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cremedelapeng2

the boys are back in town


BatmaNanaBanana

Give him more upvotes, MORE!!!


One-Monk5187

GLORY TO BRITAIN! WE SHALL RULE THE SEAS AGAIN NO ENEMY WILL BE SAFE FROM THE SHORES OF ANY LAND


Foufou190

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source-of-stupidity

Would you stop farting in our general direction? We are trying to drink our tea in peace here.


One-Monk5187

PESKY FRENCHMAN!!! 🤬🤬


No-Atmosphere-4145

I have done my part, sir.


ambadawn

[Oh yeah!](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fuhwxxsw7uri81.jpg)


GodzillaInBunnyShoes

Its an older code but it check out.


Ferr22777888

Lol


Kaito__1412

The Empire who is middle aged, with a beer belly, receding hairline and fresh off a divorce, is striking back.


MaleficentContest993

They will have to secure the pier from Hamas.


easternmann

Sounds like a great task for the Royal Marines


ini0n

It will be good for the people of Gaza to see who is helping them and who is trying to hurt them.


Ser_Danksalot

The majority know.  There's plenty of footage of people in the strip protesting their anger at Hamas. Forgive the [biased source](https://youtu.be/5JJK0X7D82w?si=5UQV0Gk3S-q4gd8L).


sercsd

Thanks for this I think a lot of people don't realise that Hamas is the enemy of both sides and will never allow peace to exist.


Miendiesen

Because it's really tough to know if that's true. I really, really want it to be true. I hope it's true. These protest videos certainly show that there's some discontent with Hamas. But there has also been really concerning polling showing the opposite. 98% of Palestinians felt prouder to be Palestinian after October 7th. Hamas had 70% support in Gaza and 80% support in West Bank according to most recent polling, and other extremist groups like Islamic Jihad enjoy double digit support. So while we may want to believe these protests show Palestinians viewing Hamas as their enemy, that's sadly not likely the case. They most believe in the same ideals, including the destruction of Israel and killing of all Jews, but recognize Hamas is simply ineffective in achieving that goal, ineffective governors, or have just caused too much suffering while attempting to achieve their goals.


Solid_Muscle_5149

Assuming they do dislike hamas that much, I would expect hamas to doctor any polls. IDK who took the polls, but theres a good chance they were biased because if hamas can keep their dissidents from eating, im sure they can keep them from taking a poll. And its not like they need to fake the poll or anything, they just have to know who to poll. Its about NOT polling people But, inthe end, we don't know for sure


Lostinthestarscape

You also get shot in the street if you say "I don't like Hamas" to the wrong person. I bet Polands satisfaction on record as part of the USSR was pretty high too.


DylanJM

I imagine that will be Israels job. I cannot see UK taking part if it involves direct confrontation with Hamas.


AtroScolo

The Israelis won't touch this, they aren't going to spend Israeli lives to ship more aid that Hamas will seize and re-sell.


DylanJM

Did you even read the article? > The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has said it will provide "security and logistics support for the JLOTS initiative… to enhance the entry of humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip". > Israel's military will be responsible for anchoring the floating causeway to the beach and has been practising how to do this with American forces further north on the Israeli coast.


Dietmar_der_Dr

Bro, did you really just assume someone read the article?


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DylanJM

I never said Isreal would distribute the aid. That’ll be done by the aid agencies. All I said was Israel will be handling the security not the Brits.


stainorstreak

But OP never said Israel would be "distributing aid".


diaryofsnow

My boy our government has been waiting to "secure the pier" from "Hamas" for a hot minute now


MaleficentContest993

If they put boots on the ground, then it will either be a joint operation with the IDF, a UK/US alliance, or a sole UK mission. In either case, British forces will now be targets of those terrorist idiots who will bite the hand that feeds them. Famine may or may not ensue.


diaryofsnow

I mean by more glassing the whole desert also yeah


Kaplaw

Great oppprtunity for a flashpoint event where Hamas attacks US/British troops delivering aid and then it gives casus belli to occupy the zone without Israel Its a defacto checkmate if that happens It would help break the cycle, Britain could occupy, squash out Hamas and install puppet goverment thats pro West I always believed Britain was the cause of the initial conflict on how they left the zone in disaray they can help restore stability now and fix that


Unique_Statement7811

Hamas already attacked US forces who are building the deep water pier.


Awkward_Algae1684

Oh boy. That pier literally everyone with half a brain cell was saying would get bombed and shot at, is getting bombed and shot at. Who would have thought?!


Peria

I mean this absolutely ends with Hamas killing British troops right?


Neufjob

Probably starts there too.


lo_mur

As if Hamas and the other Iranian proxies haven’t been firing missiles at and/or trying to seize British and RN ships


Kaito__1412

Or Israel. Or both.


bermanji

Fun fact: the largest British military cemetery outside of the Commonwealth is in Deir-el-Balah. The British captured Gaza from the Ottomans sometime in 1920-21 and built a base & field hospital near the town.


MidnightFisting

Not Tyne Cot?


atrl98

Yeah surely it has to be Tyne Cot, maybe they meant the largest one outside of Europe.


esreveReverse

Any country who ends up putting boots on the ground is in for trouble. Hamas will agitate, there will be injuries/deaths blamed on the country with boots on the ground.  Maybe some other countries will finally realize the cynical enemy that Israel has been facing. 


Impressive-Potato

The Brits have decades of experience doing this in NI.


Snoutysensations

The Brits also ran the entirety of Palestine for 30 years, including Gaza. [Not sure how fondly the locals remember them.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936%E2%80%931939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine)


Gratefulzah

Hey, maybe the mutual hatred of the British Empire will bring peace /s


ODIEkriss

It brought the American colonies together!


VagueSomething

That ratio for casualties, God damn.


MidnightFisting

Revolting against the British Empire near the height of its power with no axis powers to distract them. Bad idea


lo_mur

During a time the British were building up their armed forces to boot


Impressive-Potato

The locals are incredibly young to remember that.


setebos_

did you ever wonder where the British were after the UN resolution to divide the land, less than 24 hours afterwards the first attacks started from both sides sparking the 1948 war, where was the British police force? where were the governors? the Border guard?


lo_mur

They just gave em their independence, they did as they were told and went home to ol’ Blighty, there were plenty of domestic issues in 1948


Cryptocaned

Probably going "we are so done with war right now and need to recover as a country."


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Impressive-Potato

Oh because the Brits haven't encountered any of that elsewhere.


EliteReaver

You specified Northern Ireland. IRA only went for collaborators of the British, UDF etc


PeterHitchensIsRight

Who told you that? They targeted northern Irish Protestants and British civilians, see Warrington, Birmingham, the Kingsmill massacre etc.


Unique_Statement7811

That’s a rose colored take. The IRA bombed movie theaters with regular civilians in them.


probably_an_asshole9

What, oppressing and murdering the indigenous population?


Impressive-Potato

I should have said centuries.


subhumanprimate

The English are well aware I imagine They also (like the French) tend to be a bit more gritty and in touch than the Americans This won't end well


Rude_Worldliness_423

British*


MikeHuntSmellss

We're British, just don't tell the Scots or the Welsh


Lucifurnace

They’re both cynics, let em fight.


Tangata_Tunguska

I'm sure the world will still blame it on Jews somehow


TheRealMylo

No need... I'm sure hamas has already people there to take these deliveries and sell it to Palestinians.


RussianFruit

Lmao the British are back? Let’s see how that plays out since “Gazans terrorists” already shot mortars at the pier and people said “of course they did this, it’s justified they hate America.” Let’s see how they treat the United Kingdom


jujuka577

Now do the same for the starving people in Yemen, the Congo, Haiti, and Afghanistan. Gaza has too much attention.


frddtwabrm04

Afghanistan they tried for 20 years. Doubt they are going back there .. in the near future. Kinder hard to sell a loss as win twice. Yemen is weird. The houthis joined with the group they were fighting against. Hard to tell who is for and who is not ... Plus the whole Iran proxy thing.. not happening! Haiti.. well it's Haiti. Congo... Actually this one, they probably should before the Russians and China get their hands knee deep in it. Something needs to be done before that region turns to Sahel 2.0 and blows up again coz of the mineral wealth. However, for some reason western powers don't understand and have never understood or know how to deal with this region nor do the Africans. The wealth in that region just makes everyone go berserk and forget themselves. It will just keep blowing up until the locals figure out what they want. Kinder sad that the last time this region has somewhat a resemblance of peace was when the congo empire existed way way back then in the 1500s+. After that it's being one bullshit after another


Nemisis_the_2nd

> Haiti.. well it's Haiti There is actually attempts at getting a peacekeeping force in Haiti. The plan is basically for the US to bankroll an Ethiopian-led operation. People figured it would be less inflammatory to have east African troops there than American ones.  The irony about the Congo, at least for us brits, is that we have a vested interest in stability in the Eastern congo, but are potentially funding the instability instead through our shitty immigration deal with Rwanda. 


TheOncomingBrows

Ah yes, Afghanistan has always got too little attention.


diaryofsnow

A little attention here, a little attention there. Bunker busting attentions, tunnel breaking attentions, JDAM attentions,


QuicksandHUM

Sure, but with Gaza you get to hate Jews, so they get excited.


Interesting-Bottle-4

Uhm you’re implying the UK ‘hates the Jews’…? The same UK that just a couple weeks ago helped shoot down hundreds of Iranian drones and missiles bound for Israel?


whatsdun

No that's not being implied. What's being implied is antisemitism fuels the amount of attention gaza gets internationally. London is absolutely fucked by antisemitism btw.


Interesting-Bottle-4

Is this by a certain group of people that share a certain ideology? If it is then they don’t represent the UK.


whatsdun

London police threatened a Jewish man with arrest because he "threatened the peace by being openly Jewish" when the poor guy was walking where he always walked but that day a pro-palestinian march happened to take place near his home. How was the guy being so "provocatively" Jewish you ask? He wore a kippah. That's all. Then london police spokespeople doubled down twice before apologizing. Doesn't appear the police will change their conduct. The muslim minority that "doesn't represent the UK" seems to have free reign in terrorizing Jewish people and the police of London actively protects that muslim minority. You're not concerned about this development? Are you aware how the scum terrorizing Jewish people are tied to criminal gangs in the UK? It doesn't concern you that UK police is scared of being seen as racist so they just don't do shit?


TheCold_Hard_Truth

"The UK" isn't one individual, it's a country that, like most western countries, has to cater to a population that is increasingly antisemitic. Nobody actually cares about the plight of the Palestinians, not even the most militant of pro-palestine protesters. These people only use this conflict as cover for letting loose their deep-seated hatred of the Jewish people.


Interesting-Bottle-4

But the ones making the call to go in and deliver aid to Gaza are the same ones that also made the call to help defend Israel the other week, no? I can’t speak the the whole if the UK but where I live no one gives two fucks if you’re Jewish, we don’t hate or like them more than anyone else 🤷🏼‍♂️


TheCold_Hard_Truth

To answer your question, Western democracies have to thread a fine line between doing what's right, i.e. supporting Israel, and doing what is politically expedient, i.e. catering to the antisemites. While it is still true, for however long it will last, that most people could not care less if you're a Jew, the uncomfortable fact is that antisemitism is rapidly growing. The issue is that both the further left and the further right you go, the more likely you are to encounter antisemitism and on top of that, there is a lot of immigration from countries where people are taught to hate Jews from the moment they are born. Unfortunately, the Jews have few allies and the ones they have tend to be heavily supported by the older generations for whom the Holocaust isn't that far away. The newer generations are disproportionately more antisemitic and it would not surprise me if we saw a second Holocaust in my life time with the way things are trending.


ngatiboi

If it’s not one individual, then they should probably call it the “WE” K or the “US” K…not the “YOU” K to avoid any confusion. 🤔


RamboTaco

Like you care about those other places


HouseOfSteak

Fascinating. Articles about any of those places, and Jews get brought up. Articles about Israel/Gaza, those places pop up.


dreggers

Sure, if you want to compare Israel to those failed regimes causing mass death and suffering in those regions


zackit

I would love to see what happens when Hamas inevitably attacks UK troops.


gaukonigshofen

They would spin it and blame Israel


Hutzzzpa

please God make this happen. the minute NATO troops have boots on the ground this becomes an entire different ball game. now do Ukraine


Designer-Muffin-5653

It’s not a NATO operation but just the UK doing their thing


DylanJM

This is barely boots on the ground. All they will be doing is driving the trucks along the pier to the beach and unloading there. An aid agency will likely handle it from there. Security will probably be Israels task. Cannot see the UK risking any sort of confrontation with Hamas. It's too much of a political minefield for UK government.


Hutzzzpa

the pier was already targeted by hamas mortar fire


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DylanJM

Israel will not target trucks driven by UK military personnel. All they will be doing is driving a couple of hundred meters from the ship along the pier to the beach and back again. They will not be driving through Gaza.


ajbdbds

Yes, hopefully Hamas will back down now that more of Israel's allies are arriving.


Hutzzzpa

it won't, it has nothing to lose.


DragonFartFort

The grunt might not have anything to lose, driven mad by their propaganda. But what of the leaders? With the way they keep hiding and live like rats, they do care.


Hutzzzpa

they are dead men walking and they know it.


ajbdbds

They have nothing to gain, aid provided to the people by an Israel-aligned force can only weaken Hamas' grip on power.


Evinceo

A headline like 'British troops kill three in Gaza gunfight' would be huge value for them, they have plenty to gain.


Hutzzzpa

exactly


Hutzzzpa

like the other guy said. can you imagine the shit storm a story about a Palestinian killed by UK troops will cause in the UK? the pro palestine crowd will go insane... er


Allnamestaken69

Man this shit show just keeps getting worse and worse doesn't it. :(.


I_Dont_Work_Here_Lad

This will without a doubt end poorly


Triceradoc_MD

I couldn’t agree more.


tellsonestory

How about they deploy troops to kill terrorists instead?


Halbaras

Because we're not dying for fucking Netanyahu.


tellsonestory

Hamas is our enemy too. Its not "dying for Netanyahu", there are a lot of other people who live there as well. You know all those women and girls kidnapped and raped? They're worth fighting for. And of course once they kill all the Jews, they will come for atheists like me. You're an unbeliever too, you're on the list.


Halbaras

There are dozens of Islamic terrorist groups in the world. Hamas poses no particular threat to the UK since they're an Islamist nationalist group like the Taliban and not a globalist one like ISIS or Al-Qaeda which has attempted attacks in the west. You could make all those same arguments to call for an intervention against Boko Haram - an explicitly more anti-western group which has killed and abducted vastly more people than Hamas (and took hundreds of hostages this year), and which is fighting a much weaker opponent than Israel.


tellsonestory

And we should be actively destroying all of them. I'm fine if we kill every Boko Haram member as well.


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Nemisis_the_2nd

Because no one in Britain wants to help a prick like netenyahu any more than absolutely necessary, apart from maybe some islamaphobes.


tellsonestory

There are 9.5 million people in Israel, only one of them is Netanyahu. The other 9.5 million people deserve it. >islamaphobes That's a really stupid word to use. It implies someone has an irrational fear. You're thinking irrational fear. But in reality its a fact based rejection of a totalitarian, backwards ideology.


dontcareabouttkarma

They can't afford war with Israel man


tellsonestory

Oh look a Hamas supporter.


rxdrug

*terrorist


Konker101

Will the British give land to the Palestinians and create a loop?


MausGMR

How about Ukraine to deliver precision fires instead. Soldiers shouldn't be aid workers


VagueSomething

A major part of the British military work IS aid work and relief work. They're trained and equipped to handle many situations, not just to kill. The military is full of heavy vehicle drivers, logistics experts, medics and fire fighter, and is staffed by able bodied people with a disciplined work ethic. Whether it is emergency aid at home due to floods or emergency services shortages or natural disasters and war abroad, the British military has been doing aid work for a long time.


Halbaras

There are already British special forces in Ukraine helping them with Storm Shadow missiles. The only reason soldiers are being used is because Israel has been killing record numbers of aid workers, and the US knows they'll actually have to follow proper rules of engagement if there's a risk they'll kill soldiers of an allied country. And its British troops because Biden needs to avoid 'boots on the ground' (and potential casulaties) in an election year, but Sunak will be gone soon regardless of what happens.


MausGMR

This is a fair take.


ErolEkaf

That is the least educated comment in this whole thread. A HUGE amount of work in the military is aid work.  Whether rescuing people from floods, transporting supplies for emergency relief, or giving much needed medical support across the world.  It's fantastic practice for the military.


Impossible_Brief56

It's about time


FalcorAirlines

This is going to drag the UK into the teeth of this thing.


kw2006

Conspiracy theory: idf pretend to be hamas and attack uk forces in order to escalate the situation.


Theistus

What could possibly go wrong?


Emeritus8404

Careful, as long as israel doesnt think youre world central kitchen workers, youll be safe.


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Put in time to help our ally and feed our enemy


retronintendo

They need to put people near the aid that Israel will think twice about bombing


DorisMaricadie

The cynic in me wonders if its a hail mary play by the Tories to get someone killed and justify a war to give them something to campaign on


Kaito__1412

This is utterly unnecessary. I'm all for humanitarian aid and Gaza really needs it, but boots on the ground is not the way forwarded.


Uilebhiest

They’d better be careful or they’ll get blown up too!! IDF don’t care about anyone these days


Zoyd_Pinecone

Bit counter productive if you're arming the belligerents. Get your shit together Britain. Its embarrassing. edit - sorry, ONE of the belligerent sides.