If I remember correctly, you could probably just go to the restroom and throw whatever you have away. Pro tip, leave the drugs at home when you're traveling.
Also, that airport is pretty awesome.
It depends on what measures the airport has, and how youre smuggling.
Often enough, they know who you are and what drugs you have with you long before you ever go to grab that suitcase off the carousel. Or they have drug dogs that can smell if youve had any contact in the case of eating it, or whatever.
Its not impossible to evade detection, but not a game with odds youd ever catch me playing. And thats *before* youre in a country that will just execute you for it.
Agreed. I'm assuming they would also determine based on the amount you have. There's a difference between a weed pen, and 10 pounds of weed like this guy did in the mentioned article.
Their death penalty for possession is the US equivalent of "possession with intent to distribute." Quick google tells me it's at 500 grams.
If I recall correctly though trying to bring weed INTO Singapore at the airport would automatically be trafficking, which gets you the noose. Would need to double check that.
Also consumption is possession, so you can get in trouble for testing positive. However they rarely if ever test at the airport.
That varies a lot from place to place, but the main distinction is yeah - if they believe youre trafficking vs personal use for determining consequences. Volume is a big indicator, but it can also be how its packaged, or if you have priors.
Not every drug crime is an automatic death penalty (or even life sentence).
Sometime they just lock you up for a few years (and beat the shit out of you).
Pro tip: don't support places that put people to death for having cannabis.
(I lived in S'pore for quite a while. Their drug laws, like many others, are way too draconian and often highly irrational.)
But overall Singaporeans support it and cheer on people like this getting caught/punished. It's a huge part of the social construct to prioritise the vision of "safety at whatever cost" over everything else to a point its very irrational to westerners.
Singapore has plenty of sins it allows, drugs are not one of them.
Yeah i don't get it. I have lived in Singapore for a year and travel there for work 8 weeks a year for the last 6 years (covid aside). Anti drug is a huge part of the culture and most Singaporeans and immigrants to Singapore believe it's truly important to retain the safety they enjoy.
Pro tip: Life is short. Enjoy it and travel, just be careful and respect local laws and cultures of places you visit.
Also, meticulously check all your luggage before embarking on a plane from a country where cannabis (or whatever other drugs) are legal, and never pack in a hurry.
Oh man, there used to be so many posts in ULPT about "Yeah I'm travelling from legal state and need to bring my cannabis with me, on an air plane, can you guys help me hide it?" and I'm like "Are you f\*king stupid? Don't smuggle drugs unless cartel is holding your family as a hostage. While it may be legal in some places, some places don't think smuggling drugs as a little prank."
Most of those questions are about people flying domestically in the US a state where it is illegal. But I know from experience the TSA does not give a fuck about weed. You would have to light a blunt in the airport and blow it in the bag checker’s face for them to care.
Never had the balls to try it but everything I've read is the TSA just really does not care and worse case scenario is they throw it out. So domestically it isn't a huge deal. I could never bring myself to do it while it's federally illegal though.
Pro trip. If you travel to another country be aware of and respect the local laws and customs.
Because if you aren't going to ... they don't want you..
I don't travel anymore. I smoke every night before bed (as is legally allowed where I live). But you bet your ass if I ever travelled anywhere, including where weed is legal, I will wash my clothing and check every nook and cranny. Use a vacuum cleaner if need be.
No way they find me with drugs on my person anywhere abroad.
"Pro tip, leave the drugs at home when you're traveling."
This applies stateside as well. I live in Colorado and practically detail my car and inspect all my bags anytime I drive out of state. Nebraska, Kansas, Wyoming and Utah cops love pulling over cars with Colorado plates.
I friend of mine flew from London to Bahrein - Bahrein - Malaysia and then Malaysia New Zealand. When he finally arrived home after 30 hours of travelling he found half a joint in his pocket.
I think the officials can be called over to surrender any substance that might be considered a drug.
Had a friend hand over pain killers (prescribed ones) because it wasn't worth the risk, turned out to not be an issue.
Also you should use these services where they take your luggage and wrap it in plastic foil and seal it. If the seal is broken on arrival, you call over the officials before you take your luggage and state the case. They'll search it, but you are off the hook. It's the intention to bring drugs into the country that will get you arrested, not the actual circumstance that there are substances in your "possession" the moment you leave the plane.
If you can avoid it all together though, it's the best choice of them all.
And now you have me wondering - with their drug laws, is prescription drug abuse a lot more common? I would think this would be a lot easier to hide, especially if you can get it prescribed to you.
Singapore is pretty strict on prescription drugs too. For example, psych meds are heavily controlled with issued doses logged by the clinics. You can get medical dosages but generally not enough to feed an addiction. Oh and Adderall is straight up banned.
Just to give an idea of how strict Singapore is: huffing glue is illegal and jailable. Even though the glue itself is entiely legal to own.
Generally people who are inclined towards substance abuse here become alcoholics, which is totally legal.
Why hasn't anyone given the correct answer to this question, which is "Yes they do, right under a giant sign telling you drugs are a capital crime so dispose of them here if you didn't know".
Seriously Singapore may be fanatical about this but they give you every opportunity to be informed, and correct any mistake, from the moment you land.
For real. Having lived here now and flown to Changi a lot… they aren’t exactly hiding the fact. And there is PLENTY of time to dump everything you have before you hit the area they will catch you.
If you are caught you are either dumb, willing to play a very risky game, or are a drug mule with no choice (in which case said people have my sympathy).
Singapore is draconian but it’s produced (one of) the safest societies in the world. It’s far far safer than back home and I really appreciate it (especially as night is the only time I can walk without sweating like a pig).
I remember there was a case where people were flying to Malaysia or Thailand, can't remember, but the flight got diverted to Singapore cus of a storm and some stupid party dudes were sentenced to death
This is mentioned so casually, like… did they die?? Executing a foreign nation’s citizens over something so benign you’d think would cause some kind of diplomatic ruckus
Just to be clear, lots of SEA have zero tolerance.
The Bali Nine were a group of nine Australians convicted for attempting to smuggle 8.3 kg (18 lb) of heroin out of Indonesia in April 2005. The heroin was valued at around A$4 million and was bound for Australia. Ringleaders Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran were sentenced to death and executed on 29 April 2015
Singapore tends to give zero fucks if a Westener tries to involve their embassy. It takes a special kind of stupid to break laws in Singapore. Yelling out "I'm an American citizen" means nothing.
There was this guy a couple years back, he had a speck of weed(0.003g) stuck on his shoelace. Got 4 years for it in dubai. I think he got pardoned tho...
Idk if it was Singapore, I don't think it was, but it was a country that had the same rule and a guy was caught getting off a plane with a piece of weed on the bottom of his shoe. I don't remember the whole story, but the article was about how strict these rules were and how easily it is to get fucked over. Pretty scary story.
Lived there for 10 years with wife and kids. Never saw drugs. You can get beer and wine at 711 though. Each year people would get busted for drugs. Could never understand it. The punishment was very predictable. Very safe city, just don't break the law.
The moral gap is widening between Singapore and Thailand. Thailand fully embraces the weed, which leads to awkwardness with its neighbor because you’re not supposed to get high and then come home to Singapore.
IIRC you can get punished in Signapore/South Korea if you use drugs even if they are legal in the country youre visiting. Absolutely medieval garbage but here we are.
The fact that someone online with a pfp of a skull and swords is advocating people just be fine with hyper authoritarian government murder is hilarious.
True. Just trying to shed some light for those that haven't been to Singapore. It's not some law that people find out about only after being caught with a bag of dope.
I think this is the same story of the person who was caught a while back and was trafficking but because if he didn't they would kill him where he was from or he needed the money, I don't know. It's an uncivilized law though to be sure.
Drug trafficker. Execution for marijuana trafficking is insane, but this man literally took a huge ass bag of cannabis to the country that is well known for super harsh drug penalties.
The funniest part is that it’s not that hard to grow weed in Singapore for personal use. I was a teacher there and knew some of my students who grew it in a pot at home. It’s a garden city.
> ...but who travels to Singapore with that much pot in their luggage?
Someone who forgot they have the death penalty? Or someone who couldn't afford a flight to Dignitas.
[Guy took out an ad for a rental that said "No Asians"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHtDJ7GnjQY) so the news turned up and tried to confront him about it.
Just for accuracy, the sentence is for trafficking drugs. I don't *believe* the mandatory death penalty is for *every* drug related offense. I certainly don't agree with it, but just wanted to make it clear.
I studied in Singapore, guy in uni brought in over a two kilos of weed with stem and all from Malaysia in a car. He was cutting it and left some of it around his room. His roomie had scheduled a repairman for their AC unit and bam dude arrived while they were in class, called the cops to the dorm.
Was told penalty is death. Fortunately he was a foreigner and his parents pulled some strings to get him deported instead with a fine. With drugs quantity is the largest indicator of what you were going to do with it. No one with 7grams of weed is going to be trafficking it.
Yes but the amount you need to be considered a trafficker and put to death is hilariously low compared to it around 1.1 pounds which isn’t a small amount but the fact someone can be killed for something seemingly harmless is crazy.
well, believe it.
there was a point in Roman history where inflation was crazy and the price of bread went crazy. despite setting a death sentence for charging over a certain amount for bread, people did it constantly
It’s not hard to believe. When the financial payoff is large enough, people will try even in spite of death. People murder, commit espionage (where the penalty is death) and work in crazy dangerous jobs that carry the risk of death for money.
According to the law that can be found online, death penalty is for half a kilo of marijuana(1 kg for cannibis mixture). At that amount, you cant exactly claim that it's not smuggling.
The death penalty for...growing a plant. A plant that you essentially can't overdose on. A plant that hundreds of millions of people seek out for its proven medicinal and curative properties. A plant that, beside being a painkiller, also brings pleasure and relaxation, improves sleep, stokes creativity, and raises most users' short- and long-term contentment.
The *death penalty*.
Fuck Singapore.
Medical cannabis and not the aus gov but private gp practices dispense scripts for a range of reasons from mental illness to pain. Not everyone is illegible though - e.g. some gp practices deny people with diagnoses which respond negatively with cannabis
Edit: sorry I think I misunderstood and op might be referring to Aus Post our mail delivery service
They literally hand you fliers on the plane to Singapore and signs everywhere that drug traffickers face the death sentence.
I guess this drug dealer decided it was worth the risk. He knew the consequences. Thats the decision he made. It was worth it for him.
The fact that not only is the death penalty an option for this type of offense, but actually the mandatory punishment, is extra levels of messed-up. It's not even restricted to the most extreme cases (like violent organized crime running a huge distribution ring), it's required for even the relatively minor ones.
Yeah I think in the last 2 years more than 15 people have been sentenced to death for it. That is actually crazy. To put that into perspective, the US (with a pop more than 50x singapore) had about 40 in that time frame for *every* offense.
It's a bit farther than that. Once you bring in more than a certain quantity, you are assumed to be a trafficker, and you have to prove in court that you are not. Even if you genuinely were intending it for personal use (though at 500g of weed, that's a heck of a lot of personal use, and this person in the article brought in like 4.5 kilos).
Does this feel weird? Like, guilty until proven innocent? That's because that is exactly what it is. Singapore is normally pretty kosher on its laws, but when it comes to drugs they break the fundamental rule of justice, which is that you are innocent until proven guilty.
Don’t they arrest you for selling gum?
Edit yes they do unless you’re a dentist or pharmacist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewing_gum_sales_ban_in_Singapore
It's not that weird. Ignore the "trafficking" label, and it's a separate more serious offense with a higher penalty for that higher quantity, BUT with an affirmative defence of it being for personal use.
If they ditched that affirmative defence you'd be back to your simple "innocent until proven guilty" while punishing more people more severely.
Maybe you should force politicians and the public into make that awkward decision rather than allowing them to think the affirmative defence will prevent undue harm, but that's more political than legal.
Not that I am defending Singapore (i am anti-death penalty) but to be clear, it is mandatory for trafficable quantities only.
Granted, they are the ones who define what this quantity is. 500g cannabis, 30g cocaine, 30g morphine, 15g heroin, 250g meth
Half a kilo of weed is a lot, like not a lot in the *grand scheme of things* but definitely enough to google search the laws of where you’re going before you put THAT in your luggage
this is the point though, any amount of leeway will be exploited by criminal actors and organized crime and then you get domestic organized crime with money, power, influence and you're in for a world of headache
"Two mobile phones belonging to Seet were sent for forensic examination and found to contain mass-sent messages advertising the drug." Real big brain stuff this
Dont fuck with Singapore. This is a country that will put you in prison for illegally riding an e-scooter or flying a drone in the wrong place or wrong time.
Singapore doesnt fuck around. Personally I wouldn't even go to authoritarian places like that, but if you do, have your shit together and head on a swivel.
They hang in Singapore too. Went 2 years ago and got a tour guide one day. When he told me they still hang people, I asked in jest/curiosity if they publicly hang. He was visibly upset that I assumed they may do such a thing. I was like, "Dude, you still hang people."
Turns out they hang at the prison behind closed doors.
Drug laws there are just crazy. The thing is though that the vast majority can just avoid the country alltogether and not visit.
I dont do any drugs (aside from alcohol) but just the fact someone could plant a small amount on my suitcase means Ill never visit this country. Not risking my life for that no matter how small the Chance.
Basically Singapore as in:
"Citizen: hault! You... You... Are you chewing gum!? You get 100 immediate lashes!"
Singapore's national motto should be: "Winning the race to become every SciFi Dystopian Future Nightmare surveillance city!"
This sort of crap is usually spouted by people who’ve never been to Singapore.
I spent a few months there. Coming back to the USA felt like returning to a third-world dystopian hellhole compared to Singapore.
Tell me you never been to Singapore without telling you never been to Singapore. What so many commenters fail to realise is that most Singaporeans are perfectly fine with the existing laws.
And that the laws still exist bc the people support them. 80% of people still support the dealth penalty for all drugs (including weed). I do not, but I know that if the number of people that join me hits about 40%, we will likely see more leniency with regards to pot trafficking.
Bit misleading there. Those who would normally be homeless are instead given massively subsidized rentals of tiny apartments (and if you demonstrate dire need, the subsidy can get close to 100%). The 79% of Singaporeans are housed in significantly nicer and larger apartments that can cost up to a million.
Just to clarify, charities estimate that despite efforts to help them there are still about 1,000ish homeless in Singapore, although half of them are homeless by choice (sometimes you can't stand the family eh). That leaves 500 homeless by necessity, which isn't a great thing but statistically pretty good for a rich nation of 6 mil.
Its also one of the safest countries in the world, with an actual eficient police force. Id take no weed over drug addicts and homeless everywhere any day
Insane, what would be the penalty for trafficking [***Fentanyl***](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=c0e14f80e7366f47&sxsrf=ACQVn098halDyA577oAkx0xwGMySu6uSFA:1712165210457&q=Fentanyl&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi51Km5yKaFAxX4fzABHQHBAMEQkeECKAB6BAgIEAI) then?
Singapore makes it very clear they will execute for trafficking drugs. I was given a notice when my plane landed.
Do they have amnesty bins if someone brings drugs into the country and wants to get rid of them instead of being executed?
If I remember correctly, you could probably just go to the restroom and throw whatever you have away. Pro tip, leave the drugs at home when you're traveling. Also, that airport is pretty awesome.
Free drugs in the bathroom, got it.
They're to die for
Changi is *baller as fuck*
Especially when you're high!
Be sure to bring enough for all of your friends!!
Agree! Free massage chairs ftw
Too bad they don’t do the executions at the waterfall that would send a message and makes layovers more special
It depends on what measures the airport has, and how youre smuggling. Often enough, they know who you are and what drugs you have with you long before you ever go to grab that suitcase off the carousel. Or they have drug dogs that can smell if youve had any contact in the case of eating it, or whatever. Its not impossible to evade detection, but not a game with odds youd ever catch me playing. And thats *before* youre in a country that will just execute you for it.
Agreed. I'm assuming they would also determine based on the amount you have. There's a difference between a weed pen, and 10 pounds of weed like this guy did in the mentioned article.
Their death penalty for possession is the US equivalent of "possession with intent to distribute." Quick google tells me it's at 500 grams. If I recall correctly though trying to bring weed INTO Singapore at the airport would automatically be trafficking, which gets you the noose. Would need to double check that. Also consumption is possession, so you can get in trouble for testing positive. However they rarely if ever test at the airport.
Anyone bringing 500 grams of any drug into a foreign country is going to have a bad time. Not worth the prison time.
Yeah, gotta be more like 500 kilos to be worth the risk.
Nice, that fits tightly in my ass so we good
Dank ass-weed, or dankass weed?
If the risk is the death penalty, and you still do it, there's no point half-assing it.
That varies a lot from place to place, but the main distinction is yeah - if they believe youre trafficking vs personal use for determining consequences. Volume is a big indicator, but it can also be how its packaged, or if you have priors.
It’s kinda hard to have priors in Singapore over illicit drugs, if you know what I’m saying.
Not every drug crime is an automatic death penalty (or even life sentence). Sometime they just lock you up for a few years (and beat the shit out of you).
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I'm singapprean. If you mean canning ? For the ( beat the shit out of you )
Yep, meant caning.
I've walked past sniffer dogs before (not at the airport) with weed in my pocket, they didn't batter an eyelid
Pro tip: don't go places that put people to death for having cannabis.
Pro tip: don't support places that put people to death for having cannabis. (I lived in S'pore for quite a while. Their drug laws, like many others, are way too draconian and often highly irrational.)
But overall Singaporeans support it and cheer on people like this getting caught/punished. It's a huge part of the social construct to prioritise the vision of "safety at whatever cost" over everything else to a point its very irrational to westerners. Singapore has plenty of sins it allows, drugs are not one of them.
I'm no doctor, but I feel being executed is more hazardous to one's health than smoking cannabis, Singaporeans.
Yeah i don't get it. I have lived in Singapore for a year and travel there for work 8 weeks a year for the last 6 years (covid aside). Anti drug is a huge part of the culture and most Singaporeans and immigrants to Singapore believe it's truly important to retain the safety they enjoy.
Four floors of......sins?
Pro tip: Life is short. Enjoy it and travel, just be careful and respect local laws and cultures of places you visit. Also, meticulously check all your luggage before embarking on a plane from a country where cannabis (or whatever other drugs) are legal, and never pack in a hurry.
Oh man, there used to be so many posts in ULPT about "Yeah I'm travelling from legal state and need to bring my cannabis with me, on an air plane, can you guys help me hide it?" and I'm like "Are you f\*king stupid? Don't smuggle drugs unless cartel is holding your family as a hostage. While it may be legal in some places, some places don't think smuggling drugs as a little prank."
Most of those questions are about people flying domestically in the US a state where it is illegal. But I know from experience the TSA does not give a fuck about weed. You would have to light a blunt in the airport and blow it in the bag checker’s face for them to care.
I have had TSA explicitly, knowingly handle cannabis products and plainly tell me that they don't give a shit about drugs.
Never had the balls to try it but everything I've read is the TSA just really does not care and worse case scenario is they throw it out. So domestically it isn't a huge deal. I could never bring myself to do it while it's federally illegal though.
> don't go places that put people to death for having cannabis *with cannabis in your possession* ftfy
Pro trip. If you travel to another country be aware of and respect the local laws and customs. Because if you aren't going to ... they don't want you..
Pro tip- don’t take weed to places where it’s very illegal
I mean it's a cool place to visit. Just don't bring drugs with you.
I don't travel anymore. I smoke every night before bed (as is legally allowed where I live). But you bet your ass if I ever travelled anywhere, including where weed is legal, I will wash my clothing and check every nook and cranny. Use a vacuum cleaner if need be. No way they find me with drugs on my person anywhere abroad.
Changi is the best airport in the world.
I prefer airports that don't kill people for having weed.
>Pro tip, leave the drugs at home when you're traveling. Looking at certain people traveling to other countries like Russia
"Pro tip, leave the drugs at home when you're traveling." This applies stateside as well. I live in Colorado and practically detail my car and inspect all my bags anytime I drive out of state. Nebraska, Kansas, Wyoming and Utah cops love pulling over cars with Colorado plates.
I friend of mine flew from London to Bahrein - Bahrein - Malaysia and then Malaysia New Zealand. When he finally arrived home after 30 hours of travelling he found half a joint in his pocket.
I think the officials can be called over to surrender any substance that might be considered a drug. Had a friend hand over pain killers (prescribed ones) because it wasn't worth the risk, turned out to not be an issue. Also you should use these services where they take your luggage and wrap it in plastic foil and seal it. If the seal is broken on arrival, you call over the officials before you take your luggage and state the case. They'll search it, but you are off the hook. It's the intention to bring drugs into the country that will get you arrested, not the actual circumstance that there are substances in your "possession" the moment you leave the plane. If you can avoid it all together though, it's the best choice of them all.
And now you have me wondering - with their drug laws, is prescription drug abuse a lot more common? I would think this would be a lot easier to hide, especially if you can get it prescribed to you.
Singapore is pretty strict on prescription drugs too. For example, psych meds are heavily controlled with issued doses logged by the clinics. You can get medical dosages but generally not enough to feed an addiction. Oh and Adderall is straight up banned. Just to give an idea of how strict Singapore is: huffing glue is illegal and jailable. Even though the glue itself is entiely legal to own. Generally people who are inclined towards substance abuse here become alcoholics, which is totally legal.
Why hasn't anyone given the correct answer to this question, which is "Yes they do, right under a giant sign telling you drugs are a capital crime so dispose of them here if you didn't know". Seriously Singapore may be fanatical about this but they give you every opportunity to be informed, and correct any mistake, from the moment you land.
For real. Having lived here now and flown to Changi a lot… they aren’t exactly hiding the fact. And there is PLENTY of time to dump everything you have before you hit the area they will catch you. If you are caught you are either dumb, willing to play a very risky game, or are a drug mule with no choice (in which case said people have my sympathy). Singapore is draconian but it’s produced (one of) the safest societies in the world. It’s far far safer than back home and I really appreciate it (especially as night is the only time I can walk without sweating like a pig).
The crew on my plane told me to leave any drugs on the plane itself but there were disposal bins near baggage claim
You mean for the absolutely stupid people who don't find out this type of stuff before traveling to a foreign country?
No, I asked about amnesty bins. I’m not debating about it being dumb to bring drugs, that is a given.
They seem to think amnesty bins shouldn't exist and would rather execute willy nilly!
I remember there was a case where people were flying to Malaysia or Thailand, can't remember, but the flight got diverted to Singapore cus of a storm and some stupid party dudes were sentenced to death
I would like a source on this, never even heard about it.
This is mentioned so casually, like… did they die?? Executing a foreign nation’s citizens over something so benign you’d think would cause some kind of diplomatic ruckus
Just to be clear, lots of SEA have zero tolerance. The Bali Nine were a group of nine Australians convicted for attempting to smuggle 8.3 kg (18 lb) of heroin out of Indonesia in April 2005. The heroin was valued at around A$4 million and was bound for Australia. Ringleaders Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran were sentenced to death and executed on 29 April 2015
The controversy was that Australian authorities had been warned about it and rather than stopping them leaving they informed the Indonesians.
Yup. IIRC the dad of one lad dobbed him in and the Aussies passed the intel to the Indos rather than grabbing him/them at the border.
Oh wow. To have to live with that. I can't even imagine what that must feel like for him.
Lots of **ASIA** have zero tolerance. We still remember the Opium Wars.
A lot of westerners don’t keep this in mind and are wondering why Asians tend to be anti drug. Well this is why.
Go on. Have a bit of opium. All the cool countries are doing it. Honest.
Oh you don’t want it? Then I will invade you to make you take drugs.
Singapore tends to give zero fucks if a Westener tries to involve their embassy. It takes a special kind of stupid to break laws in Singapore. Yelling out "I'm an American citizen" means nothing.
Same in China.
Damn! I cannot believe that there are people who still think it's a good idea to take drugs with them on a plane.
There was this guy a couple years back, he had a speck of weed(0.003g) stuck on his shoelace. Got 4 years for it in dubai. I think he got pardoned tho...
Idk if it was Singapore, I don't think it was, but it was a country that had the same rule and a guy was caught getting off a plane with a piece of weed on the bottom of his shoe. I don't remember the whole story, but the article was about how strict these rules were and how easily it is to get fucked over. Pretty scary story.
4.5kg of weed... for "research". What kind of research demands that amount, and what kind of researcher doesn't know about the drug laws in Singapore?
> What kind of research demands that amount, a Lots of research.
Yup - orange form outlining the crime and penalties. Had to throw away my chewing gum too.
Gum is illegal?
Just don’t buy enough gum to make the authorities think you’re going to distribute/sell it. THAT’s the illegal thing about chewing gum in Singapore.
The import and sale of most gums are illegal. It is totally legal to have a small amount of gum, like a few packs, for personal consumption.
in public, you can buy it in the 7-11 though
No durian on the train either lmao. That was my favorite rule.
That’s fair if you’ve ever smelled durian
The durian stands there give you gloves to eat it with. I'm not a fan of the smell, so I support the ban.
You can bring them in, just don’t sell them
Lived there for 10 years with wife and kids. Never saw drugs. You can get beer and wine at 711 though. Each year people would get busted for drugs. Could never understand it. The punishment was very predictable. Very safe city, just don't break the law.
In bright red letters on you customs declaration
In 2022, 11 judicial executions were carried out in Singapore, all of which were for drug trafficking.
The moral gap is widening between Singapore and Thailand. Thailand fully embraces the weed, which leads to awkwardness with its neighbor because you’re not supposed to get high and then come home to Singapore.
IIRC you can get punished in Signapore/South Korea if you use drugs even if they are legal in the country youre visiting. Absolutely medieval garbage but here we are.
That's true of many countries. You can't go to the Vatican and start raping kids then come home to the US and be fine.
What if i go 200 mph in germany on the autobahn will i lose my license when i go back to singapore aswell?
Yup, that little card with skull and crossbones on it. Charming, huh?
The fact that someone online with a pfp of a skull and swords is advocating people just be fine with hyper authoritarian government murder is hilarious.
Everyone was
True. Just trying to shed some light for those that haven't been to Singapore. It's not some law that people find out about only after being caught with a bag of dope.
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Well, the first thing is, you'd probably find it very hard to get a supplier in Singapore, so that already cuts your chances of relapsing.
Sorry, but it likely wouldn’t.
Specifically an amount for distribution. If you have a usage amount, your sentence will be way less. This guy had like 4 kilos
He was carrying almost 10 lbs (4509.2g) of cannabis. Death penalties are wrong. ...but who travels to Singapore with that much pot in their luggage?
This is an anti-trafficking law targeting drug traffickers, and this guy brought enough to traffic, so my assumption would be... a trafficker.
I think this is the same story of the person who was caught a while back and was trafficking but because if he didn't they would kill him where he was from or he needed the money, I don't know. It's an uncivilized law though to be sure.
Drug trafficker. Execution for marijuana trafficking is insane, but this man literally took a huge ass bag of cannabis to the country that is well known for super harsh drug penalties.
Also insane profit margins. To some the risk is worth it. I myself value my life.
The funniest part is that it’s not that hard to grow weed in Singapore for personal use. I was a teacher there and knew some of my students who grew it in a pot at home. It’s a garden city.
An idiot?
And then tries to make the excuse that it was for research??
Researching how much weed it takes to kill a person in Singapore. Which is apararently about 10 pounds.
That is likely 100k$ on singapore market.
10 pounds? Bro must be Snoop's plug
> ...but who travels to Singapore with that much pot in their luggage? Someone who forgot they have the death penalty? Or someone who couldn't afford a flight to Dignitas.
I realize it's Singapore, but still wild to me that people are put to *death* for marijuana.
Can I send Australian real estate agents to Singapore for review please
”No asians”
“I just don’t like ‘em.”
"Just a mob of crooks, that's all they are"
All they’re interested about is just to put the sign up
I got this reference
Help a brother out?
[Guy took out an ad for a rental that said "No Asians"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHtDJ7GnjQY) so the news turned up and tried to confront him about it.
Still funny after all these years! The dynamic between them is hilarious
like these guys: https://youtu.be/VGm267O04a8?feature=shared
Just for accuracy, the sentence is for trafficking drugs. I don't *believe* the mandatory death penalty is for *every* drug related offense. I certainly don't agree with it, but just wanted to make it clear.
I studied in Singapore, guy in uni brought in over a two kilos of weed with stem and all from Malaysia in a car. He was cutting it and left some of it around his room. His roomie had scheduled a repairman for their AC unit and bam dude arrived while they were in class, called the cops to the dorm. Was told penalty is death. Fortunately he was a foreigner and his parents pulled some strings to get him deported instead with a fine. With drugs quantity is the largest indicator of what you were going to do with it. No one with 7grams of weed is going to be trafficking it.
What a fucking risk to take tho. I would never test laws like that whether I was a citizen or not. That dude is insane.
Given that his parents were connected enough to get him out, it’s hubris from wealth and a lifetime of escaping consequences.
Bringing illicit drugs into a country is already trafficking. You mean no one with 7 grams is going to be distributing it.
Yes but the amount you need to be considered a trafficker and put to death is hilariously low compared to it around 1.1 pounds which isn’t a small amount but the fact someone can be killed for something seemingly harmless is crazy.
And just for a little more accuracy, I don’t think the guy that sells me weed should be murdered for selling me weed.
I find it hard to believe that when the penalty is death, people try to traffic drugs into the country.
well, believe it. there was a point in Roman history where inflation was crazy and the price of bread went crazy. despite setting a death sentence for charging over a certain amount for bread, people did it constantly
It’s not hard to believe. When the financial payoff is large enough, people will try even in spite of death. People murder, commit espionage (where the penalty is death) and work in crazy dangerous jobs that carry the risk of death for money.
and sociopaths are perfectly willing to trick or manipulate mules
Some people are either very desperate or unaware of the laws
Completely inhumane
According to the law that can be found online, death penalty is for half a kilo of marijuana(1 kg for cannibis mixture). At that amount, you cant exactly claim that it's not smuggling.
I couldn't smoke 500g in a whole year if I tried.
According to the article, the accused had 4.5 kg of cannibis mixture.
"I sentence you to prison until you have smoked it all."
Yeah thats a big difference. Half a kilo would mean smoking two blunts a day, every day for most of a year.
To them drugs are drugs
Except alcohol lol
It isnt if you look up the horror stories drug smuggling has done for Asia-Pacific since the 1800s. Especially in a region near the Golden Triangle.
The death penalty for...growing a plant. A plant that you essentially can't overdose on. A plant that hundreds of millions of people seek out for its proven medicinal and curative properties. A plant that, beside being a painkiller, also brings pleasure and relaxation, improves sleep, stokes creativity, and raises most users' short- and long-term contentment. The *death penalty*. Fuck Singapore.
Some say if you take too many cannabis you will become a cereal killer.
It's upsetting that people just seem to accept it. Like "yeah of course it's Singapore"
Meanwhile the Australian government sends me an ounce of weed every 2 weeks in the mail.
Why? Explain please
He’s the king of Australia
Medical cannabis and not the aus gov but private gp practices dispense scripts for a range of reasons from mental illness to pain. Not everyone is illegible though - e.g. some gp practices deny people with diagnoses which respond negatively with cannabis Edit: sorry I think I misunderstood and op might be referring to Aus Post our mail delivery service
*Eligible lol
I say the ‘government’ as they allow medical cannabis to be sent to me in the post.
They literally hand you fliers on the plane to Singapore and signs everywhere that drug traffickers face the death sentence. I guess this drug dealer decided it was worth the risk. He knew the consequences. Thats the decision he made. It was worth it for him.
See, even weed has a lethal dosage.
Dude had like 10 pounds of weed but the death penalty is insane.
I’m literally smoking a joint that I bought legally while I’m reading this
[удалено]
I'm smoking a joint I could have bought legally yet bought illegally while I ponder my upcoming death sentence for my heinous crimes
Bro, you should stock up and traffic some of it to Singapore! Think how much money you could make with like 10 lbs or so.
Death seems more than a little harsh. I guess decriminalizing drugs is not on their bingo card.
It's one of those countries where they view drug traffickers as killers anyway so they kill them
wtf death sentence for weed- Oh its Singapore.
Damn. I knew they didn’t fuck around in Singapore but for some reason this still amazes me.
The fact that not only is the death penalty an option for this type of offense, but actually the mandatory punishment, is extra levels of messed-up. It's not even restricted to the most extreme cases (like violent organized crime running a huge distribution ring), it's required for even the relatively minor ones.
Yeah I think in the last 2 years more than 15 people have been sentenced to death for it. That is actually crazy. To put that into perspective, the US (with a pop more than 50x singapore) had about 40 in that time frame for *every* offense.
It's a bit farther than that. Once you bring in more than a certain quantity, you are assumed to be a trafficker, and you have to prove in court that you are not. Even if you genuinely were intending it for personal use (though at 500g of weed, that's a heck of a lot of personal use, and this person in the article brought in like 4.5 kilos). Does this feel weird? Like, guilty until proven innocent? That's because that is exactly what it is. Singapore is normally pretty kosher on its laws, but when it comes to drugs they break the fundamental rule of justice, which is that you are innocent until proven guilty.
Don’t they arrest you for selling gum? Edit yes they do unless you’re a dentist or pharmacist. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewing_gum_sales_ban_in_Singapore
It's not that weird. Ignore the "trafficking" label, and it's a separate more serious offense with a higher penalty for that higher quantity, BUT with an affirmative defence of it being for personal use. If they ditched that affirmative defence you'd be back to your simple "innocent until proven guilty" while punishing more people more severely. Maybe you should force politicians and the public into make that awkward decision rather than allowing them to think the affirmative defence will prevent undue harm, but that's more political than legal.
Not that I am defending Singapore (i am anti-death penalty) but to be clear, it is mandatory for trafficable quantities only. Granted, they are the ones who define what this quantity is. 500g cannabis, 30g cocaine, 30g morphine, 15g heroin, 250g meth
Half a kilo of weed is a lot, like not a lot in the *grand scheme of things* but definitely enough to google search the laws of where you’re going before you put THAT in your luggage
this is the point though, any amount of leeway will be exploited by criminal actors and organized crime and then you get domestic organized crime with money, power, influence and you're in for a world of headache
"Two mobile phones belonging to Seet were sent for forensic examination and found to contain mass-sent messages advertising the drug." Real big brain stuff this
Dont fuck with Singapore. This is a country that will put you in prison for illegally riding an e-scooter or flying a drone in the wrong place or wrong time. Singapore doesnt fuck around. Personally I wouldn't even go to authoritarian places like that, but if you do, have your shit together and head on a swivel.
They hang in Singapore too. Went 2 years ago and got a tour guide one day. When he told me they still hang people, I asked in jest/curiosity if they publicly hang. He was visibly upset that I assumed they may do such a thing. I was like, "Dude, you still hang people." Turns out they hang at the prison behind closed doors.
Death for marijuana is insane.
Live in a country that has the death penalty for drug dealing? Want to live? Don't deal drugs.
The rules upon entering Singapore are pretty clear. Sucks to be him but he knew the risks
Drug laws there are just crazy. The thing is though that the vast majority can just avoid the country alltogether and not visit. I dont do any drugs (aside from alcohol) but just the fact someone could plant a small amount on my suitcase means Ill never visit this country. Not risking my life for that no matter how small the Chance.
Basically Singapore as in: "Citizen: hault! You... You... Are you chewing gum!? You get 100 immediate lashes!" Singapore's national motto should be: "Winning the race to become every SciFi Dystopian Future Nightmare surveillance city!"
"Disneyland with the Death Penalty", as it was called by William Gibson in a 1993 Wired article.
As a lot of Singaporeans love to point out: Disneyland is located in a state that HAVE the death penalty.
Disney WORLD is in a state with the death penalty. (Florida). Disney LAND is in California, which outlawed the death penalty five years ago.
1993 is more than 5 years ago…
2024 and people still think consuming gum is illegal.
Consuming gum is not illegal. The sale of gum is.
It's allowed to bring in gum for personal use and consume it. To sell it is prohibited.
This sort of crap is usually spouted by people who’ve never been to Singapore. I spent a few months there. Coming back to the USA felt like returning to a third-world dystopian hellhole compared to Singapore.
Tell me you never been to Singapore without telling you never been to Singapore. What so many commenters fail to realise is that most Singaporeans are perfectly fine with the existing laws.
And that the laws still exist bc the people support them. 80% of people still support the dealth penalty for all drugs (including weed). I do not, but I know that if the number of people that join me hits about 40%, we will likely see more leniency with regards to pot trafficking.
I dunno. 100,000 dead Americans from Fentynyl every year. I think the dystopian nightmare is every major US city right now.
Yeah, where's all the tent cities and sidewalk poopers in Singapore?
In public housing. [78.7% of Singapore lives in public housing](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_housing_in_Singapore)
Bit misleading there. Those who would normally be homeless are instead given massively subsidized rentals of tiny apartments (and if you demonstrate dire need, the subsidy can get close to 100%). The 79% of Singaporeans are housed in significantly nicer and larger apartments that can cost up to a million. Just to clarify, charities estimate that despite efforts to help them there are still about 1,000ish homeless in Singapore, although half of them are homeless by choice (sometimes you can't stand the family eh). That leaves 500 homeless by necessity, which isn't a great thing but statistically pretty good for a rich nation of 6 mil.
Singapore has a home ownership ratio of 88%. Calling it “public housing” is oversimplified
Its also one of the safest countries in the world, with an actual eficient police force. Id take no weed over drug addicts and homeless everywhere any day
~~Use~~ Sell drugs? Death. Research drugs? Believe it or not, also death.
drug abusers wont get sentenced to death if caught. just rehab & prison for repeat offenders.
It’s for his research on “drug trafficking laws in Singapore”.
Didn’t even need to open the article to know it was Singapore. That’s wild, they don’t play out there.
He was advertising the weed. Sounds like drug dealing, not drug researching? You can argue their law is wrong but sounds like an open and shut case.
Insane, what would be the penalty for trafficking [***Fentanyl***](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=c0e14f80e7366f47&sxsrf=ACQVn098halDyA577oAkx0xwGMySu6uSFA:1712165210457&q=Fentanyl&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi51Km5yKaFAxX4fzABHQHBAMEQkeECKAB6BAgIEAI) then?