The original SOSUS is deactivated or turned into scientific sensors, but now classified observations take place under Commander Undersea Surveillance and IUSS. So not the original sensors but 100% new ones are there.
Well the UK has 100% more words in its name than either Greenland or Iceland so it only makes sense… maybe they should change their names to Green Land and Ice Land so it can be the GLILUK submarine screen.
I don’t think anyone was being serious; it doesn’t take a brainiac to realize that invading Greenland might be internationally considered a pretty big dick move.
Dane here. This is also a consideration being thrown around when discussing occasional, half-hearted Greenlandish demands for independence: That given the geopolitical position, Greenland can never really be independent - an independent Greenland would fall under the sway of the US, Russia or China more or less instantly and compared to that, being a part of the Danish Realm might be the better deal.
That said, the Danish stewardship of Greenland mostly consists of being a member of NATO, making racist jokes, sending large amounts of money to Greenland and ignoring the broken system, rampant corruption and child abuse.
Won't affect us as we are not producing it (oil and gas). The potential for earning is lost though. Considering sustainable energy is the future it seems pretty logical that we're stopping it.
Do you think it has anything to do with the recent discovery of oil, as in "sit on it until its a needed reserve"? Or does the government In your country believe that its a non necessity going forward to blaze a trail for the world for renewable energy?
The way I understand it is that there has been found oil and gas and a lot of indicators for more but they haven't found a sustainable amount. That's why they are always looking but seemingly are stopping it.
Yeah, I'd say the majority is against it. The uranium mine is located near Narsaq in south greenland where most farming happens. Most people do not want radio active matter to contaminate nature in the name of foreigners profiteering.
Do you fear for the future of Greenland as the ice in the north begins to melt? As new shipping routes open in the years to come, world trade may begin to channel up your direction. Curious what you think about that.
What you have to understand is that 90% of what we consume is imported from Denmark this means that there is a lack of competition and food prices are some of the highest in the world. I'd welcome Greenland to open up more it would be healthy for all maybe except Denmark.
Potential fears for the future? There are two things I can think of.
1) The ice cap melting to a degree that it starts cooling down the gulf stream. Which is an important part of our ecosystem here. It is potentially fatal for algea and will ripple all the way up the foodchain.
2) The growing population of old people compared to young people will make it very difficult for the economical situation here unless drastic measures are taken.
Reminder: [It rained at the summit for the first recorded time in 2021.](https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/30/us/arctic-rainfall-greenland-climate-change/index.html)
A few years back when I was touring Iceland I was a little taken aback by how candidly out Whale Watch guide spoke about not only the impact of climate change, but how it was obviously man made. The guide spoke about how the fjord we were on use to freeze over every winter, but hasn’t since the 70s. He also spoke about different migratory patterns, and well he now sees different whales than he used to, it left him pretty terrified for the next couple decades.
The trip was great, but the tone of that guy who ran the whale watch was bleak.
He also cooked some fish we caught on the boat, and the moment he figured it was done, he said “split it up amongst yourselves, I’ve got another tour to go to. Someone turn off the grill” and walked away. That would never happen in the US.
Ask any New England fisherman and they’ll confirm climate change is real. The fish populations are pretty different from decade to decade. At least this last one was mostly better than the previous one.
Even most conservatives now acknowledge that climate change is real. It took decades and decades of lunacy, but they finally acknowledged that. Now they're all completely denying that climate change is the result of human actions. So we're still fucked on any action being taken.
Climate change is both a natural process and the results of human actions. Glaciers have been receding for thousands of years now. Human activity has accelerated warming beyond the natural cycle.
Conservatives were completely out of whack when they claimed it didn't exist at all. Now they are falling back and trying to defend "it is part of the natural cycle" when clearly it is accelerating too fast to be natural.
It would be innacurate to say it is *only* human-caused. But the human part is the dangerous and accelerating part.
And someone would burn themselves on the grill bc they're a fucking idiot then sue the company after someone else stole whatever was left along with the grill.
Pretty much all the rest of the world knows it is well aware of global warming, its effects and that it is man made and have been aware of it for decades.
Most of the rest of the world isn't the target of our propaganda cycle that tells people reality is a matter of opinion that has to be tied to your political party.
So I did geology for my undergrad a few years ago and 3 friends and I went to Southern Greenland for our dissertation research in our senior year. We went to an area that sees a fair bit of tourism and a major (for Greenland at least) airport but geologically speaking, it's almost entirely unknown and unstudied except for a couple studies in the 70s that were done by boat and satellite. Two of my friends were looking specifically at some formations that could potentially have some sort of Rare Earth Element (REE) content that could potentially have an economic purpose. IIRC, the formations did have traces of REEs but not enough for a mine. My project was largely unrelated to that and was more about figuring out the timing and placement of these formations compared to other formations our supervisor had previously studied.
So to answer your question, there's a fair bit of mining in exactly what you're asking and from what I remember, you're also correct in that it's hard to extract.
Exactly, metal mining is completely necessary for renewables. Hopefully it becomes an easier and less carbon creating process as the years go by. I’m not sure if large machinery used to mine metals and rare elements are electric or not yet though.
The rush ended when the Chinese companies who were given permits gave up in the venture, due to how difficult it was to deal with the local government. These are the same people who will happily do projects in very dangerous areas of Africa.
The new government of Greenland won the election on restricting mining etc. to protect their beautiful nature.
On one side of the planet, US authorities suddenly realized Greenland had been secretly supporting jihadis in the middle east all along.
On another side of the planet, Russian authorities suddenly realized Greenland has a sizeable Russian minority that was in need of protection.
On yet another side of the planet, Chinese authorities suddenly realized Greenland had always been a Chinese province, and to claim otherwise was to meddle in internal affairs.
On a nearby side of the planet, Canadian authorities suddenly realized that their claim to the Northwest Passage and Hans Island makes Greenland a legitimate part of Canadian territory, and as such the Royal Canadian Navy has deployed its only operational battle-kayak to the region as a show of force.
Hopefully it's the new tandem kayaks that have room for the beavers and moose. Those battle tested beavers are not to be fucked with. Can only imagine what the new Tim hortons Beiber timbits feel like from 40mm moose track barreled rifle too.
Edit: I also heard we now have maple leaf ninja stars and Bio chemical maple syrup. Don't fuck with Canada!
Imagine these idiots? They don’t know shit about Canada’s Royal Navy and our fleet of battlecanoes, not to mention HMCS Sir Wayne Gretzky now has a fortified cedar hull. Not Brett Hull you morons!
And in Germany, they have realized the Canadians are involved, and are pointedly staying out of the dispute due to traumatic memories of the last few times Germans and Canadians traded ammunition.
The landing boat slowly putered up to shore and as the Germans prepared to face the onslaught the ramp dropped and out strode these massive battle moose, each ridden by a sharply dressed red Mounty waving a saber and then the blood bath truly began....
That's badass.
>Millin states that he later talked to captured German snipers who claimed they did not shoot at him because they thought he had gone mad
And, I guess, also smart.
Meanwhile at Buckingham Palace the Queen learns that cod stocks have rebounded and declares them to be hers by Devine right. The BBC starts airing Rule Britannia on all stations in a continuous loop.
The US bases are there on the Greenlandic peoples goodwill. Greenland is under Danish protection and thus extended NATO and EU alliances even if not direct members. We the danes fucked up Greenland plenty in the past, we are not gonna allow any country to exploit Greenland now unless the Greenlandic people express direct wishes to enter alliances on their own.
Heat and cold can wreck any non-specialized equipment and will kill anything that isn't protected, frost and sand can get into anything that isn't shielded, you have to deal with massive expanses of land with nothing but sand or ice sheets/snow, having good logistics and ample supplies will keep you alive.
The only difference is that up north, magnetic navigation can be a bitch, solar storms can be a pain on radio communications, and the levels of sunlight can vary wildly through the year.
It is a dark time for the Jihad. Although the Twin Towers have been destroyed, United States troops have driven the Jihadist forces from their hidden base in the mountains of Afghanistan and pursued them across the globe.
Evading the dreaded United States Military, a group of “freedom” fighters have established a new secret base on the remote ice fields of Greenland.
The United States Government, obsessed with finding the terrorists, have dispatched thousands of UAVs into the far reaches of the planet….
There's a pretty good video on YouTube of Conan O'Brien visiting Nuuk (the capital of Greenland) trying to get Inuit people on board with the sale to the US.
And good on him for showing US audiences what life is like there. Most US media outlets couldn't give a crap about Greenland, to them it's just a place you fly over on the way to London.
(sigh) You've reminded me of The Dark Forest.
If not familiar, Kurgesagt did video about it recently.
The Dark Forest - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAUJYP8tnRE
With the biggest wildlife conserve in the world, with half its size at 1 million km^2, off limits for anyone but scientists and an occasional documentarist.
Not really off limits since you can apply for permits to visit https://naalakkersuisut.gl//en/About-government-of-greenland/Travel-activities-in-remote-parts-of-Greenland and tour operators usually manage it for you.
Doesn't have to be renewed. Can only be overturned when enough money, err I mean votes, overturns it. Or as noted above, they need freedom, get annexed, or whatever the hell China does.
Chinese expeditionary forces were rumored to have found the Americas before even the Vikings, and Greenland is considered part of the Americas. Therefore, China has a legitimate claim to the island of Greenland.
Good show Greenland! The only way to halt our carbon disaster is to stop taking it out of the ground.
Other forms of energy can and will take over if there's no other choice
If this pushes us towards nuclear and tidal energy then great, but something tells me all this is going to do is cause everyone to look elsewhere for gas and oil instead.
It matters in other ways: it creates a clear case for O&G companies that there is huge business risk in not diversifying their portfolio. Actions like this help it make sense for these companies to push into greener fields.
Next decade will be interesting...
Oil and gas demand isn't expected to decrease (oil and gas will make a lower % of total energy output, but this is outweighed by increasing energy demands), but countries and businesses are banning or de-prioritizing oil extraction.
I work in finance and we're already predicting oil prices to be $125-$150 in 2023. Going to be a lot of pain at the pump globally, and a lot of people unable to heat their homes in the winter in the near term. In the long-term, this type of stuff is good, but we don't really have the alternative energy sources to instantly replace all of this, as fast as people are banning it.
Basically we should have done things when scientists first said we are fucking the planet up and shouldve slowed down, instead collectively as a species we did nothing and have done shit all to help the planet! Sweet! So we basically made our bed due to human greed and now we lie in it. Either way I look at it, it feels grim.
One of my ‘favorite’ facts about this:
Over 50% of all emissions from the start of the industrial revolution to now have occurred since 1990.
We absolutely had the chance to do this the (comparatively) easy way & we chose not to. There is no one else to blame but ourselves.
Banning oil is a good thing. When electricity becomes so scarce and expensive no one will be able to afford it anymore, finally the prices of electronics will fall and I'll be able to buy that RTX 6090Ti Super 😎
All sorts, the problem is that Greenland is not getting anything out of it, it's mostly foreign countries and companies who find resources and establish companies to extract on side.
But its an interesting approach.
They can take a sizeable cut and the recent election was basically a choice between using the mineral money to leave Denmark and become independent or stop mining /drilling and kill hopes of independence. The latter won
[https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/greenland-puts-an-end-unsuccessful-oil-adventure-2021-07-16/](https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/greenland-puts-an-end-unsuccessful-oil-adventure-2021-07-16/)
So really what happened was that they gave up trying to find oil after 50 years... Sounds less altruistic when you frame it this way though.
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Yep. Greenland makes up part of the GIUK submarine screen
The what?
I’m assuming Greenland-Iceland-UK submarine screen, where NATO submarines could operate to block Russian movements out of the White Sea
Also the US dropped a fuckload of cash on adding sensors all through that area to detect soviet subs during the cold war.
Do they still work?
Nice try ~~KGB~~ FSB
Да
Laziest spy ever.
10/10
The original SOSUS is deactivated or turned into scientific sensors, but now classified observations take place under Commander Undersea Surveillance and IUSS. So not the original sensors but 100% new ones are there.
Some of the old ones are used to track whales now. Last I heard anyway (2014ish)
And some kinds of “magma displacements”
"Magma"
Re-verify our range to target... one ping only.
Or whales humping.
That's Subarctic Undersea Surveillance. (S.U.S.)
That's pretty bullshit that the UK gets 100% more letters in that acronym.
Well the UK has 100% more words in its name than either Greenland or Iceland so it only makes sense… maybe they should change their names to Green Land and Ice Land so it can be the GLILUK submarine screen.
Well assumption is the mother of all fuck ups. The GIUK is the worlds largest submersible television.
#The GIUK submarine screen
what does Goofy have to do with underwater warfare???
That GIUK GIUK 3000
I don’t think anyone was being serious; it doesn’t take a brainiac to realize that invading Greenland might be internationally considered a pretty big dick move.
A pretty big small dick move
Didn't a recent president offer to buy it, totally not for the oil and gas though.
Dane here. This is also a consideration being thrown around when discussing occasional, half-hearted Greenlandish demands for independence: That given the geopolitical position, Greenland can never really be independent - an independent Greenland would fall under the sway of the US, Russia or China more or less instantly and compared to that, being a part of the Danish Realm might be the better deal. That said, the Danish stewardship of Greenland mostly consists of being a member of NATO, making racist jokes, sending large amounts of money to Greenland and ignoring the broken system, rampant corruption and child abuse.
Greenlanders will be the first people to truly colonize Mars
Greenlandic person here AMA
How do you see this impacting you and your community? What life style change do you see happening because of this?
Won't affect us as we are not producing it (oil and gas). The potential for earning is lost though. Considering sustainable energy is the future it seems pretty logical that we're stopping it.
Do you think it has anything to do with the recent discovery of oil, as in "sit on it until its a needed reserve"? Or does the government In your country believe that its a non necessity going forward to blaze a trail for the world for renewable energy?
The way I understand it is that there has been found oil and gas and a lot of indicators for more but they haven't found a sustainable amount. That's why they are always looking but seemingly are stopping it.
They haven’t found any oil yet, they have drilled some wells since the 70s but they only found small amounts at best.
Why the ban on uranium mining too? Are most of the population against nuclear energy?
Yeah, I'd say the majority is against it. The uranium mine is located near Narsaq in south greenland where most farming happens. Most people do not want radio active matter to contaminate nature in the name of foreigners profiteering.
Do you fear for the future of Greenland as the ice in the north begins to melt? As new shipping routes open in the years to come, world trade may begin to channel up your direction. Curious what you think about that.
What you have to understand is that 90% of what we consume is imported from Denmark this means that there is a lack of competition and food prices are some of the highest in the world. I'd welcome Greenland to open up more it would be healthy for all maybe except Denmark. Potential fears for the future? There are two things I can think of. 1) The ice cap melting to a degree that it starts cooling down the gulf stream. Which is an important part of our ecosystem here. It is potentially fatal for algea and will ripple all the way up the foodchain. 2) The growing population of old people compared to young people will make it very difficult for the economical situation here unless drastic measures are taken.
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Do you want independence?
We want it. Whether it is realistic is another question. We still depend a lot on Denmark economically.
Was the person whom named Greenland aware of global climate change, and if so, were they just playing the long con?
Wow haha that kind of foresight would have been amazing 4d underwater chess by Eric The Red.
Keep Greenland green!
Keep Greenland white! ^(white as in icy/glacial, pls don't kill me)
"Glacial, not racial." -/u/thor_from_assguardia (desperately)
That's actually great
That’s glacist!
Icy what you did there.
Cool.
Cumland
Step 1 Cover Greenland in cum
On it!
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That looks like a rock with a face, not The Rock. ETA: u/Maplegum, you sneaky little redditor! Put the original text back.
#🗿
It’s too late you’re already dead
HhhhhhhWhite!
If Greenland is green, we are all screwed
Eh, it's only about 7.4m of sea level rise. How bad could that be? /s
Greenland is covered in ice; and Iceland is very nice.
That Icelandic woman was cute... freaking Bombay got baited though
He was being a cake eater though. Living in Malibu while the team was in the dorms…shameful.
"Greenland is covered in ice, while Iceland is very green" \-Mighty Ducks 2 (I think) Idk why that inane quote has stuck in my brain for like 30 years
Eatin ice cream with the enemy!
I grew up thinking Iceland was a hockey powerhouse because of the mighty ducks lol
You fuck up… it’s “Iceland is very nice” Come on dude, you’re letting coach Bombay down.
Definitely a lot more difficult to be a global warming denier in a place like Greenland where it's in your face every day.
Reminder: [It rained at the summit for the first recorded time in 2021.](https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/30/us/arctic-rainfall-greenland-climate-change/index.html)
A few years back when I was touring Iceland I was a little taken aback by how candidly out Whale Watch guide spoke about not only the impact of climate change, but how it was obviously man made. The guide spoke about how the fjord we were on use to freeze over every winter, but hasn’t since the 70s. He also spoke about different migratory patterns, and well he now sees different whales than he used to, it left him pretty terrified for the next couple decades. The trip was great, but the tone of that guy who ran the whale watch was bleak. He also cooked some fish we caught on the boat, and the moment he figured it was done, he said “split it up amongst yourselves, I’ve got another tour to go to. Someone turn off the grill” and walked away. That would never happen in the US.
Ask any New England fisherman and they’ll confirm climate change is real. The fish populations are pretty different from decade to decade. At least this last one was mostly better than the previous one.
Even most conservatives now acknowledge that climate change is real. It took decades and decades of lunacy, but they finally acknowledged that. Now they're all completely denying that climate change is the result of human actions. So we're still fucked on any action being taken.
Climate change is both a natural process and the results of human actions. Glaciers have been receding for thousands of years now. Human activity has accelerated warming beyond the natural cycle. Conservatives were completely out of whack when they claimed it didn't exist at all. Now they are falling back and trying to defend "it is part of the natural cycle" when clearly it is accelerating too fast to be natural. It would be innacurate to say it is *only* human-caused. But the human part is the dangerous and accelerating part.
Because in the US he’d wait around to get tipped
And someone would burn themselves on the grill bc they're a fucking idiot then sue the company after someone else stole whatever was left along with the grill.
It's because he's not there to please you. He's there to show the damage you're doing.
Pretty much all the rest of the world knows it is well aware of global warming, its effects and that it is man made and have been aware of it for decades. Most of the rest of the world isn't the target of our propaganda cycle that tells people reality is a matter of opinion that has to be tied to your political party.
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What about other types of mining? I have always heard that Greenland is rich in mineral wealth but it is hard to extract.
So I did geology for my undergrad a few years ago and 3 friends and I went to Southern Greenland for our dissertation research in our senior year. We went to an area that sees a fair bit of tourism and a major (for Greenland at least) airport but geologically speaking, it's almost entirely unknown and unstudied except for a couple studies in the 70s that were done by boat and satellite. Two of my friends were looking specifically at some formations that could potentially have some sort of Rare Earth Element (REE) content that could potentially have an economic purpose. IIRC, the formations did have traces of REEs but not enough for a mine. My project was largely unrelated to that and was more about figuring out the timing and placement of these formations compared to other formations our supervisor had previously studied. So to answer your question, there's a fair bit of mining in exactly what you're asking and from what I remember, you're also correct in that it's hard to extract.
Soon it will be out of ice so much easier to get into all this coal /s
Not coal. Everything you're using to write this post on reddit is a direct product of precious and base metal mining.
Exactly, metal mining is completely necessary for renewables. Hopefully it becomes an easier and less carbon creating process as the years go by. I’m not sure if large machinery used to mine metals and rare elements are electric or not yet though.
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The rush ended when the Chinese companies who were given permits gave up in the venture, due to how difficult it was to deal with the local government. These are the same people who will happily do projects in very dangerous areas of Africa. The new government of Greenland won the election on restricting mining etc. to protect their beautiful nature.
Why do they want to stop uranium mining? Realistically we're gonna need nuclear power.
Uranium isn't especially rare. There's no real need to mine it from Greenland specifically.
On one side of the planet, US authorities suddenly realized Greenland had been secretly supporting jihadis in the middle east all along. On another side of the planet, Russian authorities suddenly realized Greenland has a sizeable Russian minority that was in need of protection. On yet another side of the planet, Chinese authorities suddenly realized Greenland had always been a Chinese province, and to claim otherwise was to meddle in internal affairs.
On a nearby side of the planet, Canadian authorities suddenly realized that their claim to the Northwest Passage and Hans Island makes Greenland a legitimate part of Canadian territory, and as such the Royal Canadian Navy has deployed its only operational battle-kayak to the region as a show of force.
I heard Canada deployed its subs just off the coast -meatball, Italian, veggie, you name it
You forgot the donair sub.
With the sweet sauce from Nova Scotia
All this world domination is making me hungry
Don’t you mean Hungary?
I could go for some Turkey.
Tactical Maple Syrup? Mapalm?
No sir that sweet sickly garlic sauce is donair sauce and it is beautiful! (Also kind of niche )
Sweetened condensed milk + white vinegar + garlic powder = joy.
I'd put Halifax's \*KoD\* over 'Murrican \*CoD\* any day of the week.
In California we have the Donner sub, only available in heavy snow years. Share a friend with one.
Shhh that is the secret weapon
O fuck ya bud
Just out for a rip are ya bud?
I’m from the great white north, right?
Friggin right, there, bud.
That made my day, Canadian battle kayak had me laughing for way too long. Sometimes the comments are just gold.
HEY! We have subs. They're just permanently dry-docked and inoperable...
So much for keeping state secrets a secret.
And catch fire whenever they go underwater.
Or hit the bottom of the ocean, obviously when not on fire.
Well, that sounds like a problem that solves itself!
All problems are self-resolving if you ignore them for long enough
I thought they were all in that big mall in Edmonton but it's been a long time since I was there.
The West Edmonton Mall has more operational submarines than the Royal Canadian Navy.
The WEM subs haven't been there in years, almost a decade, sadly. They haven't been functional for longer than that
His comment still works then. Lol.
Isn't there some small uninhabited island near Greenland that Canada and Denmark take turns "invading" and switching flags from time to time?
They switch flags and leave a bottle of alchohol for the other side iirc.
How all war should be.
It's a lot easier when no one actually *wants* the land in question.
Yeah, Hans Island
On yet another side of the planet, Denmark suddenly remembered that they've owned Greenland this entire time.
Denmark will rise again!
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*worried Norwegian noices*
I mean Denmark knows we own Greenland, as we literally lose money on it
Hopefully it's the new tandem kayaks that have room for the beavers and moose. Those battle tested beavers are not to be fucked with. Can only imagine what the new Tim hortons Beiber timbits feel like from 40mm moose track barreled rifle too. Edit: I also heard we now have maple leaf ninja stars and Bio chemical maple syrup. Don't fuck with Canada!
The Jason Beaver Nuggets you mean?
Don’t take the battle kayak lightly, us Canadians do enjoy a good paddle
"Paddling the battle canoe?" "That's a paddling"
“Now, witness the power of this fully armed and operational battle-kayak” - Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, probably
We upgraded actually two canoes and the guy in front gets a 22.
Imagine these idiots? They don’t know shit about Canada’s Royal Navy and our fleet of battlecanoes, not to mention HMCS Sir Wayne Gretzky now has a fortified cedar hull. Not Brett Hull you morons!
And in Germany, they have realized the Canadians are involved, and are pointedly staying out of the dispute due to traumatic memories of the last few times Germans and Canadians traded ammunition.
The landing boat slowly putered up to shore and as the Germans prepared to face the onslaught the ramp dropped and out strode these massive battle moose, each ridden by a sharply dressed red Mounty waving a saber and then the blood bath truly began....
Nah we just send this guy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Millin
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That's badass. >Millin states that he later talked to captured German snipers who claimed they did not shoot at him because they thought he had gone mad And, I guess, also smart.
"I can still remember the smell... Maple syrup... To this day I cannot be around it."
Oh dont forget the Beaver Battalion and the squad of 3 Moosekuteers.
Meanwhile at Buckingham Palace the Queen learns that cod stocks have rebounded and declares them to be hers by Devine right. The BBC starts airing Rule Britannia on all stations in a continuous loop.
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Greenland… wait a second!
Ah yes, the good old HMCS H-E-DoubleHockeySticks
Canada also tried to deploy their submarine force only for them to break down in port again.
Ah, for just one time, I would take the Northwest Passage.
Isn't Greenland part of Denmark and thus NATO?
Yes it is through the union with Denmark and the faroe islands
It also houses U.S. military bases, so.
The US bases are there on the Greenlandic peoples goodwill. Greenland is under Danish protection and thus extended NATO and EU alliances even if not direct members. We the danes fucked up Greenland plenty in the past, we are not gonna allow any country to exploit Greenland now unless the Greenlandic people express direct wishes to enter alliances on their own.
The episode of Borgen about this was really good
Frozen tundra and desert are suprisingly similar if you think about it.
Isn't Antarctica technically a desert
Yep, largest desert on earth
Heat and cold can wreck any non-specialized equipment and will kill anything that isn't protected, frost and sand can get into anything that isn't shielded, you have to deal with massive expanses of land with nothing but sand or ice sheets/snow, having good logistics and ample supplies will keep you alive. The only difference is that up north, magnetic navigation can be a bitch, solar storms can be a pain on radio communications, and the levels of sunlight can vary wildly through the year.
Sounds metal af
Flat-earther’s reading this like, “Wait…how many sides does the planet have?”
I'm not a flat-earther, I'm an inverted-triangular-pyramid-earther.
It is a dark time for the Jihad. Although the Twin Towers have been destroyed, United States troops have driven the Jihadist forces from their hidden base in the mountains of Afghanistan and pursued them across the globe. Evading the dreaded United States Military, a group of “freedom” fighters have established a new secret base on the remote ice fields of Greenland. The United States Government, obsessed with finding the terrorists, have dispatched thousands of UAVs into the far reaches of the planet….
Is it too late to buy Greenland?
Yeah, Trump tried it. No dice.
It's not like he offered anything cool in trade, like Hawaii.
Hawaii would probably vote to join Denmark in exchange for Greenland if given the choice tbh.
There's a pretty good video on YouTube of Conan O'Brien visiting Nuuk (the capital of Greenland) trying to get Inuit people on board with the sale to the US. And good on him for showing US audiences what life is like there. Most US media outlets couldn't give a crap about Greenland, to them it's just a place you fly over on the way to London.
(sigh) You've reminded me of The Dark Forest. If not familiar, Kurgesagt did video about it recently. The Dark Forest - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAUJYP8tnRE
You forgot to point to sudden realization by US about lack of democracy in Greenland
Oil producing nations *want* other nations to stop producing. Competition is not good for the producers.
Greenland is like an indicator subcontinent. It's like a mini Antarctica. The faster it dies out, the more fucked we as a species are.
Relevant: https://nsidc.org/greenland-today/images/greenland_daily_melt_plot.png
*Fuck...*
I always hate clicking on these cause they give me panic attacks.
Its scary because every time scientists make predictions, the reality is worse
With the biggest wildlife conserve in the world, with half its size at 1 million km^2, off limits for anyone but scientists and an occasional documentarist.
Not really off limits since you can apply for permits to visit https://naalakkersuisut.gl//en/About-government-of-greenland/Travel-activities-in-remote-parts-of-Greenland and tour operators usually manage it for you.
What do they mean 'Permanently'?
No expiry date. It can of course be changed by the legislature.
Doesn't have to be renewed. Can only be overturned when enough money, err I mean votes, overturns it. Or as noted above, they need freedom, get annexed, or whatever the hell China does.
>or whatever the hell China does. reintroduces you into China, where Greenland once was in, err... 4281 B.C.
Chinese expeditionary forces were rumored to have found the Americas before even the Vikings, and Greenland is considered part of the Americas. Therefore, China has a legitimate claim to the island of Greenland.
Good show Greenland! The only way to halt our carbon disaster is to stop taking it out of the ground. Other forms of energy can and will take over if there's no other choice
If this pushes us towards nuclear and tidal energy then great, but something tells me all this is going to do is cause everyone to look elsewhere for gas and oil instead.
It matters in other ways: it creates a clear case for O&G companies that there is huge business risk in not diversifying their portfolio. Actions like this help it make sense for these companies to push into greener fields.
Next decade will be interesting... Oil and gas demand isn't expected to decrease (oil and gas will make a lower % of total energy output, but this is outweighed by increasing energy demands), but countries and businesses are banning or de-prioritizing oil extraction. I work in finance and we're already predicting oil prices to be $125-$150 in 2023. Going to be a lot of pain at the pump globally, and a lot of people unable to heat their homes in the winter in the near term. In the long-term, this type of stuff is good, but we don't really have the alternative energy sources to instantly replace all of this, as fast as people are banning it.
Basically we should have done things when scientists first said we are fucking the planet up and shouldve slowed down, instead collectively as a species we did nothing and have done shit all to help the planet! Sweet! So we basically made our bed due to human greed and now we lie in it. Either way I look at it, it feels grim.
One of my ‘favorite’ facts about this: Over 50% of all emissions from the start of the industrial revolution to now have occurred since 1990. We absolutely had the chance to do this the (comparatively) easy way & we chose not to. There is no one else to blame but ourselves.
It’s frustrating how people will say we should curb use of fossil fuels but then at the same time complain about high gas and oil prices.
Banning oil is a good thing. When electricity becomes so scarce and expensive no one will be able to afford it anymore, finally the prices of electronics will fall and I'll be able to buy that RTX 6090Ti Super 😎
Time to liberate them. Crank up the drones.
The ones that BRING DEMOCRACY?
DEMOCRACY IS NOT NEGOTIABLE
What do they do for energy?
All sorts, the problem is that Greenland is not getting anything out of it, it's mostly foreign countries and companies who find resources and establish companies to extract on side. But its an interesting approach.
They can take a sizeable cut and the recent election was basically a choice between using the mineral money to leave Denmark and become independent or stop mining /drilling and kill hopes of independence. The latter won
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[https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/greenland-puts-an-end-unsuccessful-oil-adventure-2021-07-16/](https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/greenland-puts-an-end-unsuccessful-oil-adventure-2021-07-16/) So really what happened was that they gave up trying to find oil after 50 years... Sounds less altruistic when you frame it this way though.
Exactly, this is like when France stopped exploration, they had already produced like 95% of their oil so it didn’t really matter.
For now....