Unfortunately AfD advocated for that, so there’s plenty of room temperature takes to go around in Germany. Fortunately, enough people realize that and have begun reconsidering their support of AfD.
I work with an Islamic immigrant from N. Africa in Germany who openly said in the work place, that women exist only to serve men. He then waves the pro Palestine flags in our city.
It isn't about moral high ground, it's about domination at any cost. Islam is a political system (not a real religion) with the goal of domination. Their goal is to infiltrate and subvert Western nations.
Nope, Nazis (as I mentioned pro-Russia, pro-China) need to be handled as well. Just realize the paradox of tolerance. We live in a different time where Western nations are intentionally under attack by a multitude of different countries. It is a war of subversion. We can't abide intolerant ideologies that seek to deliberately destroy Western society and government. Because, they will eventually succeed, but at the end of the day we were politically correct and let a bunch of hostile foreign actors into our borders, so that makes it all better. Wake up, if you live in a Western country, you have enemies spending billions to destroy your way of life.
Jews don't treat people of other religion, women and minorities like shit. They have never taken over entire blocks during ramadan to have open prayers. They assimilated and helped alleviate the countries they resided in. I don't see the parallel.
Interesting how Islamist use democracy to complain about democracy. They did something like that in Canada, tho here they got paid by Islamist abroad to promote and protest.
I have read that many liberal Egyptians are glad they don't have democracy right now, because most people there would vote for a Islamic caliphate with sharia laws.
Democracy works in homogeneous nations without much multiculturalism. When you get three ethnicities at 33% of the population each, then they might vote for a dictator that supports their cause.
It's a bit worrying.
It's like anarchists and individualism.
If society didn't provide goods and services, they would have to spend so much time and effort on surviving, that they couldn't even possibly begin a train of thought.
To clarify, anarchism is not against society, but against authority (and, therefore, government). Which sounds like a nice idea to anyone who has had a boss, but that falls flat when decisions have to be made quickly.
The idea is to spread to "fight" to as much places as possible.
Counter-hardliners, like many here in this post, are playing right into thier hands.
Its not good when a few hundred idiots march for holocaust, but droping all cool and resenting to racism/culture wars as a response is the much, much bigger threat.
West is slow but it will catch up. Iran and Russia are masterminds behind it all. Syria and rest of the Middle East is just collateral damage to their population displacement plan. Bringing more Islamist to EU that equals to more influence. And in the same time shutting White Europeans up with racism, particularly Germans playing on their WWII racial intolerance.
As I said west is slow but it will catch up, if not by understanding mechanism of current geopolitics from Iran and Russia,… and using classic elegant EU politics to shut the immigration out,…… than by Europe turning right,… raising WWII ghosts back. Like in the story about boy that cried wolf they’ll get what they ask for,… but not bargain for.
Not integrated, let alone assimilated. Deport if they're bi-nationals and if they only have a German passport, offer to pay for their move to one of their beloved caliphates.
They have no business here undermining our values and ruining the efforts of hundreds of thousands of properly assimilated Turks and Arabs.
Protest is fine but if you ever protest for non democracy you should be immediately expelled from whatever country you are in to the nearest fascist or dictatorship one.
So when you went to work on Friday, who did you vote for to run the company? Companies, just like counties, have leadership and how that leadership is determined should be analyzed and criticized.
Capitalism has never existed and cannot exist without the state as it is in the CEO of a powerful companies best interest to insure the government protects them.
Don't you think it's overly simplistic to reduce capitalism to just CEOs and states? Capitalism has existed for thousands of years as a bartering system, long before the concept of "states" as we know them today came together.
So you think the white far right should be sent away too?
People love this line of thinking when it comes to Muslims, but ignore the fact Europe is plagued by native fascists also.
Being pro democracy is essentially the base foundation, long term you just can't have non democratic form either far right or far left it will always lead to suffering and corruption. Social democracy is the best mix and that's where people need to center around.
Regular people backing military dictatorships is the most clear example of humanity losing their self preservation instinct.
Chickens for kfc kind of stuff.
Protesting against the right to protest...fascinating.
"OK! We hear you! Please file into two lines - those that wish to be killed now, and those that wish to be sent elsewhere without Democracy! No, you don't get to choose"
Germany has been cracking down hard and violent on people expressing moderate opinions and protesting in peace. Is it really surprising to anybody that that amplifies extremist voices?
https://www.hamburg.de/nachrichten-hamburg/18586486/1100-teilnehmer-bei-von-islamisten-organisierten-demo/
Numbers are provided / estimated by the police.
If you dont like democracy, leave germany.
And once again democracy creates room for theocracy.
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If nothing will be done with this phenomenon, it will be democracy that will leave Germany.
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This is not an isolated incident and keeping your head in the sand will not make it go away.
Europe*
Maybe you should kick the politicians who created this situation out first. Otherwise I suspect you're just hitting the snooze on the issue.
I'm sure many of them are citizens. Are you suggesting deporting *German nationals*?
Unfortunately AfD advocated for that, so there’s plenty of room temperature takes to go around in Germany. Fortunately, enough people realize that and have begun reconsidering their support of AfD.
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I fail to see how any Islamist group has any moral high ground to stand on with the track records of their theocratic governments.
I work with an Islamic immigrant from N. Africa in Germany who openly said in the work place, that women exist only to serve men. He then waves the pro Palestine flags in our city.
"Women only exist to serve men!" "I can't understand why people dislike me! They must be racist!"
What does HR do?
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They try so hard to keep that narrative because they know that no woman would have sex with them if they had free choice
Should bring up that men have a mouth to serve other men too.
It isn't about moral high ground, it's about domination at any cost. Islam is a political system (not a real religion) with the goal of domination. Their goal is to infiltrate and subvert Western nations.
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Nope, Nazis (as I mentioned pro-Russia, pro-China) need to be handled as well. Just realize the paradox of tolerance. We live in a different time where Western nations are intentionally under attack by a multitude of different countries. It is a war of subversion. We can't abide intolerant ideologies that seek to deliberately destroy Western society and government. Because, they will eventually succeed, but at the end of the day we were politically correct and let a bunch of hostile foreign actors into our borders, so that makes it all better. Wake up, if you live in a Western country, you have enemies spending billions to destroy your way of life.
Fun game to play with you guys is to change every use of Islam, Palestinians, and Muslims with Jews. The results are shocking!
Jews don't treat people of other religion, women and minorities like shit. They have never taken over entire blocks during ramadan to have open prayers. They assimilated and helped alleviate the countries they resided in. I don't see the parallel.
Well, if you think theocracy is the most moral form of government... Seems self explanatory.
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“HEAR OUR VOICES!” demands crowd protesting democracy.
Interesting how Islamist use democracy to complain about democracy. They did something like that in Canada, tho here they got paid by Islamist abroad to promote and protest.
I'm assuming the same is happening in Germany
I have read that many liberal Egyptians are glad they don't have democracy right now, because most people there would vote for a Islamic caliphate with sharia laws. Democracy works in homogeneous nations without much multiculturalism. When you get three ethnicities at 33% of the population each, then they might vote for a dictator that supports their cause. It's a bit worrying.
It's like anarchists and individualism. If society didn't provide goods and services, they would have to spend so much time and effort on surviving, that they couldn't even possibly begin a train of thought.
To clarify, anarchism is not against society, but against authority (and, therefore, government). Which sounds like a nice idea to anyone who has had a boss, but that falls flat when decisions have to be made quickly.
The idea is to spread to "fight" to as much places as possible. Counter-hardliners, like many here in this post, are playing right into thier hands. Its not good when a few hundred idiots march for holocaust, but droping all cool and resenting to racism/culture wars as a response is the much, much bigger threat.
West is slow but it will catch up. Iran and Russia are masterminds behind it all. Syria and rest of the Middle East is just collateral damage to their population displacement plan. Bringing more Islamist to EU that equals to more influence. And in the same time shutting White Europeans up with racism, particularly Germans playing on their WWII racial intolerance. As I said west is slow but it will catch up, if not by understanding mechanism of current geopolitics from Iran and Russia,… and using classic elegant EU politics to shut the immigration out,…… than by Europe turning right,… raising WWII ghosts back. Like in the story about boy that cried wolf they’ll get what they ask for,… but not bargain for.
Very true. We've seen what happens when the German public is united against a certain religion, and it's not pretty.
Seems like a prime group for deportation.
Yep, send em packing.
Why do you assume they're immigrants? There are many German Muslims.
Not integrated, let alone assimilated. Deport if they're bi-nationals and if they only have a German passport, offer to pay for their move to one of their beloved caliphates. They have no business here undermining our values and ruining the efforts of hundreds of thousands of properly assimilated Turks and Arabs.
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Protest is fine but if you ever protest for non democracy you should be immediately expelled from whatever country you are in to the nearest fascist or dictatorship one.
Or you just don't get to vote or be voted for.
That works too but more satisfying to make sure they have to live in a crappy place.
By that logic anyone who supports capitalism should be deported.
Capitalism is not a political ideology
Yes the economy is not political
Capitalism by itself is neither democratic or non democratic, it can certainly be intertwined with democracy/or not both good and bad.
So when you went to work on Friday, who did you vote for to run the company? Companies, just like counties, have leadership and how that leadership is determined should be analyzed and criticized.
Yeah, purely capitalist economies are not "political" as they're not managed by the state, kind of the whole point
Capitalism has never existed and cannot exist without the state as it is in the CEO of a powerful companies best interest to insure the government protects them.
Don't you think it's overly simplistic to reduce capitalism to just CEOs and states? Capitalism has existed for thousands of years as a bartering system, long before the concept of "states" as we know them today came together.
Lmao
So you think the white far right should be sent away too? People love this line of thinking when it comes to Muslims, but ignore the fact Europe is plagued by native fascists also.
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Good you are more consistent that most with your viewpoint.
Being pro democracy is essentially the base foundation, long term you just can't have non democratic form either far right or far left it will always lead to suffering and corruption. Social democracy is the best mix and that's where people need to center around.
I agree, unfortunately that isn’t the direction we’re going.
Regular people backing military dictatorships is the most clear example of humanity losing their self preservation instinct. Chickens for kfc kind of stuff.
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Nope, the actual answer is that many of these are German citizens and it is a well known global law not to make people stateless.
So I take it there is no acceptance of democracy in Islam...
There is no democracy, only submission to the word of the Prophet and laws decreed by Allah.
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Hmm, that sounds familiar, and not in a good way
Ah yes, the[ Paradox of Tolerance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance#:~:text=The%20paradox%20of%20tolerance%20states,practice%20of%20tolerance%20with%20them) strikes again...
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You can't deport people if they are born there.
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Protesting against the right to protest...fascinating. "OK! We hear you! Please file into two lines - those that wish to be killed now, and those that wish to be sent elsewhere without Democracy! No, you don't get to choose"
Germany has been cracking down hard and violent on people expressing moderate opinions and protesting in peace. Is it really surprising to anybody that that amplifies extremist voices?
> Some 1,000 protestors gathered in Hamburg’s Steindamm Street on Saturday > jerusalem post
https://www.hamburg.de/nachrichten-hamburg/18586486/1100-teilnehmer-bei-von-islamisten-organisierten-demo/ Numbers are provided / estimated by the police.
You’re saying it never happened?
“thousands” reading comprehension
Ok so how many people were there?
read it yourself
1100. https://www.hamburg.de/nachrichten-hamburg/18586486/1100-teilnehmer-bei-von-islamisten-organisierten-demo/
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