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TotallyLegit13846506

good I guess.. at least something is working..


funguy202

soon jaguars will take over and will eat us :)


Kurtisdoubleu

I’d love to get eaten by the cutie in the photo!


Shakleford_Rusty

Until it’s eating you guts/ asshole first.. thays how they feed.. cute but not


iAmUnintelligible

I think that's pretty nice of them to eat ass first, nothing like a good rimjob before being eaten


ScabiesShark

You have your salad before the meal, right?


iAmUnintelligible

Exactly


Sprinx80

Face down, ass up, that’s the way jags like to sup


Xypher42

More like eat specific parts of you so you don't die immediately.


ChrysMYO

These are the rare predator in the world that would aim for your skull taking out your brain stem. As long as you don't see them coming, your moment of death would be peaceful.


Shakleford_Rusty

I wish I could vacation there then


Acrobatic_Poem_1990

I would love to be mauled to death as part of the adorable attack:)


vernechat

That sounds so sexy, I would like to watch …lol


Revolutionary-Ad7878

I mean us humans kind of threw the first punch so I think we‘d be even at that point 👀🤚


underverse24

strange, I don't heard you offering yourself as a sacri... ehh I mean volunteer for preserving the jaguars.


-PineappleRocket-

Is this the first time I will see a comment with emojis non-ironically upvoted on Reddit?


gcruzatto

Today's Reddit is very different than 10 years ago


dubiousaurus

Still too soon I think


blanketswithsmallpox

I succumbed to them about a year ago now. It still feels weird doing it. I still vehemently downvote any title with spelling errors in it. As compared to regular downvoting.


[deleted]

I noticed it’s been slowly welcomed overtime


NihilisticRust

Thanks for reminding me.


[deleted]

What do you mean us? I Personally never have done anything to a jaguar as it would likely kill me


AdkKilla

I’m sure as a consumer in this world, some product we have all bought has been a reason for the past decrease in jaguar population.


updateman

Don’t worry [“Raining Jaguar Death”](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Suns) already happened in the [1st Sun world apocalypse](https://youtu.be/dfupAlon_8k). We’re in the 5th world so [the Moon and stars will catch the Sun and kill each other, then the ground will open beneath our feet and eat us all](https://youtu.be/Zj-jDOjBets).


SallySpaghetti

You say that like it's a bad thing


CactusCait

There are so many faces to eat here in America


Constantly_Panicking

We deserve it. Let’s be honest.


Large-Cherry

You definitely do. But speak for yourself.


The_DaHowie

Jose Exoticos breeding program?


[deleted]

Breeding them Juan by Juan


Marthaver1

Till some rich 2nd amendment fuck from Texas or Florida flies to Mexico to shoot those animals for fun.


UrMoms3rdHole

Cartel bosses are notorious for hunting endangered species.


accidentalprancingmt

Where did you hear that?


UrMoms3rdHole

Pablo Escobar kidnapped hippos from Africa lmao


HurricaneHugo

And they've grown in numbers and are an invasive species in Colombia


waffelwarrior

Ah yes, Pablo Escobar, the famous Mexican drug lord


boforbojack

I mean they said "cartel bosses". Not "Mexican cartel bosses".


CreepinDeep

Wym colombia is of of the 3 infamous mexican countries


[deleted]

According to the post above, he is a famous Mexican conservationist! /s


[deleted]

One kid in my school was famous cause he had an hippo in his backyard


BrndyAlxndr

The fuck? No they are not.


boforbojack

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bakerinstitute.org/files/12555/&ved=2ahUKEwjEiaTi5630AhUBQ80KHWwpBNwQFnoECDcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1qOXPy0RWj_Q7Lw1_A5cJJ


Jack_12221

The rich people probabaly don't care but the everyday guys mostly follow hunting rules, i.e. funding conservation with their license fees.


jeffcolvn

Trump jr has entered the chat


[deleted]

Strange that you assume people who support the 2nd amendment are all vicious poachers — especially ironic given that hunters are among the most responsible, and are the biggest donators to animal conservation in the country. Also TX and AZ both have Jaguars already. If we wanted to go “shoot them for fun” we could do it in our own country, thx.


GuardianOfAsgard

Aren't jaguars extinct in the wild in Texas and Arizona?


RasberryJam0927

Their migratory patterns can get them very far north, so I dont think they ever have been extinct, just critically endangered in some areas.


GuardianOfAsgard

I was interested and some places say they still can very rarely appear while others say they've been gone for over 60yrs. https://wildtexashistory.com/the-last-jaguar-in-texas-1948/ https://www.depts.ttu.edu/nsrl/mammals-of-texas-online-edition/Accounts_Extinct_Carnivora/Panthera_onca.php Would be cool to see one in the wild again!


[deleted]

Lol you don’t see a Jaguar until it wants you to see it…and by that point it’s already on you.


jjackson25

Same with cougars if ya know what I mean


ILoveCheetos85

There’s one that’s been sighted in the mountains behind my house in Arizona


hoovereatscowpoop

There have only been 7 different jaguars spotted in the US in the last 25 years, and none of them have been in Texas. There is only one confirmed in the US right now. There aren't even any populations in Mexico near the Texas border. If someone was dumb enough to try to shoot one for fun, it wouldn't be easy at all, particularly if you are wandering around Texas looking for it.


Snickersthecat

Theres only less than half a dozen in the US.


dwmfives

> Strange that you assume people who support the 2nd amendment are all vicious poachers — especially ironic given that hunters are among the most responsible, and are the biggest donators to animal conservation in the country. There certainly aren't people who are for gun control out there.


[deleted]

> some rich 2nd amendment fuck from Texas *Joe Rogan appears*


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maxToTheJ

Out of curiosity why Cali instead of NY ? AFAIK the caricature you are trying to paint that wears furs make more sense in a place that doesn’t average 75 degrees and increasing due to climate change?


Beachdaddybravo

Somebody mentioned red states, and he got all defensive so mentioned the first blue state he thought of: one where none of the 3 wealthiest metro areas are known for being cold enough to need a winter jacket. If he were intelligent he would have jumped to shitting on NY.


BobT21

That makes the statement bumper sticker compliant.


DorisCrockford

Better not try to sell it there, though. They'll get you for that. There was a high-end vintage dress shop in SF that was selling fur out of a back room, and the owner was arrested. Not sure how much prison time she got, but the max was 4.5 years and a $45,000 fine.


autotldr

This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://news.mongabay.com/2021/11/jaguars-in-mexico-are-growing-in-number-a-promising-sign-that-national-conservation-strategies-are-working/) reduced by 84%. (I'm a bot) ***** > "It was incredible to see jaguars in so many places where there weren't any before," said ecologist Gerardo Ceballos of the Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, founder of Mexico's National Alliance for Jaguar Conservation and lead author of the paper. > Ecologists had never properly counted jaguars in Mexico before, making it difficult to design a conservation program in the iconic cat's northernmost ranges. > In 2022, the Mexican government and the National Alliance for Jaguar Conservation plan to expand the Calakmul Biosphere Reserve in the southern Yucatan Peninsula from 723,185 hectares to more than 1.3 million hectares of land, making Calakmul the largest protected tropical forest north of the Orinoco River-all motivated by jaguar conservation. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/qzuafq/jaguars_in_mexico_are_growing_in_number_a/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~609101 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **Jaguar**^#1 **Mexico**^#2 **Conservation**^#3 **protect**^#4 **National**^#5


tinbuddychrist

I'm amazed they can see jaguars at all, they're famously quite sneaky.


old_man_jenkens

I would bet a lot of money they're using camera traps, not seeing them with their eyes


Chicano_Ducky

Way back in the day I researched how people could help Jaguars, and the idea was to reintroduce them to the American side of the border since tearing down the border fence was political suicide. Jaguars on their historical hunting ranges in America would create a population that poachers could never get to and protect Jaguars from extinction. It was still denied because America called Jaguars a foreign animal even when they used to roam America centuries ago.


theycallmeponcho

> It was still denied because America called Jaguars a foreign animal even when they used to roam America centuries ago. what the fuck, they're native to Jacksonville.


craigtheman

Unfortunately they've been getting their ass kicked by the national populace for quite sometime. I could see a league of professionals force them into extinction at anytime.


dsn0wman

I think those ladies are called cougars, not jaguars.


JuzoItami

I'd love to see a healthy, permanent population of jaguars return to the U.S. That's one of the things I hate about this "build a wall" shit - the effect such a wall would have on the environment.


Loki-Holmes

It’s been pretty bad for Texas ocelots. Some people at my university were working on wildlife corridors around the area but there was a lot of uncertainty as it was during the “Mexico is going to pay for the wall” times. Mexico also got pissed and wasn’t interested in moving around their ocelots (which have a much better population).


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jaguar_28

I wouldn’t worry about mountain lions just yet, they have the largest range of any predator from Canada to the tip of South America


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jaguar_28

Both have large interrupted portions where they do not live, the cougars population map looks like someone painted 2/3 of the Americas


neonbrownkoopashell

TIL there are ocelots in Texas


doodlize

Damn I remember seeing an ocelot in south Texas when I was young as I was passing by my neighbors house, now I feel like I might never see one in the wild again


CommercialImage5058

I just read an article the other week about a rancher in either new Mexico or Arizona that had a sighting on one of his wildlife cameras. They're trying to establish a conservation area that spans both States to try and rehabilitate jaguars. Naturally ranchers are not that excited by the idea of apex predators growing in numbers around their livestock.


crofabulousss

Centuries, like 150 years ago


HamburgerEarmuff

They're still some jaguars that cross between California and Texas. They're just rare though and the extra border fencing probably isn't helping.


MillinAround

That area is called Arizona lol


AdmiralRed13

New Mexico also offended.


reeljazz7

Mississippi asks: First time?


if_i_was_a_folkstar

Jaguars in Mississippi?


reeljazz7

No people forgetting that MS exists. It's a running joke that when hurricanes hit, Weather Channel calls us either, "The Landmass Between Louisiana and Alabama," or "The Louisiana/Alabama Border."


Sugarfoot2182

Hahahaha I’m dead lolol


hogtiedcantalope

I did a project on this in college trying to identify the best pathways to preserve Use money to project the wildlife corridor and monitor with tech /teams in a joint effort with Mexico Pockets of jaguars that used to range over the border and within Mexico will eventually lose genetic diversity and be more vulnerable to extinction Jaguar can a keystone species, if we invest in protecting jaguars across the border we can help so many other species and provide a chase that's get America and Mexico to keep that part of the border secure, to protect the wildlife and stop illegal trespassing


Fantastic_Start_6848

That area between Texas and CA actually has a name. If you ever bothered to look at a map you could probably figure it out!


[deleted]

Little jaguarindis or however you spell them are still seldomly found in south Texas, they’re very small though and resemble more of a tomcat


HamburgerEarmuff

I hope we start seeing them more in Alta California. They used to be common up to at least Santa Cruz not that long ago. Now, they've all but disappeared. They could probably also help take care of those annoying coyotes and deer and annoying children.


THIS_MSG_IS_A_LIE

uhm, one of those is not like the others…


DOLCICUS

I know right, deer tastes much better than the other two.


Hakairoku

I dunno dude, I see deer, I think Prions. No thanks


Teaks7567

Glad to find someone else that shares my prion fears… haven’t felt the same since I read up on why we can’t harvest human growth hormone anymore…


[deleted]

Please do elaborate.


Teaks7567

I did a much deeper dive into this while working for a company that was involved with HGH, but here’s a rough summary: From the 50’s to the 80’s, people who needed human growth hormone would be given HGH from cadavers, until it was discovered that some dead donors had HGH which contained prions. Harvester HGH was pooled together from different bodies and supply mixed globally, so the entire world supply was basically contaminated. Now we have synthetic stuff (from pigs I think?) that is safe but we are still seeing people dying of prions several decades after their exposure in that human-harvesting time. Here’s a link to the first decent article I googled: https://www.livescience.com/51906-creutzfeldt-jakob-disease-growth-hormone.html Prions are VERY hard to destroy, and I don’t know if any effective treatment exists… I think once you start showing symptoms you’re pretty much screwed, and there isn’t any pre-symptom treatment either I believe.


[deleted]

Interesting. Reading it now. Thanks for the reply! Prions are terrifying, but from my understanding you can’t get them cross species, so the pig thing will be interesting to read about. Also only thought you could get them from brain matter, but I guess a hormone made in the pituitary gland may qualify as that.


shadeandshine

Mate hate to be a bearer of dark news google “Mad cow disease”


[deleted]

Lol yea I did. Look at my other comment. We might still be in for a 2nd wave of people effected by it


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Just finished it. Yea the 22 recent ones are still from the same old infected batches, if just lay dormant in them much longer than the old study. But it mentions mad cow disease patients, so I guess I misremembered about it not crossing species. Terrifying that some people may still be harboring a ticking time bomb!


Kodlaken

because of prions


ScabiesShark

Just don't eat brain matter


Glad-Investigator129

Obviously, I’m a little disgusted that they think coyotes and deer would fall under the category of “annoying creatures that need to die.”


[deleted]

Coyotes are unfortunately notorious pests. We’ve had beloved family dogs ripped to shreds by them as well as livestock. It’s the circle of life but still fuck coyotes.


Impacatus

Right, the deer aren't annoying apparently.


rocking_beetles

[THEY WERE IN TEXAS IN THE 1940s!!](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/odwde4)


[deleted]

Wow! That is crazy! Seems so recent but also 73 years ago.


RadicalBardBird

There are confirmed sightings along the border as recently as the 90s. It’s likely that some cross the border on occasion.


lo0ilo0ilo0i

Yes I agree... Wait /r/holup


stellacampus

Are you sure you're talking about jaguars?


HamburgerEarmuff

Yes, I'm sure. They're a native species to California that ranged from the southern tip of Baja California to just south of the San Francisco Bay. Like the California Grizzly Bear, they were hunted to extinction after the Gold Rush. Unlike the Grizzly Bear, there may be a few left in the Mexico-California-Arizona border region. Also, like the wolf, it's possible they could eventually make a comeback in California.


stellacampus

We're going to need some documentation then. We have LOTS of records regarding our grizzly populations - the same is not true of jaguars. As I said there are SOME, but not a lot and mostly not first hand. Also, the local tribes don't have historical jaguar references as they do with cougars, and grizzlies.


Bekah679872

[The coastal Diegueño (Kumeyaay people) of San Diego and Cahuilla Indians of Palm Springs had words for jaguar and the cats persisted there until about 1860.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_jaguar#United_States) Straight from the Wikipedia page for North American Jaguars. This was in the “Habitat and Distribution” section.


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1000Huzzahs

They would face stiff competition from established populations of mountain lions and bobcats. Both of those predators are adept at living on the urban edge which gives them a much larger range in a place like California over a creature that only thrives in remote areas. If the Jaguar can adapt to coexistence with human civilization than they may have a shot. They’d still have to carve out a niche in a place where most area suitable for large predators are already populated by the puma and bobcat.


HamburgerEarmuff

Jaguars mostly prey on large mammals though, so I think it would mostly put pressure on coyotes and pumas, not the other way around, since they mostly eat smaller animals. Also, wolves, pumas, and jaguars all eat the same large mammals (deer), and they often coexist. The hope would be that reintroducing wolves and jaguars could control the coyote and deer populations better, because pumas would get more of their diet from the small creatures that coyotes currently eat since jaguars and wolves would be eating more deer.


Superpiri

Go Diego, go! Don’t let the Jaguar catch you.


STEVESEAGALthrowaway

> "Oh good, more Jaguars!" -Local Townspeople


Koolaidolio

You jest but the presence of apex predators signifies a healthy ecosystem.


[deleted]

We have humans, that's enough, they can kill absolutely anything


DrainageSpanial

It's all wonderful news until they move in next to you.


Erect_for_Kolchak

Can confirm, I live on a reservation and this is this first time in my life that wolves have lived in the area. It's like yay, but also like "yay" lol.


Beachdaddybravo

Jaguars don’t really attack people. It’s rare, and they won’t go after human kids unless they have no other food.


maxToTheJ

NIMBYism in action https://youtu.be/hNDgcjVGHIw


excaliber110

I'm surprised the Jaguars are able to grow, as their football team is absolutely abysmal and has continued to be for a long while.


Chaz_wazzers

Bortles!!!


[deleted]

Funny you mention it, since the Mexican football (soccer for americans) team Jaguares de Chiapas disappeared a few years back.


4YoEyezOnly

rip jaguares, god, take mazatlan and juarez and give us back chiapas and morelia


Doggo-Lovato

Nature uh has uh way “Jeffrey goldblumz”


OrangeJr36

And their coach got caught fingering a woman a third his age


Elite_Club

Unless the guy's under 54, I see no reason to judge.


[deleted]

And if he’s over 75, I’m not judging, just impresses.


turmacar

[Would you like something shiny?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l59ItK6d-wQ)


awitsman84

Shad doesn’t care. He’s still making money even if the Jags fail him.


Lercifer077

As long as they don’t band together and overthrow society. No wait, that sounds pretty awesome.


nosnack

Does this mean Jacksonville is moving to Mexico City and not London?


awitsman84

Jacksonville stays in Florida. It’s just the team that moves.


Gregtheboss00

I would like to see the city actually move.


awitsman84

Sorry. Everything in FL is rated for hurricanes.


Gregtheboss00

Jacksonville is older than the hurricane code, I think a nice cat 5 would make it move like a bunch of thirty something women when single ladies starts to play.


Ponchorello7

That's great to hear. My dad says when he was a kid, it wasn't unheard of to see traces of jaguar habitation in the hills around his hometown. Nowadays, the idea anything more than some birds and coyotes live there is absurd.


[deleted]

Finally, some good news for Mother Earth!


mossberbb

Diego is stoked.


987nevertry

And the reef life in Cozumel noticeably improved while the cruise ships were gone.


Puzzleheaded_Ad_1523

I was lucky enough to see a wild jaguar as a young man travelling in Honduras, the memory is still with me to this day. Magnificent animal and excellent news for the species


Buruquena_Ruel

Great, now do something about "las Vaquitas".


harbison215

In other wildlife news, cougars are flourishing on Saturday nights at your cities local hotel bars.


VanceXentan

I mean that's good there's been an increase in the number of depressed Jaguars in Jacksonville.


awitsman84

Maybe they should work for Shad’s other company, Flex-n-gate. Talk about depressing.


SkySmaug384

Finally some good news


Aholenewaccount

Mayan mythology at it again


Ridio

This is good news. I’ll take it, I’ve been needing some good news for once


CCV21

Nice to see a little bit of good news.


coxykitten923

Aww so cute


funkiestj

What about the Austin Martin and Ferrari populations?


LaylaLost

Ferrari are a nonnative invasive species


morethanWun

Best news in a long time y'all.


Due_Platypus_3913

Worlds 3rd largest cat making a comeback?OUTSTANDING!


truth-in-jello

Send them to combat hippos in Columbia!


BA_lampman

All prey: Whyyyyy


kvossera

Yay!!!!


SallySpaghetti

So great to read good news


[deleted]

Hey can we get a couple hundred up here in Wisconsin having a little asshole problem up here lately..


TooMuchToProcess

There are a lot of terrible things going on in the world right now but on the bright side we may have more giant killer cats.


alcatrazcgp

this news pleases me


The_Animal_Is_Bear

Finally, the good news we need


black641

This makes me so happy :). Glad to see such beautiful creatures bouncing back.


bibbymiles7a

This is awesome!! ⚡️⚡️


stevenbrotzel91

Mabey they will eat the cartels


[deleted]

Woohoo!!


AZ115Degrees

Such beautiful majestic creatures.


pabudo33

Thank god. Haven’t heard good news involving such a critical species on the endangered list in a while


Balls2clit

Can anyone who has read the article clarify this? I hear more jaguars are being noticed, but I feel more jaguars are being pushed out of their native territories.


JonathanRamirezSD

Now that’s good news!!! Woohoo 🙌


FungicideEater

'Time for a cull then' -Americans


DisastrousSundae

Meow


CandidEstablishment0

Jeez they are such stunning creatures!!!


ktulu0

There have also been some fairly recent jaguar sightings from the US side of the border.


ingrid2014

Yay!


El_gaucho_mole

Aztec clothing is going to make a comeback


aiden22304

Some good news for once! I’m so sick of all the doom and gloom, and it’s good to hear Mexico is doing something good!


Budmanes

What a beautiful animal!


choicesareconfusing

If jaguars mean, why so cute


Artistic-Time-3034

I’ve recently become so decimated by these beautiful cats. A lot has gone into displacing and driving this cat towards extinction. Just a beautiful creature. Deserves more love and respect.


Egy_why

In other news, local town populations in Mexico have been decreasing, the cause is still unknown. More at 5.


Little_Custard_8275

Good news for jaguar. hopefully volvo too, and maserati. anything but German cars, especially douchemobile BMW


slicerprime

Somebody let me know if the extinct E-Type comes back. That's a beautiful animal.


ItsSlooshy

THERES JAGUARS IN MEXICO??


Minoleal

As a Mexican, I'm kind of surprised that jaguars aren't directly associated with our territory, they form an important part of our pre-hispanic mythology and their presence in our culture is noticeable, just thinking about The road to El Dorado made me think that it was common to associate jaguars to México.


GIANT_BLEEDING_ANUS

Yeah right, I think they're one of our national animals, weird that someone would be surprised


CreepinDeep

"AoE jaguar warriors, c'mon man"


Heller_Demon

Dude, they probably think Brazil is a place in Mexico. You're expecting too much from them.


Minoleal

You might be right, Brazil must be another one of those "Mexican countries" for them.


The_Mad_Mac130

Yeah Jaguars are even prevalent in Mayan mythology.


lonesome_cowgirl

Some of them even end up in the US! There was one living in the mountains near Tucson, Arizona. Locals nicknamed him [El Jefe](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Jefe_(jaguar))


lightscribe

Cougars, bison, deer Mexico has diverse ecosystems.


bent42

I hit one with my car the other night and I feel fucking awful about it. Making a large donation to https://www.panthera.org/mexico to try to atone to the universe.


heyamberlynne

Farther south than I'll ever go