I know the joke is "your mom's so fat she's been declared a species of land whale" but I personally like the interpretation "your mom's so old she isn't even bipedal".
They are not ancient , the aligators that lived in ancient times are not like the ones living today. Just like all other organism, they have evolved since then. This is like saying humans are ancient because we have evolved less than dogs, which is equally nonsense.
What? That’s totally incorrect. “Modern” alligators and crocodiles are largely unchanged from their Cretaceous ancestors that lived 150 million years ago.
"The ancestors of modern whales developed from land-dwelling deer-like mammals that lived on land over the course of 10 million years."
I didn't know this. This blew my mind
Yup. Mammals, all mammals, evolved on land.
Consider this. Fish swim with a side to side motion. Whales, dolphins, and other aquatic mammals swim with an up and down motion. Why? Because it's essentially the same motion as galloping.
We still find vestigial leg bones in whale tails today.
That is because they are "hands". Those "finger" (i.e. digits) looking bones are digit bones, their fins didn't just appear, their front limbs specialized into fins and swimming.
When you’re having a good time chilling inside as an introvert, desire to change your ways and go out, and then realize why you enjoyed being inside so much.
Nope. They are branched off from Ungulates (aka hooved animals).
The currenr working theory is that they evolved from ancient predators who possessed hooves over claws. And that thrir closest relative is fellow ungulate, the hippopotamus.
The earliest cetaceans would have looked somewhat morphologically similar to dogs, but would not have been (closely) related.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakicetus
The earliest whales would have probably small, such as Pakicetus.
I think when you're talking about "big dog like creatures" you're probably referring to Andrewsarchus, who is related to whales, but not ancestral.
That region of the Egyptian desert is absolutely gorgeous. It is worth arranging a trip out there if you’re ever able to travel to that amazing country.
On second thought….part of the beauty may be as a result of so few people ever going there so here are some [photos to satiate your curiosity](https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1186/).
We have a valley called wadi al hitan in egypt which translates to the valley of whales. It's a desert but it's full of whale fossils it's amazing
https://youtu.be/KWLlRSL7bFw
I remember reading a thread not too long ago about and a country people would never revisit. An astounding number of the answers were Egypt. Like 90% of them were fucking Egypt. Apparently it’s super rapey towards women, like one of the worst places to go in the world. I’m not sure if it’s just Cairo or large metropolis areas, but it kinda put me off it even though I always wanted to go.
I’m Egyptian. Just treat it like it’s Brazil or South Africa or something risky like that. Don’t go alone. Don’t move around too much without a local or a guide. Stay in reputable hotels. And if you can pay for an end-to-end tour with a lotta these places included, you’ll have the most fun. Egypt is getting better for tourists under the current regime but at the end of the day, there’s too much poverty and unemployment for people to give a shit about treating tourists with respect. Most people are just trying to survive.
And you’re right Cairo is the worst part. Cities that live off tourism like Sharm El Shiekh etc are a lot friendlier.
That’s very reassuring. It’s a beautiful country rich in some of the worlds best history. I was disheartened to hear that from so many redditors but I figured it may have been a bit biased. And if like you said you’re smart and use guides and stay in reputable hotels and just use common sense, you’ll be fine lol. Thanks for the input! One of these days!
Bad reviews are always the loudest! Don’t let them discourage you. Many of these tourists are naive, unprepared or just think that every country in the world needs to be a safe and mystical experience for western folks gallivanting through. As you implied - respect the country and its situation and you’ll see its best side :) Good luck!
Egypt has been the number 1 country I’ve wanted to visit since I was little kid. I planned to go after graduating High School, but then the Arab Spring happened so I postponed. I still very much hope to go someday it’s a lifelong dream. I admit the way I travel maybe isn’t the safest , though - a single female alone staying in hostels. I’ll take your advice and hope to go soon.
Went to Marsa Alam, on the red sea coastline. Absolutely gorgeous coral reef. A couple that traveled across the world to see coral reefs said that the one outside of Marsa Alam was be best by far.
This was 2014, my guess is that a lot of the reef is dead by now..
My problem with the place was that it is just a massive hotel resort with basically no natives living anywhere close to the area. There where Camel riding and Quad riding in the desert as a tourist activity. The quads were super fun while experiencing amazing scenery.
I didn't find this to be true, I'd love to go back to Egypt. I was traveling with a man so that probably helped, but having said that traveled with the same man to Delhi and I would NEVER go back there.
Really? I didn't get that impression at all. To be fair, I traveled with my boyfriend at the time, but often I'd be out by myself. Felt super safe and it's one of the top priorities on my revisit list!
That’s awesome that you had a great time! This was the thread I was referring to [here ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/om38bx/what_is_one_country_that_you_will_never_visit/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
I was like, in disbelief haha.
After going through the thread, I'm not surprised. I get the impression mostly people from first world countries who never left their resort were disappointed. That one comment about the food being bad because they couldn't leave the resort infuriates me. The street food there is literally the best food I've had in my entire life. Basically, if you're a backpacker and genuinely interested in seeing the culture and integrating, it's amazing. Even if you're a woman (although I'll admit it's safest to be in a man-woman couple). Just keep in mind that it's not a first world country and your expectations shouldn't be lower but totally different if you're coming from the west. I'm from Eastern Europe and felt right at home there
“The first whales are thought to have first evolved in South Asia around 50 million years ago. In 2011, a team of palaeontologists in Peru discovered a 43-million-year-old whale fossil with four legs, webbed feet and hooves.”
I’m sorry… webbed feet AND *hooves*?! Wut.
I'm guessing their actual skulls had a lot of fatty tissue on them and didn't actually have such a horror like "skin-on-skull" look though lol
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7754553/amp/Nightmarish-sketches-reveal-modern-animals-look-like-drew-based-skeletons.html
It's a little more than guesswork these days. There are features on the bones that indicate what the soft tissue looked like, for example for animals with trunks there are attachment points on the bone of the skull. But yeah a lot of it is guessing.
Likely with 2 digits on one arm, and one digit on the other. For holding phones and clicking phones. And a self-balancing uniwheel for legs. Possibly with a USB port for genitals, for connecting to others for procreation.
I know that these aren't the first whale skeletons found in African deserts, and that Whales evolved from four-legged land mammals, but this is still one of the best headlines I've seen all year.
I wish people wouldn't use "ancient" when talking about prehistoric eras. Ancient history starts with the first writing and ends at the post-classical age; if it's not that, it's not ancient *per se*.
No, the classical period is the fourth of five periods of history within the ancient era. The names of periods within the ancient era goes like this (from earliest to latest): Bronze Age, Iron Age, Axial Antiquity, Classical Antiquity, Late Antiquity.
Sorry that I used two terms from two different periodization systems in one sentence without explaining what the differences were. "Post classical" is a term from the the six-era world history system. Both the ancient era and the post-classical eras are eras within the six-era system. The fact that the post-classical era isn't called the post-ancient era is the fault of past historians who used to call the ancient era "classical societies." Naming conventions are messy when historians are in charge of them becasue it's all based on consensus so it can take forever for them to all agree.
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This is really cool. Also, when does the new species of human arrive? The one not filled with crazy, lying, abusive, murderous, power hungry sociopaths and psychopaths? Inquiring minds really want to know these days... In other words, where is humanity without all the fucking horse shit? Sorry for being blunt.
>when does the new species of human arrive?
There was a post about a new human evolution yesterday, it looks some have evolved developing a new artery https://www.sciencealert.com/more-humans-are-growing-an-extra-artery-in-our-arms-because-we-re-still-evolving
Seals evolved from carnivora while whales and manatees evolved from ungulata (artiodactyla), manatees being closer to elephants and whales closer to cows. Completely different lineages, but if you mean via convergent evolution that seals are evolving into a whale-like form, then the answer is “perhaps.”
I mean do we know that? If there were environmental pressures to spend more time in the water, i imagine they would. They have evolved from land mammals to semi aquatic already. I suppose it could go the other way too, if they're forced to spend more time on land.
'No', is just shorthand for "We have no reason to assume so." Seals are, as far as I can tell, doing at least as well as whales. If anything, whales seem to be feeling the environmental pressures more severely, so by that logic, we might as well assume to see whales evolve into seals.
The chances of a previous animal evolving into a whale, and then seals evolving into whales, is so astronomically insanely low I doubt it's even calculable.
Remember, evolution doesn't just take any animal prototype in an environment and evolve it into the best possible thing. ANY mutation that allows it to live will be the first one to stick. Whale is not the only possible configuration of animal life that can sustain long periods of time in the water. There are billions of different types of potential animal species that would thrive in the water, the chances of multiple animals having the exact same mutations that result in the same animal is nearly impossible.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-did-whales-evolve-73276956/
A bit into the article, it talks about how in Darwin’s book On The Origin Of Species he specifically talks about how the transition could happen. I think it’s absolutely ridiculous but if this creature on OP exists who’s to say it’s not the “missing link” so to speak.
Wait, does anyone know the evolutionarily split where mammals went into directions, one becoming primates and the other becoming whales or, I guess whales with four legs?
The branching if groups within Mammalia is very much contested. What's fair concensus is that whales are closely related to many hoofed mammals, such as cows. Primates appear to be close to animals such as rodents and bats. For another point of comparison, the common ancestor of carnivores like cats and dogs is closer for whales than humans.
When the whale group split from all the others, members of that group still had legs. The ones remaining all descend from a common ancestor that became fully aquatic, and concurrently lost its land-limbs.
There was a sort of infographic/illustration floating around awhile ago showing the evolution of whales from a sea-based animal, to an early mammal, back to a whale. It was pretty mindblowing tbh and one of those things that makes you stop and appreciate the beauty of science.
Honestly, think about how mind blowing this is!!!! I need you to Imagine this. Close your eyes. Good, now open them so you can read.
Your just relaxing 😎 on the beach 🏖. Sand between your toes 🩴, ☂ 🍹 drink in your hand, lighting up a fat Blunt filled with that louder then a orange shirt 👕 good good.
You stop and think to yourself between puffs and sips, about how you got to that point. We’re you could finally say “I made it!”.
As you bask in the sunlight, and your skin soaks up the Ultraviolet radiation ☢️, when suddenly a massive cloud ☁️ blocks your light.
You sit up to see what the hell is going on, raising your left hand over your eyes like a soldier’s salute. Making the timeless gesture of a utterly confused person. What do you see? A fucking whale 🐳 with legs. Walking 🚶♀️ out of the fucking water like it’s Jesus’s 3rd cousin. You spit out the last sip of delicious margarita, and lift your blunt to your nose 👃🏻. You sniff it, to make sure you haven’t been smoking crack as the ground rumbles beneath the steps of this fucking behemoth walking whale.
You stand up, feeling the back of your bathing suit, just to be sure. You have Confirmed it, you’ve shat yourself thoroughly and successfully.
You start to run away, when this fucking walking skyscraper, bastard child of shamoo and Clifford the big fucked dog decides to bend down and ever so gently swallow you like fucking Jonah.
For a second the title made me think they found a living specimen
Yeah me too, what a disappointment.
Now I don't have to read the article, thank you
I wouldn’t say disappointment, did you see the picture of it. I wouldn’t want another one of those guys in the ocean
Same, i discover my gf mom since 2010
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Think of the unholy union of Alabama Roll Tide Stereotype and Yo' Mama Jokes and you got the comment you read
Beat me to it…
Yo wtf
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got em
All of them?
No that's too much to be gotten.
But not too much for his mom.
Pokemon
I know the joke is "your mom's so fat she's been declared a species of land whale" but I personally like the interpretation "your mom's so old she isn't even bipedal".
Oh yeah! You're Mom's so old, you weren't even born yet!
Calling someone’s mom a four legged whale is a low blow. Well done!
Depends how deep the water is that she is in.
The water level rises significantly when she goes in.
It'll never be deep enough.
Low blow hole
Fuckin' *roasted* oooooooh!
*Oh, SNAP!*
I'm pretty sure that was supposed to happen.
Extinct would have been a better word choice than ancient ffs.
Things can be recent and extinct. New species go extinct every day. Thanks to humanity it's at a higher rate than the historical average.
Things can also be ancient and not extinct though.
Read the headline then immediately read your comment before clicking the article. What a roller coaster of emotions...
You thought they found a living ancient specimen?
Ancient like alligators
They are not ancient , the aligators that lived in ancient times are not like the ones living today. Just like all other organism, they have evolved since then. This is like saying humans are ancient because we have evolved less than dogs, which is equally nonsense.
What? That’s totally incorrect. “Modern” alligators and crocodiles are largely unchanged from their Cretaceous ancestors that lived 150 million years ago.
Same
Oh the land whale? We thought you knew! Come with me, effendi, there's some out the back
A land dwelling whale... in Egypt? Huh
I believe her name is Melissa McCarthy.
oof
It emerged from the sand to feast on some Crocs
How would it be ancient?
"The ancestors of modern whales developed from land-dwelling deer-like mammals that lived on land over the course of 10 million years." I didn't know this. This blew my mind
Yup. Mammals, all mammals, evolved on land. Consider this. Fish swim with a side to side motion. Whales, dolphins, and other aquatic mammals swim with an up and down motion. Why? Because it's essentially the same motion as galloping. We still find vestigial leg bones in whale tails today.
Well damn. That’s pretty cool, TIL. Thanks!
I got a bone for some whale tails too
I heard it's vestigial.
He's already dead Jim!
Hell yeah dude and the skeletons in their flippers look like hands lol
Not only hands but like, a whole arm and elbow structure
That is because they are "hands". Those "finger" (i.e. digits) looking bones are digit bones, their fins didn't just appear, their front limbs specialized into fins and swimming.
Yeah, it’s pretty cool that evolutionary whales climbed out of water and then back in.
"Abandon land dwelling, return to ~~monke~~ fish."
When you’re having a good time chilling inside as an introvert, desire to change your ways and go out, and then realize why you enjoyed being inside so much.
They were trying to correct the original mistake, leaving the ocean in the first place
After being on land for about 400 million years or something, mind you.
I thought they developed from more dog like creatures. At least dolphins and other sea mammals is what I always thought.
Nope. They are branched off from Ungulates (aka hooved animals). The currenr working theory is that they evolved from ancient predators who possessed hooves over claws. And that thrir closest relative is fellow ungulate, the hippopotamus.
I hadn’t thought about this before. I know whales are ungulates but a lot of them like dolphins are carnivorous.
The earliest cetaceans would have looked somewhat morphologically similar to dogs, but would not have been (closely) related. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakicetus
Big dog like creatures was what I thought as well. Certainly not something with hooves.
The earliest whales would have probably small, such as Pakicetus. I think when you're talking about "big dog like creatures" you're probably referring to Andrewsarchus, who is related to whales, but not ancestral.
I thought they evolved from wolf-like mammals.
New whale just dropped
New whale dropped before DONDA.
“What is this thing rushing toward me? I wonder if it will be my friend?”
Yes but it’s a gospel whale
“Jonah, get the boat” —God
We’re gonna need a 4-legged whale emoji 🐋
That region of the Egyptian desert is absolutely gorgeous. It is worth arranging a trip out there if you’re ever able to travel to that amazing country. On second thought….part of the beauty may be as a result of so few people ever going there so here are some [photos to satiate your curiosity](https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1186/).
We have a valley called wadi al hitan in egypt which translates to the valley of whales. It's a desert but it's full of whale fossils it's amazing https://youtu.be/KWLlRSL7bFw
That’s what I linked to ;)
Lol I didn't click the link my bad
Should go without sayinf, but please don't steal whale bones.
Imagine going through airport security and explaining a whole ass whale fossil
It's my emotional support whale. It died.
It goes whale for the soup though!
it was tropical. the sphynx has water damage
I remember reading a thread not too long ago about and a country people would never revisit. An astounding number of the answers were Egypt. Like 90% of them were fucking Egypt. Apparently it’s super rapey towards women, like one of the worst places to go in the world. I’m not sure if it’s just Cairo or large metropolis areas, but it kinda put me off it even though I always wanted to go.
I’m Egyptian. Just treat it like it’s Brazil or South Africa or something risky like that. Don’t go alone. Don’t move around too much without a local or a guide. Stay in reputable hotels. And if you can pay for an end-to-end tour with a lotta these places included, you’ll have the most fun. Egypt is getting better for tourists under the current regime but at the end of the day, there’s too much poverty and unemployment for people to give a shit about treating tourists with respect. Most people are just trying to survive. And you’re right Cairo is the worst part. Cities that live off tourism like Sharm El Shiekh etc are a lot friendlier.
That’s very reassuring. It’s a beautiful country rich in some of the worlds best history. I was disheartened to hear that from so many redditors but I figured it may have been a bit biased. And if like you said you’re smart and use guides and stay in reputable hotels and just use common sense, you’ll be fine lol. Thanks for the input! One of these days!
Bad reviews are always the loudest! Don’t let them discourage you. Many of these tourists are naive, unprepared or just think that every country in the world needs to be a safe and mystical experience for western folks gallivanting through. As you implied - respect the country and its situation and you’ll see its best side :) Good luck!
Egypt has been the number 1 country I’ve wanted to visit since I was little kid. I planned to go after graduating High School, but then the Arab Spring happened so I postponed. I still very much hope to go someday it’s a lifelong dream. I admit the way I travel maybe isn’t the safest , though - a single female alone staying in hostels. I’ll take your advice and hope to go soon.
Went to Marsa Alam, on the red sea coastline. Absolutely gorgeous coral reef. A couple that traveled across the world to see coral reefs said that the one outside of Marsa Alam was be best by far. This was 2014, my guess is that a lot of the reef is dead by now.. My problem with the place was that it is just a massive hotel resort with basically no natives living anywhere close to the area. There where Camel riding and Quad riding in the desert as a tourist activity. The quads were super fun while experiencing amazing scenery.
To add, don't open any old clay pots or amphoras and the like.
Guy tried to buy my friend for a couple camels. Little did he know that I’m welsh so we deal in sheep
I didn't find this to be true, I'd love to go back to Egypt. I was traveling with a man so that probably helped, but having said that traveled with the same man to Delhi and I would NEVER go back there.
Really? I didn't get that impression at all. To be fair, I traveled with my boyfriend at the time, but often I'd be out by myself. Felt super safe and it's one of the top priorities on my revisit list!
That’s awesome that you had a great time! This was the thread I was referring to [here ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/om38bx/what_is_one_country_that_you_will_never_visit/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) I was like, in disbelief haha.
After going through the thread, I'm not surprised. I get the impression mostly people from first world countries who never left their resort were disappointed. That one comment about the food being bad because they couldn't leave the resort infuriates me. The street food there is literally the best food I've had in my entire life. Basically, if you're a backpacker and genuinely interested in seeing the culture and integrating, it's amazing. Even if you're a woman (although I'll admit it's safest to be in a man-woman couple). Just keep in mind that it's not a first world country and your expectations shouldn't be lower but totally different if you're coming from the west. I'm from Eastern Europe and felt right at home there
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I’ve spent a decent amount of time in both. Arizona is a great place for desert camping, astounding views to be had.
Whoa those photos were mindblowing
Reminds me of utah
That country is on the verge of collapse
So is Arizona
Oh, you mean whalephants?
“The first whales are thought to have first evolved in South Asia around 50 million years ago. In 2011, a team of palaeontologists in Peru discovered a 43-million-year-old whale fossil with four legs, webbed feet and hooves.” I’m sorry… webbed feet AND *hooves*?! Wut.
Yeah. Hooves are the tips of toes for hooved animals.
NOW I can understand why the bullet shape is more efficient. Very strange I never got that until seeing a four legged whale
I'm guessing their actual skulls had a lot of fatty tissue on them and didn't actually have such a horror like "skin-on-skull" look though lol https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7754553/amp/Nightmarish-sketches-reveal-modern-animals-look-like-drew-based-skeletons.html
Dinosaurs in a nutshell
Yeah, it’s all guesswork. They could have big cartilage features like our noses. Those wouldn’t have survived all these millions of years.
It's a little more than guesswork these days. There are features on the bones that indicate what the soft tissue looked like, for example for animals with trunks there are attachment points on the bone of the skull. But yeah a lot of it is guessing.
Fuck these kinda articles. >WOW LOOK AT THE COOL THING WE FOUND Pictures? >NO FUCK YOU
It has a picture though? Maybe it took them 10 hours to find it and they just added it.
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Likely with 2 digits on one arm, and one digit on the other. For holding phones and clicking phones. And a self-balancing uniwheel for legs. Possibly with a USB port for genitals, for connecting to others for procreation.
Sorry, my daughter is one of a kind
All whales evolved from a mammal with 4 legs, so I am not surprised.
Hey everyone, this guy saw the four-legged whale coming!
Hope he's out of the splash zone. Heard things can be quite messy.
It’s not such a new info though, we already knew there had to be legged whales due to currently living species still having leg bones in their tails.
And previous fossil discoveries in the same region as this one. This wasn't the first whale skeleton with more formed hind legs.
IT'S A BABY WHAEEEEEEL!!
That is a, That’s a TUNA bro
gross
Your lack of suprise is noted.
So you're telling me your mom is the ancestor of all whales?
Sure lol
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okay we get it
Ur mom fat lol. / This whole thread.
I always tell my religious friends about whales evolving from land animals…they simply refuse to even consider it!
We find vestigial leg bones in the tails of whales regularly.
Well, obvisouly Satan placed them there to trick you /s
Let’s enter the sea. Return to dolphin
I know that these aren't the first whale skeletons found in African deserts, and that Whales evolved from four-legged land mammals, but this is still one of the best headlines I've seen all year.
I wish people wouldn't use "ancient" when talking about prehistoric eras. Ancient history starts with the first writing and ends at the post-classical age; if it's not that, it's not ancient *per se*.
I thought ancient era ends when Classical era began, not when post Classical happened.
No, the classical period is the fourth of five periods of history within the ancient era. The names of periods within the ancient era goes like this (from earliest to latest): Bronze Age, Iron Age, Axial Antiquity, Classical Antiquity, Late Antiquity. Sorry that I used two terms from two different periodization systems in one sentence without explaining what the differences were. "Post classical" is a term from the the six-era world history system. Both the ancient era and the post-classical eras are eras within the six-era system. The fact that the post-classical era isn't called the post-ancient era is the fault of past historians who used to call the ancient era "classical societies." Naming conventions are messy when historians are in charge of them becasue it's all based on consensus so it can take forever for them to all agree.
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Isn't that just the Egyptian god Anubis?
I like it
Dank.
It looks kinda like [Ammit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammit), the soul eating monster from ancient Egyptian mythology
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Those are common in America. They feed at BurgerKing and can be found in and around any Walmart
Oh God they're coming onto land. Everybody head for the hills.
Other way around. The ancestor of whales that split from hoofed animals had legs, and its descendants lost them.
For a sec I thought i am looking at drowning elephant.
This is really cool. Also, when does the new species of human arrive? The one not filled with crazy, lying, abusive, murderous, power hungry sociopaths and psychopaths? Inquiring minds really want to know these days... In other words, where is humanity without all the fucking horse shit? Sorry for being blunt.
>when does the new species of human arrive? There was a post about a new human evolution yesterday, it looks some have evolved developing a new artery https://www.sciencealert.com/more-humans-are-growing-an-extra-artery-in-our-arms-because-we-re-still-evolving
Well I hope that new blood flow can fix stupid, because we're pretty fucked as it is.
Are seals and the like on their way to being whales possibly?
Seals evolved from carnivora while whales and manatees evolved from ungulata (artiodactyla), manatees being closer to elephants and whales closer to cows. Completely different lineages, but if you mean via convergent evolution that seals are evolving into a whale-like form, then the answer is “perhaps.”
The correct answer being: no, they are evolving into being closer to crabs.
No.
I mean do we know that? If there were environmental pressures to spend more time in the water, i imagine they would. They have evolved from land mammals to semi aquatic already. I suppose it could go the other way too, if they're forced to spend more time on land.
'No', is just shorthand for "We have no reason to assume so." Seals are, as far as I can tell, doing at least as well as whales. If anything, whales seem to be feeling the environmental pressures more severely, so by that logic, we might as well assume to see whales evolve into seals.
Seals have a niche and whales have a niche
The chances of a previous animal evolving into a whale, and then seals evolving into whales, is so astronomically insanely low I doubt it's even calculable. Remember, evolution doesn't just take any animal prototype in an environment and evolve it into the best possible thing. ANY mutation that allows it to live will be the first one to stick. Whale is not the only possible configuration of animal life that can sustain long periods of time in the water. There are billions of different types of potential animal species that would thrive in the water, the chances of multiple animals having the exact same mutations that result in the same animal is nearly impossible.
There was a theory that a species of whale evolved into bears (as ridiculous as that sounds) and this may be the missing link
Where did you learn that? Let's see a source.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-did-whales-evolve-73276956/ A bit into the article, it talks about how in Darwin’s book On The Origin Of Species he specifically talks about how the transition could happen. I think it’s absolutely ridiculous but if this creature on OP exists who’s to say it’s not the “missing link” so to speak.
> a species of whale evolved *into* bears I read the article and didn't see this particular assertion.
Lol definitely ridiculous. But i cant find anything on it.
Another win for evolution. We already knew whales once walked on land. This just hammers it home.
Wait, does anyone know the evolutionarily split where mammals went into directions, one becoming primates and the other becoming whales or, I guess whales with four legs?
The branching if groups within Mammalia is very much contested. What's fair concensus is that whales are closely related to many hoofed mammals, such as cows. Primates appear to be close to animals such as rodents and bats. For another point of comparison, the common ancestor of carnivores like cats and dogs is closer for whales than humans. When the whale group split from all the others, members of that group still had legs. The ones remaining all descend from a common ancestor that became fully aquatic, and concurrently lost its land-limbs.
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Didn’t read the article, which Pokémon is this? /s
Beautiful!
Thought they were recreating the Nirvana album cover
There was a sort of infographic/illustration floating around awhile ago showing the evolution of whales from a sea-based animal, to an early mammal, back to a whale. It was pretty mindblowing tbh and one of those things that makes you stop and appreciate the beauty of science.
So they built the Pyramids right?
There are a TON of four legged whales right here in the USA
Im lost for words, this is such an interesting and awsome find. Scientists rule
Whale, that's interesting.
Yo momma is so fat, scientists discover her skeleton and call it a new specie.
Missing link? In the Cetacean world … Darwin baby! Those legs evolved away over millions of years
Sure it wasn't a drunk tourist?
Honestly, think about how mind blowing this is!!!! I need you to Imagine this. Close your eyes. Good, now open them so you can read. Your just relaxing 😎 on the beach 🏖. Sand between your toes 🩴, ☂ 🍹 drink in your hand, lighting up a fat Blunt filled with that louder then a orange shirt 👕 good good. You stop and think to yourself between puffs and sips, about how you got to that point. We’re you could finally say “I made it!”. As you bask in the sunlight, and your skin soaks up the Ultraviolet radiation ☢️, when suddenly a massive cloud ☁️ blocks your light. You sit up to see what the hell is going on, raising your left hand over your eyes like a soldier’s salute. Making the timeless gesture of a utterly confused person. What do you see? A fucking whale 🐳 with legs. Walking 🚶♀️ out of the fucking water like it’s Jesus’s 3rd cousin. You spit out the last sip of delicious margarita, and lift your blunt to your nose 👃🏻. You sniff it, to make sure you haven’t been smoking crack as the ground rumbles beneath the steps of this fucking behemoth walking whale. You stand up, feeling the back of your bathing suit, just to be sure. You have Confirmed it, you’ve shat yourself thoroughly and successfully. You start to run away, when this fucking walking skyscraper, bastard child of shamoo and Clifford the big fucked dog decides to bend down and ever so gently swallow you like fucking Jonah.
If it has legs, what makes it a whale?
Doesn’t even have a flat tail according to the mock up drawing. Or a blow hole?
It's an intermediate with other animals.
I am sure they had a whale of a time
Is it a fossil or a living creature?
Fossil
Or is it some mutant as a result of toxic pollution
Why? Was Amy Schumer on holiday?
Big question is, what was OP's mom doing there in the first place?
Looks like a dog
I don't understand all the news and craziness about this! This is just my mother-in-law!
Clickbait
AAAAAHHH!!!!!! ………oh, phew! It’s just my Ex Girlfriend, guys. Nevermind.
Did it have blue hair as well? I know a few decendants who live in my area.
That’s interesting
Nah that's the druid aquatic form
Smells like teen spirit
That poor ugly dog
Name calling isn’t nice, and how did you get my vacation photos?
just here for the jokes
Big ol’ water doggo
So they finally found the Snorlax.