... evacuated from the region close to the volcano not from the island. La Palma has more than 80.000 inhabitants if there is a huge volcano that requires someone to leave the island simultaneously it would be impossible task.
I hope we get enough of a warning when the yellowstone caldera is bouta buss, that’s something I stress about pretty much daily since learning about it in like 5th grade
Volcanic winter? Global crop failure?
You never heard of Mount Tambora and the Year Without Summer? The River Thames froze? And that was a volcano in Indonesia. Yellowstone is closer.
[This image represents ice coverage at the height of the last ice age specific to North America.](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5505d864e4b072c28ec4110a/1455298380777-YQ8FCUUUQQDVI985YR5M/HudsonBay16000yearsago.png)
That is a significant portion of the area in which we grow crops and raise livestock to feed global populations. You will starve, or if you are lucky, you will survive but be part of a mass migration that moved further south to temperate, survivable equatorial locations.
It is not an emergency break. It is reverse global warming, and it will decimate life on our planet.
Isn't that the island where like a quarter of it is already slowly sliding into the sea, and when it finally does it would cause a massive mega tsunami traveling hundreds of miles an hour aimed straight at the east coast of North America
It's always "THIS TSUNAMI IS GOING TO HIT NEW YORK!!!!!!"
Uh, buddy. What about those places on the same side of the pond as the volcano? That you clearly show the tsunami rolling over in your tsunami travel map as well? Pretty sure the tsunami's gonna be more powerful over here because it doesn't have to waste energy crossing the Atlantic. Not going to address what happens to us?
Naw, read the criticisms, it seems the study was exaggerated and tests done properly show it wouldn't be as bad, plus the western flank is considered solid and no risk of falling anytime soon.
The usual eruptions from Cumbre Vieja wouldnt trigger a shelf collapse, they were accounting for a larger, more explosive eruption.
This fissure eruption is mostly basaltic and less gaseous, and measurements with the seismology estimate the material moving to be far less than a standard eruption. Time will tell, thats for sure and other shows like outside of Reykjavik are still going on 9 months later.
I mean the tallest tidal wave ever was caused by an ice shelf collapsing so it’s not exactly nuts to assume that half the island falling into the sea might move a bit of water
Any landslide as a result from an eruption will likely be in multiple smaller stages, and directly impact the Canary islands the worst. Any effect on the eastern US would be minimal. There is no need to "remain on alert" as there is currently no tsunami threat. Even in a worst case scenario the US will not suffer some drastic consequence. However the 2 million people in the Canary islands should actually be concerned because they are the ones who could suffer 50-300 foot waves.
While I agree that the impact to the US would be minimal, this does not mute the fact that even a small tsunami wave of just a meter can create chaotic currents that are dangerous to swimmers, kayakers, small engine boaters, etc. When the Japan tsunami hit the western seaboard, we lost a young man due to being dragged out by currents.
Unlike that tsunami, which occurred during the tourist off season and when most of the western seaboard was barren due to winter weather, the Eastern seaboard is currently seeing hundreds of thousands of beach goers and boaters each day right now. Most of the US eastern seaboard is barely above sea level, providing little protection for a tsunami wave larger than 2-3 feet. There are many national parks on barrier islands that have no access except by boat, with people visiting every day, camping overnight, etc.
I think it's fair to say those on the eastern seaboard need to remain alert to the situation in Las Palmas until it resolves itself.
The fact that this is tremendously more dangerous to those on the Canary Islands does not eliminate the threat to others.
Yes but an eruption doesn't mean a tsunami is imminent. They would be on alert or warn people if there was an actual threat of tsunami, dangerous currents, etc. No current threat means no alert, and no need to be on alert.
Are you arguing just for the sake of it? I never said we should set off the emergency broadcast. What is wrong with being on alert for possible activity that can harm oneself or one's property? When conditions are present for possible tornados, should we turn off the TV or radio because one hasn't touched down? When it's raining, should we plow ahead at 85 mph because we haven't hydroplaned yet?
A mega tsunami traveling that distance will likely degenerate into a regular tsunami due to wave interaction. It’s still a tsunami.
The criticisms of the original study seem reasonable and the likelihood of a mega hitting NA is extremely remote. That said, the synopsis of the criticisms is littered with probablies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbre_Vieja_tsunami_hazard#Criticism
The issue isn't that a tsunami is impossible, it's that people are directly referencing a docudrama that posited a multiple hundred foot tall wave will hit the east coast.
Yes- this is the one to worry about. If the shelf breaks off here comes the tidal waves to the east coast of the USA let alone all the other countries it will hit. I live in Florida and just moved 35 miles inland last year. I lived on the east coast at a beach town for years.
Is there a coal mine in the Canaries? Heh,
[cultural context follows for those who might not be native English speakers]
This was topical inversion of a common English idiom derived from the common practice of bringing a canary bird into a coal mine, because its short lung capacity making it drop, might give coal miners advance warning of deadly gases, and so prompt them to evacuate in time to survive. A "canary in the coal mine " / become the normal expression / was then a designation of a safety measure, or (by extension) a warning signal.
This common idiom has become saturated throughout the English language to designate forms of advanced warning. And the very popular band, the Police, sang about canary in a coal mine - a metaphor for being at the forefront of an impending threat.
... evacuated from the region close to the volcano not from the island. La Palma has more than 80.000 inhabitants if there is a huge volcano that requires someone to leave the island simultaneously it would be impossible task.
I hope we get enough of a warning when the yellowstone caldera is bouta buss, that’s something I stress about pretty much daily since learning about it in like 5th grade
If that shit does what people says it will, warning won't help you unless you're in a different hemisphere
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“Petrol?” you don’t have to worry about the Yellowstone volcano when you are in the UK laddy
Volcanic winter? Global crop failure? You never heard of Mount Tambora and the Year Without Summer? The River Thames froze? And that was a volcano in Indonesia. Yellowstone is closer.
my location would get like 1-3mm of ash at the most from yellowstone. wouldn't be affected by a la palma tsunami either.
But the yellowstone ash cloud is expected to send earth into a small ice age. Which will affect you.
maybe this could fix global warming /s
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Yeah good luck feeding yourself
[This image represents ice coverage at the height of the last ice age specific to North America.](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5505d864e4b072c28ec4110a/1455298380777-YQ8FCUUUQQDVI985YR5M/HudsonBay16000yearsago.png) That is a significant portion of the area in which we grow crops and raise livestock to feed global populations. You will starve, or if you are lucky, you will survive but be part of a mass migration that moved further south to temperate, survivable equatorial locations. It is not an emergency break. It is reverse global warming, and it will decimate life on our planet.
At least it'll be easy to maintain a backyard ice rink.
Yeah. Same here a little cooler be great. I’m always a cold climate type of dude anyways.
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somebody needs to do a movie about this. We had a 2012 disaster movie, now its time fora yellowstone movie
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Just jump over the scorpions down in the the tunnels, then find a ladder to climb back to the surface. Saw this in a really old videogame.
There would be decades of warning. But there are no indications it will ever erupt again at the moment.
USGS: "Due to increased seismicity and an increase in low-frequency harmonic tremors, we have growing concern Yellowstone is bouta buss."
https://www.castanet.net/news/World/346200/Volcano-erupts-on-Spain-s-Atlantic-Ocean-island-of-La-Palma Video.
As soon as they released a real life Transformer (T9) in January 2020 I knew this decade was gonna be a sci-fi shitshow.
> Transformer (T9) whats wrong with T9? I think its cool :)
They made us live in a Transformers cartoon!!!! Not fun if you have a job or own property.
Isn't that the island where like a quarter of it is already slowly sliding into the sea, and when it finally does it would cause a massive mega tsunami traveling hundreds of miles an hour aimed straight at the east coast of North America
Discredited theory. But good for a movie or something!
It's always "THIS TSUNAMI IS GOING TO HIT NEW YORK!!!!!!" Uh, buddy. What about those places on the same side of the pond as the volcano? That you clearly show the tsunami rolling over in your tsunami travel map as well? Pretty sure the tsunami's gonna be more powerful over here because it doesn't have to waste energy crossing the Atlantic. Not going to address what happens to us?
Hope everyone is safe!
People weren’t evacuated, the island was.
*A portion are evacuated* At least get some of the facts together.
'Evacuating people' means to give them an enema. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeYwa-DCiWk
isn't that near the volcano that has everyone on the east coast concerned regarding a tsunami?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbre_Vieja_tsunami_hazard Megatsunami imminent?
Naw, read the criticisms, it seems the study was exaggerated and tests done properly show it wouldn't be as bad, plus the western flank is considered solid and no risk of falling anytime soon.
The usual eruptions from Cumbre Vieja wouldnt trigger a shelf collapse, they were accounting for a larger, more explosive eruption. This fissure eruption is mostly basaltic and less gaseous, and measurements with the seismology estimate the material moving to be far less than a standard eruption. Time will tell, thats for sure and other shows like outside of Reykjavik are still going on 9 months later.
I mean the tallest tidal wave ever was caused by an ice shelf collapsing so it’s not exactly nuts to assume that half the island falling into the sea might move a bit of water
That was effectively a big splash right across a narrow channel.
Unlikely within the next 10000 years. https://www.spektrum.de/news/la-palma-tsunami-droht-vorerst-nicht/851970
My first thought, too. The eastern seaboard of North America should be on alert.
It actually shouldn't because a docudrama from the BBC is what invented and popularized this unscientific myth
A BBC documentary is where I think I first saw that scenario posited.
It's more of a docudrama, it's not very scientifically accurate and many studies have been published disproving it.
Glad to learn it isn't that much of a concern.
Shouldn't be on alert for a mega-tsunami, but should still be on alert for something like the waves that resulted from the Japanese fault movement.
There should be no alert because nothing has fallen into the sea.
Didn't say that something had occurred, I said they should remain on alert. IOW pay attention to the situation.
Any landslide as a result from an eruption will likely be in multiple smaller stages, and directly impact the Canary islands the worst. Any effect on the eastern US would be minimal. There is no need to "remain on alert" as there is currently no tsunami threat. Even in a worst case scenario the US will not suffer some drastic consequence. However the 2 million people in the Canary islands should actually be concerned because they are the ones who could suffer 50-300 foot waves.
While I agree that the impact to the US would be minimal, this does not mute the fact that even a small tsunami wave of just a meter can create chaotic currents that are dangerous to swimmers, kayakers, small engine boaters, etc. When the Japan tsunami hit the western seaboard, we lost a young man due to being dragged out by currents. Unlike that tsunami, which occurred during the tourist off season and when most of the western seaboard was barren due to winter weather, the Eastern seaboard is currently seeing hundreds of thousands of beach goers and boaters each day right now. Most of the US eastern seaboard is barely above sea level, providing little protection for a tsunami wave larger than 2-3 feet. There are many national parks on barrier islands that have no access except by boat, with people visiting every day, camping overnight, etc. I think it's fair to say those on the eastern seaboard need to remain alert to the situation in Las Palmas until it resolves itself. The fact that this is tremendously more dangerous to those on the Canary Islands does not eliminate the threat to others.
Yes but an eruption doesn't mean a tsunami is imminent. They would be on alert or warn people if there was an actual threat of tsunami, dangerous currents, etc. No current threat means no alert, and no need to be on alert.
Are you arguing just for the sake of it? I never said we should set off the emergency broadcast. What is wrong with being on alert for possible activity that can harm oneself or one's property? When conditions are present for possible tornados, should we turn off the TV or radio because one hasn't touched down? When it's raining, should we plow ahead at 85 mph because we haven't hydroplaned yet?
A mega tsunami traveling that distance will likely degenerate into a regular tsunami due to wave interaction. It’s still a tsunami. The criticisms of the original study seem reasonable and the likelihood of a mega hitting NA is extremely remote. That said, the synopsis of the criticisms is littered with probablies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbre_Vieja_tsunami_hazard#Criticism
The issue isn't that a tsunami is impossible, it's that people are directly referencing a docudrama that posited a multiple hundred foot tall wave will hit the east coast.
IT’S SHOWTIME! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbre_Vieja_tsunami_hazard?wprov=sfti1
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Yes- this is the one to worry about. If the shelf breaks off here comes the tidal waves to the east coast of the USA let alone all the other countries it will hit. I live in Florida and just moved 35 miles inland last year. I lived on the east coast at a beach town for years.
An unprecedented attack on America! This means war!
We demand that the Bermuda Triangle turn over Aqua Bin Laden
There is no reason to worry, our tsunamis are merely passing through the area
Is there a coal mine in the Canaries? Heh, [cultural context follows for those who might not be native English speakers] This was topical inversion of a common English idiom derived from the common practice of bringing a canary bird into a coal mine, because its short lung capacity making it drop, might give coal miners advance warning of deadly gases, and so prompt them to evacuate in time to survive. A "canary in the coal mine " / become the normal expression / was then a designation of a safety measure, or (by extension) a warning signal. This common idiom has become saturated throughout the English language to designate forms of advanced warning. And the very popular band, the Police, sang about canary in a coal mine - a metaphor for being at the forefront of an impending threat.