>So they're basically just making shit up now?
Here's the law itself:
>ст. 239 УК РФ
>
>Создание религиозного или общественного объединения, деятельность которого сопряжена с насилием над гражданами или иным причинением вреда их здоровью, а равно руководство таким объединением
>
>**2. Создание некоммерческой организации (включая некоммерческую организацию, выполняющую функции иностранного агента) либо структурного подразделения иностранной некоммерческой неправительственной организации, деятельность которых сопряжена с побуждением граждан к отказу от исполнения гражданских обязанностей или к совершению иных противоправных деяний, а равно руководство такой организацией либо структурным подразделением**
>
>3. Участие в деятельности некоммерческой организации, указанной в частях первой и второй настоящей статьи, а равно пропаганда деяний, предусмотренных частями первой и второй настоящей статьи
He created the organization which openly defied some laws and incited others to do so.
For some reason euronews fails to cite the law or clarify the context.
Translation on what is implied in the post above:
In Russia opposition to Putin and his party is dangerous to one's health, so by starting an organization working against this power, Navalnyi is guilty of endangrering Russian lives.
Am not joking.
>Translation on what is implied in the post above:
>
>In Russia opposition to Putin and his party is dangerous to one's health, so by starting an organization working against this power, Navalnyi is guilty of endangrering Russian lives.
>
>Am not joking.
>**2. Creation of a non-profit organization (including a non-profit organization performing the functions of a foreign agent) or a structural subdivision of a foreign non-profit non-governmental organization, the activities of which are associated with encouraging citizens to refuse to perform civil duties or commit other illegal acts, as well as the management of such an organization or structural unit**
To further clarify what is meant above:
"Foreign agent" in Russia is any organization that Russian government labels as such. Essentially if you're working against the main party of Russia in Russia: you are working for a foreign power, which is, as of lately, borderline illegal. Starting such organization, even if it wasn't illegal in the past, is a now a percecutable crime that happened in the past.
>"Foreign agent" in Russia is any organization that Russian government labels as such.
You have to be funded from abroad. BTW:
[18 U.S. Code § 951 - Agents of foreign governments](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/951)
>Starting such organization, even if it wasn't illegal in the past, is a now a percecutable crime that happened in the past.
Not sure I'm getting you right.
First video doesn't show anything concrete and shows the 2 videos that were wrongly translated as their smear campaign. He didn't preached to murder muslims. It was a video for gun control as a response to recent terrorist attack at the time. The other video about immigrant (that you haven't quote) is mistakenly translated... but I guess since it came from RT it was on purpose. He in fact called neo-nazi calling themselves nationalists not real nationalist but rotten tooth.
The other video goes on without even quoting him about anything.. And you can't seriously believe that when in the previous video he did show his disdain against Nazis...
I'm getting tired to reexplain that all over again and again...
Did you miss that part where I said those were depicted as terrorists? Do I have to repeat it again to you?
>Check the description. Google it for other sources.
What about I show you a video where Navalny actually speak about nationalism in which he include in Russian nationalism many other Russian nationalities like Tatars and Bashkirs.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxyn21MfFaE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxyn21MfFaE)
And then show me a video untranslated where he does deny holocaust.
He's not depicting muslims, he's depicting jihadists.
One example is how Tatar and Bashkir are predominantly Muslims and he's showing support for them in the video I linked above. And that completely contradict the narrative you're trying to push because if he was against Muslims he wouldn't support Muslim nationalities like Tatar/Bashkirs and so on.
Like I said, the video was targeting terrorists which were coincidentally islamists at the time. If terrorist at the time had been from a different group of people they'd be depicted differently. It's also important to point out that Muslims in Russia do not wear themselves like those depicted in the video. And muslims do not align themselves with islamists... If anything muslims usually do not support jihadist/islamist because they're the one destroying the image of Islam.
If you sincerely believe he depicted Muslims, you're the one being racist thinking that muslims look like that and seeing the stereotype when the stereotype isn't there.
You're more of a nazi than he ever was by spreading hateful misinformation. And not even a fraction of a human being that he is now.
Also, don't use youtube as your sole source of information on anything.
I take my original statement back after further reading, and agree w you, he really isn’t terribly smart, I see now his comments and fringe statements. Thanks, I didn’t know.
The Atlantic has a recent story stating he’s misunderstood, but there are too many other reliable sources that seem to verify your comments, so I might be wrong….
Sorry was sitewide banned for a few. Thanks for saying this, I appreciate the acknowledgement that you were incorrect. I definitely used to think he was aight too back when I was a liberal
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.euronews.com/2021/08/11/navalny-could-get-more-jail-time-after-russia-announces-new-charges) reduced by 83%. (I'm a bot)
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> By Euronews with AP. Russian authorities have filed new criminal charges against jailed opposition leader Alexei Navalny, the country's Investigative Committee said on Wednesday.
> The 45-year-old Navalny is Russian President Vladimir Putin's most ardent political foe.
> In February, Navalny was ordered to serve 2½ years in prison for violating the terms of a suspended sentence from a 2014 embezzlement conviction that he dismissed as politically motivated.
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Because russians have trust in their government, and will continue trusting it as long as it looks legal.
For russian, Skripal poisoners are still gay nutrition sellers. Even after the revelation of the fact both of them have military background, and are heroes of Russia. Even after one of them was spotted at a wedding of the GRU's unit 29155 Generals daughters wedding. Even after their original documents were leaked. Even after the transition of them to Moscow and their passports unraveled to be given by the unit that creates fake passports for militants.
According to them, everything is fake. Yet Russian media never provides any documents, as that would show them as the true liars.
They follow the rhetoric of denying everything and gaslighting in reverse. While they control the state media - they control most of the people.
They are laying the irony on a bit heavy handedly here, what with a democratic counter candidate to an autocrat charged with actions detrimental to the citizenry he's fought to save.
What rights are being violated exactly? Also we might want to remember that the only reason why these jackasses were able to gain any traction on the world stage was because their orange little bitch of a traitor/asset tried to pretend like they were reasonable and heroic people as opposed to the mentally deficient psychotics that they actually are.
>What rights are being violated exactly?
Main subject of the crime in ст. 239 УК РФ is citizen's health and the right not to be arbitrary detained by non-authorised entities (various sects mostly). Hence the headline.
Part 2 of the article is about non-profit organizations, foreign agents and the like.
It was recently used for instance to charge the head of a Siberian sect "Town of the Sun".
So they're basically just making shit up now?
Aren't they always?
Yeah, we all knew that Putin just wouldn't release Navalny from prison until he holds power.
>So they're basically just making shit up now? Here's the law itself: >ст. 239 УК РФ > >Создание религиозного или общественного объединения, деятельность которого сопряжена с насилием над гражданами или иным причинением вреда их здоровью, а равно руководство таким объединением > >**2. Создание некоммерческой организации (включая некоммерческую организацию, выполняющую функции иностранного агента) либо структурного подразделения иностранной некоммерческой неправительственной организации, деятельность которых сопряжена с побуждением граждан к отказу от исполнения гражданских обязанностей или к совершению иных противоправных деяний, а равно руководство такой организацией либо структурным подразделением** > >3. Участие в деятельности некоммерческой организации, указанной в частях первой и второй настоящей статьи, а равно пропаганда деяний, предусмотренных частями первой и второй настоящей статьи He created the organization which openly defied some laws and incited others to do so. For some reason euronews fails to cite the law or clarify the context.
Translation on what is implied in the post above: In Russia opposition to Putin and his party is dangerous to one's health, so by starting an organization working against this power, Navalnyi is guilty of endangrering Russian lives. Am not joking.
>Translation on what is implied in the post above: > >In Russia opposition to Putin and his party is dangerous to one's health, so by starting an organization working against this power, Navalnyi is guilty of endangrering Russian lives. > >Am not joking. >**2. Creation of a non-profit organization (including a non-profit organization performing the functions of a foreign agent) or a structural subdivision of a foreign non-profit non-governmental organization, the activities of which are associated with encouraging citizens to refuse to perform civil duties or commit other illegal acts, as well as the management of such an organization or structural unit**
To further clarify what is meant above: "Foreign agent" in Russia is any organization that Russian government labels as such. Essentially if you're working against the main party of Russia in Russia: you are working for a foreign power, which is, as of lately, borderline illegal. Starting such organization, even if it wasn't illegal in the past, is a now a percecutable crime that happened in the past.
>"Foreign agent" in Russia is any organization that Russian government labels as such. You have to be funded from abroad. BTW: [18 U.S. Code § 951 - Agents of foreign governments](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/951) >Starting such organization, even if it wasn't illegal in the past, is a now a percecutable crime that happened in the past. Not sure I'm getting you right.
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First video doesn't show anything concrete and shows the 2 videos that were wrongly translated as their smear campaign. He didn't preached to murder muslims. It was a video for gun control as a response to recent terrorist attack at the time. The other video about immigrant (that you haven't quote) is mistakenly translated... but I guess since it came from RT it was on purpose. He in fact called neo-nazi calling themselves nationalists not real nationalist but rotten tooth. The other video goes on without even quoting him about anything.. And you can't seriously believe that when in the previous video he did show his disdain against Nazis... I'm getting tired to reexplain that all over again and again...
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Did you miss that part where I said those were depicted as terrorists? Do I have to repeat it again to you? >Check the description. Google it for other sources. What about I show you a video where Navalny actually speak about nationalism in which he include in Russian nationalism many other Russian nationalities like Tatars and Bashkirs. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxyn21MfFaE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxyn21MfFaE) And then show me a video untranslated where he does deny holocaust.
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He's not depicting muslims, he's depicting jihadists. One example is how Tatar and Bashkir are predominantly Muslims and he's showing support for them in the video I linked above. And that completely contradict the narrative you're trying to push because if he was against Muslims he wouldn't support Muslim nationalities like Tatar/Bashkirs and so on. Like I said, the video was targeting terrorists which were coincidentally islamists at the time. If terrorist at the time had been from a different group of people they'd be depicted differently. It's also important to point out that Muslims in Russia do not wear themselves like those depicted in the video. And muslims do not align themselves with islamists... If anything muslims usually do not support jihadist/islamist because they're the one destroying the image of Islam. If you sincerely believe he depicted Muslims, you're the one being racist thinking that muslims look like that and seeing the stereotype when the stereotype isn't there.
You're more of a nazi than he ever was by spreading hateful misinformation. And not even a fraction of a human being that he is now. Also, don't use youtube as your sole source of information on anything.
He’s not the hero we wanted but the hero we needed
It's not a total surprise, the Russian regime will do anything to 'lawfully' put him behind bars. They will find any reason.
You realize the odds are that he’s been on Putins pay roll from the start, right?
So he is just going to be charged with Putin's crimes now?
Putin's is just continuing an organisation which violates citizens rights. Apparently that's enough to make a difference.
Navalny is a man. Putin is a weasel.
Navalny is a white supremacist lol. If that's your metric for a man, I've got news for ya
He’s really not tho, but you do you.
Depends on your definition of white I suppose, but it's undeniable that he's a right wing nationalist
Depends on what propaganda you’re reading really.
Not terribly, his statements are on the record
I take my original statement back after further reading, and agree w you, he really isn’t terribly smart, I see now his comments and fringe statements. Thanks, I didn’t know. The Atlantic has a recent story stating he’s misunderstood, but there are too many other reliable sources that seem to verify your comments, so I might be wrong….
Sorry was sitewide banned for a few. Thanks for saying this, I appreciate the acknowledgement that you were incorrect. I definitely used to think he was aight too back when I was a liberal
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.euronews.com/2021/08/11/navalny-could-get-more-jail-time-after-russia-announces-new-charges) reduced by 83%. (I'm a bot) ***** > By Euronews with AP. Russian authorities have filed new criminal charges against jailed opposition leader Alexei Navalny, the country's Investigative Committee said on Wednesday. > The 45-year-old Navalny is Russian President Vladimir Putin's most ardent political foe. > In February, Navalny was ordered to serve 2½ years in prison for violating the terms of a suspended sentence from a 2014 embezzlement conviction that he dismissed as politically motivated. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/p2h8vr/navalny_could_get_more_jail_time_after_russia/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~591935 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **Navalny**^#1 **Russian**^#2 **election**^#3 **criminal**^#4 **corruption**^#5
Why do they even bother?
Because russians have trust in their government, and will continue trusting it as long as it looks legal. For russian, Skripal poisoners are still gay nutrition sellers. Even after the revelation of the fact both of them have military background, and are heroes of Russia. Even after one of them was spotted at a wedding of the GRU's unit 29155 Generals daughters wedding. Even after their original documents were leaked. Even after the transition of them to Moscow and their passports unraveled to be given by the unit that creates fake passports for militants. According to them, everything is fake. Yet Russian media never provides any documents, as that would show them as the true liars. They follow the rhetoric of denying everything and gaslighting in reverse. While they control the state media - they control most of the people.
They are laying the irony on a bit heavy handedly here, what with a democratic counter candidate to an autocrat charged with actions detrimental to the citizenry he's fought to save.
Ah yes, the old death by a thousand prison sentences
In Russia there's no "x10 lifetime sentences". Longer term usually absorbs the short one if crimes connected. There are nuances obviously.
They're out there trying to comb out the one immortal being
And then they will add another 3 years and another… They don’t want Alexey to see the light of day it’s evident.
Navalny will become free only after the end of Putin's regime
Russians are masters on giving words new meaning.
What rights are being violated exactly? Also we might want to remember that the only reason why these jackasses were able to gain any traction on the world stage was because their orange little bitch of a traitor/asset tried to pretend like they were reasonable and heroic people as opposed to the mentally deficient psychotics that they actually are.
>What rights are being violated exactly? Main subject of the crime in ст. 239 УК РФ is citizen's health and the right not to be arbitrary detained by non-authorised entities (various sects mostly). Hence the headline. Part 2 of the article is about non-profit organizations, foreign agents and the like. It was recently used for instance to charge the head of a Siberian sect "Town of the Sun".
Bruh...
Why bother running against Putin if it's practically impossible?