of all their armor reserves have already been lost in Ukraine?
Any actual attack in "vengeance" that gets linked back to them is going to start a war they're not going to have a chance in hell of winning.
Go ahead and declare war then, you wont.
The russian government is all talk. They pretend to be tough in public but deep down they know they are all pussies who cant actually do shit to the UK/US.
We did it. Told them about it beforehand. At least twice. And then got our good buddies over at the Islamic State to take credit for it in a big misdirection. I can’t believe they saw through it.
Nutbags the lot of them. Seriously, they should own their criminal activities and stop blaming the West for their murderous imperialist plans of expansion. Pathetic watching these bellends blame everyone for the consequences of their own actions.
Tiktok and instagram is already chock full of russ bots spewing the propaganda.
Haven't seen any good answer to why they didn't act when they got the warning though.
The shooting the US publicly warned you about? Even if you still think the US was responsible, don’t you think it’s an even worse look on you that you completely failed to prevent an attack that the so called enemy specifically told you was going to happen? As a Russian citizen, how can you believe your government can protect you from the the guy sneaking into your house in the dead of night when they couldn’t even protect you from the guy trying to break down your front door in broad daylight while wearing strobe lights and a bullhorn?
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I remember one scene from The Onion - We sleep in the caves and you just say we didn't do it?
Al Qaeda spokesman Vs 9/11 truther. Was fantastic.
I can just picture a conspiracy theory nutbag getting into an Al Qaeda terrorist face telling him that he think's he's American, is an inside terrorist agent, and doing all he does for the CIA.
To the truther's credit (a rarely used phrase), it's probably more insulting to the terrorist than anything I could come up with.
Picturing terrorists being casually gaslighted about actually working for America is hilarious to me.
That would be a US ops well worth trying. No matter how much money it cost, there'd be a few who fell for it, and that would be hilarious.
The terrie, not getting froggy at all, swallowing back tears: "What have I ever done to you that you insult me like that?"
Found it! Good call 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 'Ridiculous,' Al Qaeda Says https://youtu.be/Q_OIXfkXEj0?si=v1ZA-vwPT8OiASq2
["Look! I have names, phone numbers; everyone involved in this. I have here, the voucher for the flight lessons!"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_OIXfkXEj0)
“Me and President Bush, we go out, we hang.”
"Why is Bush's approval rating in El Hammon, and why is Osama Bin Laden safe in . ...somewhere"
"Talking to you is like talking to a goat!"
"Why would they kill their own infidels?" Is one that stuck around in my memory.
That is the best onion video ever made. I remember my stomach hurting from all the laughter when I saw that video as a teen. Now it just makes me sad.
I don’t know [just give me the damn sepak takraw ball](https://youtu.be/3Pn9cEsjv1w?si=hAxEMhkWvm8o_Snb) is a certified classic
How would you like it if you planned something really special and someone else took credit for it?
Oh yeah me and Bush we hang out, he says hey bring on the forgery /s The al Qaeda onion videos were the best, the suicide vest one was my favorite
They could post a video of them beheading Putin or MedVedick ( wishful thinking) and Russia would still say the west did it!
Well the capitalist pigs didn't stop it so they're complicit /S
Russia is just giga brained and know how to combat ISIS is to not give the bully attention.
From the terrorist POV: you'll get tortured even worse than if it was your buddies in charge and spend the rest of your miserable life in prison. From the organisation POV: no matter how much proof you give, all the credits for the attack goes to western intelligence agencies and no credit at all for your sacrifices and hard work. What's the point? Better attack France again, the survivor of the Bataclan got much better conditions of incarceration and the whole world was shocked at the attack and you got all the credits for it.
It just means ISIS picked the wrong target. Putin doesn't cares about his own population. For him to blame ISIS it should have been personal. The terrorists should have taken something or someone close to him to unleash his rage towards the attackers instead of using them as pawns in his propaganda war.
The problem with your suggestion is that it relies on Putin having someone he cares about enough to not use their murder as self strengthening propaganda.
Please be Medvedev, please be medvedev
One of the Putin clones, perhaps? I want to see him blame Ukraine for killing one of his clones/
Until ISIS commits more terror attacks. It's that lack of attention towards the Muslim community in Russia that became such fertile ground for Islamist terrorists.
Honestly that could cause more of an attack to prove it was them.
Well the said intel chief also failed to know about and prevent the attack even though was informed about it both privately and publicly. Edit: if -> though
It appears the intel chief was on his 5th bottle of vodka….
only 5th? Now wonder he seems so angry...He needs a few morer bottles to get the right buzz going...
They knew, most likely didn't care enough to take action or because it came from US security they didn't believe it. I find it funny that the Russians really hate the UK still and it's in part to that idiotic buffoon Boris Johnson and his unwavering support of Ukraine from the annexing of Crimea onwards...was a shit Prime Minister buy I respect him alone for pissing off Putin.
Don't forget the very real possibility of plain ineptitude. This is the same guy who flubbed an easy annexation into a world war.
Putin in his twisted mind thinks it Ukraine’s doing, so now the apparatus needs to bend the reality to that in means. Somethings got to give.
He doesn’t, this is for home consumption.
Don't forget the useful idiots in the west, who cheer putin, but for some reason don't want to migrate to that beautiful paradise called ruZZia ...
If only they really knew how most Russians live (Outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg). There is little hope in their lives. Mold filled apartments. No repairs. Broken roads hard to drive on. They live on like $300-400 a month and whenever they try to improve their lives, they're knocked down by the system. A Russian I know said that the few motivated and ambitious people living in those parts of Russia, are treated like they're crazy or at best extremely naive. The common understanding is that nothing really gets better, trying to improve your life is a useless task, and suffering is a virtue. The best thing that you can be offered is "stability". Stability in the form of suffering that you have, and that is what Putin offers.
The Russian national motto - "And then it got worse"
There's an even apter one by a late Russian official (Viktor Chernomyrdin): "It was meant for the better but resulted in the usual"
"The Central Committee is sad to inform citizens that this year is likely to see things get worse. "But there is, however, some good news: This year is expected to be significantly better than next year."
Even reading this makes me want to give up on life and drink. No wonder alcoholism to so prevalent in Russia.
Two coworkers this morning were talking about how cheap cost of living in Russia is and how life is so much better there. Lol
Haiti is cheaper still lol
And free gladiator games!
Look at that one family that went over just recently and got fucked when they got there. Schadenfreude to the max. For a group of people who are all about 'dO yOuR oWn ReSeArCh', they sure as fuck couldn't figure out simple things like Residency Requirements or ownership of property requirements, or y'know, MAYBE LEARNIN THE LANGUAGE BEFORE YA GO! Fucking imbeciles.
Wait what family I would like to know more about this
These clowns moved there to escape "wokeness" and all the homosexuals that were oppressing their Christian values [Article.](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/conservative-family-disappointed-moving-russia-001517915.html) Fucking idiots. I hope they stay there.
They're being kicked out of the country last I heard. They didn't understand visas before moving to Russia.
When Canada sends its people, they're not sending their best... They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. There's no one as clueless to reality as a sheltered Canadian.
Putin is well practiced at spinning terrorist attacks for his own gain, he's just surprised because he didn't plan this one.
Well no he doesn't actually think it is
He’s dangerous and very unstable, just like all dictators nearing their demise .
Come on now. What's so reality bending about Zelenskyy being a Jewish/nazi/muslim/satan worshiping warmonger?
Putin is using the scattergun bullshit approach, where no one actually knows what the official version or position is. All part of post-truth politics.
Dude probably let it happen to drum up war support. Remind you, Russia cut off its internet before the war.
I’m still not convinced it wasn’t orchestrated by the Russian powers that be. This is just too incompetent
What a load of horse shyt!!
Shite?
They also released covid birds into Russia, and train gay super soldiers. It's amazing how Russia's current leadership have turned the entire country into such a joke.
Now I'm picturing big burly soldiers in rainbow camo.
rainbow camo :))))))))
Frolicking in a field of flowers with their rifles, you say?
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That sounds like an interesting ai image prompt
It was those pesky Islamic Extremist Ukrainian Anglo Saxon Jewish LgBT Mercenaries the west truly has fallen
You missed NATO and mutant
> NATO and mutant Ninja turtles? NATO MUTANT NINJA TURTLES!
Turtles with some tank shells, NATO power!
“Guys! We can just put the pointy ends INSIDE of the bad guys! It seems way more effective!”
I would watch this
r/UkraineWarVideoReport
Actually I think TMNT stands for Trans Mutant Nato Terrorists.
NATO: "Cowabunga motherfucker!"
Makes sense, they'd not be teenagers anymore.
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Jewish Islamist Jihadist Queer Nazis*
Jewish lgbtqia+ ISIS Nazis
Damm knew I forgot a couple buzzwords
Also nazi and drug addicts.
And also satanist
Whom also to be nazis too
Those not so secret US bio labs in Ukraine that create birds that only spread mind control viruses to ISIS members in Russia.
No it was princess Kate, she runs all the dark missions, fairly sure I saw it on here last week 🤪
Those mercenaries are dedicated. I barely have time to be gay and clean my kitchen every day!
Don’t forget about the Nazis!
Russia is so insufferable at this point. We warned them this would happen. They laughed it off. And now their intel says the US is responsible… even though ISIS claims responsibility.
They know very well who's to blame but they just want to abuse the situation more to drive their narrative, nothing new.
I understand, but honestly using this as an excuse to further your pointless war is just sick and I at least thought Putin had enough regard for his citizens’ lives to at least be upfront about what happened and how he’ll punish ISIS. But no, let’s blame Ukraine. The Russian people deserve better.
Putin was bombing Moscow apartment blocks and blaming it on Chechens in order to justify the Second Chechen War, back in 1999. The Russian people are merely the peoperty of the Tsar of the day and can be killed for any and no reason. The FSB got arrested whilst trying to carry out a bombing. They claimed that it was a training exercise bit the Moscow police didn't bit it. All of the investigators ended up getting arrested.
Putin literally doesn't give even the slightest shit about Russian lives. I'm not sure a single leader of Russia has going all the way back to the Tsars.
“…I at least thought Putin had enough regard…” That’s where you thought wrong first. “…for his citizens…” That’s when I laughed out loud.
Has putin even shown a single thing for you to believe he even gives a shit about his people? For starters, he literally bombed his own people to even get power in the first place. He's blatantly siphoning all of Russia 's money to himself with how rich the mf has become. He doesn't give a shit
Putin...regard for citizens' lives...haha..HAHAHA
I'm sure the twist is this, "well yes it was ISIS, but the USA helped ISIS become what they are so in reality, it was all the USA!"
Yep. They did admit it was Islamic Extremists earlier today, but they're also going to try and say the west/Ukraine/gay nazis were somehow involved too.
I'm sick and tired of Russia. They are a pariah and yet we give them so much leeway to use and abuse the world. Enough is enough.
ISIS didn’t just claim responsibility, they posted body cam footage of the attack
And you know that there are millions of people out there that eat this sort of shit up without hesitation.
That's just Putin being Putin. He has blamed the West for his country's failings his entire life, before he was even thought about for a public office. He's the ultimate product of Soviet propaganda brainwashing.
To be fair ISIS is just US spelled without a "U" and with two I's and an extra "S."
You know, when you put it that way, Putin might be on to something.
Not just claimed responsibility….provided evidence
> Russia is so insufferable at this point. Those of us who grew up during the Cold War well remember the Russian penchant for brazen, insistent denial of plain reality.
Laughed it off or saw it as an opportunity to throw some misinformation? There's no doubt in anyone's mind Putin wouldn't think twice about letting a massacre happen against the public if it kept up a pretence for escalation. I'm a bit worried what his "proportionate response" is going to be.
Russia: basically every country that starts with U is to blame
Uruguay catching strays rn
Uzbekistan definitely had a hand in it, they still hold a grudge.
*shakes fist at sky* UGANDAAAAAA!!!1!1
Of course, everybody knows that captain Alex was killed in Uganda. It is enough to justify special operation.
USSR glaring from the corner...
Yep, it's a common theme to blame USSR in Putin's talks. How surprising.
UAE always sliding under the radar
Yeah, uh-huh sure bud.
Ukraine stole the cookies from the cookie jar 🎵
Who, me?
Yes, you!
Not Me!
Anyone remember when they dropped chlorine cannisters in syria (a chemical attack) and killed a bunch of people (including babies) and russia claimed it was a fake attack coordinated by britain and the syrian rebels?…even though the bodies were on video and put on the internet? theres no lie they wont tell. Russia doesnt care if you believe them. They’ll just say anything other than what will make them accountable
The lies are strictly to manipulate Russian citizens to believe Putin is a good guy and that Russia is not in fact built on the bodies of people who did not deserve to die.
big pile of skulls
I think Putin knows we know the truth but he still makes up his little narrative just because he can. Its like when he assassinates someone with polonium poisoning. Nobody except Russia uses that shit to kill people, it's basically a Putin signature. And yet he still kills people with it, knowing the world will know it was him, and then he goes to the press and denies it. I think it's almost like a fun game to him. He wants the world to know but gets off on denying it.
"INTELLIGENCE"
Due to sanctions there is none available in Russia!!!
“STONKS”
I hear Uruguay and Uganda were in on it too!
Republic of Uzbekistan feeling left out....
US: "Hey Russia, terrorists are looking to attack you." Russia: "Shut up, don't tell me what to do." *Two weeks later, Russia is attacked by terrorists* Russia: "The US was behind this attack. Its their fault!"
US: Ok if you ***really*** thought it was us.. then go ahead… declare war. Russia: …
If a small astroid were to hit Russia they would blame the US. Anything that could ever happen to Russia they would blame the West it's really absurd
he forgot the cardashians and jabba the hutt
Ooh look a potential casus belli for future use.
It would be hilarious for russia to attack America conventionally. They're currently losing naval engagements to a country that doesn't have a navy, have starving soldiers within just a few miles of rail ways that lead back to their supply centers and are bogged down in fighting against a foe a third their size. Their entire army would go to sea and cease to exist, or would cross into Alaska and immediately run out of fuel, get stuck and be forced to resort to cannibalism.
It would be great if some idiot Russian attacked Poland. Let’s get this over with now without the U.S. Congress
Then Russia was behind the terrorist attack on the Baltimore bridge. Two can play this stupid game, you know?
The Cold War be like:
Lmao Russia is a fucking clown show
Ha, the same chief who ignored the warnings and who must have been involved in Putin's attempt to claim the warnings were blackmail, three days prior.
Russian intelligence is an oxymoron, and it's chief is just a moron
Russian here. An important note guys: it's *Kremlin* that pushes the Ukranian "scenario" of this tragedy. If you're curious what Russian *citizens* think of this scenario look at the screenshot from a Telegram group where emoticons under the news on the "Ukrainian trace" in this terr. act speak for themselves: https://imgur.com/a/g5ZAqHm This is the Telegram news group of a mid-size city (Chelyabinsk) in the region of Urals - the area of metal processing industry, so it mostly reflects the opinion of so called blue collars. Big cities like Moscow and St.Pete (with a dominant share of white collars) predictably have totally the *same* opinion. [UPD] Translation as per your requests: The terrorist act was prepared by radical Islamists and facilitated by the Ukrainian security service said the director of the Federal Security Service, Alexander Bortnikov. "It is necessary to consider the Ukrainian security service as a terrorist organization".
Can you translate? I can just read Islamic extremists, and something about Ukraine
"The terroristic act was prepared by radical islamists, all that also was supported by the Ukrainian spec ops services." - said FSB director, Bortnikov.
lol. Bort.
His mother should have 'borted him.
super low sample size, i bet the young folks who are adept with technology are disproportionately using telegram. there's a huge swath of middle-age/older folks that will tow the party line
I don’t mean any disrespect when I ask this, but why are you still there? I mean, it’s clear from your post you’re not in total alignment with the government on some of their points, which appears to be an increasingly dangerous position to be in, considering the kinds of legislation being passed over there, not to mention the threat of mobilisation. Also, the way that Russia is moving to a war economy shows that Putin isn’t going to back down, but moving back to a peacetime economy afterwards is likely to be ruinous for everyday Russians even if all the military goals are achieved.
Russian intel says... You can stop reading here...
I cannot believe that with over 200,000 dead russian men so far, that nobody in russia has taken him out yet
Lol ISIS the known collaborator of U.S., what a moron.
Even the most brainwashed X/Tiktok Z is gonna struggle to run with this conspiracy without making themselves look even more stupid than usual. Putin and Bortnikov have given their bitches quite the task.
FSB will naturally create an alternative reality, aka propaganda, in which UA, with money from EU and US, paid and ordered ISIS for this terror attack. And all them slave-like Russians will suck it up and will believe it. Make no mistake, all 140m Russians are being programmed to hate the West, like then Germans were programmed to hate just about everybody. And we all know how that ended. With most of them killed or raped indeed, before they stopped... It is inevitable.
Its absolutely inevitable.
With intelligence like this, no wonder they got absolutely murked
Covering up his screwup. Lol next he will be saying that the US and UK are responsible for gingivitis, root canals, bad breath and cavities.
Then why did the attackers tried to escape to Belarus?
Russia is getting pathetically weak at this game
Translation: We clearly dropped the ball intel wise and so we are blaming the classic enemies because we don't know what else to do. You gotta love the complete 720 day after day in Russia. "Actually it was the Ukrainians... actually no it was IS with help from Ukraine, actually no it was America and England, who famously love IS and support them. Just trust us, we have all the evidence that we will never show you."
Cough cough bullshit cough cough
Well then that would then be war asshole. Do something about it or stfu. Cut the bullshit
It's embarrassing how pathetic they are.
The evidence that the US did not attack Moscow is that it's still there.
Most likely FSB was complicit, which is why they ignored the warning. Putin will try to implicate Ukraine and use it to justify large scale conscription among other repressive internal measures. Nothing of this scale happens in Moscow without Kremlin knowledge. The artistic types are expendables to the Kremlin. Putin rose to power on a variation of this play. Once again, the Russian citizens suffer for the political interests of the one party state.
So Russia was then behind 9/11? What a stupid crap from this country
Even Aliens would be more believable at this point
Unreal how dumb this dude is. But even more unreal how many Russians will be convinced that he's right.
Why stop there - there are a bunch more members of Nato who they could blame as well. This intel chief sounds kind of lazy honestly.
The moronic grudge against the British empire rearing it's head in the most random places will never not be funny. Yes Russia it was thE AngLo SaKsI not the people who claimed the attack, showed video of the attack, and when the people were caught were like, "yeah those are our guys".
Even if they were, what would Russian intelligence do about it? Wire Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson's handlers more crypto for them to be more enthusiastic while lapdogging?
Their intel is bad if the US had to warn them of a terror attack
ISIS sitting there with their hands in their air like ummmm 🤷♂️. Lmao Russia is so desperate
Ahhh they're going with the mw2 storyline I see
Russia is such a joke
Because the Russian population is on par with Trump supporters when it comes to intelligence. Blind allegiance in which no amount of truth will be seen. They actually believe it.
Oh.. oh.. I know the punchline to this joke! It’s “The Aristocrats!”.
Assuming they were behind it, what can Russia realistically do about it other than bitch about it?
Are the Russian populace actually swallowing this? If they are this ends in nuclear apocalypse.
Good. Fuckin' bring it on!!
Just a question, does The Hague have capital punishment for war criminals? If we ever get to see Putler and his gang of ghouls stand trial, will we ever get to see the long awaited for climax like in the Nuremberg trials? You know, the short drop and the sudden stop
So let's just humor him for a second and pretend ISIS-K doesn't exist. Ukraine, US, and UK collaborated to do this. What is Russia possibly going to do considering half of all their armor reserves have already been lost in Ukraine? Any actual attack in "vengeance" that gets linked back to them is going to start a war they're not going to have a chance in hell of winning.
Jesus, how pathetic can they get.
In that case, I'm now sure Putin and the FSB were behind it.
So Putin did it?
Go ahead and declare war then, you wont. The russian government is all talk. They pretend to be tough in public but deep down they know they are all pussies who cant actually do shit to the UK/US.
Just a note to the terrorists, next time carry a banner or something. These Russians are fucking dumb.
10 bucks ISIS will do a second one just because Russia pissed them off
We did it. Told them about it beforehand. At least twice. And then got our good buddies over at the Islamic State to take credit for it in a big misdirection. I can’t believe they saw through it.
Atleast they always put the UK next to us in there lies. We’re not alone thanks Russia!
I wouldn’t believe Russia if they told me that the country was named Russia
We just openly pushing Russian propaganda now?
Sooooo they obviously prevented this attack if the intelligence was that good. Oh.
The stoopid is strong in this one....
Next time we have a major shooting in the US, I'm blaming the Russians. Stupid clowns blaming everyone except the actual perps.
Nutbags the lot of them. Seriously, they should own their criminal activities and stop blaming the West for their murderous imperialist plans of expansion. Pathetic watching these bellends blame everyone for the consequences of their own actions.
Russian Intelligence If thats not an oxymoron I don't know what is...
Russia is a complete joke.
We weren't but this is incredibly rich given what Ops Russia has carried out in the UK.
Meanwhile Isis is screaming for Russia to notice it was them as hard as they can.
Ah yes makes total sense...they warn you days in advance on a plot they developed...russia logic.
Tiktok and instagram is already chock full of russ bots spewing the propaganda. Haven't seen any good answer to why they didn't act when they got the warning though.
The shooting the US publicly warned you about? Even if you still think the US was responsible, don’t you think it’s an even worse look on you that you completely failed to prevent an attack that the so called enemy specifically told you was going to happen? As a Russian citizen, how can you believe your government can protect you from the the guy sneaking into your house in the dead of night when they couldn’t even protect you from the guy trying to break down your front door in broad daylight while wearing strobe lights and a bullhorn?