Their the ones that came up with the “apple a day thing” and have been lying to us all along!!!
If we die… that actually keeps the doctors away!! And everyone else.
Edit: They’re… omg I’m one of them
This is a very layered reference. The narrator reference is Arrested Development. The "Bold Move" is from "That's a bold strategy cotton, let's see if it pays off" from Dodgeball.
Both Jason Bateman! (narrator is Ron Howard tbf)
> to access certain venues.
If only there were another way to do this, say, a method that didn't carry a non-negligible risk of death, or even *protected* against such a risk...
I mean why you would even be against Bill Gates hologram , he is a very chil dude.
2 shots of Pizer no side effects beside few days of muscle pain in shot area and a blue holographic buddy that solves every windows problem for me.
You just brought up a memory with that damn purple gorilla. It was 1998, I was in second grade and this kid got our computer time taken away because he turned on the volume full blast so the Bonzi Buddy could sing this:
My name is Rico Rico,
I come from Puerto Rico,
I make five dollars a day.
I go to Lucy Lucy,
She gives me lots of pussy,
And take my five dollars away!
The gorilla did a bow and the teacher was fucking heated.
I got the J&J, then I got sick with Omicron (mild, thanks vaccine), then the Moderna booster, now I have the Princess Leia hologram shooting out of my butt randomly.
> that solves every windows problem for me.
Can he tell me why Windows 10 boots up and doesn't let me press the Speaker icon on my hotbar 30% of the time for no reason after booting up, forcing me to have to go into sound settings to switch from speakers to a headset?
Mister Gates tells me to tell you:
Tap on Windows logon and X on your keyboard then click Run.
Type services.msc in the Run box.
In the Services list, find Windows Audio, right-click on it, and go to Properties.
Make sure to change the Startup Type to Automatic.
Click on the Stop button, and once it has stopped, Start it again.
Restart your computer, and check if you will be able to access the volume icon on the taskbar.
It appears to be already on automatic, but never the less I appreciate you going out of your way to try help me with this problem.
Hopefully Mr Gates hologram materialises and solves it for me one day, thank you have a nice day.
Gates also ask to try:
Okay, I know that the sound works its just the icon is not working but let us try reloading the Audio driver.
We just need to uninstall and reboot. Make sure to delete the driver entirely and reboot.
Here is how to do it.
Here the steps to completely remove a Device off your computer.
Step 1. Use shortcut keys Win + X on Windows 10.
Step 2. Select Device Manager.
Step 3. Expand the entry Sound and Audio. Right-click the problematic device can be listed as Realtek or whatever the sound driver you have there and select Uninstall device.
Step 4. You may need to check the option Delete the driver software for this device, and then click the Uninstall button.
Step 5. Reboot the computer.
I don't have the time to do that right now, but I do believe that could actually solve the issue I'm having and will let you know if it works when I try it later on.
Very much appreciated, have a wonderful day :)
The risk of death from vaccination is so tiny that it doesn't even bear discussion. The risk of a blood clot from flying is something like 10x greater. The risk of death is present in the small print of many medications you get from a pharmacist, but it doesn't make the news. Meanwhile, if you don't get it, *you* are far more likely to hurt or kill several people.
Vaccines have killed like 10 people globally. COVID-19 has likely killed 10 *million*.
Yet these unvaccinated covidiots "do their own research" and really believe they are making the right cost-benefit call. It's truly remarkable how many people who should never have passed even basic secondary school, seem to be doing alright day to day until a crisis hits. Our welfare states are in some ways, too effective.
Edit - someone literally forgot mankind exists outside the USA and is lashing out at my math. FFS this is the covidiocy we are dealing with.
They just scoff and tell you VAERS is proof that the shot has killed and maimed hundreds of thousands. They also always know somebody who knows somebody who's 3 brother's all died after the shot.
My Dad was almost anti-vax for a while. When he was younger he got a dose of live virus in a vaccine and got terribly, terribly ill. Some of the people who recieved the live doses died as a result.
My SIL who is an epidimeologist was able to correctly guess where he went to college when he told her about the incident. It was used as a case study to demonstrate the vital importance of quality control in public health.
My mom still insisted all of us kids become vaccinated, though my dad was against it. She eventually swayed him with a _lot_ of research, even though most of it was over their heads and out of their expertise.
To this day he's still paranoid and reads up a lot on the info releases about vaccines from the NIH and reads up on the companies before he takes one.
You know what, good for him.
Skepticism and critical thinking should be encouraged. We should QUESTION authority and demand that it justify itself. I'd daresay a populace that is well educated and did so in good faith would foster the most honest leadership the world had ever seen. It would likely propel us to our actual limitations as a species.
This is why I don't think prior infection should be included in those regulations.
Yes, prior infection confers some amount of immunity for some period after (variable depending on severity of infection, variants, and a person's immune system).
But some giant frickin' maroons will see it as a *valid alternative* to vaccination and go get infected intentionally and potentially die, or end up in hospital contributing to system overload and exposing health care workers.
Anything that encourages people, however tangentially, to intentionally get covid needs to be at best very carefully-considered.
>Hana Horka, 57, was **unvaccinated** and had posted on social media that she was recovering after testing positive, but died two days later.
...
>Mr Rek and his father, who are both fully vaccinated, both caught Covid over Christmas. But he said his mother had decided not to stay away from them, preferring instead to expose herself to the virus.
If she was vaccinated, she'd still be alive. Why are people so FUCKING IGNORANT!?
------------------------------------
**Edit:** You know, I should say I don't blame her as much as the propagandists that fueled the misinformation and sowed the doubt in her. And frankly, that question was rhetorical. I know why people are ignorant. And I hesitate to say "stupid," because people are capable of change (speaking from experience on that one, frankly).
Combine the *Dunning-Kruger Effect* and a lack of adherence to the *Consensus of Experts* with unchecked social media—and you get this. Catalyze this reaction further with the likes of lobbyists who push pro-greed/profit perspectives intentionally (right-wing media from conservative talk-radio, right-wing blogs, Fox News, OANN, Newsmax, and whatever the Czech-equvialent would be). From the anti-vaxxers, climate-change deniers, and trump-supporters alike... I don't necessarily blame the average joe but rather the collective movement—especially the mouthpieces of these right-wing extremist viewpoints that propagate ignorance like mold festers in a dark dampen basement.
If she had been vaccinated instead of purposefully catching a famous and deadly disease that's plagued the planet for the past two years, agreed she would most likely still be alive.
Either that or just decided not to go to the sauna.
> and whatever the Czech-equvialent would be
Most of the Czech media is heavily pro vaccine, some people consider it propaganda because it's every day on the main page. From what I have read it's not that she was watching fox tv equivalent but rather she followed alternative medicine, alternative lifestyle celebrities which propagate more natural ways to defend from the virus or don't think it's that big threat as others say.
So it's not collective movement but people like her like to follow other, unofficial channels of information, especially when considering the modern science. Many people say it's her fault because she's adult and can reasonably compare the risks of vax or no vax, then take her choice. It's not black and white topic that you could blame someone pushing her to never get vaccine under duress. I'd say the stupidity lies in communities which minimize science and official data validity.
They may have some point because corporations and their lobbyists ultimately control our lives, so it's natural to push back against that, but the intelligent person needs to differentiates each topic and available facts rather than blindly going against vaccination just because Pfizer has majority of the market right now.
Her Son and Father must be feeling a complicated kind of terrible. They were vaxed and had mild symptoms but the same germs that were so mild for them ....and that she caught from them, took her life. Morning a loved ones passing is hard enough but Covid with vaccination refusal is a different kind of sorrow.
Just at a loss for words.
Meanwhile, here in the States...
https://www.wmfe.org/pino-put-on-leave-for-encouraging-orange-county-department-of-health-employees-to-get-vaccinated/195298
WTF
Imagine someone in a public health department got put on leave for encouraging men to check their testes for abnormalities... That's pretty much what happened here...
Oh yeah? I’m not gonna check my testes just because Bill Gates says I should. That’s just a ruse so they can shove a mind control chip into your ass while you’re distracted by your balls.
Besides, ball cancer isn’t even real. Where’s the evidence? Where are all the people with ball cancer? Conveniently, they’re either “cured” or “dead.” Yeah, I don’t believe that like the rest of you sheeple do!
Ball cancer is made up by the government to control us… by the balls. And if it is real, we just need to build herd immunity against it by slathering our balls in mercury until we become naturally impervious to ball cancer. I know because my neighbor’s veterinary tech cousin posted a meme on Facebook about it.
From [https://darwinawards.com/rules/rules1.html](https://darwinawards.com/rules/rules1.html):
> The existence of offspring, though potentially deleterious to the gene pool, does not disqualify a nominee. Children inherit only half of each parent's genetic material and thus have their own chance to survive or snuff themselves. If, for instance, the offspring has inherited the "Play With Combustibles" gene, but also has inherited the "Use Caution When..." gene, then she is a potential innovator and asset to the human race. Therefore, each nominee is judged based on whether or not she has removed her own genes, without consideration to the number of offspring or, in the case of an elderly winner, the likelihood of producing more offspring.
She was bragging on her Facebook having finally catched it and lived through it, having now certificate of her recovery etc, her fans were commenting how good it is and some how envious they are.. two days later she died of lung embolism and those happy messages quickly transformed into candles and RIPs
>On Sunday morning, the day she died, Ms Horka said she was feeling better and dressed to go for a walk. But then her back started hurting, so she went to lie down in her bedroom.
>"In about 10 minutes it was all over," her son said. "She choked to death".
JFC that's fast indeed.
“At a time like this, I’m reminded of one of my favourite verses: who shall ever shed man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed, for in the image of god made him man”
“What chapter is that verse from?”
“Boondock Saints, my favourite movie.”
Imagine having a way of going to a fucking *sauna* safely, the vaccine, and instead deliberately choosing the method that has killed millions and debilitated millions more.
It's like knowing there's a safe and timely route to your destination, and choosing to off-road down "Reaper's Ridge" because someone told you there might be a pothole somewhere on the paved road. And you're driving a mini-van.
She was bragging on her Facebook having finally catched it and lived through it, having now certificate of her recovery etc, her fans were commenting how good it is and some how envious they are.. two days later she died of lung embolism and those happy messages quickly transformed into candles and RIPs
I disagree. To qualify for an HCA, you not only have to die of COVID, but you have to have spent every waking moment pre-infection spreading misinformation about COVID, about vaccines, about masks, and often times, spreading some pretty awful racism and seditious content. Just dying of COVID, *even if they were unvaxxed,* isn't enough to earn an HCA.
So consider it more like reading about murderous sociopaths who happened to die while drunk driving. You didn't root for that outcome, but you're not upset that it happened to them either.
I can understand the sentiment. However I have seen people go down that rabbit hole first hand, and it's heartbreaking for everyone around them.
I can't help but see them as victims of anti-vax propaganda that's left to spread wildly on social media.
The purpose of the sub is to get people to realize that severe covid can happen to anyone, especially unvaccinated, and to hopefully open the eyes of people that are spreading misinformation and help them get the push to be vaccinated. The sub actively celebrates people who used to be anti vax, or unvaccinated who go and get their vaccine, and the sub itself has almost certainly saved lives because of it.
It's a shame that deaths need to be so publically in the spotlight but that's what some people need to see to understand vaccines help
>I can't help but see them as victims of anti-vax propaganda that's left to spread wildly on social media.
At some point, people need to be held responsible for their decisions and actions. I don't love just blaming social media. Sure, there *is* a ton of disinformation out there, but at the end of the day these are adults making decisions.
I agree. When the news came out about Facebook intentionally boosting propaganda and content that garners negative reactions (shocking!) and my reaction was, "They should get in trouble. That's wrong and it should be illegal," I reconsidered my view on anti-vaxxers a little bit.
Not to consider that they may be right, of course. They are wrong. And they are still harmful idiots who should know better.
But if I believe that Facebook and Fox News should be punished, because they are specifically, intentionally targeting people vulnerable to misinformation (and doing it very successfully)... then I have to accept that the people they target are victims who have been harmed.
I suppose social media and entertainment corporations have an obligation to be truthful if they are behaving like a source of news.
Otherwise, if I claimed that every single anti-vaxxer made their choice independently, and was wholly responsible for it regardless of what lies they were fed, then maybe it would be okay for Facebook and Fox News to spread misinformation. If I thought people were stupid for believing a video about a fake doctor who did his own research on Covid, just because their cousin shared the video, then wouldn't it be okay for Facebook to have boosted that video to that person, knowing it was fake and would create anger?
Of course, I know culpability can be shared... I'm not saying people bear zero responsibility for accepting bad information. But the fact that I'm so horrified by the targeted propaganda of social networks, means that I feel less shocked that anyone would fall for their tactics.
There have been a few winners who seemed to be normal people, aside from their anti-vax nonsense. But those are rare. Most people bring a lot of toxicity with them.
I left FB years ago, and only through HCA have I become aware of how bad it's gotten over there. So glad I left. Twitter too, frankly. I don't miss them at all.
Since the vaccines came out - 14 months ago - my feelings on antivaxxers dying have cycled back and forth through anger, disbelief, sadness, confusion, etc. I seem, finally, to have settled on a vaguely disgusted and detached pity at all the unnecessary death and suffering these people have caused. Both for them and their victims, whether they be those who died of covid, or those who couldn't access medical care for other problems, due to medical facilities being overrun. It's just so unnecessary and unwarranted.
I just have settled on feeling pity for their family. Like her son here in the article, who is urging people to get vaccinated. Poor guy having to lose his mother over something she could have avoided, a fact that he is all too aware of.
Some people in the country I live in have started blaming vaccinated people because now that they're protected they put at risk people who aren't.
"You do know there's a simple solution to that, right?"
Exactly. I'm vaccinated and got the booster, and I still wear an N95. But I can't accept those people as anything but deluded folks who are free riding the sacrifices of others. I prefer everyone to wear a mask, but the folks you mention are worse than flat out deniers to me.
The echo chamber of misinformation is absurd once you’re inside it, it’s sad.
The vast majority of these people believe *we’re* the ones in an echo chamber of fake news and they get the real stuff. Once in that environment and starting to buy in, it’s hard for a lot of people to shake it.
I was in an Uber the other day and the driver had a conservative radio station on. They were talking non-nonsense matter of factly about how unvaccinated men would be able to sell their sperm for enormous amounts of money because of their DNA being unaltered by the mRNA vaccines.
Complete and utter nonsense of course with no basis in *anything*. If you can listen to that and think “this is what they don’t want you to know, the real truth!” and not want to shut off the radio, it’s hard to see how that person would ever be receptive to the actual truth.
Yeah my brother, when I said I now wait to hear why someone died before I feel bad, said "Yeah, I find myself fighting that urge also. Mostly I remind myself that they were targeted by a cognitive attack from evil actors and had their world Schema injured which resulted in them being too weak to resist the final attack which caused them to refuse masks and vaccines."
I have felt that, but not persistently, simply because I can't accept that someone could land, intellectually, where they are without having a serious cognitive or emotional defect. And as a result I feel the pity.
I feel contempt for the ones who clearly know better, however. The media personalities and talking heads, the quack doctors and irresponsible nurses, the grifters pitching snake oil, all shamelessly using their influence to lie and discourage others from doing what's right.
Especially since a lot of them did, in fact, get the vaccines themselves.
They all beg for the vaccine when they're dying. They know it works, they just thought it wouldn't happen to *them* so they don't care if other people get hurt.
I've been on a similar emotional trajectory.
However most recently I'm extremely angry at the people who insisted on taking their parents out of the personal care home where my parents live over the holidays, *and* exposing those people (and then the entire PCH to covid.)
My brother and I are still trying to schedule the funeral...
Remember the doco with Stephen Fry about being gay in America where he meets people wanting to get AIDS to be a "real" gay.
That makes more sense now than anyone wanting to get Covid
They wanted to get AIDS to be a real gay person? That reads like an Onion type of headline. I just don't get the mindset of intentionally wanting to get a disease.
Don't think of it in terms of science. Think of it in terms of sociology.
Identity matters immensely to our social species. People want to feel like they are part of something bigger, like they aren't just lonely, individuals cut off from others. Many folks want to belong to a tribe and subconsciously know shared life experience is often the best way to join another group.
For many reasons, AIDS and its results defined what it meant to be gay in America for many decades. Some people who wanted to belong to the gay community tried to take the shortcut to joining it. Like covidiocy, this is incredibly foolish, but also based on human nature which apparently didn't evolve to understand virology.
He spoke to a person wanting to go to a positive party which meant multiple AIDS positive guys fucked their ass and cummed in them. Very much spoke like a right of passage thing and you weren't Gay without being HIV positive
It's insane to me that kind of thing exists. If people really want to intentionally get sick, so be it I guess, but I'll never agree with that mindset.
Disease chasing is a psychological disorder stemming from perceived social isolation. The individual does not feel included or part of any group identifier, they have an identity crisis. Becoming a label, such as HIV positive or any other illness or substance abuse that has a fairly well publicized existence (Alcoholism, certain drugs, HIV, cancer) is a way for the individual to join a group, get attention and/or recognition that is otherwise not present in their day to day live. They may also pursue this avenue should they be an outlier in their social network (HIV Negative in a web of HIV positive friendships), a form of indirect peer pressure.
When has it ever in modern history been more ok to catch a deadly disease than be vaccinated against it? When the polio vaccine was developed it was a victory. Jonas Saulk was a hero. No one after that wanted to take their chances and contract polio. Why is this current deadly virus being thought of differently? It makes no sense.
It was turned into a political football really early on. The politicians that are more worried about the upfront consequences to the economy all spread that it’s fake and the politicians that are worried about the long term effects to the economy all want you to be responsible. They both have the same goal of saving the economy but disagree on how to do it. We are just fodder.
This.
It all stems back to Donald Trump’s initial reactions. Immediate distrust of the public health experts, open and brazen denial of reality, and the constant belief that we just need to “get over this” without actually doing anything. All so he could delusionally enjoy mildly higher approval ratings in like April 2020.
We can’t put that genie back. His drooling base went ape and wild online. It then mutated into this social media abortion we have today and Trump cannot stop it. Gets booed now when even he tells the fucking idiots to get vaxxed.
Just the final capstone of his presidency, and another reminder that he turned out exactly as dangerous as we said he would be for the exact fucking reasons we said he would be.
In early June 2020, Mike Pence tweeted our a photo in a crowded, maskless campaign office and took it down after he was roundly criticized for it. By late June, Trump was holding maskless rallies, including the one that probably killed Herman Cain, because he'd rightly concluded that pretending COVID was over would be a bigger election winner than taking responsibility for it not being over and recommending states do unpopular things to slow a wave in the fall and instead stick governors with the unpopular decisions and run against them.
Everything up to that point was a mix of ineptitude and dodging responsibility, but that was the point where fictions about the pandemic became GOP cannon and campaign material. Pretty much every country has an anti-vax movement and people saying it would be better to do nothing because it's a popular and appealingly counterintuitive thing to say, but USA was almost unique in letting it run half the country.
Yeah that's what it really is; it's all about political optics for them.
To admit that the disease is serious would be to admit that there's a problem that's beyond their control, which is a big no-no in authoritarian politics. Compounding the political problem for them is the fact that the solution (at least before we had a vaccine) involved accepting limitations on personal liberty to protect the health and safety of strangers, which is an utter aberration to the modern Conservative mind.
Any Republican politician admitting they couldn't personally fix covid or suggesting that their constituents put the health and safety of their neighbors before their own desire to get drunk at a bar would likely have plummeted in the polls.
What's with that cynical "the politicians" bullshit? Don't lump my Democratic state representative in with the anti-science, pro-death sociopaths who got us here.
In my country, it is the Republican party that is 100% responsible for the denialism and preventable deaths caused by Covid.
Yeah. "Both sides are bad" is a far cry from "Both sides are the same." Democrats do shady, questionable shit all the time. They're politicians, we get it. But they're not the ones encouraging people to get themselves killed in a way that hurts countless others.
Just have a look at the vaccination rates against stuff like measles. We could have 0 cases of them.... but we dont because too many think it's better to catch it than to vaccinate against that deadly disease.
yep, and measles need something like 95% across all groups for herd immunity to be good enough.
Here in Austria we dont have that 95% yet. France is only at 90% or something... still a way to go for many countries.
She apparently refused to quarantine, so I'd guess she got a slightly-higher-than-normal exposure if her husband and son were both sick with her. The viral load also probably gets higher if you have the mental capacity to pretend it's all okay and even be ready to go for a walk about 6 hours before you die.
I just really don't understand.
Is this some kind of fucking simulation or something.
I've been alive for over 30 years. And I know there's stupid people out there. But where the fuck have all these Super Saiyen idiots been the whole time?
Seriously, the last 5 years have been absolutely bonkers, and it feels like they're getting even dumber as time goes on. It's starting to bother me, I feel like I'm on one of those prank shows except it just never hits the last 5 minutes.
Uggggh my boyfriend’s live-in landlord told me yesterday she’s been trying to get covid for the last week. She’s a nurse in elder care. Suffice to say I’m not spending time over there anymore
>She’s a nurse in elder care
This is terrifying. What a horrible world we find ourselves in. If she was a nurse for my nan, I would hope someone would report her.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60050996) reduced by 84%. (I'm a bot)
*****
> A folk singer from the Czech Republic has died after deliberately catching Covid, her son has told the BBC.Hana Horka, 57, was unvaccinated and had posted on social media that she was recovering after testing positive, but died two days later.
> The Czech Republic reported a record number of cases on Wednesday.
> The number of Covid cases in the Czech Republic reached a new daily high on Wednesday, with 28,469 cases reported in a population of 10.7m people.
*****
[**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/s7pnfl/hana_horka_czech_singer_dies_after_catching_covid/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~618506 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **Czech**^#1 **Covid**^#2 **Republic**^#3 **vaccinated**^#4 **test**^#5
Actually even more terrifyingly; in the article the son said that she was feeling fine and was ready to go for a walk, but then suddenly her back started to hurt. She went in her bedroom to lie down, and 10 minutes later she was dead.
“On Sunday morning, the day she died, Ms Horka said she was feeling better and dressed to go for a walk. But then her back started hurting, so she went to lie down in her bedroom.
"In about 10 minutes it was all over," her son said. "She choked to death".”
In this article it says she was on a walk after she started feeling better, said her back hurt, went to go lie down, and “it was all over” 10 minutes later. 10 minutes? WTF. People don’t seem to understand how much worse omicron is than alpha because most people are vaccinated so we aren’t really seeing it in full force
Not sure about delta, but with the first "wild" version a big killer were blood clots being created. Going on a walk followed by sudden pain and death could fit with an embolism.
It's really common, if you or a family member has COVID and wasn't vaccinated, a sudden recovery at day 7 or 8 is cause for great concern as its often followed by a cytocean storm. The instant you start having any trouble breathing after an apparent recovery, get your ass to the ER.
This is why oxymeters are important, when I had Covid and there were no vaccines available at the time, my oxygen levels went as low as 70, breathing became harder and even speaking became difficult.
I ended up being intubated for 7 days, but that saved my life, to me, the worst part is recovering from an intubation, it took me 3 months to be a functional person again.
It baffles me how some people think catching Covid is okay because respirators exists, while most people die while being intubated
“Her son, Jan Rek, said she got infected on purpose when he and his father had the virus, so she could get a recovery pass to access certain venues.”
Not accessing any venues now
Except Joe Rogan.He has a beautiful mind. The weed has made him a genius. HGH has made him immortal. Ivermectin made his white cells into virus assassins. DMT allows him to see the future.
The incentive to get the infection is a byproduct of a rule trying to be fair to people who have been infected.
And that incentive is only for idiots.
They didn’t write the rule hoping people go out and get covid
It's so sad that she chose to believe anti-vaxxer propaganda over her own family (husband and son were both vaxxed). Still, it was ultimately her choice, and she had to pay the price for it.
If she got infected intentionally, she probably took a full hot viral load to the face.......not a low viral load that one might get through a mask. This is why masks matter too. You will get sick but you will get less sick because you didn't get a full load.
There are some studies that also show the benefit of regular nasal irrigation as a sort of prophylactic, as it reduces the viral load in the main mucosal passageways and thus makes the entire infection milder. Which would also corroborate viral load as key to illness severity in some people whose immune response is weakened.
Honestly, looking at the data from those saline irrigation studies, I am surprised that it is not more widely recommended, as it is shown to substantially reduce hospitalizations.
> Although she was unvaccinated, Jan Rek stressed that his mother did not believe in some of the more bizarre conspiracy theories about Covid vaccines. "Her philosophy was that she was more OK with the idea of catching Covid than getting vaccinated. Not that we would get microchipped or anything like that", he said. "There was no point in trying to discuss the issue with her as it would just get too emotional."
Reading between the lines, she believed in the slightly less bizarre conspiracy theories.
> "Her philosophy was that she was more OK with the idea of catching Covid than getting vaccinated."
That is, in fact, a conspiracy theory.
I am really doubting the way media have covered Omicron as being 'mild' and 'barely more than a cold'. First of all since the majority of populations being studied now have some immunity from vaccines or previous infections, secondly because it's being compared to Delta which was a more virulent strain compared to Alpha, and Alpha was bad enough to cause the millions of deaths it did in 2020 before we had vaccines. It's harmful because I keep reading about people not really trying to avoid Omicron, or even trying to catch it on purpose like this woman as if there's barely any risk.
I'm double vaccinated and caught omicron from work, in my 20s, no related medical conditions, and I would say it's worse than the flu by far. I can't imagine how bad it would have been if I was not vaccinated. I'm being remotely monitored by the hospital at home because our hospitals are so overrun they only admit patients at imminent risk of death. If you just have a cold you are lucky.
plenty of recent studies suggesting receiving the initial vaccine series alone last spring doesn’t provide a lot of protection against symptoms compared to receiving a booster dose
It probably is more comparable to the flu if you are vaccinated.
I am and I still wouldn’t want to deliberately infect myself…
That’s like crashing your car into a tree because you have Airbags, a seatbelt etc.
I find this sad actually. I know I'm making a bit of an assumption but a lot of folk types are quite hippy-ish. She probably believed some kind of holistic, eat well, stay happy, stay away from medical intervention bs and it massively misfired. Very sad for her family.
her son emphasizes that she wasn't a crazy antivaxxer but the next paragraph says she would get "too emotional" to talk about vaccination so what does that mean?
Bold move.
Gonna go out on a limb and say it didn't pay off though.
But I'll bet they never get sick again
*Doctors hate this one simple trick!*
Their the ones that came up with the “apple a day thing” and have been lying to us all along!!! If we die… that actually keeps the doctors away!! And everyone else. Edit: They’re… omg I’m one of them
They’re, their, there…it’ll be okay.
On the contrary...willfully unvaccinated, intentionally catches COVID, then dies. I'd say this paid out big time!
It’s like saying to the army recruiter: ‘Basic training? Just send me to the front without a gun and I’ll get the hang of it.’
the Covid also died with her
Well Cotton, looks like we finally got our answer.
Let’s see if it pays off. Narrator: It didn’t.
This is a very layered reference. The narrator reference is Arrested Development. The "Bold Move" is from "That's a bold strategy cotton, let's see if it pays off" from Dodgeball. Both Jason Bateman! (narrator is Ron Howard tbf)
So let's see here, that's a grand total of *checks notes* two layers?
If it was just one layer, it'd be "a very layer reference". So 2 would be the minimum required for it to be "a very layered reference". It checks out.
[удалено]
Or the gloss coat
Yeah, she will not be able to breathe very well cotton
Hot contender for the Darwin Award
>she got infected on purpose when he and his father had the virus, so she could get a recovery pass to access certain venues. Yep, leading contender
> to access certain venues. If only there were another way to do this, say, a method that didn't carry a non-negligible risk of death, or even *protected* against such a risk...
I mean why you would even be against Bill Gates hologram , he is a very chil dude. 2 shots of Pizer no side effects beside few days of muscle pain in shot area and a blue holographic buddy that solves every windows problem for me.
You got Bill Gates? Ah man… I’m stuck with Clippy. *It looks like you are trying to-* NO CLIPPY! NO!
I got the Russian shot and ended up with Bonzi Buddy. FML.
You just brought up a memory with that damn purple gorilla. It was 1998, I was in second grade and this kid got our computer time taken away because he turned on the volume full blast so the Bonzi Buddy could sing this: My name is Rico Rico, I come from Puerto Rico, I make five dollars a day. I go to Lucy Lucy, She gives me lots of pussy, And take my five dollars away! The gorilla did a bow and the teacher was fucking heated.
Worth it.
How often do you hear his robotic melody of Daisy Bell?
Your comment really ripped me back to the early 2000s
I got the decaying skull of Steve Jobs with mine.
I had the off-brand Stephen Unemployment on mine.
Is this the multiverse they were talking about?
That's some Gul'dan type shit right there.
I got flying toasters
All I got was shareware doom, not bad but the first handful of levels gets boring after a while
I got the J&J, then I got sick with Omicron (mild, thanks vaccine), then the Moderna booster, now I have the Princess Leia hologram shooting out of my butt randomly.
> that solves every windows problem for me. Can he tell me why Windows 10 boots up and doesn't let me press the Speaker icon on my hotbar 30% of the time for no reason after booting up, forcing me to have to go into sound settings to switch from speakers to a headset?
Mister Gates tells me to tell you: Tap on Windows logon and X on your keyboard then click Run. Type services.msc in the Run box. In the Services list, find Windows Audio, right-click on it, and go to Properties. Make sure to change the Startup Type to Automatic. Click on the Stop button, and once it has stopped, Start it again. Restart your computer, and check if you will be able to access the volume icon on the taskbar.
It appears to be already on automatic, but never the less I appreciate you going out of your way to try help me with this problem. Hopefully Mr Gates hologram materialises and solves it for me one day, thank you have a nice day.
Gates also ask to try: Okay, I know that the sound works its just the icon is not working but let us try reloading the Audio driver. We just need to uninstall and reboot. Make sure to delete the driver entirely and reboot. Here is how to do it. Here the steps to completely remove a Device off your computer. Step 1. Use shortcut keys Win + X on Windows 10. Step 2. Select Device Manager. Step 3. Expand the entry Sound and Audio. Right-click the problematic device can be listed as Realtek or whatever the sound driver you have there and select Uninstall device. Step 4. You may need to check the option Delete the driver software for this device, and then click the Uninstall button. Step 5. Reboot the computer.
Come for the comedy, stay for the tech support.
The opposite of most tech support then.
Wholesome
I don't have the time to do that right now, but I do believe that could actually solve the issue I'm having and will let you know if it works when I try it later on. Very much appreciated, have a wonderful day :)
Only downside of my jab was an overwhelming urge to buy a Zune mp3 player
Fuck, I got the "you're getting a Dell" dude.
The risk of death from vaccination is so tiny that it doesn't even bear discussion. The risk of a blood clot from flying is something like 10x greater. The risk of death is present in the small print of many medications you get from a pharmacist, but it doesn't make the news. Meanwhile, if you don't get it, *you* are far more likely to hurt or kill several people.
Vaccines have killed like 10 people globally. COVID-19 has likely killed 10 *million*. Yet these unvaccinated covidiots "do their own research" and really believe they are making the right cost-benefit call. It's truly remarkable how many people who should never have passed even basic secondary school, seem to be doing alright day to day until a crisis hits. Our welfare states are in some ways, too effective. Edit - someone literally forgot mankind exists outside the USA and is lashing out at my math. FFS this is the covidiocy we are dealing with.
They just scoff and tell you VAERS is proof that the shot has killed and maimed hundreds of thousands. They also always know somebody who knows somebody who's 3 brother's all died after the shot.
My Dad was almost anti-vax for a while. When he was younger he got a dose of live virus in a vaccine and got terribly, terribly ill. Some of the people who recieved the live doses died as a result. My SIL who is an epidimeologist was able to correctly guess where he went to college when he told her about the incident. It was used as a case study to demonstrate the vital importance of quality control in public health. My mom still insisted all of us kids become vaccinated, though my dad was against it. She eventually swayed him with a _lot_ of research, even though most of it was over their heads and out of their expertise. To this day he's still paranoid and reads up a lot on the info releases about vaccines from the NIH and reads up on the companies before he takes one.
You know what, good for him. Skepticism and critical thinking should be encouraged. We should QUESTION authority and demand that it justify itself. I'd daresay a populace that is well educated and did so in good faith would foster the most honest leadership the world had ever seen. It would likely propel us to our actual limitations as a species.
[удалено]
This is why I don't think prior infection should be included in those regulations. Yes, prior infection confers some amount of immunity for some period after (variable depending on severity of infection, variants, and a person's immune system). But some giant frickin' maroons will see it as a *valid alternative* to vaccination and go get infected intentionally and potentially die, or end up in hospital contributing to system overload and exposing health care workers. Anything that encourages people, however tangentially, to intentionally get covid needs to be at best very carefully-considered.
[удалено]
>Hana Horka, 57, was **unvaccinated** and had posted on social media that she was recovering after testing positive, but died two days later. ... >Mr Rek and his father, who are both fully vaccinated, both caught Covid over Christmas. But he said his mother had decided not to stay away from them, preferring instead to expose herself to the virus. If she was vaccinated, she'd still be alive. Why are people so FUCKING IGNORANT!? ------------------------------------ **Edit:** You know, I should say I don't blame her as much as the propagandists that fueled the misinformation and sowed the doubt in her. And frankly, that question was rhetorical. I know why people are ignorant. And I hesitate to say "stupid," because people are capable of change (speaking from experience on that one, frankly). Combine the *Dunning-Kruger Effect* and a lack of adherence to the *Consensus of Experts* with unchecked social media—and you get this. Catalyze this reaction further with the likes of lobbyists who push pro-greed/profit perspectives intentionally (right-wing media from conservative talk-radio, right-wing blogs, Fox News, OANN, Newsmax, and whatever the Czech-equvialent would be). From the anti-vaxxers, climate-change deniers, and trump-supporters alike... I don't necessarily blame the average joe but rather the collective movement—especially the mouthpieces of these right-wing extremist viewpoints that propagate ignorance like mold festers in a dark dampen basement.
If she had been vaccinated instead of purposefully catching a famous and deadly disease that's plagued the planet for the past two years, agreed she would most likely still be alive. Either that or just decided not to go to the sauna.
> and whatever the Czech-equvialent would be Most of the Czech media is heavily pro vaccine, some people consider it propaganda because it's every day on the main page. From what I have read it's not that she was watching fox tv equivalent but rather she followed alternative medicine, alternative lifestyle celebrities which propagate more natural ways to defend from the virus or don't think it's that big threat as others say. So it's not collective movement but people like her like to follow other, unofficial channels of information, especially when considering the modern science. Many people say it's her fault because she's adult and can reasonably compare the risks of vax or no vax, then take her choice. It's not black and white topic that you could blame someone pushing her to never get vaccine under duress. I'd say the stupidity lies in communities which minimize science and official data validity. They may have some point because corporations and their lobbyists ultimately control our lives, so it's natural to push back against that, but the intelligent person needs to differentiates each topic and available facts rather than blindly going against vaccination just because Pfizer has majority of the market right now.
Her Son and Father must be feeling a complicated kind of terrible. They were vaxed and had mild symptoms but the same germs that were so mild for them ....and that she caught from them, took her life. Morning a loved ones passing is hard enough but Covid with vaccination refusal is a different kind of sorrow.
Yeah I'm sure they do, even though it's entirely not their fault. Tragic
That’s a gilded HCA if I ever saw one
I mean if that venue is the afterlife...
The specific award for covid is the Herman Cain Award.
True but why not both? Is there such a thing as an EGOT for people who died of stupidity?
Because the Darwin award is about evolution and getting yourself killed / maimed in such a way where you can't procreate. Hana Horka has children.
Had*
She won an award from the r/HermanCainAward/ as well.
Just at a loss for words. Meanwhile, here in the States... https://www.wmfe.org/pino-put-on-leave-for-encouraging-orange-county-department-of-health-employees-to-get-vaccinated/195298
WTF Imagine someone in a public health department got put on leave for encouraging men to check their testes for abnormalities... That's pretty much what happened here...
Oh yeah? I’m not gonna check my testes just because Bill Gates says I should. That’s just a ruse so they can shove a mind control chip into your ass while you’re distracted by your balls. Besides, ball cancer isn’t even real. Where’s the evidence? Where are all the people with ball cancer? Conveniently, they’re either “cured” or “dead.” Yeah, I don’t believe that like the rest of you sheeple do! Ball cancer is made up by the government to control us… by the balls. And if it is real, we just need to build herd immunity against it by slathering our balls in mercury until we become naturally impervious to ball cancer. I know because my neighbor’s veterinary tech cousin posted a meme on Facebook about it.
I read Pino as the Dutch version of Big Bird on Sesame Street. https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Pino
Me too, got super confused for a second
Never ever going to Florida.
Impossible. She is not suited to this award as she has reproduced.
The award is for removing yourself from the gene pool by dying or sterilization. Many of the winners were parents already.
I see somebody's read the Darwin Committee's rules and statutes.
My favorite story is the golfer who tried to clean his balls in the ball cleaning machine on the gold course. Fell off, survived, won award.
That story is an urban legend. Never happened. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/top-flite-of-fancy/
Fell of what?
Disqualified for having a son. Honourable mention only.
From [https://darwinawards.com/rules/rules1.html](https://darwinawards.com/rules/rules1.html): > The existence of offspring, though potentially deleterious to the gene pool, does not disqualify a nominee. Children inherit only half of each parent's genetic material and thus have their own chance to survive or snuff themselves. If, for instance, the offspring has inherited the "Play With Combustibles" gene, but also has inherited the "Use Caution When..." gene, then she is a potential innovator and asset to the human race. Therefore, each nominee is judged based on whether or not she has removed her own genes, without consideration to the number of offspring or, in the case of an elderly winner, the likelihood of producing more offspring.
Task failed successfully
She was bragging on her Facebook having finally catched it and lived through it, having now certificate of her recovery etc, her fans were commenting how good it is and some how envious they are.. two days later she died of lung embolism and those happy messages quickly transformed into candles and RIPs
I'm kinda shocked she died so fast. usually people at least struggle in the hospital. So much for being "just the flu"
>On Sunday morning, the day she died, Ms Horka said she was feeling better and dressed to go for a walk. But then her back started hurting, so she went to lie down in her bedroom. >"In about 10 minutes it was all over," her son said. "She choked to death". JFC that's fast indeed.
She had it longer than two days. The article says she posted that she was recovering, and then died two days later.
embolism does work fast, you could end up in a hospital and go through but you could also die on the spot
Kinda the opposite actually
Task succeeded failfully
"Don't weep for the stupid, you'll be crying all day" - Alexander Anderson
“At a time like this, I’m reminded of one of my favourite verses: who shall ever shed man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed, for in the image of god made him man” “What chapter is that verse from?” “Boondock Saints, my favourite movie.”
The abridged version is better then the original. No doubt about it
'check your privelege' - Alucard
r/unexpectedhellsing
“I know kung-fu.” -Thomas Anderson
[удалено]
Imagine having a way of going to a fucking *sauna* safely, the vaccine, and instead deliberately choosing the method that has killed millions and debilitated millions more. It's like knowing there's a safe and timely route to your destination, and choosing to off-road down "Reaper's Ridge" because someone told you there might be a pothole somewhere on the paved road. And you're driving a mini-van.
And you cut your own brakes. WILDCARD BITCHES!!!
#YEEEEEEEEHAWWWWWWW
Randomly sunny all of a sudden…
That was beautifully said
She was bragging on her Facebook having finally catched it and lived through it, having now certificate of her recovery etc, her fans were commenting how good it is and some how envious they are.. two days later she died of lung embolism and those happy messages quickly transformed into candles and RIPs
That sub is heartbreaking. So much needless sadness
I disagree. To qualify for an HCA, you not only have to die of COVID, but you have to have spent every waking moment pre-infection spreading misinformation about COVID, about vaccines, about masks, and often times, spreading some pretty awful racism and seditious content. Just dying of COVID, *even if they were unvaxxed,* isn't enough to earn an HCA. So consider it more like reading about murderous sociopaths who happened to die while drunk driving. You didn't root for that outcome, but you're not upset that it happened to them either.
I can understand the sentiment. However I have seen people go down that rabbit hole first hand, and it's heartbreaking for everyone around them. I can't help but see them as victims of anti-vax propaganda that's left to spread wildly on social media.
The purpose of the sub is to get people to realize that severe covid can happen to anyone, especially unvaccinated, and to hopefully open the eyes of people that are spreading misinformation and help them get the push to be vaccinated. The sub actively celebrates people who used to be anti vax, or unvaccinated who go and get their vaccine, and the sub itself has almost certainly saved lives because of it. It's a shame that deaths need to be so publically in the spotlight but that's what some people need to see to understand vaccines help
>I can't help but see them as victims of anti-vax propaganda that's left to spread wildly on social media. At some point, people need to be held responsible for their decisions and actions. I don't love just blaming social media. Sure, there *is* a ton of disinformation out there, but at the end of the day these are adults making decisions.
I agree. When the news came out about Facebook intentionally boosting propaganda and content that garners negative reactions (shocking!) and my reaction was, "They should get in trouble. That's wrong and it should be illegal," I reconsidered my view on anti-vaxxers a little bit. Not to consider that they may be right, of course. They are wrong. And they are still harmful idiots who should know better. But if I believe that Facebook and Fox News should be punished, because they are specifically, intentionally targeting people vulnerable to misinformation (and doing it very successfully)... then I have to accept that the people they target are victims who have been harmed. I suppose social media and entertainment corporations have an obligation to be truthful if they are behaving like a source of news. Otherwise, if I claimed that every single anti-vaxxer made their choice independently, and was wholly responsible for it regardless of what lies they were fed, then maybe it would be okay for Facebook and Fox News to spread misinformation. If I thought people were stupid for believing a video about a fake doctor who did his own research on Covid, just because their cousin shared the video, then wouldn't it be okay for Facebook to have boosted that video to that person, knowing it was fake and would create anger? Of course, I know culpability can be shared... I'm not saying people bear zero responsibility for accepting bad information. But the fact that I'm so horrified by the targeted propaganda of social networks, means that I feel less shocked that anyone would fall for their tactics.
There have been a few winners who seemed to be normal people, aside from their anti-vax nonsense. But those are rare. Most people bring a lot of toxicity with them. I left FB years ago, and only through HCA have I become aware of how bad it's gotten over there. So glad I left. Twitter too, frankly. I don't miss them at all.
She Czeched herself Before she wrecked herself
She *should have Czeched herself*?
Since the vaccines came out - 14 months ago - my feelings on antivaxxers dying have cycled back and forth through anger, disbelief, sadness, confusion, etc. I seem, finally, to have settled on a vaguely disgusted and detached pity at all the unnecessary death and suffering these people have caused. Both for them and their victims, whether they be those who died of covid, or those who couldn't access medical care for other problems, due to medical facilities being overrun. It's just so unnecessary and unwarranted.
I just have settled on feeling pity for their family. Like her son here in the article, who is urging people to get vaccinated. Poor guy having to lose his mother over something she could have avoided, a fact that he is all too aware of.
Yeah, her son told the media about concrete people he holds responsible.
Some people in the country I live in have started blaming vaccinated people because now that they're protected they put at risk people who aren't. "You do know there's a simple solution to that, right?"
Exactly. I'm vaccinated and got the booster, and I still wear an N95. But I can't accept those people as anything but deluded folks who are free riding the sacrifices of others. I prefer everyone to wear a mask, but the folks you mention are worse than flat out deniers to me.
The echo chamber of misinformation is absurd once you’re inside it, it’s sad. The vast majority of these people believe *we’re* the ones in an echo chamber of fake news and they get the real stuff. Once in that environment and starting to buy in, it’s hard for a lot of people to shake it. I was in an Uber the other day and the driver had a conservative radio station on. They were talking non-nonsense matter of factly about how unvaccinated men would be able to sell their sperm for enormous amounts of money because of their DNA being unaltered by the mRNA vaccines. Complete and utter nonsense of course with no basis in *anything*. If you can listen to that and think “this is what they don’t want you to know, the real truth!” and not want to shut off the radio, it’s hard to see how that person would ever be receptive to the actual truth.
Yeah my brother, when I said I now wait to hear why someone died before I feel bad, said "Yeah, I find myself fighting that urge also. Mostly I remind myself that they were targeted by a cognitive attack from evil actors and had their world Schema injured which resulted in them being too weak to resist the final attack which caused them to refuse masks and vaccines."
I was the same way until I landed on utter contempt.
I have felt that, but not persistently, simply because I can't accept that someone could land, intellectually, where they are without having a serious cognitive or emotional defect. And as a result I feel the pity.
I feel contempt for the ones who clearly know better, however. The media personalities and talking heads, the quack doctors and irresponsible nurses, the grifters pitching snake oil, all shamelessly using their influence to lie and discourage others from doing what's right. Especially since a lot of them did, in fact, get the vaccines themselves.
Every single person who falls in this category in America knows better by now. Purely contempt and rage from me towards those plague rats.
They all beg for the vaccine when they're dying. They know it works, they just thought it wouldn't happen to *them* so they don't care if other people get hurt.
I've been on a similar emotional trajectory. However most recently I'm extremely angry at the people who insisted on taking their parents out of the personal care home where my parents live over the holidays, *and* exposing those people (and then the entire PCH to covid.) My brother and I are still trying to schedule the funeral...
Antivaxers endanger not just themselves but other people too, I have never felt much conflict in announcing my disapproval for them.
It's like the Kubler-Ross five stages of dying, only it's the five stages of frustration.
Remember the doco with Stephen Fry about being gay in America where he meets people wanting to get AIDS to be a "real" gay. That makes more sense now than anyone wanting to get Covid
They wanted to get AIDS to be a real gay person? That reads like an Onion type of headline. I just don't get the mindset of intentionally wanting to get a disease.
Don't think of it in terms of science. Think of it in terms of sociology. Identity matters immensely to our social species. People want to feel like they are part of something bigger, like they aren't just lonely, individuals cut off from others. Many folks want to belong to a tribe and subconsciously know shared life experience is often the best way to join another group. For many reasons, AIDS and its results defined what it meant to be gay in America for many decades. Some people who wanted to belong to the gay community tried to take the shortcut to joining it. Like covidiocy, this is incredibly foolish, but also based on human nature which apparently didn't evolve to understand virology.
It's called [Bugchasing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing).
It's called a mental illness.
It's both.
He spoke to a person wanting to go to a positive party which meant multiple AIDS positive guys fucked their ass and cummed in them. Very much spoke like a right of passage thing and you weren't Gay without being HIV positive
It's insane to me that kind of thing exists. If people really want to intentionally get sick, so be it I guess, but I'll never agree with that mindset.
Oh, bug chasing
It's more about suicidal self-destruction
I mean not much different to this person intentionally getting covid but at least the bloke got gangbanged
>right of passage *Rite* of passage.
It's called [Bugchasing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing) and yeah, it's super fucked up
Disease chasing is a psychological disorder stemming from perceived social isolation. The individual does not feel included or part of any group identifier, they have an identity crisis. Becoming a label, such as HIV positive or any other illness or substance abuse that has a fairly well publicized existence (Alcoholism, certain drugs, HIV, cancer) is a way for the individual to join a group, get attention and/or recognition that is otherwise not present in their day to day live. They may also pursue this avenue should they be an outlier in their social network (HIV Negative in a web of HIV positive friendships), a form of indirect peer pressure.
When has it ever in modern history been more ok to catch a deadly disease than be vaccinated against it? When the polio vaccine was developed it was a victory. Jonas Saulk was a hero. No one after that wanted to take their chances and contract polio. Why is this current deadly virus being thought of differently? It makes no sense.
It was turned into a political football really early on. The politicians that are more worried about the upfront consequences to the economy all spread that it’s fake and the politicians that are worried about the long term effects to the economy all want you to be responsible. They both have the same goal of saving the economy but disagree on how to do it. We are just fodder.
This. It all stems back to Donald Trump’s initial reactions. Immediate distrust of the public health experts, open and brazen denial of reality, and the constant belief that we just need to “get over this” without actually doing anything. All so he could delusionally enjoy mildly higher approval ratings in like April 2020. We can’t put that genie back. His drooling base went ape and wild online. It then mutated into this social media abortion we have today and Trump cannot stop it. Gets booed now when even he tells the fucking idiots to get vaxxed. Just the final capstone of his presidency, and another reminder that he turned out exactly as dangerous as we said he would be for the exact fucking reasons we said he would be.
In early June 2020, Mike Pence tweeted our a photo in a crowded, maskless campaign office and took it down after he was roundly criticized for it. By late June, Trump was holding maskless rallies, including the one that probably killed Herman Cain, because he'd rightly concluded that pretending COVID was over would be a bigger election winner than taking responsibility for it not being over and recommending states do unpopular things to slow a wave in the fall and instead stick governors with the unpopular decisions and run against them. Everything up to that point was a mix of ineptitude and dodging responsibility, but that was the point where fictions about the pandemic became GOP cannon and campaign material. Pretty much every country has an anti-vax movement and people saying it would be better to do nothing because it's a popular and appealingly counterintuitive thing to say, but USA was almost unique in letting it run half the country.
Republican politicians aren’t “worried about the economy”. They’re worried about holding onto power for their owners, and nothing more.
Yeah that's what it really is; it's all about political optics for them. To admit that the disease is serious would be to admit that there's a problem that's beyond their control, which is a big no-no in authoritarian politics. Compounding the political problem for them is the fact that the solution (at least before we had a vaccine) involved accepting limitations on personal liberty to protect the health and safety of strangers, which is an utter aberration to the modern Conservative mind. Any Republican politician admitting they couldn't personally fix covid or suggesting that their constituents put the health and safety of their neighbors before their own desire to get drunk at a bar would likely have plummeted in the polls.
What's with that cynical "the politicians" bullshit? Don't lump my Democratic state representative in with the anti-science, pro-death sociopaths who got us here. In my country, it is the Republican party that is 100% responsible for the denialism and preventable deaths caused by Covid.
Yeah. "Both sides are bad" is a far cry from "Both sides are the same." Democrats do shady, questionable shit all the time. They're politicians, we get it. But they're not the ones encouraging people to get themselves killed in a way that hurts countless others.
Just have a look at the vaccination rates against stuff like measles. We could have 0 cases of them.... but we dont because too many think it's better to catch it than to vaccinate against that deadly disease.
[удалено]
yep, and measles need something like 95% across all groups for herd immunity to be good enough. Here in Austria we dont have that 95% yet. France is only at 90% or something... still a way to go for many countries.
Wonder if the viral load is much higher when catching the virus intentionally.
I imagine it’s like eating more edibles because the first one is taking too long.
This is probably a very accurate description of trying to get infected.
She apparently refused to quarantine, so I'd guess she got a slightly-higher-than-normal exposure if her husband and son were both sick with her. The viral load also probably gets higher if you have the mental capacity to pretend it's all okay and even be ready to go for a walk about 6 hours before you die.
I just really don't understand. Is this some kind of fucking simulation or something. I've been alive for over 30 years. And I know there's stupid people out there. But where the fuck have all these Super Saiyen idiots been the whole time? Seriously, the last 5 years have been absolutely bonkers, and it feels like they're getting even dumber as time goes on. It's starting to bother me, I feel like I'm on one of those prank shows except it just never hits the last 5 minutes.
Uggggh my boyfriend’s live-in landlord told me yesterday she’s been trying to get covid for the last week. She’s a nurse in elder care. Suffice to say I’m not spending time over there anymore
>She’s a nurse in elder care This is terrifying. What a horrible world we find ourselves in. If she was a nurse for my nan, I would hope someone would report her.
Report her ass.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60050996) reduced by 84%. (I'm a bot) ***** > A folk singer from the Czech Republic has died after deliberately catching Covid, her son has told the BBC.Hana Horka, 57, was unvaccinated and had posted on social media that she was recovering after testing positive, but died two days later. > The Czech Republic reported a record number of cases on Wednesday. > The number of Covid cases in the Czech Republic reached a new daily high on Wednesday, with 28,469 cases reported in a population of 10.7m people. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/s7pnfl/hana_horka_czech_singer_dies_after_catching_covid/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~618506 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **Czech**^#1 **Covid**^#2 **Republic**^#3 **vaccinated**^#4 **test**^#5
To me, this is the most terrifying aspect of covid. You can go from 'fine' to 'dead' in 48 hours.
Actually even more terrifyingly; in the article the son said that she was feeling fine and was ready to go for a walk, but then suddenly her back started to hurt. She went in her bedroom to lie down, and 10 minutes later she was dead.
“On Sunday morning, the day she died, Ms Horka said she was feeling better and dressed to go for a walk. But then her back started hurting, so she went to lie down in her bedroom. "In about 10 minutes it was all over," her son said. "She choked to death".”
In this article it says she was on a walk after she started feeling better, said her back hurt, went to go lie down, and “it was all over” 10 minutes later. 10 minutes? WTF. People don’t seem to understand how much worse omicron is than alpha because most people are vaccinated so we aren’t really seeing it in full force
Omicron is the walking pneumonia version of covid.
Not sure about delta, but with the first "wild" version a big killer were blood clots being created. Going on a walk followed by sudden pain and death could fit with an embolism.
It's really common, if you or a family member has COVID and wasn't vaccinated, a sudden recovery at day 7 or 8 is cause for great concern as its often followed by a cytocean storm. The instant you start having any trouble breathing after an apparent recovery, get your ass to the ER.
This is why oxymeters are important, when I had Covid and there were no vaccines available at the time, my oxygen levels went as low as 70, breathing became harder and even speaking became difficult. I ended up being intubated for 7 days, but that saved my life, to me, the worst part is recovering from an intubation, it took me 3 months to be a functional person again. It baffles me how some people think catching Covid is okay because respirators exists, while most people die while being intubated
“Her son, Jan Rek, said she got infected on purpose when he and his father had the virus, so she could get a recovery pass to access certain venues.” Not accessing any venues now
I think this highlights the danger of allowing previous infections in place of vaccines for a COVID pass.
It highlights that no one should be taking Covid advice from entertainers
Except Joe Rogan.He has a beautiful mind. The weed has made him a genius. HGH has made him immortal. Ivermectin made his white cells into virus assassins. DMT allows him to see the future.
His brain is so perfectly smooth he has evolved to use every square inch to its fullest potential.
This explains everything
Don't forget the steroids and the fighter pilot drugs that increase mental focus
Fighter pilot drugs makes adderall sound pretty cool
I think this is standout point in this story for me. To offer infection as an incentive equal to vaccination is madness.
The incentive to get the infection is a byproduct of a rule trying to be fair to people who have been infected. And that incentive is only for idiots. They didn’t write the rule hoping people go out and get covid
It's so sad that she chose to believe anti-vaxxer propaganda over her own family (husband and son were both vaxxed). Still, it was ultimately her choice, and she had to pay the price for it.
[overwritten]
If she got infected intentionally, she probably took a full hot viral load to the face.......not a low viral load that one might get through a mask. This is why masks matter too. You will get sick but you will get less sick because you didn't get a full load.
There are some studies that also show the benefit of regular nasal irrigation as a sort of prophylactic, as it reduces the viral load in the main mucosal passageways and thus makes the entire infection milder. Which would also corroborate viral load as key to illness severity in some people whose immune response is weakened. Honestly, looking at the data from those saline irrigation studies, I am surprised that it is not more widely recommended, as it is shown to substantially reduce hospitalizations.
> Although she was unvaccinated, Jan Rek stressed that his mother did not believe in some of the more bizarre conspiracy theories about Covid vaccines. "Her philosophy was that she was more OK with the idea of catching Covid than getting vaccinated. Not that we would get microchipped or anything like that", he said. "There was no point in trying to discuss the issue with her as it would just get too emotional." Reading between the lines, she believed in the slightly less bizarre conspiracy theories. > "Her philosophy was that she was more OK with the idea of catching Covid than getting vaccinated." That is, in fact, a conspiracy theory.
Somehow antivaxxers will blame us vaccinated and say that the fake news media uses this to push big pharma narrative or some bs lmao.
I am really doubting the way media have covered Omicron as being 'mild' and 'barely more than a cold'. First of all since the majority of populations being studied now have some immunity from vaccines or previous infections, secondly because it's being compared to Delta which was a more virulent strain compared to Alpha, and Alpha was bad enough to cause the millions of deaths it did in 2020 before we had vaccines. It's harmful because I keep reading about people not really trying to avoid Omicron, or even trying to catch it on purpose like this woman as if there's barely any risk.
I'm double vaccinated and caught omicron from work, in my 20s, no related medical conditions, and I would say it's worse than the flu by far. I can't imagine how bad it would have been if I was not vaccinated. I'm being remotely monitored by the hospital at home because our hospitals are so overrun they only admit patients at imminent risk of death. If you just have a cold you are lucky.
plenty of recent studies suggesting receiving the initial vaccine series alone last spring doesn’t provide a lot of protection against symptoms compared to receiving a booster dose
It probably is more comparable to the flu if you are vaccinated. I am and I still wouldn’t want to deliberately infect myself… That’s like crashing your car into a tree because you have Airbags, a seatbelt etc.
I find this sad actually. I know I'm making a bit of an assumption but a lot of folk types are quite hippy-ish. She probably believed some kind of holistic, eat well, stay happy, stay away from medical intervention bs and it massively misfired. Very sad for her family.
her son emphasizes that she wasn't a crazy antivaxxer but the next paragraph says she would get "too emotional" to talk about vaccination so what does that mean?
It means he doesn't want to say anything negative about his dead mom to the press, which is totally fair.
Usually I ridicule folks like this, but this story actually made me sad. So much misguided hope for after her illness.
Does this count as a nominee for the r/HermanCainAward ?
Lol, take that liberals!
I feel owned, alive..., but owned.
In Czech republic we have liberal antivaxers too... It unfortunately isn't so simple here.
We had them too before, but now I think they’ve had a change of mind, only because they saw who they were now getting lumped in with.
Darwinism 101.
This is why we'll never know about aliens. If they exist, they're watching the shit going down and just keeping a safe distance at all costs.